Massive try saving hit by Israel No.8


Tony Buckley's big handoff on Simon Shaw


Random great tries from 2008


Japanese swallow dive try blooper


Visser penalised for preventing lineout


Buck Shelford tribute


Malakai Fekitoa smashes Conrad Smith


Henry Tuilagi swats Zee Ngwenya away


Matt Toomua Falcon vs the All Blacks

Saturday, August 22, 2009

The All Blacks beat the Wallabies to retain the Bledisloe Cup

The All Blacks beat the Wallabies to retain the Bledisloe Cup

Dan Carter kicked a late penalty to take New Zealand into the lead and secure their 19-18 Tri Nations win over Australia in Sydney, retaining the Bledisloe Cup.

Trailing 12-3 at half time, the All Blacks came back to score the only try of a fiercely contested match, keeping their hopes alive of contesting the Tri Nations, but effectively destroying the Wallabies hopes for this years tournament.

Maa Nonu scored for the ABs 16 minutes from the end as they came back strongly in the second half, dominating territory and possession, with two tries being disallowed.

Dan Carter was, as expected, vital to the All Blacks as he proved the difference with his calming influence and quality goal kicking.
He is now just 12 points away from Andrew Mehrtens Tri Nations points scoring record of 338.

Australian flyhalf Matt Giteau kicked all of their points, with six penalties from six attempts, but they struggled to create a try to keep them ahead.

All Blacks coach Graham Henry was proud of his players after the tight and tense win.

"I was just very proud of the character shown by the players tonight," Henry told a press conference.

"It was just mental toughness, because we didn't get the roll of the dice.

"The Australians are a very good side and they really stretched us tonight and there was just a feeling of pride after the game for what the guys achieved.

"Our guys showed a huge amount of intestinal fortitude. It just shows the guys have got the guts to hang in and keep going."

"You've just got to keep believing," All Blacks captain Richie McCaw said.

"That was a hell of a test match, we really had to dig deep for that. There were times at the end when we let them back in but that's what test rugby is all about."

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Minh August 22, 2009 2:51 pm

What a match, good offense and defense by both sides. What a way to welcome Daniel Carter back, All Blacks deserved that victory.
Go All Blacks!!!

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Minh August 22, 2009 2:51 pm

What a match, good offense and defense by both sides. What a way to welcome Daniel Carter back, All Blacks deserved that victory.
Go All Blacks!!!

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creggs08 August 22, 2009 3:04 pm

the australians would of won if they had ever heard or a drop goal!! spent the last 5 mins in the ABs 22 and didnt even think of just dropping it and winning the match!! poor decision making!!

but credit were it is owed and the ABs deserve it!! they cam eback very well in the 2nd half to win the match!!

good to see carter back!! missed some sitters though but id say hes already out practeing them!!

good luck to him!!

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creggs08 August 22, 2009 3:04 pm

the australians would of won if they had ever heard or a drop goal!! spent the last 5 mins in the ABs 22 and didnt even think of just dropping it and winning the match!! poor decision making!!

but credit were it is owed and the ABs deserve it!! they cam eback very well in the 2nd half to win the match!!

good to see carter back!! missed some sitters though but id say hes already out practeing them!!

good luck to him!!

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poopaul August 22, 2009 3:31 pm

Wow what a game, congrats all blacks and wallabies well done good effort!! sadly i think joe rockockoco has had his last last of last chances, im a big fan of his but he just not hitting his stride these days, sivivatu is all over the place, hope luke is ok i think his combination with carter is going to be good.

The big question is CAN THE ALL BLACKS CATCH THE SPRINGBOKS NOW!!!!?

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poopaul August 22, 2009 3:31 pm

Wow what a game, congrats all blacks and wallabies well done good effort!! sadly i think joe rockockoco has had his last last of last chances, im a big fan of his but he just not hitting his stride these days, sivivatu is all over the place, hope luke is ok i think his combination with carter is going to be good.

The big question is CAN THE ALL BLACKS CATCH THE SPRINGBOKS NOW!!!!?

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poopaul August 22, 2009 6:45 pm

oh ya guys can anyone shed some light on the haka for me? It was led by richie today and i though you had to be of maori decendence or blood or whatever to lead it? Is that true or was the fact he led it a show of respect for richie as captain? Or whats the deal? Anyone?

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poopaul August 22, 2009 6:45 pm

oh ya guys can anyone shed some light on the haka for me? It was led by richie today and i though you had to be of maori decendence or blood or whatever to lead it? Is that true or was the fact he led it a show of respect for richie as captain? Or whats the deal? Anyone?

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Anonymous August 22, 2009 7:22 pm

i cant believe it.

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Anonymous August 22, 2009 7:22 pm

i cant believe it.

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Anonymous August 22, 2009 7:35 pm

Not to turn this into a haka discussion, in my opinion the AB haka has very little to do with blood. It's about entertainment.

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Anonymous August 22, 2009 7:35 pm

Not to turn this into a haka discussion, in my opinion the AB haka has very little to do with blood. It's about entertainment.

