Henry Tuilagi strikes again - Big hit on Lionel Beauxis

First!!!!!!!
I was in the stadium, and it looked perfectly legal from where I stood.
He also made a few monster runs and always looked dangerous.
Well... violent might be a more suitable term lol

First!!!!!!!
I was in the stadium, and it looked perfectly legal from where I stood.
He also made a few monster runs and always looked dangerous.
Well... violent might be a more suitable term lol

i agree that it's a high tackle, but doesn't deserve a yellow card on my opinion. What a shame, thinking that if Tuilagi had just gone a few inches lower, it would have been a superb samoan-style crunching tackle.

i agree that it's a high tackle, but doesn't deserve a yellow card on my opinion. What a shame, thinking that if Tuilagi had just gone a few inches lower, it would have been a superb samoan-style crunching tackle.

A bit unlucky there.

It looks worse than it was because of their size difference I think.

A bit unlucky there.

It looks worse than it was because of their size difference I think.

For GOD'S SAKE. Stop penalising this man for FAIR TACKLES. I'm SICK of referees turnung our game into a peewee sport. COME OOOOOOON gimme a BREAK!!!!!!!!

For GOD'S SAKE. Stop penalising this man for FAIR TACKLES. I'm SICK of referees turnung our game into a peewee sport. COME OOOOOOON gimme a BREAK!!!!!!!!

That's high. No debate.

Yellow? Perhaps a tad harsh, didn't look malicious as there wasn't a swinging arm, but you can't really complain at the decision. High is high, you always run the risk.

That's high. No debate.

Yellow? Perhaps a tad harsh, didn't look malicious as there wasn't a swinging arm, but you can't really complain at the decision. High is high, you always run the risk.

told ya ... that's what you get in France.

Perfectly legal in Australia, NZ, England ...but in France "vi don't accept zis"
Beauxis is low on his feet while Tuilagi is still a big man...even though he's wrapping his arms.

An english ref would probably say it's legal... Morgan Para is still alive to testify :P (cf european cup last year)

told ya ... that's what you get in France.

Perfectly legal in Australia, NZ, England ...but in France "vi don't accept zis"
Beauxis is low on his feet while Tuilagi is still a big man...even though he's wrapping his arms.

An english ref would probably say it's legal... Morgan Para is still alive to testify :P (cf european cup last year)

Alright, seriously, you guys need to check the laws, there's nothing legal about this tackle at all, he wraps Beauxis' head for crying out loud. I don't think this deserved a card, as it was obviously unintentional, but certainly a telling off. This protesting against penalties due to rugby 'turning into a peewee sport' is getting really old. Laws are laws, and a high tackle is just that, no matter how tall the tackler is compared to the ball carrier. If Tuilagi doesn't want any more cards, he can start getting lower, it's not as if he's the only big man in rugby.

Alright, seriously, you guys need to check the laws, there's nothing legal about this tackle at all, he wraps Beauxis' head for crying out loud. I don't think this deserved a card, as it was obviously unintentional, but certainly a telling off. This protesting against penalties due to rugby 'turning into a peewee sport' is getting really old. Laws are laws, and a high tackle is just that, no matter how tall the tackler is compared to the ball carrier. If Tuilagi doesn't want any more cards, he can start getting lower, it's not as if he's the only big man in rugby.

I think Jay ^^ is right, the French do like to milk it after getting floored in any way which could be deemed borderline just to give them a potential advantage, be it a penalty, yellow or red card.

I think its a bit unfair to give him 10 in the bin, but I can understand why the ref did so; the tackle happened so quickly and in such close quarters. Beauxis got low and I dont think Tuilagi had the space to get as low (and I doubt he probably expected the contact to be so low).

Again, I believe the yellow was a bit harsh but, these referees dont have the advantage of watching numerous angles of the hit in slow mo before making their professional decisions.

I cant really see anybody at fault here, regardless whether Beauxis milked it a bit, I would understand any ref making the same calls under the same circumstances.

I think Jay ^^ is right, the French do like to milk it after getting floored in any way which could be deemed borderline just to give them a potential advantage, be it a penalty, yellow or red card.

I think its a bit unfair to give him 10 in the bin, but I can understand why the ref did so; the tackle happened so quickly and in such close quarters. Beauxis got low and I dont think Tuilagi had the space to get as low (and I doubt he probably expected the contact to be so low).

