Tuesday, June 30, 2009
Peter De Villiers speaks out on Schalk Burger, rugby, and of course, ballet
De Villiers, who often baffles journalists with his strange analogies and generally confusing approach to the media, came out saying that he didn't think the Schalk Burger eye-gouge incident was worthy of a sending off at all.
Yesterday in at a press conference in Johannesburg, De Villiers once again faced the media, and once again defended Burger, adament that his actions werent deliberate. He also went on to suggest that if you can't appreciate rugby as a contact sport, you should take up ballet.
"I'm telling you, I watched the TV footage and I'm not saying anything otherwise I will go against everything we decided as a team. I watched the TV footage and I am still convinced there was nothing that he did on purpose. For Schalk himself when he watched it, he was like: 'Oh my!'. But he never meant to go to anybody's eye," De Villiers stressed.
When asked if he thinks the Burger incident overshadowed a historic win, De Villiers lit up.
"You know what, 29 years we've waited for this grrrreat occasion. 29 years! And we are going into the third Test with the series sealed. We are the winners of the British and Irish Lions series, and we are happy about it. This country can now rejoice and be positive for the next twelve years. So I would love the Lions supporters to honour the fact that we won this thing.
"It was tough and the hardest Test series I have seen in a long time. We came back from a a poor start and I never thought we would be able to do that, because this is a brilliant Lions team that we are up against," he said.
Apology
Late on Monday he cleared up what he had said about the incident, apologising for the misconception and explaining that he made his comments based on what he knows of Burger the player, not on what occurred.
"It was never my intention to suggest that I condone foul play. That is the last thing I would ever do and I apologise for that impression," he said.
SARU president Oregan Hoskins made an official apology: "We would like to apologise to the rugby community for the erroneous impression that acts of foul play are in any way condoned by South African rugby."
Is PDV barking mad, or just misunderstood and really bad at working with the media?
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Posted at 11:49 am | 89 comments
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Anonymous June 30, 2009 11:26 am

Kenny June 30, 2009 11:30 am

Truly the George Bush Jnr of International Rugby.
And whats wrong with Ballet???
Takes alot of skill and tough hours on the dance floor to master!!
Anonymous June 30, 2009 11:31 am

eatdeez June 30, 2009 11:34 am

Number7 June 30, 2009 11:36 am

Anonymous June 30, 2009 11:54 am

did'nt make any sense
bonzai June 30, 2009 11:59 am

pdv is an idiot for saying what he said because he clearly was condoning malicious foul play there is no misunderstanding if you hear what he said and the tone of his voice.
ConnachtFan June 30, 2009 12:00 pm

"there is softness creeping in to the game" You must be thinking of GAA..
Anonymous June 30, 2009 12:16 pm

But what people are trying to phase out is the kind of thuggish behaviour no one wants to see.
I play at a reasonable level and I can tell you it is physicall, it is tough, it is hard, but one thing I never want to come into the sport I love is eye gougeing, it's barbaric, wrong, and can never be condoned by anyone in that kind of position.
If indeed eye gougeing was something acceptable in rugby, as de villers suggested, then I can say now, rugby is not a sport I would continue to play.
There's no need for it, it serves no purpose, and the consequences of it going too far don't even bare thinking about.
So let me say, on behalf of all true rugby fans, players and supporters, we do not want this in our sport.
Anonymous June 30, 2009 12:27 pm

Someone tell Shane Williams that
Hackney Griffin June 30, 2009 12:27 pm

Whatever "kind of player/man" Burger is is irrelevant. For that moment he deliberately worked a guys eye. He should be looking at a seasons ban adding more shame to that delivered on him by the red card he should have received. For the figure head of SA rugby to stand up and claim that Fitzgerald, Edwards et al (and he is saying that! He states that those who moan about eye gouging should pull on their ballet shoes) should don a Tutu after being subject to such disgusting behaviour is beyond ridiculous.
Gone, surely?
Jack June 30, 2009 12:36 pm

in fairness i think that the latter comments about ballet were aimed at the handling of the botha incident.
most people on here agreed that there was nothing wrong with the botha clearout therefore i think most would agree that the handling of it was a bit 'soft' of the citing commissioner
Cheis June 30, 2009 12:37 pm

(this coming from a springbok supporter)
schalk deserves his punishment, and glad to hear he had to report to HQ after this interview to explain himself to the higher-ups in SA Rugby!
Anonymous June 30, 2009 12:41 pm

Unfortunately this is the typical kind of waffling on and saying nothing that i experience every day in Africa.. HAHAHAHAHA TIA everyone TIA (This Is Africa for those of you who dont know)
African
caucau's no.1 fan June 30, 2009 1:18 pm

rugbyazzuri June 30, 2009 1:18 pm

Anonymous June 30, 2009 1:21 pm

I'd like to see coaches held more to account for their players actions. Like fining them for incidents like this. Perhaps then the tone in training might change a wee bit.
Kabous June 30, 2009 1:29 pm

He is only there becuase of BEE (black economic empowerment)
No good piece of $%#@
Anonymous June 30, 2009 1:33 pm

