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Sunday, May 25, 2008

Fabien Pelous sinbinned for silly kick on Alan Quinlan

Fabien Pelous sending off after that silly kick

With Munster sealing the victory over Toulouse in Cardiff on Saturday, there was a key moment that possibly changed the course of the game when the French giants endured 10 minutes without their captain, Fabien Pelous, after he was sent off following a foolish incident.

Pelous and Munster's Alan Quinlan squared up innocuously in the 50th minute of the game, which resulted in the Frenchman giving his opponent a kick up the backside as he turned to walk away.

Quinlan appealed to touch judge Nigel Whitehouse who duly recommended a yellow card after summoning referee Nigel Owens.

"I did lose my head a little bit, it is a shame I reacted like that," said the 34-year-old.

"The player [Quinlan] stamped on my foot and I reacted but the referee saw only the second kick.

"But at my age it's a silly to act like that."

Munster went on to win 16-13 and lift the Heineken Cup trophy.

Posted by Rugbydump at 8:33 pm | View Comments (56)

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Flooz May 25, 2008 8:24 pm

"and that is not a yellow card...that is not a yellow card..."

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TotalRugby May 25, 2008 8:35 pm

i would have given quinlan a yellow card, for his poor acting skills. this kind of behaviour belongs on a soccer pitch and not on a rugby pitch.

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English Neil May 25, 2008 8:36 pm

Not a yellow card at all, and also see how the player suddenly grabs the wrong leg, and promptly limps and falls to the ground while looking at the touch judge? and didn't he get man of the match?? Congrats to Munster, I was rooting for them, but when did the "fine art" of diving like a football player infect our fine sport??

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Anonymous May 25, 2008 9:15 pm

Yeah I hope it fucking hurt Quinlan, despite your 'acting'! Is the touch ref Irish or something? Thats ridiculous!

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Richard May 25, 2008 9:39 pm

I thought it was an automatic yellow card if you deliberately raise your boot to a player though I must say I am disappointed in Quinlan's reaction, this shouldn't be creeping into the sport, he still had an outstanding performance though.

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welshno.7 May 25, 2008 9:42 pm

definatley not a yellow quinlan was acting like a footballer with his acting not to be seen on a rugby field!

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Anonymous May 25, 2008 9:50 pm

agreed the acting is pathetic but if you kick someone you have to get a yellow, those are the rules simple as that.

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Eric May 25, 2008 10:09 pm

Oh c'mon that was the most childish kick i've ever seen on a rugby pitch! A warning should have done... And btw the acting was awfull..

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dave seymour May 25, 2008 10:18 pm

the yellow pelous got was for the right reasons, but id have given quinlan a yellow for acting like a soccer playing nonce. back before professionalism, both would have been let go, but its a professional game now, the field is your workplace, and youve gotta act like grown men and stick to the rules.p.s f*** the ELVs! its only coz the aussies cant play union anymore, so they want another rugby league, but with a four panel ball instead of eight.

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Benson May 25, 2008 10:28 pm

It's the same as Drogba slapping Vidic in the face - it didn't hurt but it's the act that got him sent off, not the 'injury'. Excuse the pun on act btw, because that was just plain embarrassing by Quinlan. PS: Dave Seymour, well done man, you're off topic and talking nonsense. I'm pretty sure the guys who make the rules, the IRB, are based in Dublin...

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Darragh May 25, 2008 10:49 pm

Player used the boot inappropriately, yellow card. No debate about it lads!

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Third Centre May 25, 2008 11:30 pm

yeah it was a definite yellow card but pathetic by quinlan. If that had been the other way round Pelous would've gone into Munster folklore as a villain like Neil Back but as it was a Quinlan they'll call him a cute hoor and say he was being clever. Such hypocrisy !

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Anonymous May 25, 2008 11:32 pm

Bishop Brennan's reaction when Father Ted kicked him up the arse was much more realistic - more acting lessons required, Mr Quinlan!

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Heinzy May 25, 2008 11:50 pm

I wish Brian Moore would've been commentator, the funny comments he may have came up with..."its just a gay slap, that's all."He probably would've made note of how the game they were playing was indeed RUGBY and not football too....but hey, whatever.

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minstrel boy May 26, 2008 12:43 am

ridiculous decision! and I`m a Munster fan

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Don May 26, 2008 12:58 am

"and that is not a yellow card...that is not a yellow card..."LOL...exactly.But I admire the referees...the ability to start in front of big bad rugby players and pass judgment on them...big balls.

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DAV May 26, 2008 1:36 am

It doesn't even matter...I'm pretty ashamed of Quinlan's reaction to the soft kick, and Pelous did not deserve a yellow card. However, Tolouse ended up scoring with a man down, whereas Munster only received 3 points as a result.

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Sander May 26, 2008 4:52 am

Well, I guess it's a yellow to the letter of the law, but it seems a bit harsh in this case.Pelous was right, though; he should've known better, with his experience.Quinlan's reaction is very disappointing. I would have expected that kind of 'drama' in the CL final last wednesday, not in the Heineken Cup.

