Saturday, November 14, 2009
France beat the Springboks in Toulouse
The dire night for the Springboks started early on, with an absolutely appalling rendition of the national anthem, sung by a Paris based reggae singer who amused the crowd but angered the players.
It was clear from pretty early in the match that the Springboks struggled to cope with the dewy surface, coughing up possession more often than not. France dealt with it better, feeding off the Springbok mistakes.
The French forwards took it to the Boks up front, and not only won a few of the scrums, but seemed to get in their faces enough to throw them off their game.
"We were quite happy about it. For once, it's good to see that it's not their opponents who are bleeding, but them," said France prop Fabien Barcella.
"We felt they weren't expecting this level of combat from us. We're all very happy that we managed to take it to them.
The South Africans are very tough physically, so it's a great honour to beat this remarkable South African team," Barcella said.
"It was very hard and it was a very tough scrap. But we're not going to stop now. ... It's not because we beat the South Africans that we're going to start acting like kings."
At the break South Africa led 13-10, following an opportunistic try from John Smit after a poor lineout throw in from French hooker William Servat.
In the second half France defended well and kept their discipline, giving away only one penalty, whereas it was South Africa who seemed to blown up on a regular basis by referee Wayne Barnes.
Julien Dupuy, despite a few misses, managed to kick four penalties, along with Vincent Clerc scoring a try. Morgan Parra also slotted a kick late in the game.
The Springboks, whose handling was of a poor standard throughout the match, arent making excuses for the loss.
"The French came out firing. Their intensity was very high and they got stuck into everything," Victor Matfield said. "Yes, it was wet out there, but it was wet for both sides. They definitely didn't spill as many balls as we did, so we will have to look at ourselves."
The South African cause wasnt helped by playing the match with 14 men for 20 minutes. Ryan Kankowski and Morne Steyn were both yellow carded. Regarding the match on a whole, Steyn feels they need to make better use of possession.
"You have to use all the ball on the ground," Steyn said. "We will have to go back to the drawing board Monday and see where we can improve for the next two tests."
Time: 07:03
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Anonymous November 14, 2009 9:47 pm

Anonymous November 14, 2009 9:54 pm

Oli November 14, 2009 9:56 pm

How strong was that french front row? Barcella had one of the best games I ever witnessed from a prop. Dusautoir, Harinordoquy, Picamoles were also killers.
We should have won by 10-15 points if we hadn't missed some very easy kicks and if Kanko hadn't fouled to stop Marty's try.
I wish the boks all the best for the rest of the tour, they are still my favorite team after France!
Irish, ye be warned, some angry Afrikaners are coming!
Pitseleh November 14, 2009 9:59 pm

I really enjoyed the game and the way France chosed to play in a very physical way. Picamoles, Barcella and Dusautoir were incredible.
Anonymous November 14, 2009 10:05 pm

Hope we can turn things around before we play ( my 2nd fav team) the irish, please get someone who can sing our national anthem is all I ask!!
Benjamin November 14, 2009 10:07 pm

Anonymous November 14, 2009 10:09 pm

immense game by France, for SA Brussow was the only really good player last night.
Anonymous November 14, 2009 10:18 pm

Dusautoir
IRB players of the year ?
Anonymous November 14, 2009 10:19 pm

WELL PLAYED TO THE FRENCH.
ABOUT THE ANTHEM - we are blaming, who ever is to blame for allowing that clown to sing our national anthem, surely he must have peformed before the game and someone must have authorise it to go ahead? Almost as shocking as the boks on the night!!!
Anonymous November 14, 2009 10:21 pm

Happy Boy November 14, 2009 10:28 pm

richie November 14, 2009 10:32 pm

Hopefully we'll make it 6-1 tomorrow.
Bowie November 14, 2009 10:37 pm

Will be interesting to see how the Irish do.
Bowie (Welsh)
realrugby November 14, 2009 10:37 pm

France was awesome. Where were the Springboks? French rugby is looking pretty good. Their trip to the SH, and this beatdown of the Boks. Great work.
rodofle November 14, 2009 10:43 pm