Again, I believe the yellow was a bit harsh but, these referees dont have the advantage of watching numerous angles of the hit in slow mo before making their professional decisions.

I cant really see anybody at fault here, regardless whether Beauxis milked it a bit, I would understand any ref making the same calls under the same circumstances.

Firstly to all those people trying to make themselves sound hard by saying the sport is turning soft etc etc. Rugby isn't a competition to be the hardest person. Do you realise how stupid you sound? Be realistic. Please.

My opinion is that it was harsh though and didn't deserve a yellow. But again he has a reputation. You don't build a reputation for no reason so you've got to take the rough with he smooth.

Firstly to all those people trying to make themselves sound hard by saying the sport is turning soft etc etc. Rugby isn't a competition to be the hardest person. Do you realise how stupid you sound? Be realistic. Please.

My opinion is that it was harsh though and didn't deserve a yellow. But again he has a reputation. You don't build a reputation for no reason so you've got to take the rough with he smooth.

i thought beauxis was milking this a bit on first watch, but the replay proved me wrong! tuilagi was very unlucky to get carded, beauxis lowered his head into the tackler's shoulder...and poor henry can't control the movement of lionel's head just like he can't control being a monster tackler.

i thought beauxis was milking this a bit on first watch, but the replay proved me wrong! tuilagi was very unlucky to get carded, beauxis lowered his head into the tackler's shoulder...and poor henry can't control the movement of lionel's head just like he can't control being a monster tackler.

It's High! I'm puzzled by the people here maintaining it's not. Do people want players to get injured?

Sure Beauxis dips a little into contact, players do, run high get smashed, but at the point of contact the tackler hits above the shoulder and his arms then wrap around the head.
A yellow is harsh as it seems Tuilagi intended to hit legally. His hit on Foden is a peach, there's no need for him to hit this high...
Responsibility has to lie with the tackler ("but he dipped" doesn't cut it) and Tuilagi has no one else to blame if this is a yellow

It's High! I'm puzzled by the people here maintaining it's not. Do people want players to get injured?

Sure Beauxis dips a little into contact, players do, run high get smashed, but at the point of contact the tackler hits above the shoulder and his arms then wrap around the head.
A yellow is harsh as it seems Tuilagi intended to hit legally. His hit on Foden is a peach, there's no need for him to hit this high...
Responsibility has to lie with the tackler ("but he dipped" doesn't cut it) and Tuilagi has no one else to blame if this is a yellow

A simple thought having played both on british fields as well as french :
Do not come in contact with the head.

In other words and no matter how low the tackled man is, there will be a penalty and sometimes a yellow as soon as as your shoulder hits the guy's face.
Example : Bergamasco last week-end (people are still yelling on how unjustified the yellow was), Para last year... and then our little guys who often get it coz of their size : Teul, Dominici, Ellisalde etc...
Burger would have gotten a penatly for his recent hit on Dupreez in France. In SA, perfectly legal...

A simple thought having played both on british fields as well as french :
Do not come in contact with the head.

In other words and no matter how low the tackled man is, there will be a penalty and sometimes a yellow as soon as as your shoulder hits the guy's face.
Example : Bergamasco last week-end (people are still yelling on how unjustified the yellow was), Para last year... and then our little guys who often get it coz of their size : Teul, Dominici, Ellisalde etc...
Burger would have gotten a penatly for his recent hit on Dupreez in France. In SA, perfectly legal...

noone can deny lionel ducked into the hit, not a yellow definately, penalty maximum i reckon.

noone can deny lionel ducked into the hit, not a yellow definately, penalty maximum i reckon.

Is it just me or does Tuilagi follow on after the tackle, trying to put his hands on Beauxis' face?

Is it just me or does Tuilagi follow on after the tackle, trying to put his hands on Beauxis' face?

It doesn't help that it was a French ref - they're not afraid to pull out a yellow and are usually quite quick to do so.

It doesn't help that it was a French ref - they're not afraid to pull out a yellow and are usually quite quick to do so.

obviously no malicious intent but was high nonetheless. i would agree with the ref whether he called it or did not call it.

obviously no malicious intent but was high nonetheless. i would agree with the ref whether he called it or did not call it.