What a disgrace to South African rugby, he should be sacked straight away.
bD June 30, 2009 1:33 pm

this guy should really have people write for him at press conferences.
Flooz June 30, 2009 1:36 pm

wow, this guy is curious, i don't know if he's a bit mad or a very bad communicant.
in general, i think rugby federations should work on their communications.
PS: Just look at Bastareaud affair: After FFR "omerta" and NZ Federation "barklings" bastareaud seemed to try to kill himself...
http://www.lequipe.fr/Rugby/breves2009/20090629_152035_bastareaud-hospitalise.html
Anonymous June 30, 2009 1:48 pm

I am glad that Burger was not sent off in a way, because that would have tainted it if the Lions won.
To me the Burger incident, and tth result of the test series are 2 separate issues.
PDV has to understand tha there is a line between defending a player in a 50/50 call i.e. Botha...and defending the indefensible.
Perhaps I can help PDv. ...here is what you should ahev said:
"There is no place for eye gouging in this sport or putting your fingers near the eyes. I saw the video and I will leave it to the citing process to sort out. Thank you."
Anonymous June 30, 2009 1:49 pm

Anonymous June 30, 2009 2:46 pm

Alain June 30, 2009 3:12 pm

Anonymous June 30, 2009 3:14 pm

Nick C (English Fan)
Anonymous June 30, 2009 3:15 pm

Nick C
Anonymous June 30, 2009 3:31 pm

Anonymous June 30, 2009 4:12 pm

This guy is nuts , Eric Cantonna made more sense.
One thing is clear anyway , he is only a token coloured coach and the real decisions are being nade elsewhere
There is no way SA would have won the series if he was solely in charge of the team
Anonymous June 30, 2009 4:15 pm

Burger should have received an immediate red card. As a player he has to be admired but acts like this are pure stupidity. He should have also got a longer ban than that imposed.
Botha was unluky , it looks like a fair hard challenge and his sanction should be recinded
The O Driscoll challenge which resulted in his own concussion is far worse than that of Botha
Jot June 30, 2009 4:42 pm

What Burger did was disgraceful and yes he should have received a longer ban.
Even though I think PDV is an idiot the guy does have a point, rugby is a contact sport. Bakkies is banned for 2 weeks, ridiculous. Why has the citing committee not said or done anything regarding the reckless challenge of O Driscoll?
Also, nobody from the Lions Management congratulated the Springbok coaching team and I think that is pathetic. All everyone is going on about is the Burger incident. F..CK me its not like the Lions would have won the match had he not put his finger in the guys eye! In fact the Lions scored 10 points during the time he was in the bin. Get over it!
Anonymous June 30, 2009 4:43 pm

But he isn't black...
jacobo June 30, 2009 4:46 pm

dr June 30, 2009 4:55 pm

However, I'm starting to think he is maybe just a little bit stupid, and stays things that no other coach would be daft enough to say. I defo think he has "foot in mouth disease" he needs to get that checked.
I believe he doesnt do much as a coach either and Matfield and Smit do most of the work.
dj June 30, 2009 6:27 pm

i understood every word there but as a sentence it makes abslutely no sense. also how can he defend burger by saying he was talking by how he knew the guy??? hes known as 'yellow card burger' ffs!!
Anonymous June 30, 2009 6:42 pm

Anonymous June 30, 2009 7:23 pm

PdV to join the Victor Hugo Cardinali Circus' grand tour. There's your test series, pete
Third Centre June 30, 2009 8:18 pm

Imagine if Croft did that to Habana and Geech or Davies said that ?!!!!
Anonymous June 30, 2009 9:01 pm

I know SA fans are saying BOD's tackle was illegal but I didn't think so (again I'm not sure). I'm Irish, and trying hard not to be biased here, but to me it kinda looks like he took on a guy who was physically larger than him and got blown back in the tackle before he could wrap his arms around Roussouw.
BOD is a pretty good tackler - I simply don't think he would NEED to resort to an illegal hit. Like, if you pause the video on 5:16 it looks like he's getting his arms around Roussouw and then just gets smacked backwards.
Can someone clarify this?
Jochen June 30, 2009 10:11 pm

Seems the Springboks are still receiving benefit from Jake Whites coaching work and this cant be f#cked up by this strange guy
Brighty June 30, 2009 10:34 pm

He puts eye gouging and hard hits in the same bracket. Hard hits: good. Eye gouging: appalling.
No-one is asking for the game to be less physical. The Try Savers & Rib Breakers compilations are fantastic and a big, legally-executed, well-timed hit is as entertaining as a slick backs move resulting in a try.
Eye-gouging is, on the other hand, not a part of the game I want to be associated with. No place for it.
Re: citings...and I pin my colours to the mast as a Lions fan...
Berger should have got 6 months upwards, as should anyone who gouges.
Bakkies, shouldn't have been cited.
Sheridan should have been cited for that punch to the goolies.
BOD's tackle on Roussow was fine. He has his arms in the process of wrapping but they both get bounced away from the point of impact because it was an absolute car crash of a hit.
Doyle June 30, 2009 10:43 pm

