Sunday, May 10, 2009
Brett Sheehan shoulder knocks Brad Barritt out cold
The Sharks look to have ruined their chances of a Super 14 Semi Final place after going down 16-12 to the Waratahs in Durban on Saturday. Coming from behind twice, the Waratahs kept the Sharks tryless to record a determined win.
Brett Sheehan made his 50th NSW appearance when he came on from the bench. It might well be his last game for them though, as he has signed for the Force, and will more than likely miss the rest of the tournament after this hit.
The two test Wallaby put the late shoulder in on Sharks center Brad Barritt, only a minute from full time.
Barritt, who returned this week from his stint in England with Saracens, was knocked out cold from the impact of the shoulder, and unfortunately had a few players land on top of him while lying there receiving treatment.
Whether Sheehan will be cited or not remains to be seen, but theres no doubt that he was lucky to get away with it on the field, as neither ref nor assistant refs saw it.
Time: 02:48
Posted at 2:39 pm | 68 comments
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Diederick May 10, 2009 7:20 pm
Sheehan has been cited, but he is claiming to be innocent and says it wasn't intentional! Please do you think anyone would believe that? Hope he gets suspended for at least 3 weeks.
Anonymous May 10, 2009 7:25 pm
Wasn't late, but high and no attempt wrap up...shoulder charge clearly.
Anonymous May 10, 2009 7:58 pm
im def gonna go with suspended for the rest of the super 14 season that was just not needed and clearly with intent to injure and there was no atempt to wrap at all just a stupid move and hes lucky he wasnt carded
Anthony May 10, 2009 8:00 pm
Honestly?? is he really trying to say he was innocent?!?! Probably was of the most obvious shoulders i have seen in a while!!!!
Kerivoula May 10, 2009 8:17 pm
Intentional. Cynical. Cheap.
So many of these incidents have two sides to the argument, but there's no excuse for this one. He knew exactly what he was doing.
Chuck the book at him.
P.S. Any news on Barritt? It would be a shame to lose him to the last games of the season.
So many of these incidents have two sides to the argument, but there's no excuse for this one. He knew exactly what he was doing.
Chuck the book at him.
P.S. Any news on Barritt? It would be a shame to lose him to the last games of the season.
Anonymous May 10, 2009 8:19 pm
looked much worse in slow motion tbh, shouldn't get too long a ban.
BamBam May 10, 2009 8:37 pm
...even worse than being cited, he should be forced to play Rugby League now. ;)
Anonymous May 10, 2009 8:39 pm
id give it the rest of the season and the starting 2 or 3 matchs of next season
clearly high
clearly no intent to wrap arms
clearly knew what he was doing
and no need for it at all.
should be off for a long time.
clearly high
clearly no intent to wrap arms
clearly knew what he was doing
and no need for it at all.
should be off for a long time.
Anonymous May 10, 2009 8:47 pm
stupid cheapshot, everyone can see it was intentional. suspension for rest of season.
BEN May 10, 2009 8:49 pm
High
Shoulder
No attempt to catch the player
stupid and dangerous tackle...
Shoulder
No attempt to catch the player
stupid and dangerous tackle...
cheyanqui May 10, 2009 10:03 pm
exactly BamBam,
Looked very "league-ish" in nature.
At this level of play, guys must be in control of their bodies, and this play was reckless.
Guy deserves a 3-wk ban -- at least guaranteeing he's done for the S14 final.
Looked very "league-ish" in nature.
At this level of play, guys must be in control of their bodies, and this play was reckless.
Guy deserves a 3-wk ban -- at least guaranteeing he's done for the S14 final.
My first sentence is May 10, 2009 10:18 pm
I don't see what was wrong with that tackle. Only joking. He's an idiot and should be banned for at least a few matches.
themull May 10, 2009 10:32 pm
Thatss pretty disgusting play......It wouldnt be half as bad if he had of just kept running forward but he threw his shoulder into his face and knew exactly what he was doing....
Even if the player had of had the ball it would have been pretty bad but because its a late hit he defo needs to be punished..
Even if the player had of had the ball it would have been pretty bad but because its a late hit he defo needs to be punished..
jamestheconvict May 10, 2009 11:03 pm
don't you guys remember the argument about shoulder charges ?
