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Thursday, March 22, 2007

Bryan Habanas two tries vs the Waratahs

Bryan Habanas two tries vs the Waratahs


The debate regarding Bryan Habana rages on. Some say he's the quickest, best finisher in world rugby. Others say all he can do is run straight but doesn't have much skill. There's truth in both sides of the argument, but one thing for sure if that with a little space, and ball in hand he's absolutely lethal. There's not many who would ever out-run him. Brett Stapleton, Tonderai Chavanga, and Tom Varndell are supposedly quicker than him, but what have they achieved to date?

Morgan Turinui was picked at wing up against Habana in this match. Big mistake. He was made to look like a front rower. Then again, three of the other backline players were also shown up. Great tries and skill from Habana, even managing to score when the hefty Turinui tried to shoulder him out the way.

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Anonymous April 02, 2007 2:49 pm

Whos brett stapleton he must suck cause I've never heard of him. Tonderai Chavanga I have heard of and yeah he smoked off Sitiveni Sivivatu but only after he already chased some fulla Benjamin for 40m. Still Tom Varndell isn't that fast. Habana would smoke them all.

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Anonymous April 02, 2007 9:28 pm

id say habana has gt the best acceleration after robinson at his best, but is obviously faster thn robinson over 100m, varndell is qiker over 100m, but i rekon habana woud b jst ahed after 50, the other two, go knows!!

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Anonymous April 04, 2007 3:41 pm

Oh my you guys need to really look back at how easily Habana cruised past these Ozzie backs...he is by far the quickest man in world rugby! Robinson doesn't even come into the equation, I could prob beat him for pace!! Habana would win over 10m, 50m and 100m wothout breaking a sweat!!

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Anonymous April 12, 2007 7:47 am

Dunno about him being the fastest man in rugby anymore, look at all te young freak talent from the 7s. And remember that in his day Caucau was the best. But damn good tries all the same.

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Anonymous May 03, 2007 11:14 am

does any1 no hu stapleton is ive neva herd of him i rekon chavanga is fatser but hes got the skill of a 5 yr old

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Anonymous May 06, 2007 11:21 am

brett stapleton is with the western force squad. he also plays in the aussies 7's team sumtimes. hes alright but hes not all that skillfull. habanas definently beta

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stuff i like... May 16, 2007 8:51 pm

speed isn't the only thing a quality finisher needs, timing and anticipation is important too and habana got the skill to finish! so you'll never hear about these 'faster guys' you need the other things! got any Sitiveni Siviatu or Joe Rokocoko tries? they got some freakish speed and foot work too!

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Anonymous May 30, 2007 10:17 pm

As far as raw stats go Chavanga beat Habanna over the 40 meter sprints that they did at the springbok traning in 2005. But he's been injured for an eternity (Chavanga that is), plus he lacks the skill that Habanna shows from playing at centre up until Jake White placed him on the wing.

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Anonymous June 01, 2007 8:50 pm

that guy sayin robinson is out of the equation and he could beat him on pace is a complete retard, robinson has one of the best accelerations of all time at his best mind, but even still hes very quick maybe not as fast as habana but he is alot more creative then habana

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Rob June 08, 2007 1:11 pm

Brett Stapleton has only just turned 20 and played for Australia in under 19s..give him some time and he should be a star.

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Anonymous June 13, 2007 9:55 pm

This is the future of South African Rugby. Look out world.

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Anonymous June 23, 2007 4:32 pm

If you put Habana, Caucau, Robinson, Chavanga and Varndell in a 100m race, Habana would win, this Chavanga guy might be quick, i've never seen him run, but Habana would win, with Caucau easily second

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DMPRFC 14 July 01, 2007 10:53 am

right, based on 100m times the fastest player is daisuke ohata from japan with 10.2, then chavanga with 10.25, tom varndells quickest is 10.3 and habanas and caucaunibucas best is both 10.5, jason robinson gets 10.9 NOW, but at his prime surely must have been a lot quicker, also note that in socks, on grass tom varndell ran the 100m in 10.8..habana isnt faster then varndell or chavanaga, and bear in mind tom varndell is what, 19?