Opinions can differ but as a rule of thumb, even if a player lowers himself, I think the referee must penalize tackles that grab the head, even if they just rattle it...

It is the tackler's responsability to get the player in a safe way, either tackling lower, or tackling sideways rather than head on...

One day we will get a big injury from a player being decapitated and we will all regret it.

To all those who want to sound manly and hard, well some basic rules of safety will allow the players we like to enjoy longer carreers...

Opinions can differ but as a rule of thumb, even if a player lowers himself, I think the referee must penalize tackles that grab the head, even if they just rattle it...

It is the tackler's responsability to get the player in a safe way, either tackling lower, or tackling sideways rather than head on...

One day we will get a big injury from a player being decapitated and we will all regret it.

To all those who want to sound manly and hard, well some basic rules of safety will allow the players we like to enjoy longer carreers...

Who was the frenc speaker ? He has an incredible accent ! Who is he ?

Who was the frenc speaker ? He has an incredible accent ! Who is he ?

Jay, you fukin racist pig, stop telling craps. This has nothing to do with the fact that it's french or whatever. It's not a legal hit cause Tuilagi's got his arm around Beauxis' head, that's all, end of the debate. And Burger's hit on Du Preez wouldn't have been penalized in France cause it's perfecty legal, he doesn't wrap DuPreez' head. Stop telling craps about the french you're an ignorant and a lier

Jay, you fukin racist pig, stop telling craps. This has nothing to do with the fact that it's french or whatever. It's not a legal hit cause Tuilagi's got his arm around Beauxis' head, that's all, end of the debate. And Burger's hit on Du Preez wouldn't have been penalized in France cause it's perfecty legal, he doesn't wrap DuPreez' head. Stop telling craps about the french you're an ignorant and a lier

The problem here is the high risk tackles, borderline illegal that tuilagi performs...

this one was definitly borderline, the ref judge it as illegal.. nothing to say about it, certainly not malicious.

for me, it was legal, unlucky for beauxis as he lowered is body and got hit.

The problem here is the high risk tackles, borderline illegal that tuilagi performs...

this one was definitly borderline, the ref judge it as illegal.. nothing to say about it, certainly not malicious.

for me, it was legal, unlucky for beauxis as he lowered is body and got hit.

It's not about whether it's legal or not. It's about a fucking idiot referee giving out an unjust yellow card.

Everyone can agree it's a penalty. But there was NOTHING malicious.

The yellow card is ridiculous, and THAT is why rugby is turning soft.

It's not about whether it's legal or not. It's about a fucking idiot referee giving out an unjust yellow card.

Everyone can agree it's a penalty. But there was NOTHING malicious.

The yellow card is ridiculous, and THAT is why rugby is turning soft.

"Everyone can agree it's a penalty. But there was NOTHING malicious. "

Sums up nicely thumbs up

"Everyone can agree it's a penalty. But there was NOTHING malicious. "

Sums up nicely thumbs up

It was not deserving of a yellow, since Beauxis ducked at the last second before the tackle, and therefore debatable whether it was a penalty or not. The thing is though, in real time, everyone just automatically assumes that Tuilagi was at fault. The commentator was saying that it was high until the replay came on. I have a bit of sympathy for the ref.

I agree with istya by the way. People like 'Alexander' who say stupid stuff like that referees are turning rugby into a peewee sport because of penalties and cards, they just sound like complete idiots. It sounds like they're trying to prove that they're so hard and strong, and that they can take care of themselves without the need for referees, but they're on an internet chat forum. Nobody cares if you're 'hard' or not.

It was not deserving of a yellow, since Beauxis ducked at the last second before the tackle, and therefore debatable whether it was a penalty or not. The thing is though, in real time, everyone just automatically assumes that Tuilagi was at fault. The commentator was saying that it was high until the replay came on. I have a bit of sympathy for the ref.

I agree with istya by the way. People like 'Alexander' who say stupid stuff like that referees are turning rugby into a peewee sport because of penalties and cards, they just sound like complete idiots. It sounds like they're trying to prove that they're so hard and strong, and that they can take care of themselves without the need for referees, but they're on an internet chat forum. Nobody cares if you're 'hard' or not.

