Tuesday, July 28, 2009
All Blacks Haka against the Springboks in Bloemfontein
The home side, the Boks, won the match 28-19 in what was yet another tense and entertaining Test match between the two countries.
The look of intensity on the players' faces prematch, during the Haka, told a story in itself as these two sides went at it for the full eighty minutes.
The Springboks looked the better side though, as the All Blacks' error strewn performance will be of slight concern going into the next Test in Durban on Saturday.
Sure, they had a challenging turn around after the long trip from Auckland, but very rarely have a South African side managed to dominate and look as much in control against the All Blacks, as they did this past weekend.
The mistakes of the first half cost the AB's dearly, and the second half is perhaps a sign of things to come, as they find their feet on tour.
The Test at Kingspark on Saturday will be yet another classic between these great rivals of the rugby world. Expect the All Blacks to bounce back, and the Boks to lift their game in order to keep them out.
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Posted at 1:12 pm | 32 comments
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Mark July 28, 2009 12:05 pm
First. Dont agree with crowds singing during haka. Prefer to show respectful silence as they wud a national anthem. Good 2 c d old haka again. Good win 4 boks
sergeant stu July 28, 2009 12:33 pm
Singing's fine during the haka. It's a competitive advantage so the home crowd need to do something to offset it given that most teams can't respond with their own version. It's a great spectacle though, makes rugby great. Next week will be intense!
Riff July 28, 2009 12:41 pm
I don't understand why people cant sing during the haka, Im sure the Kiwis are tough enough to take it ;p
Anonymous July 28, 2009 12:51 pm
Now i see that ali williams really fucked the haka up, this one was great!
Anonymous July 28, 2009 12:54 pm
I honestly don't think the haka gives them an advantage. One team is there to play rugby and the other wants to sing and dance first. Just watch them do them thing, try not to laugh and them play rugby which is why they're there.
Anonymous July 28, 2009 12:55 pm
Botha looks that he cant count to three in this vid... hahaha... !
Anonymous July 28, 2009 1:18 pm
If you dont want people to sing during the haka then NZ shouldnt be able to put mics infront of the haka when they play at home to make it louder!
Bradders July 28, 2009 1:52 pm
Januarie looked like he needed a change of pants during that!
Anonymous July 28, 2009 3:24 pm
just about to say that about Januarie too...he looked rattled
Anonymous July 28, 2009 5:00 pm
'First. Dont agree with crowds singing during haka. Prefer to show respectful silence as they wud a national anthem. Good 2 c d old haka again. Good win 4 boks'
get complaints with fans singing, players approaching them during the haka and even when they just stand still. is there anything that people can do during the haka that everyone will agree on?
get complaints with fans singing, players approaching them during the haka and even when they just stand still. is there anything that people can do during the haka that everyone will agree on?
smelly gee July 28, 2009 5:15 pm
they never seem to lose after kapa o pango. is that their get out of jail haka? or do they only do it when the team has earned the respect through previous outings?
ulsterfan July 28, 2009 9:23 pm
i'm not 100% sure, but i think the kapa o pango is delivered to teams that they don't respect as much. could be wrong, please don't smite me if i am.
Huh!! the 3rd July 28, 2009 9:57 pm
No Ulsterfan, its more for special occasions, like in Croke Park. It seems the more history the fixture, the more likely they'll do it. Home games against Australia when series are on the line are the most common times I've seen it.
My problem with the Haka isn't the challenge itself, I love that, but the cameras getting in the way of both sets of players, I know it gives the viewer a better view from their armchair, but it takes away from the intensity from inside the stadium. One way of countering this is for the players to be closer, say 5m either side of halfway instead of the 10m line. But of course, that brings more trouble and Ma'a Nonu might end up crying again.
Also, to someone above, Ali Williams may look idiotic as you suggest, but what neutrals and the ABs wouldn't give for him to be playing and at least challenging Matfield. I think he's as big a loss as Carter.