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Huh!! the 3rd August 22, 2009 7:51 pm

They couldn't drop a goal coz Giteau had to go into rucks (3 at least) to prevent turnovers. 1 good position was ruined when the prop, playing scrum half, rushed his pass to Gits, all he had to do was wait a sec and Giteau was in place. Just bad organisation from the forwards. Like headless chickens.

Although I was backing Aus, I think ABs winning was better for the competition as they can possibly catch SA. As long as Aus beat them twice that is. Stirlo was a huge loss. Carter looked good overall without having to do much.

So far though, I recall SANZAR fans slamming the 6N for its lack of entertainment, yet we had to wait until the 5th game for a decent match, yet still only 1 try (I know tries aren't everything and don't necessarily make a great game, so please don't accuse me, I am a Munsterman after all. We only started scoring tries recently).
More to do with SA's strategy I guess than anything.

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Huh!! the 3rd August 22, 2009 7:51 pm

They couldn't drop a goal coz Giteau had to go into rucks (3 at least) to prevent turnovers. 1 good position was ruined when the prop, playing scrum half, rushed his pass to Gits, all he had to do was wait a sec and Giteau was in place. Just bad organisation from the forwards. Like headless chickens.

Although I was backing Aus, I think ABs winning was better for the competition as they can possibly catch SA. As long as Aus beat them twice that is. Stirlo was a huge loss. Carter looked good overall without having to do much.

So far though, I recall SANZAR fans slamming the 6N for its lack of entertainment, yet we had to wait until the 5th game for a decent match, yet still only 1 try (I know tries aren't everything and don't necessarily make a great game, so please don't accuse me, I am a Munsterman after all. We only started scoring tries recently).
More to do with SA's strategy I guess than anything.

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goodNumber10 August 22, 2009 8:07 pm

didn't really enjoy this game.

Lot's of passion but I'm sorry some of the handling was very pedestrian for this level, and the young Australian backs went for the chip through on too many occasions.

Having said that great break and pass by sivatu.

Also I have to say the Australian commentators were absolutely dismal, they have no clue about the rules and are so biased.

Love em or hate them at least Barnes and co are pretty even in their comments on all play.

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goodNumber10 August 22, 2009 8:07 pm

didn't really enjoy this game.

Lot's of passion but I'm sorry some of the handling was very pedestrian for this level, and the young Australian backs went for the chip through on too many occasions.

Having said that great break and pass by sivatu.

Also I have to say the Australian commentators were absolutely dismal, they have no clue about the rules and are so biased.

Love em or hate them at least Barnes and co are pretty even in their comments on all play.

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Anonymous August 22, 2009 10:03 pm

Pissed off that the ABs won. Though really if they had their act together they would have scored alot more. Pissed off with the Wallabies for letting another game slip through their fingers.

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Anonymous August 22, 2009 10:03 pm

Pissed off that the ABs won. Though really if they had their act together they would have scored alot more. Pissed off with the Wallabies for letting another game slip through their fingers.

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Thabo August 22, 2009 11:53 pm

I really think this game was boooring. People accuse SA of playing a boring style of rugby but at least it isn't littered with grade school handling errors. Except for the last 30 mins it was passionless. When the boks play its electric!

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Thabo August 22, 2009 11:53 pm

I really think this game was boooring. People accuse SA of playing a boring style of rugby but at least it isn't littered with grade school handling errors. Except for the last 30 mins it was passionless. When the boks play its electric!

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Swampy August 23, 2009 12:19 am

Wat a crap tri nations!!
there has not been one four try bonus point! Everyone says that northern hemisphere rugby is dull but england scored more tries against france in this years six nations than australia and nz put together have scored in the entire tri nations !!! six nations kicks the tri nations pratentious arse!

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Swampy August 23, 2009 12:19 am

Wat a crap tri nations!!
there has not been one four try bonus point! Everyone says that northern hemisphere rugby is dull but england scored more tries against france in this years six nations than australia and nz put together have scored in the entire tri nations !!! six nations kicks the tri nations pratentious arse!

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gregnz August 23, 2009 12:23 am

lack of tries is disappointing i must say

where are the highlights already?

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gregnz August 23, 2009 12:23 am

lack of tries is disappointing i must say

where are the highlights already?

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Wakarua August 23, 2009 1:01 am

Maybe its because Southern teams have good defense while in the North, they have good attack but shit defense.

This game had mean defense!See how many players had blood all over em..


I would still watch tri nations
(The top 3 teams in the world since agees ago)over 6N anyday
(teams that are: 4,5,7,8,10 and 12 respectively)


Then again, I am from New Zealand

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Wakarua August 23, 2009 1:01 am

Maybe its because Southern teams have good defense while in the North, they have good attack but shit defense.

This game had mean defense!See how many players had blood all over em..


I would still watch tri nations
(The top 3 teams in the world since agees ago)over 6N anyday
(teams that are: 4,5,7,8,10 and 12 respectively)


Then again, I am from New Zealand

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jack August 23, 2009 1:12 am

Great game, best atmosphere at anz since the world cup in 03

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jack August 23, 2009 1:12 am

Great game, best atmosphere at anz since the world cup in 03

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Anonymous August 23, 2009 2:06 am

If the Springboks were the Wallabies, they'd have closed this game out and won, really... it was two teams desperate for a win, due to the Boks humbling both of them.

