Saturday, July 25, 2009
Springboks too strong for the All Blacks in Bloemfontein
The Springboks dominated the majority of the first half, and despite a few missed kicks at goal, went into halftime 14-3 up after two penalties from Francois Steyn, one from Ruan Pienaar, and a neatly taken try by the Bok number ten.
Pienaar, who looked to have taken a heavy knock fairly early on, didnt return in the second half, and was replaced by Morne Steyn, the hero of the epic second test in the British & Irish Lions series recently.
New Zealand came out looking like a different side in the second half, as they were far more organised and strung some phases together, culminating in an excellently taken try by centre Conrad Smith.
Stephen Donald was on form with the boot, but so was Morne Steyn, who kicked three penalties of his own, further extending the Springbok lead.
A late try from Jaque Fourie after pressure from Pierre Spies, took the stuffing out of the All Black comeback.
A penalty by Donald with five minutes left gave them hope, but it was replacement flyhalf Steyn who sealed the win for the home side with a late penalty from the half way line, denying the visitors the losing bonus point they were looking for.
The same two sides meet again next weekend, in Durban, for what should be another classic Test match between these old foes.
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Posted at 7:52 pm | 69 comments
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Huh!! the 3rd July 25, 2009 7:01 pm
It has to be mentioned, especially after my rant last week, great reffing from Roland.
Finally a ref penalising a Scrum Half for feeding the second rows at scrum. Talking to both teams letting them know why they being penalised and lastly and most importantly reffing the breakdown not allowing players go off their feet. And doing it early so as not to spoil the contest.
On the match, ABs poor, SA there for the taking yet again, Henry must take the blame for dropping Cowan (Leonard hasn't played since April) and not introducing McAllister earlier. Don't think Donald is going to last too much longer.
Nonu poor again, where has the player from last year gone?, JDV had him all day, hope his injury isn't serious, what with coming to Munster and all, not another Christian Cullen. He was walking at the end so looks ok.
Finally a ref penalising a Scrum Half for feeding the second rows at scrum. Talking to both teams letting them know why they being penalised and lastly and most importantly reffing the breakdown not allowing players go off their feet. And doing it early so as not to spoil the contest.
On the match, ABs poor, SA there for the taking yet again, Henry must take the blame for dropping Cowan (Leonard hasn't played since April) and not introducing McAllister earlier. Don't think Donald is going to last too much longer.
Nonu poor again, where has the player from last year gone?, JDV had him all day, hope his injury isn't serious, what with coming to Munster and all, not another Christian Cullen. He was walking at the end so looks ok.
Anonymous July 25, 2009 7:09 pm
the AB's were poor in the 1st half because the Boks made them play poor!!!! Well done SA from a neutral fan!!
Anonymous July 25, 2009 7:49 pm
the boks are so stupid, they have morne steyn, perhaps the best kicker in the world and they put piennar at fly half?!
wallabies fan
wallabies fan
Nick J July 25, 2009 8:06 pm
Totally agree with most of the above. Morne steyn showed throughout the series against the Lions that hes SA's best no.10 - perhaps even the world's best? - so why didn't he start? Ruan Pienaar was disappointing with the boot and as a stand-off yet again.
Also for all his reputation, 'The Beast' has failed to impress since he demolished Vickery for 55 mins in the 1st Lions test and had another poor game.
Then from the ABs side - they looked utterly clueless when they weren't breaking forward. Once SA had any kind of organisation back in place the ABs couldnt get through. For me the blame there rests with the scrum-halfs - leonard appaling, weepu not much better in the 2nd 40. Likewise Andrew Hore had a poor game both throwing and in the loose. It'll need a better performance to compete with the quality of the SA lineout/pack.
Also for all his reputation, 'The Beast' has failed to impress since he demolished Vickery for 55 mins in the 1st Lions test and had another poor game.
Then from the ABs side - they looked utterly clueless when they weren't breaking forward. Once SA had any kind of organisation back in place the ABs couldnt get through. For me the blame there rests with the scrum-halfs - leonard appaling, weepu not much better in the 2nd 40. Likewise Andrew Hore had a poor game both throwing and in the loose. It'll need a better performance to compete with the quality of the SA lineout/pack.
Anonymous July 25, 2009 8:26 pm
What is it with fly halfs that they simply cant tackle??