Half of you came out saying there is nothing wrong with them
yeah - nothing wrong with them at all
Half of you came out saying there is nothing wrong with them
yeah - nothing wrong with them at all
Anonymous May 10, 2009 11:14 pm
Nothing in it, there's so much pathetic complaining in rugby these days. Sure a week or twos ban for a late hit, but stop the pontificating.
caucau's no.1 fan May 10, 2009 11:20 pm
jamestheconvict,
the reason was that it was high. if he had wrapped his arms round, chances are his shoulder still would have gone into barritts face and knocked him out.
the reason was that it was high. if he had wrapped his arms round, chances are his shoulder still would have gone into barritts face and knocked him out.
Anonymous May 10, 2009 11:43 pm
i recon a short ban is all thats needed-he didnt really charge with his shoulder, he only braced himself for the hit from the dummy runner.i mean it was stupid but not to serious-only bad cos there was an injury which can happen at anytime.
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REPLY ASAP May 11, 2009 1:09 am
This is completely irrelevant but can a kiwi tell me why jerry collins retired from international rugby? I recently found out hes signed for the ospreys and hes only 29!!
Are there better 6's in the AB team?
Are there better 6's in the AB team?
Anonymous May 11, 2009 1:22 am
great game. good to see the tahs beat the sharks again. you guys need to put the stirling mortlock hit on! he smashed tony woodcock and himself.
Anonymous May 11, 2009 2:37 am
im not a fan of that ref, he's shite, and an obnoxious whore to go with it,
and for that lad makin the tackle, he should feck off and play rugby leauge for himself, cowardly shite
and for that lad makin the tackle, he should feck off and play rugby leauge for himself, cowardly shite
Anonymous May 11, 2009 6:15 am
YEah because the harder physical nature of rugby league means that to play it and put yourself at greater physical risk means your a coward. Makes heaps of sense, your a bloody genius mate.
Soft as shite, some of the comments on this site.
Soft as shite, some of the comments on this site.
Anonymous May 11, 2009 6:31 am
i suppose brad barrit had forgotten to watchout for dirty sh tactics only just got of plane from playing in best league in the world. disgusting behaviour if you cant win by playing rugby might as well cheat i think over the last few years in the sh they have had alot of thugs with nothing better to do so they give them a rugby ball iam fed up of seeing nearly every week spear tackles late tackles shoulder hits all from sh ex players or current players
Ted May 11, 2009 8:04 am
To the guy above me - what the hell are you talking about? There are plenty of dangerous tackles in our leagues as well mate so don't start fanning the flames of SH vs NH again.
To the macho blokes saying 'everyone's soft as shite' -that's just posturing. Any one of you wouldn't ever put your boots on ever again if you got hit with a late cheap shot like this.
To the macho blokes saying 'everyone's soft as shite' -that's just posturing. Any one of you wouldn't ever put your boots on ever again if you got hit with a late cheap shot like this.
Madflyhalf May 11, 2009 9:06 am
High, late and only shoulder.
Should be red carded immediatly.
4 weeks
Should be red carded immediatly.
4 weeks
Wagga Magpie May 11, 2009 9:20 am
Spot on Ted - doesn't help when they post under 'Anonymous'.
GDutch May 11, 2009 9:44 am
Obviously that's intentional, you see him watching where the ball goes as he is making the hit, and never loses sight of the ball. Pour play, 3-4 weeks.
Should video-ref be extended to these moments, where the ref can prompt a review when a player is down?
Should video-ref be extended to these moments, where the ref can prompt a review when a player is down?
Anonymous May 11, 2009 10:06 am
Late, high, cheap.
Throw the book at him, there's no place for that in rugby. Ban him for the max time for a late high shot.
Steve
Throw the book at him, there's no place for that in rugby. Ban him for the max time for a late high shot.
Steve
Anonymous May 11, 2009 10:30 am
Stuff likle this has to be clamped down on. A bit of attempted eye gouging gets hammered but tackles like this go unpunished. Soem day someone is gonna die.
Anonymous May 11, 2009 10:38 am
complete over reaction from most people. I say Buck Up, shit happens.
Anonymous May 11, 2009 11:10 am
This was a late shoulder, they happen, usually unintentionally. You'd think none of you had ever played the game!
Eye gouging is another thing entirley, far more disgusting. That is the act of a coward and a scumbag.
This was just reckless and late. A week or two's ban and we all move on.
Eye gouging is another thing entirley, far more disgusting. That is the act of a coward and a scumbag.
This was just reckless and late. A week or two's ban and we all move on.
Boz May 11, 2009 1:45 pm
At full speed it did not look late.
He had commited to the tackle, saw the ball was gone, pulled up and braced himself for the hit. Had he wrapped and finished the tackle, then it would be late.
He did not tuck the arm, did not lanuch himself, he just went into contact. Had Barritt just bounced off (and stayed awake) it would be no different than the type of incidental contat that happens all the time.
