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Tuesday, November 18, 2008

Munster vs the All Blacks - 1978 and 2008

Munster vs the All Blacks - 1978 and 2008

All eyes will be on Thomond Park tonight as Munster host the All Blacks, 30 years after their famous 12-0 victory over the tourists from New Zealand. The match itself, while not featuring both first teams, will be an occasion not to be missed.

The VIP list includes Bono, Michael Flatley, Padraig Harrington, Jonah Lomu, and of course, the heroes from the side that won in 1978, who themselves will be presented to the capacity crowd pre kick-off.

The frontline internationals from both sides wont be on show unfortunately, as this match is scheduled a mere 3 days after the big test match between the two countries.

We all know what a second All Black team is as good as most countries first teams though, and Munster themselves, despite missing key man Ronan OGara, will field a highly competitive side.

It will be an interesting night for Kiwis Doug Howlett, Rua Tipoki, and Lifemi Mafi, who will all standup to the Haka for probably the first and last time.

Howlett, is realistic about the challenge and mindful of the history of game.

"We are certainly depleted with the internationals not being in the team. But we will work with what we have got," he said. "It's one of those one-off occasions that will never come around again. It's always been in the back of my head since I came to Ireland the possibility of playing the All Blacks.

"You look at the history of the All Blacks and there is that blemish that cropping up," the All Blacks leading try-scorer added.

The Munster win on October 31 1978 against a near full-strength New Zealand team in one of the most sensational defeats in All Black history.

All Blacks wing Bryan Williams recalls that day: "Looking back we were very complacent and we certainly paid the price. It became apparent pretty early on that Munster were really fired up. And they weren't going to take any prisoners. The longer the game went on, the worse we became. They realised they were in with a shot and we were struggling to pull ourselves together."

Weve got done something a little different on this one, and featured two clips here instead of one. The first is of the famous Christy Cantillon try from the match 30 years ago. The second, is an dramatic preview for tonight, building up to the momentous occasion that is anticipated to be another special night in the history of rugby.


31 October 1978



18 November 2008


Note: Read more about the famous win here

Posted at 9:00 am | 39 comments

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Flooz November 18, 2008 9:30 am

i'm not very fan of the preview video (maybe because i didn't like the movie :())All blacks aren't animals just great players. Furthermore, it will be a selection "bis"i was not born in 1978, but this match seemed to be epic, great try of Munster

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Patrick November 18, 2008 10:04 am

in fairness the preview video was a wee bit over the top, but we've all been looking forward to this game since it was announced!It's a pity we couldn't get a few more players back from the irish squad, particularly keith earls..... young fella like him should be able to play 3 or 4 games a week :)BTW for those who haven't seen it you should try to find Samus Dennison's tackle on Stu Wilson from the '78 game....... savage!

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Kerivoula November 18, 2008 10:57 am

Oh my God, that second video is an embarrassment to rugby. Please remove..Good on the AB's for accepting the match, this should hopefully happen more and more nowadays. There are no excuses for why not. Touring squads are bigger than they have ever been. The frequency of matches that players play on tour is going down. The quality of regional sides has gone up.Looking forward to the clips from tonight's game.

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Anonymous November 18, 2008 11:36 am

Munster got this match because of politics. Where is the next world cup, and who do you think voted for them!? Damn IRFU... It's all money and politics these days.As an out and out Leinster fan I hope Munster win. But if they lose it anywhere it will be in the pack because they're just missing too many. Go on Munster!!!

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el nino November 18, 2008 11:55 am

lol at the second vid :Perrmmm does any1 kno wher i can see the match ???? i live in england and its not on sky or eurosports :(

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dr November 18, 2008 12:06 pm

I cant believe this match isn't on tv! what are Sky Sports playing at! Nobody wants to watch Scotland U21 Vs Ireland U21 football match!