Anonymous July 25, 2009 8:27 pm
Sweet!!! Boks played well, but All Blacks are looking a bit wanting. I think they can now see what it is to have to travel abroad for the second game of the Trinations. Next game will be tougher and the Bok team will look different oweing to injuries. Great game - great win - Bokke!!
Condor July 25, 2009 8:31 pm
Great play by the Springboks, showing what hey are capable of. All Blacks lacking a good 10 and having Ma'a Nonu lost in the pitch doesn't help either. Great for Morne Steyn, think Pienaar has his Boks days counted.
Boks to take the Tri!!!
Boks to take the Tri!!!
Anonymous July 25, 2009 8:50 pm
If only Pienaar had Steyn's boot! Yes Morne kicked some goals but he made an abysmal attempt at stopping Smith and basically let in the try. Ruan for controlling a game, Steyn for kicking it. Still, a heatening display from the Bokke, lets have another one in Durban. Bokke!!!!
Anonymous July 25, 2009 8:54 pm
Seeeshsss, why do the Boks always make hard work for themselves??? Well played Boks but ALOT of room for improvement, can't wait to see what happens when we actually get things right for the full 80mins!! Come on the Boks!!!
Anonymous July 25, 2009 8:55 pm
BOKKE NO 1!!!! Let's hope it stays like that after the 3N!!!!
Anonymous July 25, 2009 8:57 pm
To wallabies fan - it aint the boks who are stupid, its the coach - even the crowd were shouting for Morne in the 1st half!!!
Anonymous July 25, 2009 8:58 pm
Morne, missed the tackle which lead to the AB's try....so who says he's better than RP????? I don't mind us missing a few kicks, but missing a tackle which leads to a try.....hmmm???
Anonymous July 25, 2009 9:02 pm
Spieeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssss, setup BOTH of our tries!!!!
Anonymous July 25, 2009 9:03 pm
RD, when are you going to include the haka in the highlights - it's part of the game and leaving it out is just - CRIMINAL!!!
Greiffel July 25, 2009 9:04 pm
Use a name when commenting guys. Anonymous posts are pretty pointless and dependant on admin moods, will quite possibly be deleted :)
Great game.
Great game.
Anonymous July 25, 2009 9:07 pm
who is pienaars father who scored in the exact same corner against the B&I lions ?? the commentator says this but doesn't give a name....anyone know?
Greiffel July 25, 2009 9:14 pm
Gysie Pienaar is Ruan's father. Played fullback for the Springboks and was assistant coach at one stage if my memory serves me correctly.. possibly 1995.
Anonymous July 25, 2009 9:22 pm
Im not a bok fan, but I must admitt - everytime I see Jacques Fourie play - he impresses me and he always scores and never,never gives up!!
Patrick July 25, 2009 9:29 pm
I really don't see how people are so impressed by morne steyn.... don't get me wrong he's an excellent goal kicker and obviously has a very good big match temperment, but as a play maker he's hopeless. After he came on in the 2nd half he didn't challenge the all black defense at all, just got it and booted it up in the air. That allowed the AB's to get back in to the game, and they were easily the better team in the 2nd half. It means that the first instinct of both 9 and 10 is to kick it and they become very 1 dimensional. I think if steyn is playing when they get to sea level, and particularly when they get to NZ, all the bok fans giving out about pienar will be changing their minds.
Anonymous July 25, 2009 9:39 pm
Pienaar is the best Flyhslf the Boks have. Morne Steyn is purely a goal kicker and gives very few options on attack.
Anonymous July 25, 2009 10:10 pm
Percy just needs to spend more time showing pienaar how it's done and then he will be better, well he can't get any worse! Since Naas Botha we have always struggled at 10...
Anonymous July 25, 2009 10:13 pm
I agree with patrick, it's pienaar all the way (he just needs to sort his place kicking out)
James July 25, 2009 10:14 pm
Well does this means the B&I Lions are better then new zealand and make the results of the lions tour all the better???
James July 25, 2009 10:14 pm
Well does this means the B&I Lions are better then new zealand and make the results of the lions tour all the better???
Anonymous July 25, 2009 10:58 pm
James - spoken like a true NH fan, how can losing a series 2-1 be made better by the result of a 3N game?????