If there was no injury nobody would even be talking about this.
He had commited to the tackle, saw the ball was gone, pulled up and braced himself for the hit. Had he wrapped and finished the tackle, then it would be late.
He did not tuck the arm, did not lanuch himself, he just went into contact. Had Barritt just bounced off (and stayed awake) it would be no different than the type of incidental contat that happens all the time.
If there was no injury nobody would even be talking about this.
Anonymous May 11, 2009 3:02 pm
forget if you think it is late or not, lets say Barritt had ball in hand......it was an appalling tackle and a definate citing should take place!
*FFK*FLAKKA May 11, 2009 3:55 pm
in MY opinion most of the comments here comes from a bunch of whining little girls
Eoghan May 11, 2009 4:50 pm
Cheap shot - borderline/marginal late, but high shouldercharge (no attempt to wrap arms).
Boz...you might well be right (had their been no one knocked out)...this incident shows just why this kind of tackle has to be dealt with by a ban - it has potential to knock you the feck out lol. It should be hammered every time its caught.
Boz...you might well be right (had their been no one knocked out)...this incident shows just why this kind of tackle has to be dealt with by a ban - it has potential to knock you the feck out lol. It should be hammered every time its caught.
jaco May 11, 2009 5:43 pm
yes. even if barritt had held on to the ball it would still be an illegal and reckless tackle which warrants a yellow card in the least.
Chris May 11, 2009 6:30 pm
News just in.
Sheehan has been let off the hook and won't face any sanction.
Source:
http://www.keo.co.za/2009/05/11/sheehan-cited/
Sheehan has been let off the hook and won't face any sanction.
Source:
http://www.keo.co.za/2009/05/11/sheehan-cited/
Anonymous May 11, 2009 8:20 pm
anyone know what kind of suspension other people got for similar offences?
Anonymous May 11, 2009 8:54 pm
Filo Tiatia has done plenty like this for the Ospreys, people are only making a big deal cos he got knocked out.
martin-offload May 11, 2009 9:19 pm
Firstly league is boring, contrived and 1 dimensional. Secondly he swung his shoulder into his face and it was clearly intentional.
Anonymous May 11, 2009 10:33 pm
In the SH, this kind of thing is just shrugged off, it's just somthing that happens from time to time in the game.
In the north, maybe cuz of the influence of soccer, you lot have the biggest cry everytime someone get's hit a bit late or someone gets knocked out.
So soft.
I honestly doubt many of you have ever played the game.
In the north, maybe cuz of the influence of soccer, you lot have the biggest cry everytime someone get's hit a bit late or someone gets knocked out.
So soft.
I honestly doubt many of you have ever played the game.
Anonymous May 11, 2009 10:57 pm
wasnt intentional!bloody dummy runners need to be caught somtimes-sheehan did not have to move away!somtimes you have to put your shoulder in to brace and anyway needs to be done somtimes so that the ref notices that a dummy runer is on that might be blocking the tackle ect. only looked bad cos of the injury-hope hes alright but this kinda stuff happens all the time in rugby!!citing officers got it right nothing wrong with it as emphisised by the fact none of the sharks players reacted!
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Anonymous May 12, 2009 4:38 am
Thats a standard tackle or ruck clear out for Bakkies B...
Anonymous May 12, 2009 7:40 am
Nothing in it. How's the complaining on here though? You'd think he killed the guy!
Anonymous May 12, 2009 10:46 am
Yes, but only a week. It doesn't look intentional as Barritt was going for the pop pass. ITT: SA supporters.
cheyanqui May 12, 2009 1:15 pm
maybe time to get rid of the citing commissioner, and bring back some biff.
The citing process seems shamefully inconsistent. In a former life, a ZA rugby team would have exacted immediate punishment on the pitch.
Were this "Natal" and not the, uh
"Sharks", you would have seen a little dust up, and this guy sorted out.
I'm not defending taking the law into your own hands. But perhaps I might like to see the return of the boots. At least this way, at the next ruck this guy gets a Dallaglio special.
The citing process seems shamefully inconsistent. In a former life, a ZA rugby team would have exacted immediate punishment on the pitch.
Were this "Natal" and not the, uh
"Sharks", you would have seen a little dust up, and this guy sorted out.
I'm not defending taking the law into your own hands. But perhaps I might like to see the return of the boots. At least this way, at the next ruck this guy gets a Dallaglio special.
cheyanqui May 12, 2009 1:18 pm
I guess my point is that in the old days, there was always an air of fear that the opposition would give it back in spades to you.