My problem with the Haka isn't the challenge itself, I love that, but the cameras getting in the way of both sets of players, I know it gives the viewer a better view from their armchair, but it takes away from the intensity from inside the stadium. One way of countering this is for the players to be closer, say 5m either side of halfway instead of the 10m line. But of course, that brings more trouble and Ma'a Nonu might end up crying again.
Also, to someone above, Ali Williams may look idiotic as you suggest, but what neutrals and the ABs wouldn't give for him to be playing and at least challenging Matfield. I think he's as big a loss as Carter.
Anarchangel July 28, 2009 11:35 pm
Yeah, average haka, intensity wise. But all the Boks on camera look like drooling idiots!
I refer to kapa o pango as the teabag haka. Sometimes the teabaging is because they're playing a lesser team, sometimes it's because they really mean business against a serious team. I hope they pull it out on Saturday.
As a regular NZ fan without any specialised cultural knowledge of haka protocol, I don't mind the crowd singing or whatever, or the other team staring or walking up, that's fine. I just wish they'd mic it so that the fans can hear it. It's a much better spectacle when it's seen _and_ heard. It would be more rewarding to the opposition fans if they could sing as loud as a mic'ed haka too... now _that_ would give some great pre-match excitement.
I refer to kapa o pango as the teabag haka. Sometimes the teabaging is because they're playing a lesser team, sometimes it's because they really mean business against a serious team. I hope they pull it out on Saturday.
As a regular NZ fan without any specialised cultural knowledge of haka protocol, I don't mind the crowd singing or whatever, or the other team staring or walking up, that's fine. I just wish they'd mic it so that the fans can hear it. It's a much better spectacle when it's seen _and_ heard. It would be more rewarding to the opposition fans if they could sing as loud as a mic'ed haka too... now _that_ would give some great pre-match excitement.
Doyler July 29, 2009 5:05 am
"First. Dont agree with crowds singing during haka. Prefer to show respectful silence as they wud a national anthem. Good 2 c d old haka again. Good win 4 boks"
What are we allowed do then? Tell us, tell the rugby world what we're allowed to do when the ABs are dancing around?
In fairness, you, the ABs, the IRB and anyone else in the world has no right to tell fans and opposition what they can or cannot do when the haka is on. It's not NZs national anthem, people have the right to disregard and ignore it completely. Oh and I'm sure you won't bother telling me that teams ignore it at their peril, not with this seasons bunch of ABs:))
What are we allowed do then? Tell us, tell the rugby world what we're allowed to do when the ABs are dancing around?
In fairness, you, the ABs, the IRB and anyone else in the world has no right to tell fans and opposition what they can or cannot do when the haka is on. It's not NZs national anthem, people have the right to disregard and ignore it completely. Oh and I'm sure you won't bother telling me that teams ignore it at their peril, not with this seasons bunch of ABs:))
jon July 29, 2009 5:17 am
Whinge whinge whinge.
Do whatever you want to the haka, have whatever opinion you want.
Don't then complain when the kiwis express their opinion.
Do whatever you want to the haka, have whatever opinion you want.
Don't then complain when the kiwis express their opinion.
goodNumber10 July 29, 2009 5:21 am
I'm starting to find the Haka quite boring, it's so over staged now and just holds up the start of the game.
I think it should be done BEFORE the national Anthems.
I understand it's NZ tradition but i literally go and make a sandwich anda cup of tea whilst it's all going on it just bores me to tears as no one is allowed to respond to it and it just takes all the passion and intensity away form the Anthems and gives NZ the momentum.
so before the anthems si better as then both teams get the chance to calm and pysch up with their anthems.
Having said that I've had the privilege of seeing it before a game and it is absolutely intense for the guys doing it.
I think it should be done BEFORE the national Anthems.