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Anonymous August 23, 2009 2:06 am

If the Springboks were the Wallabies, they'd have closed this game out and won, really... it was two teams desperate for a win, due to the Boks humbling both of them.

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Anonymous August 23, 2009 2:32 am

re my above comment. Yeah im a douche

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Anonymous August 23, 2009 2:32 am

re my above comment. Yeah im a douche

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Anonymous August 23, 2009 2:39 am

Tana Umaga led the New Zealand haka mate.. and hez not of maori descent.. hez samoan thats to answer your question about RIchi McCaw leading the haka.

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Anonymous August 23, 2009 2:39 am

Tana Umaga led the New Zealand haka mate.. and hez not of maori descent.. hez samoan thats to answer your question about RIchi McCaw leading the haka.

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Elliot August 23, 2009 3:10 am

Now if only Ali Williams can get back into it and lead the haka himself. Haha, I might die laughing at that sight.

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Elliot August 23, 2009 3:10 am

Now if only Ali Williams can get back into it and lead the haka himself. Haha, I might die laughing at that sight.

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Anonymous August 23, 2009 5:48 am

seriously, the South African ref was really shithouse in this game

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Anonymous August 23, 2009 5:48 am

seriously, the South African ref was really shithouse in this game

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Cheesekiwi August 23, 2009 6:32 am

Richie McCaw led the haka because there weren't any other recognisable leaders. These past matches Piri Weepu and Keven Mealamu have led the haka but they both have injuries. Richie has already led the haka before in France in 2007(not at the WC though) and thus is an obvious choice to lead it again.

As for the slamming on the Tri-Nations because of the few tries scored, it's because the defences are way better than the 6N defences and tries are harder to come by, which makes them only more spectacular to me.

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Cheesekiwi August 23, 2009 6:32 am

Richie McCaw led the haka because there weren't any other recognisable leaders. These past matches Piri Weepu and Keven Mealamu have led the haka but they both have injuries. Richie has already led the haka before in France in 2007(not at the WC though) and thus is an obvious choice to lead it again.

As for the slamming on the Tri-Nations because of the few tries scored, it's because the defences are way better than the 6N defences and tries are harder to come by, which makes them only more spectacular to me.

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Dave August 23, 2009 6:33 am

Some of you (clearly Brits/Irish) are quite hilarious. You moaned about all the tries in the S14, citing bad defence as the reason.

NOW, when the Tri Nations has extremely tight defence and rock solid tackling, you moan about it being boring because there's a lack of tries.

How dumb is that?? lol pathetic really.

I thought this particular game wasn't brilliant though, but an exciting ending nevertheless. Class shown by Sivivatu for that try.

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Dave August 23, 2009 6:33 am

Some of you (clearly Brits/Irish) are quite hilarious. You moaned about all the tries in the S14, citing bad defence as the reason.

NOW, when the Tri Nations has extremely tight defence and rock solid tackling, you moan about it being boring because there's a lack of tries.

How dumb is that?? lol pathetic really.

I thought this particular game wasn't brilliant though, but an exciting ending nevertheless. Class shown by Sivivatu for that try.

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Dave August 23, 2009 7:44 am

Then again.. not all Brits/Irish.. just some who find it in themselves to moan on here. No disrespect to the rest of you..

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Dave August 23, 2009 7:44 am

Then again.. not all Brits/Irish.. just some who find it in themselves to moan on here. No disrespect to the rest of you..

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goodNumber10 August 23, 2009 8:18 am

Watched it again and i don't think it's even good defence - lots of blood does not mean great tackling it means bad technique.

Most of the scoring opportunities, and there was plenty of them actually, were wasted because of bad attacking play. Poor passes behind the man taking the pace off the attack, or miss passes when they were not needed and a draw and pass was.

Look at the forward pass to Crter as a great example of bad attacking play. And the Aussie kicking it into touch rather then infield for the chasers etc... etc...

In fact Nonu's try came directly from very poor defence, 4 men falling off sivivatu.

The best defence I've seen in this 3n has been SA, they have been huge - but then that's been their game plan for the last 3-4 years, pressure positions big defence.

This game was just poor on execution end of.

I'm not having a go, i enjoy SH rugby as much as NH, but this year both the Super 14 and the 3N has been poor. Especially compared to the ferocity of things like the Lions tour and the Heineken cup.

It's just a bad year nothing more it will be different when they tour in the autumn.

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goodNumber10 August 23, 2009 8:18 am

Watched it again and i don't think it's even good defence - lots of blood does not mean great tackling it means bad technique.

Most of the scoring opportunities, and there was plenty of them actually, were wasted because of bad attacking play. Poor passes behind the man taking the pace off the attack, or miss passes when they were not needed and a draw and pass was.

Look at the forward pass to Crter as a great example of bad attacking play. And the Aussie kicking it into touch rather then infield for the chasers etc... etc...