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Anonymous July 07, 2007 7:58 am

DMPRFC 14 where did u find all these 100m times from http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/athletics/6247610.stmhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/athletics/6245562.stm look at theseif one of the top if not the top british sprinter ran 10.15 in the 100m and won the european cup after years training and nutrition etc can u believe any of those times. if their is an official site with these times on then i'll believe them

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Anonymous July 13, 2007 1:42 pm

Yer suck on that!, that guy knows what he's talking bout, u just can't handle Habana would smoke Chavanga and Varndell like a Cigar

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dmprfc14 August 04, 2007 12:35 pm

i found those 100m times on various rugby forums, but i am willing to stand corrected on some, for example i never believed daisuke ohata ran it in 10.2 just i read in a few places he did, i think varndell is the fastest in the world still, apparently when he was younger he did a lot of athletics anyway, also, have you seen that video of habana racing a cheetah? that says habana runs the 100m in around 11 seconds...i believe he is faster then that, but not faster then varndell...but, we'll never know unless varndell ACTUALLY learns how to play and gets picked for england against SA lol

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Anonymous August 09, 2007 10:41 pm

there wws an article on tom varndell in the times a few months back. It said that he ran a best of 10.28 over 100m in socks!Nice.

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Anonymous August 10, 2007 11:26 am

I read Habana's best is 10.33. i reckon Varndell is quick, but there are no clips of him, so how r we meant to know! there are loads of clips of Habana and they show how quick he really is!

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Anonymous August 10, 2007 6:59 pm

that's because varndell isn't a fully fledged international yet. He's only appeared as a sub for England and he's still got a lot of work to do!

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Anonymous August 18, 2007 7:35 am

There are a lot of stupid comments here. Jason Robinson doesnt enter into the equation of sprinters (clearly a lot of Enlgish 14 year olds on this site). Over a distance of 100, 70 or even 40 metres he has/had about equal pace to Aaron Mauger. As some one said, it was his acceleration that was/is key. He could go from 0 to max in a couple of steps, but master of high end pace? Comparable with guys like Habana? Nah, not even close. I'd wager out of the English squad both Balshaw and a few others would have been faster over 40-100m.Habana, Chavanga, Heymans, Anesi and I think Varndell have all clocked in sub 10.3 seconds in recent times. Players who used to but can no longer because of age or increase in size are Howlett and Roks.Surprisingly Caucau doesnt enter this equation either, when he was leanest, fastest and most lethal in the Summer of 2002/03 he was clocked slower than Howlett, Roks and Gear at AKL Blues training camps. But he did have freakish high end speed and acceleration on the field. Strange indeed.

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anonymous September 22, 2007 8:16 am

You know does it really matter who is faster? How many tries in how many games? Bryan Habana has 26 tries in 29 games. But like someone pointed out there is more to rugby than just being able to run fast. There is defence as well, Habana is also one of the best defensive wings I have seen for a long time, Varndell may be faster but correct me if I am wrong, he is a defensive liability? And point of fact we don't know how fast Habana is over 100m because they do not do 100m sprints at training they do 40m sprints, as stated by himself when asked that exact question in an interview. Saying that all he has is out ans out pace and no side step etc, was probably true, until teams started marking him he did'nt need any other skills he could run past everyone and score. Now that people have started structuring their defences around him, he has started to learn new skills. Oh and one more point, note that Howlett and the like all had to bulk up which slowed them down so that they could be stronger on defense, Habana does not have this problem. His most endearing quality? His humility, and heart.

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Reggie September 26, 2007 12:27 am

In the Stormers vs Bulls in 2005 Tonderai Chavanga cut down Habana from a intercept, habana had at least 10 metres and Tonderai cut him down...

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Anonymous October 06, 2007 9:48 pm

did nobody on here see him get well and truely smoked by the usa winger in the world cup??? made him look like a prop forward. destroyed him in about 5 metres of space after habana showed him the outside! pure class... loved watching the arrogance of habana showing him the outside, then getting his just deserves!!! hahaha!