I understand it's NZ tradition but i literally go and make a sandwich anda cup of tea whilst it's all going on it just bores me to tears as no one is allowed to respond to it and it just takes all the passion and intensity away form the Anthems and gives NZ the momentum.
so before the anthems si better as then both teams get the chance to calm and pysch up with their anthems.
Having said that I've had the privilege of seeing it before a game and it is absolutely intense for the guys doing it.
bill July 29, 2009 6:08 am
It's great.
An awesome tradition.
If we got rid of it, it would be very sorely missed. It just needs to be left alone.
An awesome tradition.
If we got rid of it, it would be very sorely missed. It just needs to be left alone.
gobokka July 29, 2009 7:20 am
jeeeze, why do people always have to whinge and complain and make a fuss about this shit? NZ like doing thier haka, thier fans love it, it shows the intensity of the match, sets the atmosphere with the boks or wallabies or whoever staring back at them when they are doing it.
Last year the atmosphere was electric when wales held thier ground! ABs grandslam tour brought out all the uk media whinging about the haka! Why? who gives a shit, let them do it if they want.
Also unfortunatley when there are these shity coments about it there are a large number of bok supporters involved all the time. I love the springboks but some NOT ALL of thier fans are just plain ignorant to rugby talent and sportsmanship.
Last year the atmosphere was electric when wales held thier ground! ABs grandslam tour brought out all the uk media whinging about the haka! Why? who gives a shit, let them do it if they want.
Also unfortunatley when there are these shity coments about it there are a large number of bok supporters involved all the time. I love the springboks but some NOT ALL of thier fans are just plain ignorant to rugby talent and sportsmanship.
FrankyH July 29, 2009 7:54 am
I love it. If you dont - dont watch it. Get yourself a sandwich and a cup of tea like goodnumber10 does.
It's an extreme psych up, for both teams. If you dont realise that, then you're extremely ignorant. The boks love facing it, stating that it's a huge honour and that it pumps them up just as much.
I cant see why some people moan about it.
It's an extreme psych up, for both teams. If you dont realise that, then you're extremely ignorant. The boks love facing it, stating that it's a huge honour and that it pumps them up just as much.
I cant see why some people moan about it.
Herbie July 29, 2009 11:16 am
The Haka is a (war) dance and not a national anthem, so the crowd can do whatever to cheer for their home team! As for the team facing it, I don't think there's a proven tactic but do whatever you like.
Can somebody maybe start a website www.howtodealwiththehaka.com or maybe the AB's should hand out a brochure before the game explaining what to do with Haka.
Can somebody maybe start a website www.howtodealwiththehaka.com or maybe the AB's should hand out a brochure before the game explaining what to do with Haka.
Jacques July 29, 2009 2:50 pm
As far as I'm concerned they can do their Hokey Cokey Macarena all they like. I quite enjoy it, just as I enjoy the Welsh choirs singing Bread of Heaven before games. However I'm not convinced about the bloke with the corks hanging from his hat strumming out Waltzing Mathilda.
Anonymous July 29, 2009 11:58 pm
Leave the crowd alone, it's as much of the game as the haka...if they want to sing, they will sing! DEAL WITH IT!!!
Anonymous July 29, 2009 11:59 pm
Botha doesn't have to count to 3, cause he will knock you out before he even gets to 1!!!HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA!!!
Anonymous July 30, 2009 12:04 am
Sing, sing sing!!!!! I believe that they shouldn't do the haka if they don't want a reaction - DONT DO IT!!!!
Anonymous July 30, 2009 12:06 am
The AB's looked beat already, even when doing the haka - wasn't the best one I have seen them do in a while - they must have known the BOKS were gana win!!!
Anonymous July 30, 2009 12:06 am
JETLAG - that is the reason for the lackluster haka...
Chaosphere July 30, 2009 9:12 pm
I like the Haka and don't have any particular problems with the All Blacks, although I did enjoy France beating them in the World Cup.
But to me, this Haka doesn't look determined, it looks nervous and tense.
But to me, this Haka doesn't look determined, it looks nervous and tense.
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