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Sunday, November 02, 2008

New Zealand beat Australia in Hong Kong

New Zealand beat Australia in Hong Kong

The All Blacks and Wallabies met in Hong Kong on Saturday for a historic first ever Bledisloe Cup match held outside of Australasia. The All Blacks came from behind to win the game 19-14 and retain the Bledisloe Cup, making it 3-1 to New Zealand for this years game's between the two arch rivals.

The match in Hong Kong was by all means a success, with the fantastic stadium packed with locals and travellers alike, the game is said to have generated over 5.5m.

There is now talk of further meetings between the two sides taking place abroad, with both the United States and Japan being prime candidates for hosting the fixtures.

Australia rugby boss John O'Neill said: "We have got a formal proposal from Denver to host the Cup next year.

"We are also talking to the Japanese about the possibility of holding the game in 2010 in Tokyo."

New Zealand are now in good stead after Saturday's victory ahead of their Grand Slam tour of the UK. They will play Scotland, Ireland, Munster, Wales and England.

"It sets us up well for this tour. Hopefully we can keep progressing as the tour goes on. It's been a good week and we'll look to next week now," said Dan Carter, who played at inside center on the day.

"It's always a tough challenge, doing the Grand Slam. Often you have to grind out wins. We've done it on a couple of occasions now and it's good to know we've got that character within the side."

The next few weeks promise to provide a huge mental and physical challenge for the AB's, but one man who unfortunately won't be there to take part in the experience is hooker Andrew Hore. He picked up an ankle injury in the opening minutes in Hong Kong, and will now be replaced on tour by 22-year-old Hawke's Bay hooker Hikawera Elliot.

We've found some short highlights of the match for you, but would like to know what your thoughts are regarding the possibility of further Bledisloe Cup matches outside of Australia and New Zealand? Also, are the All Blacks good enough to achieve the Grand Slam this year, or is it far from a foregone conclusion?

View the highlights here now
Time: 06:05
Note: Apologies for the extra click to get to the video, but our hands are tied on this one.

Posted at 9:27 pm | 37 comments

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boomshanka November 02, 2008 11:28 pm

1st half:strong Aussie backline/scrum,clumsy All Blacks,dodgy ref;2nd half:strong All Blacksfatigued Aussiesdodgy ref;hard to find rhythm with the whistle being blown all the time + Aussies stung by some dubious calls ?

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Anonymous November 02, 2008 11:39 pm

Bledsoe cup in the US sounds promising but why Denver?

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Simon November 03, 2008 12:01 am

Boomshanka,Judging from your assessment of the referee, I suspect that happened to watch the game on Foxtel, where the game was accompanied by some of the most partisan commentary ever heard. Even my Aussie friends were annoyed by the one-sided commentating of the game.I thought the only dodgy refereeing was in the decision of the referee not to sin-bin Stephen Moore for constantly infringing in the rucks.S

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Matthew November 03, 2008 12:03 am

I did not know that the term Grand Slam is being termed if new zealand win all their matches. I thought that it was just a 6 Nations thing. Don't you have to play France too?

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Matthew November 03, 2008 12:10 am

Forgot to mention Italy too!!

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Anonymous November 03, 2008 12:13 am

that offload from giteau was awesome

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Chris November 03, 2008 12:16 am

anonymous, It would be in denver because thats where the u.s. rugby headquarters are based. I would hope they would bring it too the states! Would definitely sell out the crowd, plus open rugby up a heap more too people.

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Tyler November 03, 2008 12:24 am

who was the starting 10 in the match? couldn't catch the match in Canada, and bring the bledisloe cup to canada, toronto or vancouver would get a better response then denver more than likely, we have a larger rugby population as far as i am aware

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Tyler November 03, 2008 12:27 am

my mistake lol we have less than 1/3 than what the US has... but we still beat them GO CANUCKS!!!!! 21-13 in portugal any chance of highlights?