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Anonymous October 07, 2007 4:58 pm

Ngwenya is the fatest man in rugby...........(USA Winger)

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Anonymous October 11, 2007 9:34 am

Well maybe Asafa Powell should play rugby! Then we would ALL be in agreement who does the 100m the fastest - lol.

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Anonymous October 12, 2007 9:39 pm

Habana is probably the best all round winger in rugby today but there is no way he is the quickest. He was well and truly done by the USA winger who actually went around the outside of him but there is more to the game than pure pace. I am very much an amateur player (17) but I do the 100m in 11.5 and play on the wing. Although my top end does help, its the vicious acceleration that you really want; that's what allowed Jason Robinson to be so prolific. Also, people like Asafa Powell may be great in a straight line but side-stepping is another story...

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Anonymous October 14, 2007 9:04 pm

"Still Tom Varndell isn't that fast. Habana would smoke them all." Bryan Habana has only been clocked at maximum 11 seconds for the 100m, while Tom Varndell has run 10.6 in socks on grass while still at school. I think that's pretty decisive evidence that Varndell is quicker...

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Cogz Ipswich October 16, 2007 10:30 pm

I saw the joke Cheetah race on TV several times. A cheetah can cover 100 metres in 5 seconds, even assuming Bryan can do it in less than 11 he'd be cat food in about 40 metres - if a cheetah was that way inclined! A cheetah would have done 350 meters while Bryan was crossing the 100 metre finishing line. Looking forward to the game on Saturday!

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Anonymous October 16, 2007 11:29 pm

this forum stinks of codeplayersknowing nothing about sprinting but mouthing off about unbelieable times. Here is a fact - the fastest rugby player in the world would run around 11 seconds flat and at best maybe 10.85,10.90. On the track these guys are slow and would struggle to beat a good local sprinter. 100m times are done electronically off a photo camera not with a stopwatch on grass because it is so inaccurate. As for the guy running in socks what a joke!Asafa Powell would struggle to do that

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Anonymous October 18, 2007 4:13 pm

Habana is definitley the fastest rugby player,keep it up Bryan and bring the cup home to SA-2007

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Anonymous October 18, 2007 4:15 pm

Did you know that Brain haban is gay...I was at school with him and a few scenes with in our phys ed class...he might be a fast runner but an extremely slow finisher

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Anonymous October 18, 2007 4:17 pm

even os du randt can do it faster than brian habana

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Anonymous November 02, 2007 4:41 pm

clearly all the people talkin about the american winger dont kno what they are talkin about even ngwenya himself says that habana is faster and the best winger in the world he only beat him because he got him to stop... im sorry but if ur already running against some1 who is stationary your gonna win no matter how quick they are in that short a space... even a front rower could have made that play not that ngwenya isnt fast he is but even he admits habana is the fastest and best winger in the world so cant all of u?

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Anonymous November 03, 2007 8:16 pm

Habana is noted for his speed and has been timed as the fastest winger in South African rugby; he has run a 100m distance in 10.2 seconds.[

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Anonymous November 08, 2007 5:24 pm

how many habana glorifications r written by south africans?so much for impartiality.tonderai chavanga has smoked habana COUNTLESS times,if u dont believe me, ask habana urself!chavanga got no skill?so breakin a world record on ur debut must be an everyday occurrence then i suppose?wait 4 him to recover from injury then u will c how good haban really is.btw habana humble?HAHA!Yeah rite

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Anonymous November 14, 2007 11:33 pm

I reckon the guy that metioned the inaccuracy of timing with a stopwatch is spot on!These guys are not as quick as 10.3!!Some sprinters at the olympics struggle to make that!

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Anonymous November 29, 2007 6:31 pm

Habana might not be the absolute fastest rugby player but nobody can deny that he uses his pace better than anyone else.

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Anonymous December 13, 2007 5:41 am

tat is the only team where you could do that. Doug Howlett would easily getv the ball down before Habana, same with Leila Masaga,and Henri Veratau. Turuni is just stength- no speed.