Anonymous November 14, 2009 10:49 pm

Dave November 14, 2009 11:06 pm

Annoying to see the Boks play so poorly with a slightly wet ball. Also annoying to see them persist with a tactic that clearly just wasn't working for them.
That clown singing the anthem summed up the night. Wherever he comes from - Durban or Paris - whoever chose him to sing messed up big time. See Schalk's face? It's a bit like the All Blacks performing the Haka prematch but being told they can't open their mouths. A real let down.
For me it's hard to say if the Springboks played terribly or the French brilliantly. The first bit is true, and the French certainly didn't play brilliantly, so I dont know. Perhaps they just did a Bok on the Boks, and dominated them so well physically that the mistakes were forced.
In a tight match, there were a few key moments for me though, that ultimately changed the outcome.
1 - Kanko (normally awesome) dropping that ball straight from the restart, allowing France to get the ball, build up, then score.
2 - JP Pieterson's foolish quick lineout throw in, which led to either a try or penalty (I cant remember), but it was vital at the time.
These little things can be the difference in tight, Test match rugby.
Congrats to the French though, great win for them. Not a big deal for me as a SA fan - it was bound to happen. Annoying yes, but only one way you can go when you're at the top. So no trainsmash, despite all the fuss that will ensue.
Long comment.. oh well. Once again - congrats and I'm happy for France, and for world rugby. Unfortunately nobody likes a Schumacher or an Armstrong..
La Pouille November 14, 2009 11:30 pm

Jacques November 14, 2009 11:40 pm

Anonymous November 14, 2009 11:40 pm

The Boks weren't doing their up and under tactic with good chase, they were just doing awful long kicks that stayed in play.
themull November 14, 2009 11:42 pm

French physically out matched the Boks in both the tight and the loose encounters and that is what won them the game...They simply wore the Boks out with their massive hits and constant struggling at ruck time....
Dunno whether us (Ireland) will fare as good as France in two weeks because I dont think our pack has the ability to be as physical as the French were...And plus we got Aus to contend with first..
Congrats France and unlucky SA...You's still are the best IMO and will continue their dominance probaly through 2010 too...
Joe November 14, 2009 11:42 pm

Quote at 12 and Kankowski at 8 destroyed a lot of the Boks' momentum. Johnson should have been 8 as he's actually a man and would have outmuscled the dirty French.
Vegas November 14, 2009 11:44 pm

Anonymous November 14, 2009 11:47 pm

Interesting tactics as both teams continuously kicked back and forth waiting for the other to make a mistake.
Also did Habanna kick a French player in the head while he was on the ground?
Pitseleh November 14, 2009 11:54 pm

"Bryan Habana was fortunate not to be disciplined for kicking Clerc on the ground after a penalty had been awarded for an infringement at the breakdown" (Sky Sports)
Anonymous November 15, 2009 12:02 am

But when JW pretty much out plays everyone, and someone mentions he did well you all talk him down....
flapjack November 15, 2009 12:18 am

Steyn seemed to have an off-night...never really looked comfortable and composed like he usually is. And Dupuy had a horrible start as well - his kicking at the beginning almost made Michalak look like a reliable kicker.
The Bokke seemed to give away a lot of penalties, too...dunno if it was ill-discipline, or, like some people have pointed out, just sloppy play due to the conditions. Either way, it had to have been a spirit killer...another thing, why is Habana such a hothead these days? He seems to always be looking for a confrontation after a whistle...I thought Matfield and Brussow gave pretty good performances and tried their best. Same with Smit.
It wasn't just the French forwards (Barcella, Dusautoir, et al.) that looked great, but the backs looked on fire, too. Heymans, Clerc, Medard, Traille are all very threatening runners.
Well done France!
Anonymous November 15, 2009 12:20 am

Anonymous November 15, 2009 12:25 am

Habana burnt Clerc btw.
rodofle November 15, 2009 1:02 am

Thats certainly the funniest comment i've read for a while.
creggs08 November 15, 2009 1:06 am

why is everybody slagging him off here....mabye he just had a bad night and will come out next week and destroy the opposition...
just a thought??
Anonymous November 15, 2009 2:16 am

And rodofle, no ones going to take France seriously until they start winning consistently, sorry to say.
(: November 15, 2009 2:39 am

falafel waffel November 15, 2009 3:06 am

Not really. If you've read this, they've been pretty gracious in defeat and said France deserved the win. No one has made excuses for the loss, and I'm rather impressed with everyone's comments so far. Don't try to stir the shitpot.
Anonymous November 15, 2009 3:35 am

I'm still waiting on the highlights to be uploaded onto RD.com, but just what was the anthem like and how bad was it?
The DJ November 15, 2009 3:41 am

Uneducated Shark fans.
If Pete De Villiers was smart, he'd replace "Kanko" with Ashley Johnson for the rest of the tour. That way you have a talented number 8 and Jacobs doesn't have to start.
I like the French, mostly because their fanbase can't speak English and thus don't irritate online. Same goes for the Italians and Argentines.
Anonymous November 15, 2009 3:46 am