My god, imagine getting tackled by him. I'm pretty sure i would be hospitalized for a month... at least!

My god, imagine getting tackled by him. I'm pretty sure i would be hospitalized for a month... at least!

....ok..um, i really dont get people defending this tackle (notice i didnt say anything about the player....please take note Tommo!)

I agree with a lot of people that a yellow is harsh, but this is a high tackle....if a player ducks into a tackle the referee might rule it as accidental but it is a high tackle... ABOVE THE SHOULDERS IS A HIGH TACKLE!!! that was contact with the head!!!

Anyway, we all know that referee's are different, we have all played and we have all had harsh ref's and less harsh ones, this was the ref's call....

Anyway, in reality, would you rather a lenient ref in a match? e.g. a ref that lets a lot of things go? i think not!!!

Also, Jay saying "Perfectly legal in Australia, NZ, England" .......you are wrong! If the ref is any good this tackle will result in a penalty.




so to sum up, tuilagi is cutting it fine with the two seen tackles, but these are only a few out of many regular tackles that he makes, he was unlucky to be carded for this, but it happens, and the tackle was illegal!

....ok..um, i really dont get people defending this tackle (notice i didnt say anything about the player....please take note Tommo!)

I agree with a lot of people that a yellow is harsh, but this is a high tackle....if a player ducks into a tackle the referee might rule it as accidental but it is a high tackle... ABOVE THE SHOULDERS IS A HIGH TACKLE!!! that was contact with the head!!!

Anyway, we all know that referee's are different, we have all played and we have all had harsh ref's and less harsh ones, this was the ref's call....

Anyway, in reality, would you rather a lenient ref in a match? e.g. a ref that lets a lot of things go? i think not!!!

Also, Jay saying "Perfectly legal in Australia, NZ, England" .......you are wrong! If the ref is any good this tackle will result in a penalty.




so to sum up, tuilagi is cutting it fine with the two seen tackles, but these are only a few out of many regular tackles that he makes, he was unlucky to be carded for this, but it happens, and the tackle was illegal!

"The yellow card is ridiculous, and THAT is why rugby is turning soft."

If that's your gripe, then rugby's been turning soft for quite some time.

Some yc's (and citings) are ridiculous. Some are borderline. This one isn't really. High tackles for many years already have been looked at as more serious offences. Correctly so, in my view.

This was a high tackle, and whilst we can all quibble over malice etc, the ref has one look only at the incident. The tackle was high, and when you tackle the Tuilagi does, you will pick up your share of cards, some more deserved than others. But you will get them because high tackles aren't popular. People who play the game know why.

"The yellow card is ridiculous, and THAT is why rugby is turning soft."

If that's your gripe, then rugby's been turning soft for quite some time.

Some yc's (and citings) are ridiculous. Some are borderline. This one isn't really. High tackles for many years already have been looked at as more serious offences. Correctly so, in my view.

This was a high tackle, and whilst we can all quibble over malice etc, the ref has one look only at the incident. The tackle was high, and when you tackle the Tuilagi does, you will pick up your share of cards, some more deserved than others. But you will get them because high tackles aren't popular. People who play the game know why.

It was a good hit.Sorry about the card,Beauxis did duck into it.

It was a good hit.Sorry about the card,Beauxis did duck into it.

Now that is a brick wall tackle!

Now that is a brick wall tackle!

The tackle is aimed at the chest, however Beaxis lowers his head and therefore it became unintentional high. I have to agree that there seems to be some Italian football tactics entering the game. The ref should have asked the video ref to have a look. Defenitly not a yellow...

The tackle is aimed at the chest, however Beaxis lowers his head and therefore it became unintentional high. I have to agree that there seems to be some Italian football tactics entering the game. The ref should have asked the video ref to have a look. Defenitly not a yellow...

completely agree with istya and kearney for tests.

completely agree with istya and kearney for tests.

That looks unlucky more than malicious. Penalty but no need for a yellow!

That looks unlucky more than malicious. Penalty but no need for a yellow!

Not much in that one at all.
Yellow is ridiculous.
Once again we see that the refs in the T14 are not up to scratch.
Maybe a penalty for a high tackle, though even that's debatable, as he hits him on the chest and his arms slide up, Lionel also ducks into the tackle.
Penalty (without a card) would have been fair I think.