In fact Nonu's try came directly from very poor defence, 4 men falling off sivivatu.

The best defence I've seen in this 3n has been SA, they have been huge - but then that's been their game plan for the last 3-4 years, pressure positions big defence.

This game was just poor on execution end of.

I'm not having a go, i enjoy SH rugby as much as NH, but this year both the Super 14 and the 3N has been poor. Especially compared to the ferocity of things like the Lions tour and the Heineken cup.

It's just a bad year nothing more it will be different when they tour in the autumn.

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Anonymous August 23, 2009 8:59 am

"Coach Graham Henry confirmed McAlister suffered a fractured cheekbone and Smith a torn hamstring"
That can't be good having the two starting centers injured for the rest of the tri-nations...
Donald 10 Carter 12 then?

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Anonymous August 23, 2009 8:59 am

"Coach Graham Henry confirmed McAlister suffered a fractured cheekbone and Smith a torn hamstring"
That can't be good having the two starting centers injured for the rest of the tri-nations...
Donald 10 Carter 12 then?

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goodNumber10 August 23, 2009 9:10 am

"Donald 10 Carter 12 then?"

not a bad option to be honest... carter is a good 12, and it'll help bring Donald on having his guiding hand outside him.

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goodNumber10 August 23, 2009 9:10 am

"Donald 10 Carter 12 then?"

not a bad option to be honest... carter is a good 12, and it'll help bring Donald on having his guiding hand outside him.

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Anonymous August 23, 2009 11:29 am

Stop slamming the 3N & the ref, it's the damn IRB we have to thank for this type of rugby - this is what their rules say...so all of you saying the 3N isn't good, you have your folks back home to thank for that!!!

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Anonymous August 23, 2009 11:29 am

Stop slamming the 3N & the ref, it's the damn IRB we have to thank for this type of rugby - this is what their rules say...so all of you saying the 3N isn't good, you have your folks back home to thank for that!!!

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Anonymous August 23, 2009 11:30 am

GO BOKKE!!!

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Anonymous August 23, 2009 11:30 am

GO BOKKE!!!

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Anonymous August 23, 2009 11:32 am

CAN'T WAIT FOR THE BOKS TO WIN THEIR NEXT HOME GAME (PERTH, HERE WE COME!!!!)

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Anonymous August 23, 2009 11:32 am

CAN'T WAIT FOR THE BOKS TO WIN THEIR NEXT HOME GAME (PERTH, HERE WE COME!!!!)

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Anonymous August 23, 2009 11:36 am

Gee, at the start of the 3N I thought OZ would be at the top of the table at this stage....hmmmm you just never know with these three bril teams...

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Anonymous August 23, 2009 11:36 am

Gee, at the start of the 3N I thought OZ would be at the top of the table at this stage....hmmmm you just never know with these three bril teams...

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Anonymous August 23, 2009 2:46 pm

Final penalty to the All Blacks was bogus. Aussie did not hold on and there was an All Black flopping on the Aussie side...the tackler I think....no 6??

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Anonymous August 23, 2009 2:46 pm

Final penalty to the All Blacks was bogus. Aussie did not hold on and there was an All Black flopping on the Aussie side...the tackler I think....no 6??

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realrugby August 23, 2009 2:48 pm

@ creggs08 - I was screaming at the Aussies to hit a drop goal during the last 5 minutes. Maybe Giteau saw Carter completely shank his attempt and decided not to. Strange that they didn't attempt one. At least line up Barnes for one, right? It sure beats a knock-on.

@ poopaul - Yes. Rokocoko's gotta be out now, doesn't he? That open field break he had in the 2nd half - The Joe Rokocoko of a few years ago would have scored that himself, but instead he throws a bad pass. Sad to see, but he's on his way down.

McAlister's 'debut' alongside Carter turned out to be a complete disaster for him. He couldn't run down the field without slamming his face into somebody. Wakarua, is that what he learned by not playing defense in the NH? Lead with your face? Him and Smith are both out for the rest of the Tri-Nations.

It'll be interesting to see Donald at 10, Carter at 12 and Nonu at 13??? If that's what they end up doing? Maybe they bring Toeava back, or somebody else at reserves, too. We'll see.

Great game.

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realrugby August 23, 2009 2:48 pm

@ creggs08 - I was screaming at the Aussies to hit a drop goal during the last 5 minutes. Maybe Giteau saw Carter completely shank his attempt and decided not to. Strange that they didn't attempt one. At least line up Barnes for one, right? It sure beats a knock-on.

@ poopaul - Yes. Rokocoko's gotta be out now, doesn't he? That open field break he had in the 2nd half - The Joe Rokocoko of a few years ago would have scored that himself, but instead he throws a bad pass. Sad to see, but he's on his way down.

McAlister's 'debut' alongside Carter turned out to be a complete disaster for him. He couldn't run down the field without slamming his face into somebody. Wakarua, is that what he learned by not playing defense in the NH? Lead with your face? Him and Smith are both out for the rest of the Tri-Nations.