Anonymous July 25, 2009 11:30 pm
enjoyed the 2nd try by the boks, talk about taking your chances! They forced the AB's into so many errors! Well played boks
caucau's no.1 fan July 25, 2009 11:33 pm
morne steyn isnt even close to being the best fly half in the world, outrageous statement! seem to have forgotten about a certain aussie who would have something to say about that.
as for nonu, i think the pressures on for him to become a playmaker now carters not by his side. carter and him make a great threat because both are multifaceted, donald has a decent kicking game but not much on attack. smiths a good player but hes not explosive so all the impetus for crossing the gain line is on him, making it a pretty difficult job! rokocoko doesnt seem to be the player of old either which is a shame, although nice to see mccaw show some aggression and passion at the start of a match, beginning to think he was a machine!
as for nonu, i think the pressures on for him to become a playmaker now carters not by his side. carter and him make a great threat because both are multifaceted, donald has a decent kicking game but not much on attack. smiths a good player but hes not explosive so all the impetus for crossing the gain line is on him, making it a pretty difficult job! rokocoko doesnt seem to be the player of old either which is a shame, although nice to see mccaw show some aggression and passion at the start of a match, beginning to think he was a machine!
H July 25, 2009 11:46 pm
How can you enjoy the 2nd try? Possibly the worst try ever. Weepu poor pass from ruck, then clears up his own mess but lobs a horrible pass bask inside... Weepu you've had a mare!
JuiCe July 26, 2009 1:00 am
Anonymous July 26, 2009 7:23 am
Hopefully De Villiers doesn't pick Rose for the next game, as he is able to cover flyhalf and Ruan Pienaar is injured.
Anonymous July 26, 2009 8:55 am
Super 14 champs, 7s champs, world champs, lions tour champs IRB #1 in the world and now soon to be Tri-nations champs. YES! BOKKE
Anonymous July 26, 2009 9:44 am
To the above - with all of those results, the only downfall is that we will never lose PDivvy as coach.....urrrrghhhh!! But if the Boks keep winning and he learns to keep his mouth SHUT, im happy!!
jim July 26, 2009 10:57 am
ha yeah great game but my lord the rucks are so intense their abit of a mess i feel sorry of the ref and the players its hard to see where the gate is or if the balls in or out and the amount of hands it their is mad! good tho
Wessel July 26, 2009 12:28 pm
Rugbydump does a great job, but sometimes the editing of the games are appalling.
You seem to be fixated on the scoring and missing the real significant moments of the match.
Case in point, the kicks Piemaar missed were more significant than the kicks that went over.
Brussow and Macaws battle was key, but there is no footage of this or the many turn overs both of them effected.
Spies's powerful runs drew in many defenders, but there's no footage of that.
South African dominance at the line outs and the rolling malls - once again no footage of it.
This package bears little resemblance to the match.
You seem to be fixated on the scoring and missing the real significant moments of the match.
Case in point, the kicks Piemaar missed were more significant than the kicks that went over.
Brussow and Macaws battle was key, but there is no footage of this or the many turn overs both of them effected.
Spies's powerful runs drew in many defenders, but there's no footage of that.
South African dominance at the line outs and the rolling malls - once again no footage of it.
This package bears little resemblance to the match.
Anonymous July 26, 2009 2:15 pm
Wow the blacks look dull nowadays. What happened to all their attacking flair?
anonymous no.6 July 26, 2009 2:54 pm
@ Wessel
I do kind of agree but its pushing it to ask RD to include those things. That clip was 8 minutes long which is fairly long considering the limits of most video sites...
As a highlights video I think its perfect, unless they were uploading the whole match (which would bring legal issues I suspect) there isn't much to be gained from those interesting passages of play except a slightly confusing video with odd parts where there is no end result.
Oh and that lady at 6:36 was a pretty sight. But it might just be me...
Thanks RD.
I do kind of agree but its pushing it to ask RD to include those things. That clip was 8 minutes long which is fairly long considering the limits of most video sites...
As a highlights video I think its perfect, unless they were uploading the whole match (which would bring legal issues I suspect) there isn't much to be gained from those interesting passages of play except a slightly confusing video with odd parts where there is no end result.
Oh and that lady at 6:36 was a pretty sight. But it might just be me...
Thanks RD.
Elliot July 26, 2009 3:52 pm
Nice to see some good refereeing; the penalizing at the scrum was duly needed.
South African dominated the mauls and line outs, and they crept up the field quite nicely, but it felt like NZ was more creative if/when the backs ever got the ball.
With de Villiers, Habana, Fourie, etc., why doesn't SA ever seem to unleash their back talent?
South African dominated the mauls and line outs, and they crept up the field quite nicely, but it felt like NZ was more creative if/when the backs ever got the ball.