Not much in that one at all.
Yellow is ridiculous.
Once again we see that the refs in the T14 are not up to scratch.
Maybe a penalty for a high tackle, though even that's debatable, as he hits him on the chest and his arms slide up, Lionel also ducks into the tackle.
Penalty (without a card) would have been fair I think.

what are you people on about HE DUCKED INTO THE TACKLE!!!!! Tuilagi was already commited to tackling him and if he ran and stood up str8 instead of going low he wouldnt of been hit like that how is tuilagi supposed 2 change his angle if hes alreeady commited??? hes looking dwn and then the other guy ducks into his shoulder what a joke of a dicision... nothing can stop tuilagi hahaha

what are you people on about HE DUCKED INTO THE TACKLE!!!!! Tuilagi was already commited to tackling him and if he ran and stood up str8 instead of going low he wouldnt of been hit like that how is tuilagi supposed 2 change his angle if hes alreeady commited??? hes looking dwn and then the other guy ducks into his shoulder what a joke of a dicision... nothing can stop tuilagi hahaha

anonymous above is right, he did duck in to the tackle. Soon enough players will be going into contact with their noses brushing the grass and then getting penalties for high tackles. Rugby is getting to stage where players are trying to manipulate the referees. Hope it stops soon!

anonymous above is right, he did duck in to the tackle. Soon enough players will be going into contact with their noses brushing the grass and then getting penalties for high tackles. Rugby is getting to stage where players are trying to manipulate the referees. Hope it stops soon!

If beauxis ducks what the hell is tuilagi supposed to do?
Harsh card imo

If beauxis ducks what the hell is tuilagi supposed to do?
Harsh card imo

Ha yeah I may have over-reacted there. I blame my masters course. DON'T DO A MASTERS!!!!
But I do feel the tackle was good. NOT trying to sound 'hard' (seriously, pretty stupid accusation), but to me tackles like that where all things being equal (i.e. Beauxis not ducking) woulda turned out like Banahans (which we all agreed was fair) should stand as good!!! Soooooo.........

Ha yeah I may have over-reacted there. I blame my masters course. DON'T DO A MASTERS!!!!
But I do feel the tackle was good. NOT trying to sound 'hard' (seriously, pretty stupid accusation), but to me tackles like that where all things being equal (i.e. Beauxis not ducking) woulda turned out like Banahans (which we all agreed was fair) should stand as good!!! Soooooo.........

I hope you all have your tutus sized. We are going to be wearing them sooner than expected.

I hope you all have your tutus sized. We are going to be wearing them sooner than expected.

No 7, I do notice. It's not about the individuals as such, jsut that when English players do this kind of thing, no one has a problem.
But that's neither here nor there.
Whoever it was hit it on the head when he said that this wouldn't have been a penalty in Australia or NZ.
It wouldn't have been, it would have been considered a good hit.
Maybe a penalty by a particularly pedantic ref.
Nothing more.
Cards down here are for outrageous tackles that are intended to injure or repeated infringements of the same nature to prevent a scoring opportunity for the other team.
That's about all.

No 7, I do notice. It's not about the individuals as such, jsut that when English players do this kind of thing, no one has a problem.
But that's neither here nor there.
Whoever it was hit it on the head when he said that this wouldn't have been a penalty in Australia or NZ.
It wouldn't have been, it would have been considered a good hit.
Maybe a penalty by a particularly pedantic ref.
Nothing more.
Cards down here are for outrageous tackles that are intended to injure or repeated infringements of the same nature to prevent a scoring opportunity for the other team.
That's about all.

how can u tackle a midget???

how can u tackle a midget???

It is the tackled players responsibility to tackle the player legally. It was a penalty but a yellow card is harsh, but lets remeber people, we get to see this as many times as we like from 3 angles and in slow-mo. The ref gets 1 angle at real speed. Lets be realistic.

If you want aimless charging go watch American Football

It is the tackled players responsibility to tackle the player legally. It was a penalty but a yellow card is harsh, but lets remeber people, we get to see this as many times as we like from 3 angles and in slow-mo. The ref gets 1 angle at real speed. Lets be realistic.

If you want aimless charging go watch American Football

Good tackle, but he is just so incredible big, it looks like he is doing it illegally - it is his strength. The Tuilagis are just big people!