It'll be interesting to see Donald at 10, Carter at 12 and Nonu at 13??? If that's what they end up doing? Maybe they bring Toeava back, or somebody else at reserves, too. We'll see.

Great game.

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Canadian Content August 23, 2009 2:53 pm

Agreed with the poor decision by the Wallabies to not set up for the droppie at the end of the match. Giteau is the only Ozzie back capable of chipping one over from inside the 22? Does anyone remember the unlikely Guscott sealing the 1997 Lions series with a short range drop goal? Oh sorry that was a NH team and obviously that comment has no legitimacy...

Even though the Lions, a NH side, are the only side to pushed the Boks and actually beaten them (a second string side for both).

Nonu has to start, McAlister is an overated pretty boy anyway.

Ok, this neautral has taken too much of your time already.

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Canadian Content August 23, 2009 2:53 pm

Agreed with the poor decision by the Wallabies to not set up for the droppie at the end of the match. Giteau is the only Ozzie back capable of chipping one over from inside the 22? Does anyone remember the unlikely Guscott sealing the 1997 Lions series with a short range drop goal? Oh sorry that was a NH team and obviously that comment has no legitimacy...

Even though the Lions, a NH side, are the only side to pushed the Boks and actually beaten them (a second string side for both).

Nonu has to start, McAlister is an overated pretty boy anyway.

Ok, this neautral has taken too much of your time already.

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Anonymous August 23, 2009 2:56 pm

I never understood why tuitavake was dropped, he's a solid player.

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Anonymous August 23, 2009 2:56 pm

I never understood why tuitavake was dropped, he's a solid player.

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Smith August 23, 2009 5:05 pm

I think Dave's got it pretty well. The S14 does have a great running game, but that's usually due to a loose defense.

So far, in the 3N, there have been multiple defenders making a tackle and making it difficult to offload. It dampens the running game, but it's also showed some great examples of rucking and counter-rucking.

The teams started to get it right when they played the quick ball out of the breakdown.

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Smith August 23, 2009 5:05 pm

I think Dave's got it pretty well. The S14 does have a great running game, but that's usually due to a loose defense.

So far, in the 3N, there have been multiple defenders making a tackle and making it difficult to offload. It dampens the running game, but it's also showed some great examples of rucking and counter-rucking.

The teams started to get it right when they played the quick ball out of the breakdown.

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Smith August 23, 2009 5:17 pm

Any reason in particular Cowan wasn't yellow carded just before half-time when he didn't roll away and purposely killed the ball meters off the tryline?

Admittedly, I only get the chance to watch NH games most of the time, but I feel like in the NH, that would've been a yellow card. Are those kinds of calls less prevalent in the SH?

As a side note, I hate seeing cards, or penalties for that matter, but this instance seemed to merit it.

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Smith August 23, 2009 5:17 pm

Any reason in particular Cowan wasn't yellow carded just before half-time when he didn't roll away and purposely killed the ball meters off the tryline?

Admittedly, I only get the chance to watch NH games most of the time, but I feel like in the NH, that would've been a yellow card. Are those kinds of calls less prevalent in the SH?

As a side note, I hate seeing cards, or penalties for that matter, but this instance seemed to merit it.

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goodNumber10 August 23, 2009 5:17 pm

"Stop slamming the 3N & the ref, it's the damn IRB we have to thank for this type of rugby - this is what their rules say...so all of you saying the 3N isn't good, you have your folks back home to thank for that!!!"

The IRB's rules say people shouldn't pass the ball to hand, and should make school boy errors?

LOL!!

I forget what a great success the SH backed ELV we're.

*thumbs up*

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goodNumber10 August 23, 2009 5:17 pm

"Stop slamming the 3N & the ref, it's the damn IRB we have to thank for this type of rugby - this is what their rules say...so all of you saying the 3N isn't good, you have your folks back home to thank for that!!!"

The IRB's rules say people shouldn't pass the ball to hand, and should make school boy errors?

LOL!!

I forget what a great success the SH backed ELV we're.

*thumbs up*

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Anonymous August 23, 2009 11:39 pm

God that haka was deadly. And it was so different to all the other hakas. And the way this Maori tradition was led by a caucasian. Wonderful all round.

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Anonymous August 23, 2009 11:39 pm

God that haka was deadly. And it was so different to all the other hakas. And the way this Maori tradition was led by a caucasian. Wonderful all round.

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Anonymous August 23, 2009 11:45 pm

thought d peno was harsh at d end i wud hav said d all black lads wer off ther feet they just piled over no attempt 2 stay on feet

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Anonymous August 23, 2009 11:45 pm

thought d peno was harsh at d end i wud hav said d all black lads wer off ther feet they just piled over no attempt 2 stay on feet

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Carl August 24, 2009 2:09 am

Anonymous above me, it's nice to see that technology has advanced us so much that now even a mentally challenged child can use the internet and comment on videos. Lovely.

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Carl August 24, 2009 2:09 am

Anonymous above me, it's nice to see that technology has advanced us so much that now even a mentally challenged child can use the internet and comment on videos. Lovely.