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boomshanka November 03, 2008 12:27 am

simon,Saw it on SkySport NZ - with the usual kiwi commentators... never heard of Foxtel .0 advantage played,penalising a stronger Aussie scrum,missed forward passes,penalising players who had full rights to the ball...i'm a kiwi - whiles its great to win i'd rather watch a game where the ref didn't get so 'involved'great advertisement for the ELVs

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jeff November 03, 2008 12:39 am

boomshanka couldnt be more correct.i think if its one thing that came out of this game is that elvs need to be brought in. They keep the same amount of set pieces (slightly less lineouts) but speed up the game and make it far better to watch. as to people who think rugby is just getting modified to make it more entertaining, it should be, because the fans are thing that keeps the game going and they keep the dollar rolling in, rugby should support the fans by putting in the rules. ( you realise the difference in excitement when there are free kicks rather than penalties)and as for this living joke of a ref, he should learn to be less selfish, and learn that the players want to play and the fans want rugby, not watching someone blow the piss out of his whistle for 80 minutes because he can.

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Ryan November 03, 2008 1:56 am

to agree with, and combine, boomshanka and jeffs comments:imagine if the ELV's were in place for this game, then more than likely the sh**ty job of refereeing would have only resulted in 'tap and goes' by NZ, and tackles from Australia, so Carter never would have kicked those costly points which they didn't deserve in the first place! in addition to making the game more exciting and having happier fans and more money etc etc etc...agree?

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Muzz November 03, 2008 2:35 am

All Blacks were lucky Aussie tired. Ref made some dubious calls. This dailymotion is super slow/not very good (on my PC)...

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Anarchangel November 03, 2008 3:23 am

The starting number 10 was Stephen Donald. I was underwhelmed by his performance.As to the grand slam, is anyone in the North good enough to stop them?

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jeff November 03, 2008 3:25 am

yeah ryan thats right you hit it on the head. i dont know why northern hemisphere think the elvs is such a gorilla in the room. check out this interesting article on it. http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,24590676-23217,00.htmlplus i believe the referees should learn how to ref in the spirit of the game. i mean too many times referees blow up things that in the scheme of things wouldnt make a difference. the referees in my opinion should be told to blow the whistle as little as they can

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vinniechan November 03, 2008 5:17 am

I think the Donald-Carter-Smith axis is totally imbalanced. Donald-Carter-Nonu is a worth trying combination.Nonu is getting better and better :D

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geoff November 03, 2008 7:22 am

i felt sorry for donald. playing at 10 when the world's best 10 is next to you at 12. carter overshadowed donald at every stage and of course the team would revolve around carter who's been their 10 for so long. when carter played 12 at the beginning of his career, it was outside spencer and mehrtens who had the authority at 10. donald didnt stand a chance.regarding the ref, well, i dont think anyone really knew what he was on about

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robert November 03, 2008 8:22 am

Not a great advertisement for the game which is a pity because with no trophies at stake I was hoping for a free flowing match. And I agree with most of the comments about the ref and other matters .. especially this being a perfect example of a game needing a few short-arm frees to get things moving. I fear that this is the sort of refereeing that NZ and Oz are going to come up against during their NH tours so let's all hope they find a way to play some dynamic football despite the constant concerto of whistling.

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Anonymous November 03, 2008 9:12 am

i didn't watch the match live so as far as refereeing decisions go i didnt see any dodgy ones... however if nz and aus come over to europe and hit rucks like they do in this video then they will get pinged off the park- no one stays on their feet, they just fly in completely recklessly. by the ELVs over here that would never be allowed. will be interesting to see what happens in the next few weeks.

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Anonymous November 03, 2008 9:52 am

that was a very poor game. Any of these two play like that against the Boks, ENG, FRA or even ARG and they will see their moer.

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Kerivoula November 03, 2008 10:11 am

I always thought it was 'whinging Poms', but I've never heard such a bunch of whiners. Everywhere you look the (see above) it's all about the ref, of the rules...it's pathetic. Fox and the Aussie press are the same:http://www.rugbyheaven.com.au/news/news/refs-errors-goes-all-blacks-way/2008/11/02/1225560645720.htmlShame on you. Never call those Poms whingers again. pots, kettles, black.

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Kerivoula November 03, 2008 10:17 am

And a few thousand whinges..."Cost us the game". Does anyone remember the stick the AB's got after their semi-final loss to France? http://www.rugbyheaven.com.au/polls/results.html

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jack November 03, 2008 10:32 am

i agree with simon i dont understand whats happened to the foxtel commentary team, they have become so one sided this yeartheir commentating was so ridiculous

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adedayo adebayo November 03, 2008 11:22 am

Dear RugbyDump,Is Ryan Cross the ugliest aussie rugby player ever? Old bug eyes makes even Phil Waughthog look less like Pumba.Lots of loveFat Matt Dunning

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Anonymous November 03, 2008 12:05 pm

i think the only team good enuf 2 beat nz will be wales!