Good tackle, but he is just so incredible big, it looks like he is doing it illegally - it is his strength. The Tuilagis are just big people!

serves him right for not running straight and hard.


panzy prancing light footer

serves him right for not running straight and hard.


panzy prancing light footer

Have to love all our hard men here. The icing on the cake has to be one of the anon above stating that soon players will be ducking on purpose to get high tackled and play the ref. It's true. Players will obviously get high-tackled purposely to get a penalty or get the opponent to the bin. Yeah right. Ever been on a rugby field before? Ever been tackled too high? Ever felt the pain? As many here I suspect, I have. As to do it on purpose: I don't think so. Idiot.
While I'm ranting, I'm French, played in France and England and now live in New Zealand. While it makes me appreciate differences between styles of play and of referring, it doesn't make me a know-it-all rugby master as some people here obviously think they are. Stop the BS with the French milking it. It would have been an illegal hit and at least a penalty anywhere. This hard-men thingy is tiresome. Sports have rules. There are many ways to slam and hurt the opponent with a perfectly legal tackle.

Back to the clip, thanks RD. As far as I'm concerned: high tackle, no need for a yellow though. Tuilagi got unlucky and unfortunately for him, his reputation preceded him. Fully agree with Flankaaa. Would be happy with whatever call the ref would have made.

Have to love all our hard men here. The icing on the cake has to be one of the anon above stating that soon players will be ducking on purpose to get high tackled and play the ref. It's true. Players will obviously get high-tackled purposely to get a penalty or get the opponent to the bin. Yeah right. Ever been on a rugby field before? Ever been tackled too high? Ever felt the pain? As many here I suspect, I have. As to do it on purpose: I don't think so. Idiot.
While I'm ranting, I'm French, played in France and England and now live in New Zealand. While it makes me appreciate differences between styles of play and of referring, it doesn't make me a know-it-all rugby master as some people here obviously think they are. Stop the BS with the French milking it. It would have been an illegal hit and at least a penalty anywhere. This hard-men thingy is tiresome. Sports have rules. There are many ways to slam and hurt the opponent with a perfectly legal tackle.

Back to the clip, thanks RD. As far as I'm concerned: high tackle, no need for a yellow though. Tuilagi got unlucky and unfortunately for him, his reputation preceded him. Fully agree with Flankaaa. Would be happy with whatever call the ref would have made.

silly running by beauxis. crap dummy, he had to have known what was waiting for him.

silly running by beauxis. crap dummy, he had to have known what was waiting for him.

"racist pig" "ignorant and a liar" si ca fait pas avancer les choses ca c'est beau ^^
Just telling my feeling about it...
Agresssivity is always easier behind a computer than on a field ^^ hit and run coward.

"racist pig" "ignorant and a liar" si ca fait pas avancer les choses ca c'est beau ^^
Just telling my feeling about it...
Agresssivity is always easier behind a computer than on a field ^^ hit and run coward.

this wasnt high at all, if u look at 1:03, tuilagi's shoulder just hits beauxis' shoulder, beauxis slips and at that camera angle you can tell that tuilagi is wrapping. his arms only hit beauxis' head the wrap wasnt tight enough...

this wasnt high at all, if u look at 1:03, tuilagi's shoulder just hits beauxis' shoulder, beauxis slips and at that camera angle you can tell that tuilagi is wrapping. his arms only hit beauxis' head the wrap wasnt tight enough...

Tommo is the hardest blogger i've ever come across.

Tommo is the hardest blogger i've ever come across.

Didn't deserve a yellow, Beauxis was very low, and Tuilagi would have hit him around the chest otherwise. Plus there was definately arms being wrapped as well.

Harsh.....for once

Didn't deserve a yellow, Beauxis was very low, and Tuilagi would have hit him around the chest otherwise. Plus there was definately arms being wrapped as well.

Harsh.....for once

....GUYS, what video are you watching? im in a hurry so i'll comment in more detail later, but it is clear in the first replay that Tuilagi's shoulder hits Lionel's head!! that is the first contact his shoulder makes?!

No malice, and not a yellow, but cards are at the refs discretion (to a point) and if he deemed it a yellow its his choice, at the end of the day it was a HIGH TACKLE which hey, if you read the rules, is ILLEGAL!....