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Bill August 24, 2009 2:15 am

Look, whent he 6 nations is on, I don't sit around pointing out what I do and don't like about it and reltaing it to some NH/SH rivalry.
I just watch the game, and try to apreciate and judge it on what it is.
For people from the NH saying that the 3-nations is poor, the main difference between this year and last is the long arm penalties, which has slowed down the game and means less attacking rugby.
In regards to the defense, it was massive from both sides, and if you can't see that, you're blinded by your bias.
It's truly absurd when NH people say that if SH teams score tries and play attacking rugby, the defense must be terrible. When the games are tight and low scoring affairs, it must mean the attack is terrible.
We just sit in bemusment and shake our heads. I mean you guys realise we are the three best teams inr ugby right? That we really, really don't need any advice or critisism from nations well below us on the rankings?
That we just laugh at your obsession with telling us we can't tackle, right before we go out and tackle the crap out of your national teams?

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Bill August 24, 2009 2:15 am

Look, whent he 6 nations is on, I don't sit around pointing out what I do and don't like about it and reltaing it to some NH/SH rivalry.
I just watch the game, and try to apreciate and judge it on what it is.
For people from the NH saying that the 3-nations is poor, the main difference between this year and last is the long arm penalties, which has slowed down the game and means less attacking rugby.
In regards to the defense, it was massive from both sides, and if you can't see that, you're blinded by your bias.
It's truly absurd when NH people say that if SH teams score tries and play attacking rugby, the defense must be terrible. When the games are tight and low scoring affairs, it must mean the attack is terrible.
We just sit in bemusment and shake our heads. I mean you guys realise we are the three best teams inr ugby right? That we really, really don't need any advice or critisism from nations well below us on the rankings?
That we just laugh at your obsession with telling us we can't tackle, right before we go out and tackle the crap out of your national teams?

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J.P August 24, 2009 3:14 am

Ummmm....So I hear the Tri Nations is boring !!!!! What a load of TOS.Have anyone notice the big hits and intense confrontations ? Now thats Rugby.
How can you NH fans come and judge our Compo.Your performances are dreadful and rubbish.Leave the tri nations for the big boys and enjoy your mediocre teams in your mediocre compo.

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J.P August 24, 2009 3:14 am

Ummmm....So I hear the Tri Nations is boring !!!!! What a load of TOS.Have anyone notice the big hits and intense confrontations ? Now thats Rugby.
How can you NH fans come and judge our Compo.Your performances are dreadful and rubbish.Leave the tri nations for the big boys and enjoy your mediocre teams in your mediocre compo.

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Lennox August 24, 2009 3:49 am

Smith, yes there are fewer cards and penalties given in the SH generally.
Cards are not popular down here for the most part. It's not used like it is in Europe, where you'll see one every other game, if not more.
It's better that way, the ref has less say in the outcome and it's less like soccer.

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Lennox August 24, 2009 3:49 am

Smith, yes there are fewer cards and penalties given in the SH generally.
Cards are not popular down here for the most part. It's not used like it is in Europe, where you'll see one every other game, if not more.
It's better that way, the ref has less say in the outcome and it's less like soccer.

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goodNumber10 August 24, 2009 5:02 am

this is hilarious.

all the SH guys getting a semi-lob on about the NH guys, when no one sensible has ACTUALLY SAID THE NH WAS BETTER!!!!

Idiots.

People are just saying this years S14 & 3N's has been poor in comparison.

If you can't see that's true then you're more pig eyed then the guys you're accusing of being pig eyed.

So stop crying in your beer and trying to defend lackluster performances. It's a fact that NZ & Oz have hardly had seasons to remember in ether S14 or 3N's.

Get over it and be objective in your views, this game had intensity yes, but everything else was not good.

Bad attacking play & bad defence. Please stop saying because there was one or two big hits and a little claret there was "Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwesome defence", there wasn't the defences were out of alignment on many occasions and there could have been 4-5 try's if not for bad passing.

It's a shame but SA are head and shoulders above the other teams right now, and NZ and OZ are having poor seasons. But i think that's mainly down to re-building ahead of 2011, all teams go through it.

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goodNumber10 August 24, 2009 5:02 am

this is hilarious.

all the SH guys getting a semi-lob on about the NH guys, when no one sensible has ACTUALLY SAID THE NH WAS BETTER!!!!

Idiots.

People are just saying this years S14 & 3N's has been poor in comparison.

If you can't see that's true then you're more pig eyed then the guys you're accusing of being pig eyed.

So stop crying in your beer and trying to defend lackluster performances. It's a fact that NZ & Oz have hardly had seasons to remember in ether S14 or 3N's.

Get over it and be objective in your views, this game had intensity yes, but everything else was not good.

Bad attacking play & bad defence. Please stop saying because there was one or two big hits and a little claret there was "Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwesome defence", there wasn't the defences were out of alignment on many occasions and there could have been 4-5 try's if not for bad passing.

It's a shame but SA are head and shoulders above the other teams right now, and NZ and OZ are having poor seasons. But i think that's mainly down to re-building ahead of 2011, all teams go through it.