With that concern in the back of your head, players might not be so reckless.
In the modern / professional game, you have very little fear of retribution.
The National Hockey League in North American has struggled with player-on-player enforcement. Some say that it actually opens up the game and allows players to protect their mates. Others think that it slows the game down.
That aside, looking to the citing commissioners for justice seems like pie in the sky.
With that concern in the back of your head, players might not be so reckless.
In the modern / professional game, you have very little fear of retribution.
The National Hockey League in North American has struggled with player-on-player enforcement. Some say that it actually opens up the game and allows players to protect their mates. Others think that it slows the game down.
That aside, looking to the citing commissioners for justice seems like pie in the sky.
No.7 May 12, 2009 4:03 pm
it does make me laugh when everyone says "yeh in the SH we are all hard as nails and this kind of thing just happens" or stuff along those lines.......ah right so basically someone could turn around and say "yeh in the NH we are all hard as nails and stamping on your lovely McCaws head is just one of those things we do it just happens" IT FUCKING DOESNT JUST HAPPEN.
the rules are there for a reason, Barritt might not have been knocked out and might not have even flinched its not the point, the point is the rules of tackling were broken... just the same as McCaw loves a bit of handling in the ruck, fairplay when he gets away with it, but you cant bitch if he gets caught and sinbinned....
if a player made every tackle a spear tackle but none of the opposition blinked about it and were fine, would you not make an issue about it? the fact is that one day the player may break someones neck.....
Brett Sheehan could have caused Barritt a lot of damage besides just knocking him out, and the fact is examples have to be made. and this is a prime example case....a clear reason why we dont tackle like league players because someone is going to get injured.
The simple fact is if we were playing league we would expect something like that, and brace accordingly......this video is like Barritt playing a quiet game of bowls while Sheehan sneaks up with a paintball gun......kinda different games if you hadnt noticed!!!
Im not sorry for the long rant!
the rules are there for a reason, Barritt might not have been knocked out and might not have even flinched its not the point, the point is the rules of tackling were broken... just the same as McCaw loves a bit of handling in the ruck, fairplay when he gets away with it, but you cant bitch if he gets caught and sinbinned....
if a player made every tackle a spear tackle but none of the opposition blinked about it and were fine, would you not make an issue about it? the fact is that one day the player may break someones neck.....
Brett Sheehan could have caused Barritt a lot of damage besides just knocking him out, and the fact is examples have to be made. and this is a prime example case....a clear reason why we dont tackle like league players because someone is going to get injured.
The simple fact is if we were playing league we would expect something like that, and brace accordingly......this video is like Barritt playing a quiet game of bowls while Sheehan sneaks up with a paintball gun......kinda different games if you hadnt noticed!!!
Im not sorry for the long rant!
Anonymous May 12, 2009 10:08 pm
No7, all I read there was "wah wah wah, I'm a big whinging girly man."
Suck it up princess.
Suck it up princess.
Anonymous May 13, 2009 12:32 am
Yeah, good result. Good to see commonsense prevailing. Can't believe all these ridiculous woosy comments. Go the TAHS!
Anonymous May 13, 2009 5:59 am
Ban him for life,someone was hurt!
We need to stamp getting hurt out of the game! Thuggery and balderdash I say!
I'd like to see a game where everyone is happy all the time and we can prance about the field, lightly tapping each other on the shoulder and politley remarking "you're it!"
We need to stamp getting hurt out of the game! Thuggery and balderdash I say!
I'd like to see a game where everyone is happy all the time and we can prance about the field, lightly tapping each other on the shoulder and politley remarking "you're it!"
No.7 May 13, 2009 7:56 pm
"No7, all I read there was "wah wah wah, I'm a big whinging girly man."
Suck it up princess."
I take it you didnt go to school then.....
or incase you dont understand that, i take it you cant read!
Suck it up princess."
I take it you didnt go to school then.....
or incase you dont understand that, i take it you cant read!
Dalma May 13, 2009 9:47 pm
As the ref said to Nalaga after his attack against Elissalde : "You were late, you were high, and you caused a serious injury. You let me no option than giving you a red card".
Must be suspended.
Must be suspended.
Anonymous May 13, 2009 11:16 pm
You guys up north are unbelievable. your gonna ruin rugby with your red card obsessions.
Anonymous May 14, 2009 9:48 pm
No.7-i dont think you are actually an openside because your clerly not tough enough to play in the forwards!rugby is a physical game and unfortunatley people somtimes get hurt-the tackle was hardly extreme!citing commisioners who know much more than you or I didnt give a ban because no laws were broken.
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