Smit, Bismark, Beast
Matfield, Botha
Potgeiter (sp? I don't know how to spell complex dutch names), Brussow, Johnson
Du Preez, Steyn
Olivier, Fourie
Habananana, JP, Kouchena
Anonymous November 15, 2009 3:49 am

Anonymous November 15, 2009 4:22 am

zacaria November 15, 2009 4:44 am

The DJ November 15, 2009 6:28 am

"yo DJ....it is mandatory for french to learn english in primary school.
maybe the dont irritate cause there not knobs shiners"
Compared to the other top rugby nations, there are very few French fans on english/mainstream sites. The ones that do speak up usually struggle with the english language and thus appear to be simpletons. For example, no english speaking person would know what "knobs shiners" are, so wouldn't take it as an insult.
Viva la English resistance!
Anonymous November 15, 2009 6:51 am

Give Johnson a go! That guy has potential!!!
Nico November 15, 2009 7:23 am

Back to the game something really puzzled me. Seems that in addition to not being able to match the French physicality, the Boks got their tactics terribly wrong by kicking so many high-balls under fairly windy conditions. Especially since possession was mainly French. So running the ball as they did during some of the Tri-Nations games surely would have been better. Is it just me who found this approach pretty inappropriate?
The DJ November 15, 2009 7:45 am

Why on Earth would English speakers want to visit foreign sites? I could do without the exotic experience!
Topknot November 15, 2009 9:43 am

sylvain November 15, 2009 9:58 am

frenchpolak November 15, 2009 10:07 am

Et pour Nico, le nombre de fois que j'ai vu des anglais ou des anglophones traiter les francais sur ce site c'est honteux, mais ca sert a rien de rpondre. Contentons nous de se dire que les Boks ont battus littralement toutes les quipes anglophones cette anne au moins une fois.
LOVE THIS GAME November 15, 2009 10:19 am

Enough with the race wars people its ruining all these great sites.
creggs08 November 15, 2009 10:23 am

im actully a bulls fan....but thats not the point...i remember during the currie cup people kept saying kanko has talent...mabye ye should just give him another chance....mabye nerves just got to him on the night???
info November 15, 2009 10:30 am

Oli November 15, 2009 11:19 am

Habana burnt Clerc btw."
LOL and btw Clerc scored a try, habana didn't. Habana should be cited for that kick
Sea-Bass November 15, 2009 11:34 am

Oh and Habana shouldnt be cited, the Frenchman who pulled his leg should be. Clever, but very unsportsmanlike and should be given a penalty just like Kankowski got. He knew what he was doing.
Oh and please don't change the commentary to English. I dont understand jack of it, but the French commentators are always so enthusiastic!
The DJ November 15, 2009 11:45 am

"You do realize many of the sites you visit are probably "foreign", as in not hosted in your country or by people from your country (after all, that's what "foreign" means...as an English speaker, shouldn't you know that?) Dun dun dunnnnn."
Yes! A perfect example of "lost in translation" (splendid film, by the way). If you take into account the context of my "incorrect" sentence, you'll see I mean "foreign language" sites. Oh, dun dun dun, indeed!
"Et pour Nico, le nombre de fois que j'ai vu des anglais ou des anglophones traiter les francais sur ce site c'est honteux, mais ca sert a rien de hijo del puta rpondre. Contentons nous de se dire que les Boks ont battus littralement toutes les quipes anglophones cette anne au moins une fois."
Beautiful sounding language... so soft and vibrant.
Anonymous November 15, 2009 11:47 am

Springboks didn't use their tactics from the TN, no up and unders... instead pointless long kicks.
Joooza November 15, 2009 11:50 am

Anonymous November 15, 2009 12:58 pm

Anonymous November 15, 2009 1:00 pm

Anonymous November 15, 2009 1:14 pm

Maximus November 15, 2009 2:02 pm

Chris M November 15, 2009 2:10 pm

monsieur arne November 15, 2009 2:14 pm

i'm french and i'm still hesitating between shame and crying laughing...
best part form far is at 1.10, when the guy is trying to reach hight tones...
also the two guys playing some djembe that no one ear hith funny hats are good.
still pretty ambitious to mix between reagge and martial music.
it would be really embarassing if france was to blame with taking the decision to make that happen.
Alain November 15, 2009 3:41 pm