With de Villiers, Habana, Fourie, etc., why doesn't SA ever seem to unleash their back talent?
herons1 July 26, 2009 5:01 pm
To Wessel
As the author of the video as picked up by RD, I had considered using the kicks that hit the posts and the handbag fight but given the limitations of 10 mins on you tube i decided that the video of some nice looking women would be far better
As the author of the video as picked up by RD, I had considered using the kicks that hit the posts and the handbag fight but given the limitations of 10 mins on you tube i decided that the video of some nice looking women would be far better
Anonymous July 26, 2009 8:12 pm
Thought Jean De Villers made Ma'a Nonu look utterly useless and when he couldn't use his size he was nothing. Pierre Spies burned half the All Black backline before the 2nd try! Also I still cant figuer out how Stephen Donald is starting even in the absence of Carter, he cant do anything other than kick!
Felipe July 26, 2009 8:32 pm
Graaaaaande Springboks, futuros campeones del tres naciones.
Hendrick July 26, 2009 10:49 pm
The ABs look poor, and SA looked good. SA is the best team in the world right now in my opinion. Be it the players, coaching, or just plain talent.
Anonymous July 27, 2009 12:16 am
No more arguments. World Champs and IRB #1. BEST TEAM IN THE WORLD.
HmmYeh July 27, 2009 7:24 am
all blacks are so terrible to watch now, this coming from a kiwi. does anyone else think that they look like they're waiting for try opportunities to pop up and say "hey come score" its like they think they have the right to win games without playing, donald has always pissed me off, if henry hadnt been such a dick and given evans game time he might have stuck around, nonu has been dissapointing, id be keen to see mccalister put back in at 12 also i cant believe im saying this but i think muliaina needs to take a hard look at himself great player but hes been flat id like to see corey jane get a start at the back also for any people who watch super 14 closely i wouldnt say no to dnaiel bowden jumping in at 10 just off the bench, just for a bit of attacking flair.
Just a Fan July 27, 2009 8:25 am
Well done Bokke - fantastic win! Beat the All Blacks by 9 points, two tries to one, and denied then a bonus point. Doesn't get much better than that!
We lost our way a bit in the 2nd half - thank goodness Morne didnt play a full game - his defense is awful and he cant control the back line. Just imagine how many more tries he would have let thru. He has alot to learn before he can be considered first choice. Ruan will get his confidence back - but we do have other options at kicking. Being a decent flyhalf is as important as kicking the penalites.
Cant believe that Snor gave Panic Mechanic a run on.
Again Well done Bokke.
We lost our way a bit in the 2nd half - thank goodness Morne didnt play a full game - his defense is awful and he cant control the back line. Just imagine how many more tries he would have let thru. He has alot to learn before he can be considered first choice. Ruan will get his confidence back - but we do have other options at kicking. Being a decent flyhalf is as important as kicking the penalites.
Cant believe that Snor gave Panic Mechanic a run on.
Again Well done Bokke.
creggs08 July 27, 2009 10:00 am
just something i seen there, and something i constinaly seen NZ props do in the super 14, but why do they wrap so much tape around there ankles??? is it for better scrummaging or is there a theory behind it??
Andy July 27, 2009 10:53 am
Well done SA, what a win. Don't think there's any argument to the fact you're the best team in the world now. That was probably the last point you had to prove.
England fan.
England fan.
kiwi28 July 27, 2009 11:46 am
KIWI FAN - BOKS PLAYED UNREAL THEY DESERVE THE N#1 SPOT IM SURE THE ALL BLACKS WILL GET BACK IT WAS WELL DESERVED BY THE BOK'S THE BEAT US AT THE BREAK DOWN AND THE PRESSURE WAS ON ALL DAY I THINK IT WILL BE A TOUGH SECOND GAME CANT WAIT TILL CARTER COMES BACK AFTER THAT
Wessel July 27, 2009 6:31 pm
herons1 - good on you for making the vid, but I respectfully disagree. There's a video on stuff.co.nz, that features both of the wrong feeds into the scrums, two line out horrors, both kicks that hit the uprights, all three tries, the handbag incident, and a few others, and its not even 5 minutes long. So enough time to include the gorgeous Saffa women.
I mean if a friend asks you to describe the match your not only going to talk about the scores are you?
The same applies to video. You have to give a reflection of what happened, and in this case it would have been mistakes by the All blacks, bad kicks by the Saffas, and some massive forward power - especially in the first half.