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Patrick November 18, 2008 12:41 pm

to el nino and dr,the match is being shown by the irish national broadcaster RT. If ye are in england there should definitely be an irish pub around showing it!If not then you could listen to the alternative rugby commentary of the match.... if you haven't heard that guy you should look up his vids on here and on youtube...... fair funny!

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nico November 18, 2008 1:34 pm

Good grief... A tad dramatic, ain't it?Agreed with kerivoula although I must say that I had a good laugh!Looking forward to the game.

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andy November 18, 2008 1:45 pm

Blimey, bit OTT. Good luck to Munster though.

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opfazonk November 18, 2008 2:36 pm

sorry guys, but this preview video is just absurd.... dunno, i just can't see the connection between 300 (neither the movie nor the original historical background) and tonight's match. both teams lack their key players and both teams just use it as a tester for the young and unexperienced ones...might just be my oppinion...

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Doos November 18, 2008 4:50 pm

oh my soul that video was the most embarrasing ting ive ever seen... it is so cringe.

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Anarchangel November 18, 2008 5:18 pm

Wow. The honest, civilised, manly-men giving their all against the exotic, effeminate barbarians from the far ends of the earth? Oliver Cromwell would have been proud Ireland. Weak.

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Anonymous November 18, 2008 6:17 pm

Why doesnt anyone like the previewThats wat rugby is like.Just how the spartans live and die on the battlefield so do we. We leave everything out on that field and i dont think you people realise that. Your just not real players

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Anonymous November 18, 2008 7:52 pm

300 is one of my fav movies but there should have been all rugby and no 300 clips, maybe audio

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ed November 18, 2008 9:19 pm

spartans - munster... tad egotistical. and"Just how the spartans live and die on the battlefield so do we." hahaha, ur such an idiot.

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Anonymous November 18, 2008 9:43 pm

lol just watched the game..Soooo close but i wont ruin it by giving away the score =P

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Irene November 18, 2008 10:00 pm

Yea good job giving forwards a bad name anonymous...I hate the "strength & honor" bullshit people pander. Rugby is great when it doesn't center around insulting and dehumanizing the "other" team. Read some Said, educate yourself a bit...maybe you'll learn why most people find that ugly film racist as hell. I don't care how "cool" the action sequences are...if you can't realize the underlying messages of the film then perhaps you would care to examine the dangers of Goebbels propaganda.

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Chumation sensation November 18, 2008 10:04 pm

oh man, just watched the game...just watched the preview video....take it down!! Lol! sorry but that might be cool if ur like 12 and no nothing about rugby? haha most of the clips are of ROG and for some reason flannery(the fla!) neither whom were playing...and what does ancient greek mythology have to do with a loada munster men playing the all blacks?btw...the match was CLASS!!

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Donnacha November 18, 2008 10:08 pm

Please put the highlights of the game esp the build up, with the Helicopter and the HAKA. Best Haka ever with 4 Munster players vs the whole AB team.

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Anonymous November 18, 2008 10:34 pm

Just watched the match...I live in England and before tonight didn't particularly like Munster.Well, that changed...best match I've ever seen, absolutely incredible commitment from the Munster players, and the crowd sounded intense even from a TV. Brilliant.

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Darragh November 19, 2008 12:25 am

That was the best match I have ever seen. From Timmy Ryan to Dougie Howlett, to a man Munster stood up and fought, what a match, WHAT A MATCH!!!

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robbo November 19, 2008 1:29 am

what was that? so lame and corny no need for it

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boomshanka November 19, 2008 1:51 am

great occasion... cheers heaps to Munster for letting some of the Kiwi crew do a haka before the game...epic respect !...and after that rugby performance, even more massively-epic respect times 2 .