T June 30, 2009 11:37 pm

That's a pretty poor cover up for a completely distorted view on a "contact sport".
Never do it deliberately? What the hell, so Burger just got his fingers stuck in Fitzgerald's eye and then decided the best thing to do was push them in further? He's stupid, but not that stupid.
He is just a thug, and he seems to have lost what little respect he already had from his countrymen.
Patrick, Ireland June 30, 2009 11:40 pm

and his apology saying that he did not attempt to condone eye gouging is total bullshit too. he clearly says that if we do dancing instead "there will be no eye gouging, no tackling". he equates eye gouging (a disgusting and inexcusable act) with tackling (a fundamental and integral part of our great game).
surely must lose his job, the south africans have a reputation for playing the game hard but fair, keeping this idiot at the helm of their sport will contradict this. must go.
cheyanqui June 30, 2009 11:41 pm

Patrick, Ireland June 30, 2009 11:43 pm

Anonymous July 01, 2009 12:12 am

Will July 01, 2009 12:38 am

Anonymous July 01, 2009 1:14 am

Which makes me wonder how the Springboks are so good (BRING BACK JAKE WHITE)
But obviously; in the words of Peter De Villiers: "Rugby is a contact sport....... so is dancing" blokes fuckt
No.7 July 01, 2009 2:46 am

Yes rugby is a contact sport, people do get hurt, people break bones, but the point is if it happens within the rules then no one can complain!!! ....a point PDV seems to miss!
it was umm....Chris Czekay...(spelling?) of wales who broke his leg against australia, the guy who tackled him was not out to cause damage and i personally cannot see any welsh standing up and saying "its outrageous he broke Chris' leg" etc because it was an accident.....
now however bad you do or dont think burgers gouge was, if he had blinded Fitzgerald, or if parisse or anyone who gouges blinds someone, this suddenly makes things a lot more serious..... and i think PDV is seriously out of touch!
No.7 July 01, 2009 2:52 am

"It's rugby, not ballet"
Someone tell Shane Williams that"
HAHAHA AWESOME!!!
p.s i agree i think BODs tackle wasmt intentionally bad, he connected heads, hence the concussion. if the boks fans think he should be cited then its up to them, but personally i think BOD went in for a hard tackle then couldnt wrap because he connected heads with a brick wall!
goodNumer10 July 01, 2009 6:39 am

I reckon he must be 90% of the posters on here :D
why dind't he just stand up and say
"BOKS 2- BIL 0 - how'd you like them apples?"
jon July 01, 2009 7:24 am

David July 01, 2009 7:34 am

No.7 July 01, 2009 1:12 pm

BOD talking about things!! great to hear from a legendary player!
No.7 July 01, 2009 1:16 pm

_ that works....my previous attempt did not.......
Wessel July 01, 2009 1:51 pm

And for your information. PDV is what South Africans would call coloured. (Who at times are regarded as black depending on the intracacies of SA politics).
Couloured is an umbrella term for people of Khoi, San, mixed race or Malaysian, Sri Lankan heritage. And what they usually have in common is that they speak Afrikaans.
Coloureds, because of their close association with Afrikaners tend to be rather into rugby. Hence Habana, Pietersen, Januarie are all coloureds.
Peter De Villiers July 01, 2009 1:53 pm

Anonymous July 01, 2009 2:34 pm

bilions July 01, 2009 7:12 pm

Gregoire July 02, 2009 1:49 am

Eye gouging is unacceptable. Players in (European) Heineken Cup have been banned for months without real evidence of eye-gouging : Burger should get something like 6 months off - I know he'll get much less though.
I'd also like to put this into context. If eye-gouging has been an illegal, reprehensible part of rugby since it started -but present nonetheless- i must say that during all that happened over the summer tours, the Bastareaud episode seems much more important to me. Not only did a lie by a 20-year old rugby player take international proportions, but the player in question just tried to end his life because of the media pressure that followed it. I'm not defending the lie, all i'm saying is that this kind of changes in our favorite sport (media pressure, Prime Ministers exchanging public apologies, and the amount of money involved in the game) is in my opinion a much worse problem we have to face.
As angry as I was against Burger while watching the game, I must say I got a reality check when I heard young Bastareaud almost killed himself because of that yet-to-be-clarified incident. I'd rather concentrate on showing him my support than dissing Burger.
Sorry this has gone a bit off-topic,
A French rugby lover
Gregoire July 02, 2009 1:54 am

all i'm saying is that these changes in our favorite sport (media pressure, Prime Ministers exchanging public apologies, and the amount of money involved in the game) are in my opinion much worse problems we have to face.
('orry)
Anonymous July 02, 2009 7:08 am

This, given that it is purely a reaction to the weekends events, is vindication for all who were unsatisfied by both the refs reaction and the light ban Burger recieved.
Anonymous July 02, 2009 7:26 pm

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Cheech July 04, 2009 11:14 am

PEACE
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