Having said that - props to you for doing the trouble to making it in the first place.
I mean if a friend asks you to describe the match your not only going to talk about the scores are you?
The same applies to video. You have to give a reflection of what happened, and in this case it would have been mistakes by the All blacks, bad kicks by the Saffas, and some massive forward power - especially in the first half.
Having said that - props to you for doing the trouble to making it in the first place.
Anonymous July 27, 2009 8:49 pm
Not to be rude, but I watched this game with my old man and we both agreed it was one of the worst games of rugby we've ever seen. There was mistake after mistake throughout and it got tiresome after a while. Also not sure who the All Black no.9 was but he had an absolute shocker!
Canadian Content July 27, 2009 9:35 pm
I don't really like him, but Bismarck Du Pleissi (sorry about the spelling) had a hell of a game. Tonnes of tackles and great play in the loose. The Scottish #2 owes him for a chokehold in the 3rd Lions test though.
Ross had a good game for the AB's too. He's a keeper.
Ross had a good game for the AB's too. He's a keeper.
Rol July 27, 2009 11:14 pm
Anybody else thinks Winand Olivier should be given a chance to play outside Jean de Villiers? He offers way more than big Jacque Fourie on attack (he's a big guy with lots of pace, but i guess we already have Spies to do that) and he's also no pushover in defence watching de super 14 and his brief B&I Lions series.
Anonymous July 28, 2009 3:44 am
the age of the all black has ended..no one will stay on top anymore ... Rugby is now competitive..
jon July 28, 2009 5:08 am
Wow, how long have you been watching rugby for??
You think cuz the kiwis have lost a couple games, it's changed the fundamental breakdown of rugby?
The Saffers have been top of the world before, the Kiwis have lost to them in SA and lost to the French as well before.
They are still one of the best teams in the world, and when Carter's back, will be a step above where they are at the moment.
SA NZ and Aus are still easily the best three teams in the world, the European teams are still a step behind.
If the World Cup was tomorrow it'd still be the same handful of teams with a realistic chance of winning it.
You know your history? The 1998 All Blacks lost about 5 tests in a row, was that the end of All Black domination?
You think cuz the kiwis have lost a couple games, it's changed the fundamental breakdown of rugby?
The Saffers have been top of the world before, the Kiwis have lost to them in SA and lost to the French as well before.
They are still one of the best teams in the world, and when Carter's back, will be a step above where they are at the moment.
SA NZ and Aus are still easily the best three teams in the world, the European teams are still a step behind.
If the World Cup was tomorrow it'd still be the same handful of teams with a realistic chance of winning it.
You know your history? The 1998 All Blacks lost about 5 tests in a row, was that the end of All Black domination?
Anonymous July 28, 2009 5:56 am
i think argentina should be in this competition, of course they won't be the champions but ...
jon July 28, 2009 7:40 am
Argies face obstacles. The travel would encompass the entire girth of the globe, the players would be cicumnavigating the globe to play a few games of rugby, and that's a massive ask.
If the argies were in the 3-nations, it'd be like Japan and USA being in the 6-nations. Same distances would be involved. Think on that for a second.
The main obstacle though, besides funding, which is another problem, is that all fo the Argies best players play in Europe and the tri-nations overlaps the start of the European club season.
It would mean the best Argie players (like Contepomi etc) would be spending a third oftheir club seasons down under.
If you can think of solutions to those problems, than sweet. Otherwise it is gonna be a huge challenge to get them involved.
If the argies were in the 3-nations, it'd be like Japan and USA being in the 6-nations. Same distances would be involved. Think on that for a second.
The main obstacle though, besides funding, which is another problem, is that all fo the Argies best players play in Europe and the tri-nations overlaps the start of the European club season.
It would mean the best Argie players (like Contepomi etc) would be spending a third oftheir club seasons down under.
If you can think of solutions to those problems, than sweet. Otherwise it is gonna be a huge challenge to get them involved.
Anonymous July 29, 2009 11:56 pm
BOKKE! Can't wait for next Sat!!! Bring it on!!!
zacaria July 31, 2009 1:23 am
are you sure they included ALL of the conversions??? i never thought i would get bored during a highlight video, especially of a tri nations match.
Anonymous August 03, 2009 8:33 am
To the guy who says fly halfs cant tackle ... have u never heard of jaun martin hernandez or jonny wilkinson or luke mcalister ?
they are all huge tacklers!
they are all huge tacklers!
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