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bailey November 03, 2008 1:19 pm

The NH teams are good but not against these SH teams!!! I don't understand the cockiness coming out of these NH teams!! first of all Wales have no way in hell of beating the All Blacks, if they can't beat the Springboks theres no way they can beat the ABs and the Wallabies!!! England i'm not sure of cause we haven't seen them play and because of that they're gonna lose!!! SH to take it out.

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Travis November 03, 2008 3:17 pm

As an american I would love to see a match here in the states. Ive been watching the AB's for a long time and would love to see them play.

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Anarchangel November 03, 2008 3:24 pm

jack: Whenever I've heard the Aussie super 12/14 commentators, they've always been extremely one sided. I don't know if it's usually Foxtel though.

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canrugby November 03, 2008 3:38 pm

uh bailey what do you mean cockiness? All he said is that in his opinion Wales is the only team which might have a chance against NZ.Then you fire off on a rant about "cocky" NH rugby. Defensive?I'm inclined to agree, Wales is probably the best team in the north at the moment. Although I'm worried about all this player-release political garbage.

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durrie November 03, 2008 4:58 pm

Have to agree with Boomshanka and Jeff...the ref was very poor.15mins gone - Aus on attack - Scrum down - 20m out from the tryline. The Ref blows up Al Baxter for collapsing the scrum...3 things are seriously wrong with this decision.1.) It's NEVER in a loose head props advantage to collapse a scrum. He would bore in before he collapsed a scrum because at least that way he hurts his opponent.2.) It's NEVER in an attacking sides advantage to collapse a scrum for obvious reasons especially only 20meters out where the attacking options are endless.3.) The ref was on the wrong side of the scrum to Baxter so couldn't actually see that Afoa was the guilty party who couldn't actually hold the scrum up which is his job!I could go on and on about the poor decisions but Oz also threw this one away by backing off when the got rid of Donald and put it all back to normal.You could almost feel the ABs self belief rise when Nonu came on and Carter went to 10...and Oz stopped tackling for the nxt 15 mins which is when they lost the game.

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robert November 04, 2008 12:56 am

Several months back I heard a Ch. 7 commentator say during a test in Brisbane that it was the Aust prop's job to try and bring the scrum down on the opponent's put-in, and that as long as the opposition was being disrupted he could happily watch scrums being reset all day. A few minutes later he complained when another scrum collapsed because in that instance it wasn't the Aust prop's fault! The hypocrisy, not to say stupidity of this mindset is self-evident and I always think of it when, as in Hong Kong, they bleat on about getting the "wrong" end of these decisions.canrugby I agree, by saying that only Wales has a chance against the ABs is hardly NH cockiness. Besides, I think the ABs played pretty ordinary football in HK and they will struggle to get a clean sweep on tour unless they step up the intensity.. but I think they know that too.

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elliot November 04, 2008 2:14 am

I know that I'd drive all the way out to Denver just to go see that game; I'm sure it would sell out easily.That being said, it's kind of shitty that they want to move it out of Australia/NZ and deny the people there the chance to go see the game in person.

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islestyle November 04, 2008 2:37 am

i would love to see the all blacks here in the states.. i don't care how expensive it is to fly, i'll make it wherever (if ever) they have it..kind of off subject.. i heard the league game between samoa and tonga was electric.. can you guys post some highlights, if any... can't seem to view any seeing as i'm america and all

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Anonymous November 04, 2008 3:50 pm

DEAD LINK.

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Red Dog November 04, 2008 5:08 pm

Bummer... i saw the link while i was at work, but without sound, so i was looking forward to seeing it at home. DEAD. It looked like great quality.... I dont know why they bother taking down material like that, because the main people that watch it are people outside of main rugby countries, (I'm an aussie in spain), so if we didnt see this we wouldnt see rugby. They think if they take it down it might force us to buy it from media zone or something like that... fat chance of that! There's only one place for highlights and that's Rugbydump! Oh, and the countless live streaming of games that the greedy bastards cant control!Sorry... was only going to write a few words but got carried away... ;-)

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Anonymous January 21, 2009 4:08 am

Yeah, because Australian props are so obsessed with collapsing scrums, they will do it on their own feed, disadvantaging their own team, just to have the satisfaction of knowing they collapsed a scrum. That's not the stupidest, most insane logic I've ever heard. No, perfectly reasonable.

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