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Anonymous November 19, 2008 3:08 am

munster-best club team in the world?after that,fact

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Cheyanqu November 19, 2008 4:19 am

Two musings about rugby & fair play from today:1) I noticed that the Munster crowd was silent during kicks at goal. At first, I thought it was a "home team" benefit. However, I was amazed to see the same silence during ABs kicks.Coming from the US pro sports environment, I was expecting the crowd to hold the silence until the optimal moment when the whole stadium would scream something like "miss" or "Noonan" (for you Caddyshack fans).2) Walter Zenga, the long-time Italian goalkeeper, instructed his players to pull their shorts down to obscure the opposing keep on a PK. His Sicilian club team won 3-2 with a successful PK. Thoroughly shameful that a coach would do that. [On a sidenote, FIFA regs require that no undergarments, like compression shorts can show from the shorts. A logical extension is that by the players intentionally pulling the shorts down, they are intentionally breaking this reg. IMHO, this should easily give the league the space with which to dock them the points] Maybe that is the difference between rugby and other sports. Also I love that Law 10 basically gives the referee the latitude to whistle anything deemed to be unsportsmanlike.Give me the oval ball anyday over the BS gamesmanship of other sport.

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Cheyanqu November 19, 2008 4:24 am

I also agree with several other here.I was not a Munster fan, particularly their during Heineken Cup.However, the way they played this match should have endeared the neutral fan to them.It should also breathe life into the "proper" tour structure, giving fringe test players a shot, and also the chance for a provincial side glory.And glad to see no Duncan McRae-like incidents.

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Anonymous November 19, 2008 7:10 am

watch the game at work. Amazing game. munster played well even without there first choice players. They pleyed with alot of heart even against a 2nd string allblack team lacking in any venom.A very close game. GO DA BLACKS(against wales)

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Patron November 19, 2008 9:38 am

Can we see the Munster Haka if you could find the video?

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Anonymous November 19, 2008 10:58 am

German Rugby TV is bringing it to you :)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpCK9-eoUqgIf only they could stop the thing with their tongues, it really looks foolish.

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Anonymous November 19, 2008 12:48 pm

don't like the second movie, at all... kind of an embarrassment to rugby indeed

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Third Centre November 19, 2008 12:57 pm

Hell of a game. Niall Ronan was amazing. Why the hell did Warwick kick the ball away ?!

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elliot November 20, 2008 5:58 am

Fantastic match!Both sides seemed to respect the other; the crowd was terrific.There was a great gesture by Cory Jane, I think, right at half time. He was edged into touch right after NZ were scrambling to move the ball forward during stoppage time, but instead of looking frustrated, he just handed the ball off to a little Munster boy who looked rather delighted.Anyways, this was just a classy match all around.

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elliot November 20, 2008 5:59 am

...just to clarify, the Munster boy was a fan sitting in the crowd. Not a ball boy...

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cliff November 20, 2008 9:19 am

What was the score then ?

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Anonymous November 20, 2008 4:34 pm

18-16 for the All Blacks

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Cheyanqu November 20, 2008 5:43 pm

elliot,I think I remember the incident.Wasn't Jane under a lot of pressure?Perhaps it was a way for him to prevent the quick throw-in by Munster, without getting penalized for it.Maybe I'm crazy... or maybe the NZLers are masters of subtle ways to get away with little things.

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elliot November 20, 2008 6:33 pm

No, the Jane incident was just around 41mins, so the next time the ball went dead, it was half.Munster was up 16-10, so they were in no rush. But NZ were really pushing hard for a couple of phases trying to get that try just before half time. Munster managed to turn it over and kicked it, only it didn't go out. Jane, I think, realized he wasn't going to make a full-field dash for a try and that's why I think he rather calmly gave the ball to a fan.Normally, yeah, that'd be a cheeky little move to slow down the game. But both sides were ready for the whistle in this case.Jane's hair, on the other hand, was anything but calm...a cross between a porcupine and a David Bowie mullet.

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Anonymous November 20, 2008 11:32 pm

Ya ur man jane giving the ball to a little fan in the crowd was great, its something so small, but its just fantastic to see, its something you dont see often...great respect

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Anonymous November 21, 2008 12:14 am

can we get some highlights?!?!?

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