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Obed May 26, 2008 5:27 am

. . I believe Sir Alex Ferguson will give him (quinlan) a call for next season . . . what a tosser . .

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Bill May 26, 2008 6:10 am

Absolutely a yellow card, I don't see how it possibly wouldn't be. That said, I'd have given at least a warning for the over-acting.

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Killian May 26, 2008 7:26 am

It is a yellow card. The acting from Quinlan is deplorable and I hope he really feels proud of himself for it, but one simply cannot kick another player like that.

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Patron May 26, 2008 8:31 am

Quinlan was a bit of a soccer player there, lolWhitehouse was clear that there would be no shit in the match,stupid by pelous, with all his experience it was stupid he saw the joke in it then but i dont think he is laughing this morning

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Patron May 26, 2008 8:35 am

ELVs are a waste, the game wasnt broken in the first place so why fix it, now we have to put up with that crap next year in the HC, the Super 14 this year was terrible, matches were ridiculously scrappy, sure it produced some decent tries but some of the best of all time have come from normal rules.Cant see many teams in Europe doing well under the EVLs, the likes of Toulouse might cope better then most

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Osprey Rich May 26, 2008 8:57 am

Whitehouse is such a cunt, just the most officious referee ever, yes the kick was illegal but a talking to for both players would have sufficed. Shame on Quinlan, he will have that against him for the rest of his life. Is rugby really going to go down the road of faking being hurt etc etc

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Shaft May 26, 2008 9:30 am

Sorry Patron but, after watching the Super 14 all season, then watching this final, I'm pretty happy to say the game isn't quite 'not broken' as you keep saying. There were times when I could've gone to put the kettle on cos there was a scrum outside the 22, you just know it's gonna be tossed back in, then harmlessly kicked out. Slow, boring. Some ELV rules could have improved it. Not all of them, just some. Don't be so narrow minded fella. "The Super 14 this year was terrible' - where do you get off saying that?? It was one of the closest tournaments in years, with some great rugby being played and competitive till the end. Don't believe everything you read/hear over there pal. I've had the opportunity of watching S14, Guinness prem, Top 14, and Heineken Cup this season. And while they all have their highs & lows, I still know which tournament I'd rather watch week in and week out, elv's or not. Anyway... off topic - apologies RD.Yellow card - fair. Poor commentary. Acting - poor & embarrassing. As bad as Marius Joubert or David Knox vids on here

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Fridge May 26, 2008 9:57 am

Definate Yellow.It doesn't matter if you just tap him, or give ihm a full roundhouse kick. Its still a kick, its still foul play and the intent was there.Stupid behaviour by both players

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Flanker6 May 26, 2008 10:00 am

Its a cup have to play the opposition,the weather and most importantly the ref. Alrite granted it was acting and all that, still though pelous was stupid enough to raise his boo in front of the linesman, with less then 30 mins left on the clock quinlan was smart and got rid of the french captain for 10 mins. Its not pretty but thats what you hav to do to win.

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Anonymous May 26, 2008 10:23 am

In my opinion pelous was quite shit in this game. Every time he got the ball he went backwards and he couldnt secure good lineout ball. PS. Quinlan is a cheat and some ELVs are good.

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Sander May 26, 2008 10:31 am

Calling Quinlan a cheat is just as sad as the man's theatrics.All flankers are cheats, that's what they do ;-)If you don't like it, ruck 'em out properly!

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nico May 26, 2008 10:43 am

sander mate , there is a difference between "cheating", slowing balls, etc, (flanker's job) and acting (footballers' job). Yes you can play the ref but not like that. That's simply disgraceful

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Patron May 26, 2008 10:46 am

Pelous contributed a lovely chip over the top within 10 metres of munsters line, classic player, no one saw it coming

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Sander May 26, 2008 11:14 am

@ Nico,I'm not saying it was OK for Quinlan to do that (au contraire!).The guy called Quinlan a cheat. That's a sad reaction. Just like Quinlan's theatrics were.I'm just saying all flankers are cheats, but only because they get away with it (which is good, and it was partly a joke)

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Anonymous May 26, 2008 12:08 pm

quinlan should be cited for that, that's utterly shameless. what a twat. after slagging off chelsea and man u for mincing during the week, he decides to join in

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Third Centre May 26, 2008 12:19 pm

It was cheating whatever you dress it up.And don't forget Pelous' reverse pass ! Quality !

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Bloody Google doodar May 26, 2008 12:39 pm

"Is the touch ref Irish or something? Thats ridiculous!"How did you guess? was it the unmistakable irish accent? _Bit daft to have given a yellow for that, we arent footballers, a kick in the arse is the least of a players troubles during the game.Pretty damn funny though!

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martin May 26, 2008 12:50 pm

they were both being stupid and bringing rugby down. poor by all

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samitarugby May 26, 2008 1:07 pm

how can that be a yellow card? and its true, acting like that belongs in football and not rugby.

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tangent May 26, 2008 1:37 pm

Perhaps off topic but does anyone find it very strange the referees now using players names? I think it's stupid and there will be players they don't know in certain games, it doesn't seem very impartial. Before it would have been gold, blue etc. and now the countries are named, and now this guy uses the players names as opposed to red 4 and blue 6?