Anonymous November 15, 2009 4:01 pm

Anonymous November 15, 2009 4:53 pm

Wessel November 15, 2009 5:15 pm

Anonymous November 15, 2009 5:17 pm

Picamoles french number 8 was awesome too, Burger gets destruct by him.
Anonymous November 15, 2009 5:27 pm

Huh!! the 3rd November 15, 2009 6:34 pm

Also, Clerc scored 6 tries in '07 WC and played less games than Habana.
The reason SA didn't use 'up and unders' was because the wind was incredibly strong and swirling around.
Overall a better rugby weekend than last, this game and Ire/ Aus game were standouts. I think Brusseuw has a rival in Aus' David Pocock, what a game against Ire. Even though Ire played poorly, had Pocock not been there Ire would have won.
To 1 comment regarding Barnes reffing SA only, du Plessis could've been carded, and if Carter was suspended last week, when he didn't deserve it, so should dP. And both teams spent all game off side.
Huh!! the 3rd November 15, 2009 6:38 pm

France and Ireland are the early favourites for 6N, with Fra edging it.
Alain November 15, 2009 6:50 pm

Anonymous November 15, 2009 7:30 pm

also, baby-faced Yann David's hand-off on Burger in the buildup to the French try? That was sheer class.
I can't think of a single French player who had a poor game. Even the replacements were awesome.
As for SA though, you guys have a real gem in Brussow. That little guy's a demon.
Anonymous November 15, 2009 8:18 pm

Orange man
Jules November 15, 2009 8:18 pm

This was a titanic match which was all about physicality and whilst I'm really proud our boys fronted up (this was more impressive than Dunedin against a weak NZ side), it takes two teams to make a great test match, so well done Saffas as well.
South Africa need to vary their play more and need a plan B when things aren't going for them. The kicking game didn't work and physicality alone won't do it if the opposition match you at the breakdown. You don't want to become predictable like the worst team in the world (England).
Pitseleh November 15, 2009 8:24 pm

Orange man"
Can't you read properly ? The singer had been chosen by South African embassy. But congratulations for this hilarious excuse.
Anonymous November 15, 2009 8:57 pm

but well played to the french anyway.
BOKFAN4LIFE November 15, 2009 9:04 pm

NOT GOOD ENOUGH BOKKE, SORT IT OUT - OR DROP THEM PDIV!!!!
Anonymous November 15, 2009 9:10 pm

Well played france, you are my second fav team after the boks of course!
Anonymous November 15, 2009 9:12 pm

BringFSteynback November 15, 2009 9:24 pm

Anonymous November 15, 2009 9:45 pm

UAC November 15, 2009 9:56 pm

Anonymous November 15, 2009 10:04 pm

Kearney for tests November 15, 2009 10:35 pm

That's a bit risky from Pieterson.
HAHAHAHA November 15, 2009 10:58 pm

.....not the boks....they blame the national anthem singer!!! LMFAO!
Anonymous November 15, 2009 11:55 pm

Anonymous November 16, 2009 1:29 am

Anonymous November 16, 2009 1:30 am

Anonymous November 16, 2009 2:20 am

easiest game ever Somoa should just forfit the game my French man are too powerful
Anonymous November 16, 2009 6:01 am

Anonymous November 16, 2009 7:02 am

Anonymous November 16, 2009 10:39 am

...they beat new zealand comfortably this summer as well...
Anonymous November 16, 2009 12:04 pm

Anonymous November 16, 2009 12:29 pm

That stupid strip they have been lumbered with for the last few years just wasnt right
rodofle November 16, 2009 1:49 pm

Or this is absolute bad faith, or this is total ignorance of rugby. In the two cases you're an idiot.
jay November 16, 2009 2:16 pm

Anonymous November 16, 2009 2:57 pm

cheyanqui November 16, 2009 3:13 pm

Loved watching the Frence play. They won the point of contact when RSA had the ball. When FRA had the ball, the phase play from the forward was great to see -- offload after offload.
Has to be fun being a French forward.
Also quite humbling to see how the vaunted ZA scrum was pushed back by the French. And yes, there is yet another French Legend that goes by the name Thierry.
cheyanqui November 16, 2009 3:23 pm

Goes to show how heavily produced music is these days.
There is no hiding when singing an anthem. There is no Cher / T-Pain voice box (stolen from Peter Frampton mind you).
Goes to show how special the Frenchman was, and how "special" Jenkins used to be for Wales.
cheyanqui November 16, 2009 3:34 pm