....GUYS, what video are you watching? im in a hurry so i'll comment in more detail later, but it is clear in the first replay that Tuilagi's shoulder hits Lionel's head!! that is the first contact his shoulder makes?!

No malice, and not a yellow, but cards are at the refs discretion (to a point) and if he deemed it a yellow its his choice, at the end of the day it was a HIGH TACKLE which hey, if you read the rules, is ILLEGAL!....

time someone gets him back :D

time someone gets him back :D

Whatever, I never said I was hard, it's not about that. Obviously I'm incredibly hard. ;)
The thing is ten years ago, there's no way this would ever have been considered a yellow card offence. NO WAY.
The game has changed, and I don't think this constant yellow card thing is good for the game.
Firstly, head high tackles happen, by accident, all the time. They will always happen. Everyone has done them or been hit.
They should be penalised.
Yellow is ridiculous for a tackle like this though. Ridiculous. It was barely high, he hit him chest to chest, but he's a lot taller and the guy he's tackling ducks into the tackle. So it's marginally high. A penalty, no more. Even a penalty is maybe harsh, a lot of good refs would let this go.
But a yellow for this? Way over the top.
If it were just an isolated incident, you'd say it was the ref, but it's not, it's a trend that's creeping into the game.
Cards should be for very dangerous tackles or foul play, and mostly only for those done intentionally.
That or a team infringing repeatedly, same offense, after being warned.
Hits like this will happen, always. It's the nature of the game.
It would be a disaster if we carded everyone for accidental head highs. And this thing with shoulders, jesus, that's even worse. Just let them play.

Whatever, I never said I was hard, it's not about that. Obviously I'm incredibly hard. ;)
The thing is ten years ago, there's no way this would ever have been considered a yellow card offence. NO WAY.
The game has changed, and I don't think this constant yellow card thing is good for the game.
Firstly, head high tackles happen, by accident, all the time. They will always happen. Everyone has done them or been hit.
They should be penalised.
Yellow is ridiculous for a tackle like this though. Ridiculous. It was barely high, he hit him chest to chest, but he's a lot taller and the guy he's tackling ducks into the tackle. So it's marginally high. A penalty, no more. Even a penalty is maybe harsh, a lot of good refs would let this go.
But a yellow for this? Way over the top.
If it were just an isolated incident, you'd say it was the ref, but it's not, it's a trend that's creeping into the game.
Cards should be for very dangerous tackles or foul play, and mostly only for those done intentionally.
That or a team infringing repeatedly, same offense, after being warned.
Hits like this will happen, always. It's the nature of the game.
It would be a disaster if we carded everyone for accidental head highs. And this thing with shoulders, jesus, that's even worse. Just let them play.

jay,

Being sanctimonious here is easy too.

Claiming something (as played rugby in Britain and France) here is easy too.

Putting some cheap statements based on nationality here is an old practice and really easy too.

Well, that's funny to see some chaps here love to play the internet big boys.

jay,

Being sanctimonious here is easy too.

Claiming something (as played rugby in Britain and France) here is easy too.

Putting some cheap statements based on nationality here is an old practice and really easy too.

Well, that's funny to see some chaps here love to play the internet big boys.

he shouldn't ve grabbed the head after the hit.. but no yellow

penalty was fine, more unlucky than anything else

he shouldn't ve grabbed the head after the hit.. but no yellow

penalty was fine, more unlucky than anything else

its a high tackle but as commentators say, beauxis was leaning forward and tuilahgi is a big man but it would still've been high on someone else
>penalty, no yellow card

i LOVE the pink predators thhe stade francais staff wear <3 i want them !!

its a high tackle but as commentators say, beauxis was leaning forward and tuilahgi is a big man but it would still've been high on someone else
>penalty, no yellow card

i LOVE the pink predators thhe stade francais staff wear <3 i want them !!

@Santana : I'm just debating and I'm not here to curse at anyone or anything... just giving out my opinion on things I see and things I've experienced...Being a ref within a championship has nothing to do with nationalities vut rather style and culture but not here to brag too long.