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Anonymous August 24, 2009 5:57 am

C'mon deansie. Start Alexander, Hynes and Genia. Then we'll be sweet...i hope

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Anonymous August 24, 2009 5:57 am

C'mon deansie. Start Alexander, Hynes and Genia. Then we'll be sweet...i hope

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Bill August 24, 2009 6:35 am

Number10, what a load of rubbish.
South Africa have clearly the best team in rugby at the moment.
NZ and Aus aren't at their standard currently.
But they aren't playing particularly badly.
They are struggling a bit to change back to the old stiff arm rules. The game has gone back to kick-chase-bash as the most winning tactic.
And the defence is this game was at times heroic. For you to say it was rubbish is another load of bollocks.
The All Blacks are not easy to defend to, especially not with Carter leading them around, it was amazing how Aus kept them out time and again on their own line, before finally cracking under the pressure.
Mate, keep your negative garbage to yourself.

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Bill August 24, 2009 6:35 am

Number10, what a load of rubbish.
South Africa have clearly the best team in rugby at the moment.
NZ and Aus aren't at their standard currently.
But they aren't playing particularly badly.
They are struggling a bit to change back to the old stiff arm rules. The game has gone back to kick-chase-bash as the most winning tactic.
And the defence is this game was at times heroic. For you to say it was rubbish is another load of bollocks.
The All Blacks are not easy to defend to, especially not with Carter leading them around, it was amazing how Aus kept them out time and again on their own line, before finally cracking under the pressure.
Mate, keep your negative garbage to yourself.

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Anonymous August 24, 2009 7:22 am

Compared with the first game, I'd say this time the AB's rightfully earned their win. Look how hard they worked to break that Wallaby defence.

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Anonymous August 24, 2009 7:22 am

Compared with the first game, I'd say this time the AB's rightfully earned their win. Look how hard they worked to break that Wallaby defence.

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sebastian August 24, 2009 8:20 am

cant believe the aussies couldnt win that game, maybe it is a mentality problem

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sebastian August 24, 2009 8:20 am

cant believe the aussies couldnt win that game, maybe it is a mentality problem

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Anonymous August 24, 2009 8:50 am

the game sucked, no handling skills whatsoever

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Anonymous August 24, 2009 8:50 am

the game sucked, no handling skills whatsoever

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Anonymous August 24, 2009 8:58 am

Was alright, nothing too special. I have enjoyed the Tri Nations as per usual but I hope when the Six Nations comes about Southern Hemisphere fans don't have the audacity to moan about the lack of running rugby and tries as this Tri Nations has been poor in that respect.

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Anonymous August 24, 2009 8:58 am

Was alright, nothing too special. I have enjoyed the Tri Nations as per usual but I hope when the Six Nations comes about Southern Hemisphere fans don't have the audacity to moan about the lack of running rugby and tries as this Tri Nations has been poor in that respect.

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themull August 24, 2009 9:17 am

IMO that penalty at the end was harsh and maybe should have went the other way...

Two All Blacks went off their feet and one of these was coming in from the side too....Maybe I;m wrong I wint no ref or antin but thatys how I saw it...

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themull August 24, 2009 9:17 am

IMO that penalty at the end was harsh and maybe should have went the other way...

Two All Blacks went off their feet and one of these was coming in from the side too....Maybe I;m wrong I wint no ref or antin but thatys how I saw it...

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Kenny August 24, 2009 9:42 am

Al Baxter was crap again, how is he getting into the Aussie squad, my Granny could hold a scrum better than him

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Kenny August 24, 2009 9:42 am

Al Baxter was crap again, how is he getting into the Aussie squad, my Granny could hold a scrum better than him

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Dave August 24, 2009 11:19 am

Rugby can be intense and exciting while there can still be no tries. If an intense, tight, physical match happens and no tries are scored, thats still a good rugby match to watch.
If it's slow and boring and uncreative, PLUS no tries are scored, that's crappy.

That's sometimes the difference between the tri nations and six nations though. Entertainment isnt down to tries scored, but intensity.. at times.

One thing I do know, is the Tri Nations is always intense.

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Dave August 24, 2009 11:19 am

Rugby can be intense and exciting while there can still be no tries. If an intense, tight, physical match happens and no tries are scored, thats still a good rugby match to watch.
If it's slow and boring and uncreative, PLUS no tries are scored, that's crappy.

That's sometimes the difference between the tri nations and six nations though. Entertainment isnt down to tries scored, but intensity.. at times.

One thing I do know, is the Tri Nations is always intense.

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cnutmeister August 24, 2009 12:05 pm

Dan Carter should learn to kick drop goals

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cnutmeister August 24, 2009 12:05 pm

Dan Carter should learn to kick drop goals

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pingpongjon August 24, 2009 1:32 pm

who mis going to line up in the centers now for the abs seeing as conrad is broken and so is macalister... mils to center, cory jane to fullback?

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pingpongjon August 24, 2009 1:32 pm

who mis going to line up in the centers now for the abs seeing as conrad is broken and so is macalister... mils to center, cory jane to fullback?