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Anonymous December 20, 2007 2:12 pm

ohata,caucau,varndell and chavhanga may be insanly fast but i reckon they would be creamed by lomu in a one on one moment. lomu is fast,strong and is massive he's 6ft5 and 118kg lomu is by far the best wing ever.

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Tomas14 December 23, 2007 4:33 pm

All of you guys who've been saying some of these players run times around 10.2 to 10.5, is ridiculous. If that where the case do you really believe they'd be playing ruby rather than athletics? The fastes time is properly around 10.7, and no quicker. And whoever said Varndell runs 10.2 in socks on grass while still in school. Thats bull. That time would of made him the fastest school boy in the world, and if that where the case I doubt he would of turned to rugby.

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Nemes1s January 03, 2008 5:11 am

Hopefully this will shut you all up as to who is the fastest player in world rugby.http://youtube.com/watch?v=p93mxSU2bJcWhen this guy was 16, he represented Zimbabwe in the 200m at the olympics. He actually ran against Takudzwa Ngwenya and won. Although Habana is the best winger in world rugby, He is not the fastest.1. Tonderai Chavanga2. Takudzwa Ngwenya3. Bryan HabanaAll you English fans are arrogant and sour that you probably have the slowest rugby team on earth, narrowly losing to Portugal. So dont throw in Varndell and Robinson. PLEASE!!!The 2 Fastest teams in world rugby are South Africa and New Zealand. Deal with it.

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Anonymous February 03, 2008 7:42 pm

ngwenya is the fastest i would say definatly faster than habana this proves it!http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pWtBTvCDjX4

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Anonymous February 20, 2008 3:10 pm

Youre all idiots. watch the vid of Habana against australia. from halfway to the 22 (28 meters) he did 2.9that measures to about 10.3 over 100 with boots and a ball on grass ?Measure Ngwenya's so called lethal pace from the boks 22 to the try line. 2.5 seconds?thats not even a sub 11 100 meters.Habana would break 10 if he trained for speed only, lost weight and ran a tarlton track.End of discussion.

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Anonymous March 17, 2008 7:02 pm

Yer but then he would not be a rugby player he would be a sprinter

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Anonymous March 22, 2008 7:38 pm

omg shut up. right im irish so it can be fair assumed im impartial since the irish wont show any advantage to those english on the mainland, its well known theres quite a lot national tension, although its calmed down a bit.habana's has always had skills, he used to play outside centre and scrum half. habana is rock solid in defence and brilliant in attack, i dont remember which autumn international it was in 2007 but against england he dummied a pass to make a player go for the intercept, sidestepped 3 players and then hit the gas.although there are other faster players than him in professional rugby, varndell being one of them, they aren't good enough to be picked internationally on a regular basis, or have injury problems. and wingers have all got slower since 95 and professionalism anyway, u used to get some smoking quick wings when it was amateur, like at the 91 world cup

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BluebullPTA March 24, 2008 2:37 pm

Bryan Habana is the best winger in the world and one of the fastest , Chavanga seems to be playing good rugby in the super 14 ,just imagine this Springbok backline9 Fourie du Preez10 Frans Steyn11 Bryan Habana12 Jean de Villiers13 Jaque Fourie14 Tonderai Chavanga15 Percy Montgomeryjust imagine ,TWO gasmen in the backs

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Frederik11 March 29, 2008 9:01 pm

What the hell guys lol, okay lets review, bryan is a rugby player not a sprinter, that said his best time in the 100m on grass is 10.27 sec thats a fact! i dont believe varndell is much faster than him but still bryan is by far the best winger in world rugby, whether you like him or not thats a fact backed up by the fact that together with jonah lomu is the only player to score 8 tries in the irb world cup and named irb player of the year 2007!! Now the fastest rugby player in the world is actually tonderai chavanga he holds the 100m record for zimbabwe at under 10 sec for the i think it was 9.98 sec then second is ngwenya the usa winger. with all that said we are dealing with rugby not athletics here in my opinion this is the current top 10 wingers in the world1. Bryan habana SA2. Joe Rockococko NZ3. Tonderai Chavanga Sa4. Sitiveni sivivatu NZ5. Lote tiquiri AUS6. Drew Mitchell AUS7. JP Peitersen RSA8. Sireli Naqevuluki Fiji9. Doug Howlet NZ10. Jongi nokwe RSA (watch him play for the cheetahs if u dont believe me)