@luxi :As for the SF shoes you can get them in France for 40 euros... they had promotions a while back

@Santana : I'm just debating and I'm not here to curse at anyone or anything... just giving out my opinion on things I see and things I've experienced...Being a ref within a championship has nothing to do with nationalities vut rather style and culture but not here to brag too long.

@luxi :As for the SF shoes you can get them in France for 40 euros... they had promotions a while back

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Jay,

"told ya ... that's what you get in France. Perfectly legal in Australia, NZ, England ...but in France "vi don't accept zis""

"Burger would have gotten a penatly for his recent hit on Dupreez in France. In SA, perfectly legal..."

Would you call those sentences debating ? And answering to a useless comment full of insults is far away from debating.

About Tuilagi and Beauxis, the first hit was legal shoulder vs shoulder, but HT grabbed the head after, penalty is fair but not the yellow card.

After as show the different comments here, it's a question of interpretation of rugby rules.

Jay,

"told ya ... that's what you get in France. Perfectly legal in Australia, NZ, England ...but in France "vi don't accept zis""

"Burger would have gotten a penatly for his recent hit on Dupreez in France. In SA, perfectly legal..."

Would you call those sentences debating ? And answering to a useless comment full of insults is far away from debating.

About Tuilagi and Beauxis, the first hit was legal shoulder vs shoulder, but HT grabbed the head after, penalty is fair but not the yellow card.

After as show the different comments here, it's a question of interpretation of rugby rules.

Does anyone know were i can get the top that top that he is wearing? i cant find it anywere! thanks

Does anyone know were i can get the top that top that he is wearing? i cant find it anywere! thanks

i thought the rules where if a player ducks when going into contact, then the hit is legal as the ball carrier has made the decision to duck the tackle. (and failed in this case)

i thought the rules where if a player ducks when going into contact, then the hit is legal as the ball carrier has made the decision to duck the tackle. (and failed in this case)

As the Great Tana Umaga said"This is not tiddlywinks".

As the Great Tana Umaga said"This is not tiddlywinks".

I dont understand....how can people say this tackle would be legal in Australia etc....was this not a high tackle? is a high tackle not illegal? aren't referee's put in place so that the rules are followed? therefore doesn't that say a lot for Australian and NZ etc refs?

'Yeh, stamping on someone is illegal but cos we're hard in Aus, NZ, etc the referee's let it go....'

I dont understand....how can people say this tackle would be legal in Australia etc....was this not a high tackle? is a high tackle not illegal? aren't referee's put in place so that the rules are followed? therefore doesn't that say a lot for Australian and NZ etc refs?

'Yeh, stamping on someone is illegal but cos we're hard in Aus, NZ, etc the referee's let it go....'

I guess what I was saying is that in Australia or NZ a ref would understand that this was a minor incident.
Tuilagi tried to to tackle him hard but legally, and he got him marginally high. He would usually understand that it was an accidental head high, if a head high at all, that Tuilagi slipped up and the French fella ducked into the tackle.
Quite a few refs would let it slide, others it would be a penalty, but just a penalty, no more than that.
A yellow for this is way over the top. Massive over-reaction, and it seems to be happening more and more, particularly in the T14.

I guess what I was saying is that in Australia or NZ a ref would understand that this was a minor incident.
Tuilagi tried to to tackle him hard but legally, and he got him marginally high. He would usually understand that it was an accidental head high, if a head high at all, that Tuilagi slipped up and the French fella ducked into the tackle.
Quite a few refs would let it slide, others it would be a penalty, but just a penalty, no more than that.
A yellow for this is way over the top. Massive over-reaction, and it seems to be happening more and more, particularly in the T14.

Question:
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What if Tuilagi hadn't tried to wrap Beauxis and gotten his head because he was driving forward and Beauxis was falling?

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Illegal tackle, shoulder charge, didn't try to wrap, dangerous, the rules state.... blah blah blah.

Question:
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What if Tuilagi hadn't tried to wrap Beauxis and gotten his head because he was driving forward and Beauxis was falling?

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Illegal tackle, shoulder charge, didn't try to wrap, dangerous, the rules state.... blah blah blah.

I agree this doesnt warrant a yellow, but it warrants a penalty for the simple fact it was high (no malice but it was high!!)

I agree this doesnt warrant a yellow, but it warrants a penalty for the simple fact it was high (no malice but it was high!!)