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Saturday, May 24, 2008

Edwin Cocker hit from the London Sevens - NZ vs Argentina

Edwin Cocker hit from the London Sevens - NZ vs Arg

The London leg of the IRB Sevens World Series kicked off today at Twickenham with a game that could have so easily gone wrong for champions New Zealand.

Argentina, despite conceding an early try, pushed them all the way and were leading 7-5 until a last minute try from the All Blacks stole the victory and broke the hearts of the men in blue.

Despite being close, the game itself wasn't great, so we've picked out this big hit from New Zealand player Edwin Cocker.

It looks to be a vicious shoulder but the referee doesn't see it that way and allows it. He did wrap his one arm around as much as possible, while off balance, so maybe the intent wasn't there.

Opinions will be varied though, as the commentator for one seemed to think it was 'a shoulder into the face'. Feel free to leave your thoughts on it as a comment below.

Posted at 10:56 pm | 21 comments

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TheMightyHam May 24, 2008 10:44 pm

The commentator is lewis moody, he was actually very interesting and the tackle is a shoulder to the face when you look at it closely.

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Shaft May 24, 2008 11:21 pm

Nah themightyham there's no way he makes contact with his face. I'd say if he did the guy wouldn't have got up right away, and the ref would have seen it. Agreed? Or are you a Moody fan and therefore defending him? Kinda sounds like it...Anyway who cares what the commentator says - big hit and at first glance definitely looked like a shoulder that should have been penalised. Probably would have been in union - not sure what the Sevens stance is on this type of hit though.

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felix May 25, 2008 8:08 am

sevens is a variation on union not league so the same tackle rules aply. this one however i don't see a lot wrong with. he is slightly off balance and does well to get his arm up. it is a bit of a shoulder but that's the part of your body you are supposed to use! the rules say you have to make and effort to use your arm too which he does. he also makes contact under or on the arm of the argentine so it's DEFINITELY NOT HIGH. Moody probably has wet dreams about making tackles like this one and he's probably just being biased against NZ as they are favourites.

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Redron May 25, 2008 8:50 am

I thought the tackle was quite ok actually. He didn't make much of an attempt to wrap up though.

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Anonymous May 25, 2008 12:15 pm

On a side note; I think moody has a natural commentator voice, I can see him doing that when he retires.

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Anonymous May 25, 2008 12:21 pm

It didn't look like a high tacklebut he certainly didn't wrap

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rancid May 25, 2008 12:58 pm

LOL at Moody. There is not a chance in hell that he connected to the face.

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Jack May 25, 2008 1:04 pm

NZ always been dirty

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EL nino May 25, 2008 1:21 pm

FAIR, he hit him chest hight an tried to wrap the arm, good tackle , fair do's 2 th argentine for getting up so quickly

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Anonymous May 25, 2008 3:07 pm

looked like a shoulder to the sturnum or even shoulder. defo not the face, the guy would not have been bounced the way he was if it was the face. he musta hit something more solid.

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minstrel boy May 25, 2008 4:06 pm

brilliant tackle!

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Anonymous May 26, 2008 12:20 am

it was not a shoulder to the face the should hit is chest, his head rocked forward into the top of the shoulder after the original contact so that is fine...could of been more arms in the takle.

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Asterix May 26, 2008 6:08 am

If Butch James has done this exact same tackle, all you Kiwi and Aussie monkeys would be jumping up and down in a frenzy because he didn't use his arms.But since its a Kiwi... its Fair.

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martin May 26, 2008 12:36 pm

it was a fair tackle, no question. it was not a shoulder charge because his arm was raised. you should put some up from the finnal because there were some big hits and the ref made some questionable decsions.

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Dan May 26, 2008 3:03 pm

are you kidding?!it was as illegal as they come!!! you have to make an effort to wrap the arms around! It doesn't matter if it was high or not, it's still an illegal shoulder barge. Legal in league but this is union.

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rugbyfreak May 26, 2008 7:36 pm

ilegall,but no doubt huge!

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martin May 26, 2008 10:42 pm

no way was it illegal, some refs don't like it, but it is a dangerous sport. a shoulder charge is when your arm is by your side like when u drop your shoulder into a tackle. stopping shoulder charges and clotheslines means that is evens up the tackle situation between both players involved. the tackler in that situation against a bigger man would hav bounched off. the little guy always gets hit hardest, i know.

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rugbyfreak May 27, 2008 12:19 pm

I know what a shoulder charge is...a huge hit...

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Anonymous July 10, 2008 5:02 pm

I do that all the time and im in the u14 and ive only ever been cuationed 3 times 2 times for shoulder charrges and a spear tackle......but its part of my game bein a flanker....

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Anonymous November 15, 2008 6:52 pm

it's not high at all, just the impact of the hit throws his head forward!

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Anonymous February 19, 2009 10:30 am

Its pronounced the way its spelt.Played and drank with his twin brother John

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