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Freddy August 24, 2009 1:33 pm

If that happened that would mean maybe rocockoco would survive AGAIN! how many lives does he have?

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Freddy August 24, 2009 1:33 pm

If that happened that would mean maybe rocockoco would survive AGAIN! how many lives does he have?

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Huh!! the 3rd August 24, 2009 1:38 pm

I agree cnutmeister. Carter has only 2 DGs to his name in 60 odd caps and one of those was a complete mis hit v SA in the defeat last year. He should take a lesson off the great Zinzan, at least 4 DGs in his NZ career by my count (I'm too lazy to actually check).

NZ seem to have an aversion to DGs. The second test against SA just before Half time when the hooter had sounded should have lead to one, but Donald didn't have the balls, SA went down the other side and got a penalty and went in at the break effectively 6 points better off.

It might be cheap points when your leading, but when your playing catch up against unrelenting defenses, take what you can.

At Munster v London Irish Friday night, Irish were making a comeback and a lovely snap drop from 35m brought them back to within 2 converted tries. They didn't win, but after scoring a late try gave the match a good semi-tight finale.

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Huh!! the 3rd August 24, 2009 1:38 pm

I agree cnutmeister. Carter has only 2 DGs to his name in 60 odd caps and one of those was a complete mis hit v SA in the defeat last year. He should take a lesson off the great Zinzan, at least 4 DGs in his NZ career by my count (I'm too lazy to actually check).

NZ seem to have an aversion to DGs. The second test against SA just before Half time when the hooter had sounded should have lead to one, but Donald didn't have the balls, SA went down the other side and got a penalty and went in at the break effectively 6 points better off.

It might be cheap points when your leading, but when your playing catch up against unrelenting defenses, take what you can.

At Munster v London Irish Friday night, Irish were making a comeback and a lovely snap drop from 35m brought them back to within 2 converted tries. They didn't win, but after scoring a late try gave the match a good semi-tight finale.

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goodNumber10 August 24, 2009 5:48 pm

Bill, they are not negative comments they are objective, there is a massive difference.

Besides you've basically agreed with me in your first statement, then moaned about my views in your second.

I mean it's not like I'm slagging them is it? I'm just saying on previous form they are not playing well, and this was well below what I'd expect form two class teams such as these.

but hey ho, opinions and A holes eh?

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goodNumber10 August 24, 2009 5:48 pm

Bill, they are not negative comments they are objective, there is a massive difference.

Besides you've basically agreed with me in your first statement, then moaned about my views in your second.

I mean it's not like I'm slagging them is it? I'm just saying on previous form they are not playing well, and this was well below what I'd expect form two class teams such as these.

but hey ho, opinions and A holes eh?

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Anonymous August 25, 2009 9:46 pm

To all the NH assholes:

1) SPRINGBOKS (SH)
2) ALL BLACKS (SH)
3) OZ (SH)

.....ENOUGH SAID!

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Anonymous August 25, 2009 9:46 pm

To all the NH assholes:

1) SPRINGBOKS (SH)
2) ALL BLACKS (SH)
3) OZ (SH)

.....ENOUGH SAID!

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Anonymous August 25, 2009 9:49 pm

goodnumber10, you're clearly a badnumber10....based on your comments so far, you clearly see things differntly to all of us... but hey ho - keep calling yourself 'good'....

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Anonymous August 25, 2009 9:49 pm

goodnumber10, you're clearly a badnumber10....based on your comments so far, you clearly see things differntly to all of us... but hey ho - keep calling yourself 'good'....

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Anonymous August 25, 2009 10:04 pm

Those of you moaning about wanting to see some tries....wait till the AI's the 3n teams will run you raggered!!!

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Anonymous August 25, 2009 10:04 pm

Those of you moaning about wanting to see some tries....wait till the AI's the 3n teams will run you raggered!!!

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Anonymous August 25, 2009 10:06 pm

AAARRRRGGGHHHH - I was really hoping for OZ to win this years 3N - and they have yet to win a game...

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Anonymous August 25, 2009 10:06 pm

AAARRRRGGGHHHH - I was really hoping for OZ to win this years 3N - and they have yet to win a game...

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Anonymous August 26, 2009 4:36 pm

Love seeing these teams play but, anyone else getting tired of the same old?

They've played each other so many times its obvious they know everyone too well.. as can be seen by the lower scorelines and games with largely unimaginative forward play. Great to see rugby may be in the olympics (hopes), at least we'll see fresh talent..just can't believe its that far away

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Anonymous August 26, 2009 4:36 pm

Love seeing these teams play but, anyone else getting tired of the same old?

They've played each other so many times its obvious they know everyone too well.. as can be seen by the lower scorelines and games with largely unimaginative forward play. Great to see rugby may be in the olympics (hopes), at least we'll see fresh talent..just can't believe its that far away

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Anonymous August 27, 2009 12:13 pm

Is it just me or do the all Blacks seem a bit heavy and slow?

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Anonymous August 27, 2009 12:13 pm

Is it just me or do the all Blacks seem a bit heavy and slow?

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