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Anonymous May 26, 2008 2:33 pm

of course its a yellow its a intentional kick which = a red. . . .

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Anonymous May 26, 2008 2:34 pm

or as i should have said = a yellow lol!

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Anonymous May 26, 2008 2:39 pm

Munster players are all watchin the touch ref' like "did you see? he's a bad guy!give him a yellow card, give him a yellow card!" What an awful footballer spirit, it's a shame to see that on a rugby pitch...BTW, Pelous was absolutely stupid.

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jay May 26, 2008 3:30 pm

I do agree with the refs calling the players by their names, they should stick to numbers.As for Pelous's reaction yes it was stupid and yet the guy has played through the 80's and 90's so he should know that a lot of players always try that kind of stuff (France-England with Lewsey's tapping Traille's head after he scored at the 2nd min) or O'Connel clapping...I've actually been carded for doing that, so all I'm saying is that it should be the ref's reponsibility to also watch for provocations and not only reactions...

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themull May 26, 2008 3:54 pm

didnt know cristiano ronaldo was playing in the backrow for munster

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G Phillips May 26, 2008 4:26 pm

WTF?!?how the hell can the commentator say thats not a yellow card! what a fool! he intentionally kicked him!

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Anonymous May 26, 2008 4:26 pm

This is more than provocation. A scrum-half pushing his vis-a-vis is provocation, pushing people out of rucks is provocation, as was said earlier on Lewsey tapping Traille's head after his try is provocation, but this is bullshit! Quinlan shoves him, then steps on his foot, and then gets the penalty. This, my rugby friends, is cheating in broad daylight.

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DDC1990 May 26, 2008 4:45 pm

Guy's...since when has kicking someone Not been a yellow card??? Its a yellow card! Debate closed! Sky Sports proving again how anti-munster they are. I was glad to be at the match and not listening to that tripe! "Not a yellow card!" Learn the F**kin rules!Then for the other matter of Quinlan's acting. It was wrong! Straight out. Its unfortunate that the "Hard Man" of Munster rugby reacted like that. Then again we were'nt kicked. It may have hurt. I certainly wouldnt like a kick up the arse from Pelous. Finally UP MUNSTER! And thank you "Knoxy". Your disgracefull comments were just the extra firepower we needed to go that extra yard and win!

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Anonymous May 26, 2008 6:57 pm

It's very easy to sit at a computer and say that Pelous was stupid for losing the head and that Quinlan's playacting was pathetic. People forget the fact that they spent the other 79 minutes of the game breaking their balls for the cause. None of us can comprehend the pressure these men are under. I think they can be forgiven a rush of blood to the head.

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Anonymous May 26, 2008 8:59 pm

acting it was,but quinnys no soccer player,did you see his hit on dusatoir,id like to see ronaldo do that.

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Ryan May 27, 2008 2:01 am

Not a yellow card. A comical bit between two players, but nothing more. The two refs were absolutely hilarious though. "i have a recommendation if you want it?" "you'd like to give a recommendation" "yes i would like to give a recommendation?

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angry May 27, 2008 9:36 am

despite the correct fuckin law u pompous fuckwits, its a fuckin love tap. yeah rules are rules but at least referee in the spirit of the game fo fucks sake. surely anyone would know that it is nowhere near worth a yellow card or even a penalty.and that cunt of a touchie, thinks that in a GRAND FINAL OF EUROPE in a close game, thinks its appropriate to send someone off for this is off his fuckin old ugly head. what a shame for rugby

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Third Centre May 27, 2008 12:18 pm

ddc1990 Sky are very much biased towards Munster, they're awful pundits but they only had eyes for Munster in that game. Its crazy how partisan you lads get even when your side were clearly in the wrong !It didn't hurt Quinlan acted and poorly at that take off your red-tinted glasses.

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Cheyanqu May 27, 2008 5:03 pm

If this type of stuff happens then both must be punished.Perhaps a citing on Quinlan for "bringing the game into disrepute"?What I would have really preferred would have been some "Old Time Rugby" repsonse in the post game from Toulouse, like:"Yeah, Fabien messed up bad. However, we'll see Quinlan again, somewhere, somehow. Perhaps then he'll have a real reason to grab himself."Not to encourage thuggery by any means, but perhaps the gamesmanship of intimidation. The threat of a boot to his head whenever he ends up on the wrong side of the pile, etc.Same thing Joubert and Knox deserved.

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Anonymous May 28, 2008 7:41 pm

yeah, the irb are based in dublin but it's been the aussies who've been pushing for the elvs

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alex May 28, 2008 11:52 pm

Its defo a yellow, because of the rules of the game.Yeah Qunilan's reaction is OTT but my friends, I ask you, have you not felt the pain of been kicked up the hole?

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Anonymous September 19, 2008 4:44 pm

Lol i watched this ages ago but cant help laugh again! its such childish stuff and to be given a yellow is crazy lol!i mean yeh it could have hurt quinlan but a kick in the ass was prob what he needed!

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Anonymous August 27, 2009 8:13 pm

Fabian wished he had kicked him had, dont you think?

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