"That hit by Chabal on Steyn is awesome!"
Funny, I was watching at home, and said how awesome Chabal is, My girlfriend said "does he DO anything?". And I said "well, he stole the last lineout from Matfield".
Not even a minute later, there was that wicked hit on Steyn.
Long live the Caveman Chabal!
Bobby Nations November 16, 2009 5:46 pm

IIRC, Chabal had a pretty good game stealing the ball at the breakdown as well. He also caused a few penalties for South African players holding on, so a very nice game on the whole. I think he might actually make it to 2011 coming off the bench if he keeps this form up. It's just a shame that he can't make it a full 60 minutes at the test level any more.
Anonymous November 16, 2009 8:00 pm

Anonymous November 16, 2009 9:47 pm

Anonymous November 16, 2009 10:38 pm

Second14 - Forward pass blue ?
S19 - Knock-on blue?
S25 - Green penalised for tackling around legs ?
S1:22 - Green tackled by bkue 5 from off-side position ?
S1:55 - Green Tackled without ball ?
S4:39 - Blue plays on ground then green same - why green yellow carded ?
S6:23 - Green loosehead scrums straight, blue loosehead turned in - penalty ?
Nathan November 17, 2009 12:30 am

"Second14 - Forward pass blue ?"
Flat pass, not forward. You may be under the impression it's forward because 9 blue gets tackled just afterward (> backward movement).
"S19 - Knock-on blue?"
Come on, being a ref, would you have seen that ? This is a mess, I'm not even sure it's a knock-on after watching it 4 times from an above POV.
"S25 - Green penalised for tackling around legs ?"
Nope, green penalised for diving. Look at the ref.
"S1:22 - Green tackled by bkue 5 from off-side position ?"
Ok right, he's off-side, you got a point there.
"S1:55 - Green Tackled without ball ?"
You call that a tackle ? And another interpretation (as biased as yours) could be that he was diving for the ball too...
"S4:39 - Blue plays on ground then green same - why green yellow carded ?"
Blue plays the ball as long as the ruck isn't formed (that is, for like 1sec). As soon as he sees he's being challenged, he stops. Green plays the ball afterward, clearly trying to get it maliciously (or dumbly). The yellow might be due to repeted offense.
"S6:23 - Green loosehead scrums straight, blue loosehead turned in - penalty ?"
I must say I'm not that aware of scrum's laws, but I can see green tighthead collapsing with the rest of his first line. Continuity of what we saw until there (french scrum destroying its counterpart).
Still I'm no specialist, so I can't judge much on this one...
Come on, this is whining and you know it.
Anonymous November 17, 2009 3:40 am

I never thought I'd see the day when a Bok scrum got so comprehensively manhandled.
Anonymous November 17, 2009 3:46 am

BOD and FDP deserve to be nominated, but the rest? Croft? Francois Steyn? Giteau? None of them have had a season that warrants being nominated for player of the year. Even McCaw had a fairly average season by his own high standards. Where's Matfield, Brussow and Jenkins? Where's Dusautoir!?!?
Nevetheless, I hope O'Driscoll wins it. He's been the world's best player this year imo.
Anonymous November 17, 2009 4:38 am

Roberts was more dangerous on the Lions tour, Elsom was better for Leinster and it's not like his preformances for Irleand this year were even as good as he's done in the past. The difference was the players around him are also of a much better standard.
Don't get me wrong he's an inspirational player, a great leader and opne of the all time great centres, but in terms of playing ability, he's not half the player he used to be.
Brussow should be player of the year if we're talking nationally, perhaps Botha (though he won't get it cuz people hate enforcers), Matfield or Du Preez.
Anonymous November 17, 2009 7:42 am

As for Roberts' impact on the Lions tour, I think it can be argued that he benefitted hugely from playing with O'Driscoll outside him. They were a fine partnership and neither outshone the other.
I think his closest rival will be Fourie du Preez, who has been consistently excellent all year and is probably the most important player in the Springbok team alongside Matfield and Botha.
Like other people have mentioned though, the omission from the list of people like Matfield, Jenkins and Dusautoir in favor of guys like Croft and Steyn is mind-boggling.
Anonymous November 17, 2009 7:46 am

Jaysus, reminds me of last year when Mike Blair got nominated.
BOKFAN4LIFE November 17, 2009 11:14 am

Anonymous November 17, 2009 3:22 pm

Anonymous November 18, 2009 12:28 am

France C team vs Somoa
easiest game ever Somoa should just forfit the game my French man are too powerful
u thought South Africa was physical wait till u get a taste of da Pacific islanders ferocious bone shattering tackles...lol BTW! its Samoa not Somoa u IDIOT! Pardon my French hehe :)















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