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Anonymous April 02, 2008 2:26 pm

Michael Pesaminoe he is faster than Habana he plays for the samoa 7's team

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Anonymous April 10, 2008 8:43 am

Just to enlighten you on who Brett Stapleton is;Former Western Force Squad member. Never got a shot in the main squad because of Wallabies in front of him and injuries.Currently in Japan, playing at Coca Cola West Red Sparks.He has posted an OFFICIAL TIME of 10.27 when he was 18. Now 20years old, I watched him play sevens on the weekend and he is extremely fast and is a star in the making.

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Clinomaniac May 04, 2008 9:23 pm

Clearly the undisputed fastest man in world Rugby is non other than English rugby league winger Dwayne Chambers??? Clocked at 9.87s over 100m!lol! Now this debate is over once and for all! Cheers Dwayne! lol

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Anonymous May 31, 2008 1:04 pm

o ye it is actually dwain chambers o and there was a welsh sprinter who used to run sub 10 i think but it was a while ago i think he competed in the olympics

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Anonymous June 01, 2008 1:10 pm

what about the USA winger who burned habana hes quicker aswell

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Anonymous June 01, 2008 1:11 pm

use are all forgetting about the usa winger who smoked habana easy

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Anonymous June 01, 2008 1:16 pm

well use said asafa powell would stuggle wearing socks n boots but he raced wearing the new nike boots and got 9.89 or sumink around dat in the 9s but habanas not the fastest anymore and never was to be honest

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jay June 01, 2008 1:17 pm

well use said asafa powell would stuggle wearing socks n boots but he raced wearing the new nike boots and got 9.89 or sumink around dat in the 9s but habanas not the fastest anymore and never was to be honest

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Dave L June 07, 2008 2:12 pm

People who say robinson is slow - thats just a load of crapAnd its not jsut acceleration - guratnteed robinson in his prime would have benen mid 10 - late 10 seconds (i.e. 10.7...)

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mitchell June 24, 2008 8:39 pm

what about shane williams he has by far the best acceleration in the world and skills (habana himself said shane was way better than him) and if u look at his try celebration againsed SA he was looking for habana

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Anonymous August 27, 2008 3:24 pm

if youve never seen brett stapleton how can you say anything against him hes the fastest australian rugby player and would almost most smoke most rugby players. chavangha would smoke everyone hes the fastest based on 100m times

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Anonymous August 27, 2008 3:25 pm

the rugby player from america smoked habana in the world cup

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Anonymous November 23, 2008 8:51 am

IVE SEEN THE OFFICIAL TIMES1) CHAVHANGA2) HABANA3) CAUCAUNIBUCATHAT ZIMBABWIAN GUY THAT PLAYS FOR USA IS 5TH! SO STOP SAYING HES THE FASTEST

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Adam May 14, 2009 5:21 pm

Over 100m Varndell is no question the quickest, he's a sprinter who has decided to pick up a rugby ball because he's never gonna make the money he does playing rugby. You can see from his technique; he knows how to run. Habana has poor technique, but is a very very good winger.
Also Ugo Monye for England. He was a sprinter turned to rugby. He has a personal best of 10.6 running in the english schools athletics final, oh yeah and he was 16!! yes 16! He says since then he's never been timed,i can't imagine what he could do now. but i don't think Habana could beat that 16 year olds time at his prime.
Also Ugo is bigger, stronger, more agressive, so if he stays clear of injury then he'll be the better winger.

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Back Line Boy! June 07, 2009 5:20 pm

Adam you are completely right,
i would have habana and monye on each wing because they are both increadibly fast and amazing in defence
but for pace i would have chavanga and varndell or caucau but hes not playing at the moment.
we should start up a club or something too have all the speedsters in a race.

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