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Sunday, November 15, 2009

Ireland and Australia draw after dramatic late try

Ireland and Australia draw after dramatic late try

Australias hopes for a Grand Slam are over as Ireland scored a late try to take their meeting to a dramatic 20-20 draw in front of a capacity crowd at Croke Park.

It was a nail biting finish to an exciting match, as Ireland pounded away at the Wallaby line in the last few minutes. They were rewarded when Brian ODriscoll breezed through a huge gap to score a late try, which was converted by Ronan OGara.

The Wallabies scored early on through winger Drew Mitchell, then Rocky Elsom scored in the 62nd match, which looked as though it could have been the winning try.

Tommy Bowe had scored for Ireland shortly after Australia had opened up a 13-6 lead. Matt Giteau and Ronan OGara exchanged penalties before Wyclif Palu was sent off for a dangerous tackle on Rob Kearney.

The Wallabies held off Irelands late onslaught, but eventually the pressure told as the gap opened and ODriscoll did the rest.

"We felt like we left a lot of good opportunities out there, and big improvements can be made, but there were pleasing aspects from the game, ODriscoll said afterwards.

"We hung on until the death when things weren't going brilliantly for us and that is the mark of a good side. We gifted them an early try and had to battle our way back into the game.

"That was down to a bit of miscommunication between me and Ronan and it gave them a headstart.

"We had to play catch-up and that makes it difficult against a good side like Australia, he added.

Wallaby captain Rocky Elsom was disappointed to concede the late try that cost his side the shot at achieving a Grand Slam.

"If we had defended that last phase, we would have deserved to win but who would have thought, in his 100th game, Brian would come up with the goods?," asked Elsom.

"I thought we could have stopped that last play but they executed it really well."


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Anonymous November 15, 2009 8:52 pm

BOD looked like a leprechaun with his pot of gold at the end. HILARIOUS!

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WelshOsprey November 15, 2009 8:53 pm

Best game of the weekend.
Hardly a classic though.

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izzz November 15, 2009 8:58 pm

First AU try was most annoying.

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Anonymous November 15, 2009 9:06 pm

No best game was France v SA by a mile.Ireland looked very rusty especially in the scrum.Happy with the draw given the circumstances.Healy looked good besides the scrum and I thought ROG actually played well.

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Anonymous November 15, 2009 9:13 pm

Ref seemed to ping the irish alot i have to say. Australia did get away with alot especially Palu lying on the ground not rolling away it has to be said.

O Connell was absolutely immense at the lineout.

Pocock was fantastic at the breakdown.

Kearney has one HUGE boot

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number7 November 15, 2009 9:14 pm

im irish and i thought that palus tackle was a perfect and beautiful hit deserving of a pat on the back and not a yellow card

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Anonymous November 15, 2009 9:16 pm

fair play AUS ye gave us a real wake up call,I think that pocock guy is a serious talent and he fully deserved man of the match,Ireland seemed really rusty but im happy we didnt lose this game,hopefully it will wake us up before the boks arrive, by the way the crowd seemed totally dead!! were the hell was all the famous atomsphere?

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Anonymous November 15, 2009 9:26 pm

Pretty much sums it up... 6 nations champions with home ground advantage DRAWS against the wooden spoon TN team.

Wallabies dominated the whole match and should feel unlucky to not come away with the win.

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Box November 15, 2009 9:29 pm

First game back, you can't expect the best preformance really. There were chances that weren't taken so in fairness to the Irish they could have won it. Too many mistakes to really deserve to win it.

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Anonymous November 15, 2009 9:36 pm

Very disappointed that the Wallabies miss out on the grand slam. A draw is one of those strange feelings. I feel a bit numb. I'm glad they didn't lose but a bit disappointed they didn't win. I suppose the Irish feel the same way about thier team.

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Anonymous November 15, 2009 9:38 pm

i agree with number7 that was a good hit.... I am a no.9 and I get hit alot by loose forwards, being small you bounce off the big guys before they have time to wrap their arms.. the ref was whistle happy... I love the game, bring back the biff.... and I;m irish..

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Anonymous November 15, 2009 10:00 pm

Watched the game in an Irish pub in Boston. I could not believe all the whining from the people in the bar, the public at Croke, and the commentators regarding Palau's monster tackle. The commentators were even calling it high...which it was not!

It was similar to Tuilagi's on Foden in terms of massive powerful forward smashing smaller back and the inmpact bouncing him off (of course here Kearney had the ball so it was not late)...so there was no way in reality that Palau was going to wrap.

I thought the Palau hit was legal and definiely not worth a yellow card. There is no doubt that the crowd influcend the decision.

All the booing of Palau and booing Giteau is unbecoming of the great game of rugby...it is becoming more like wendy ball every day.

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mise November 15, 2009 10:04 pm

Ireland hadn't played together since match, so fair enough, they were rusty.

But the Aussie scrum dominated, and they dominated the breakdown too. Even the maul didn't rally get motoring after lineouts (lineouts were good for Ireland thou).

However the way Ireland somehow came back into the game deserves credit: considered how dominated they were in so many important areas.

I think this game will bring them on big time. Perfect prep for a possibly slightly battered SA.

Was Bowe's 2nd 'try' a try? Possibly.

Atmosphere v v dead, SA France a far more full on and intense match.

Classic moment: BOD ankle tap on a rampaging Elsom run
-'welcome back to Irish Soil Rocky - here, have a close up: kiss the hallowed turf!'

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Ireland for WC 2011 November 15, 2009 10:09 pm

it wasnt actually o'driscolls 100 test for ireland,it was his 94th and 6 lions tests.

as for the game,australia were far superior and ireland were really lucky to draw.they were dominated in the scrum and at the breakdown,i dont know how australia didnt win. however,ireland showed great heart and determination against a better sideand hopefully can build on this for the SA match

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Mikee November 15, 2009 10:09 pm

the crowd had a huge impact on the game.. everyone there should have had their name taken and never be allowed back to watch a match again! even englands fans were loud, booing or not

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Kearney for tests November 15, 2009 10:10 pm

Did anyone notice how O'Gara was responsible for both of Ausralia's tries, with his stupid pass in the second minute, and shooting out of the line leaving a massive hole for Pocock to go through and feed Elsom? And then he wasted a penalty by kicking to Bowe who was marked by two Australians. And he couldn't tackle for shit as usual.

Yet the RTE panel still said he played well, and some comments here say the same thing. It makes you wonder what he has to do before people admit that he's crap.

And Kearney was a bit useless as well. I don't why he didn't go around Palu instead of straight into him.

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Ireland for WC 2011 November 15, 2009 10:11 pm

and palu's tackle was definitely legal

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Anonymous November 15, 2009 10:26 pm

I like O' Gara, but Sexton is playing better and more consistently. He should of been no. 10 for this match I think.

ROG does come up with some amazing plays, but when you weigh them up against his defenses lapses, you really have to consider Sexton.

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No.7 November 15, 2009 10:35 pm

I do wonder about ROG, i actually missed a lot of the game but caught the last 30 mins or 20 mins i think.....but ROG didnt reall stand out much, now i'l probably be met with criticism here but im sure ROG used to play really well.....

I mean, he did play for the lions, (Southern Hemisphere fans dont comment!) and so i mean he wasnt picked because he is crap....and im sure when i watched ireland a few years ago he wasnt too bad...but now he seems so timid and worried and jittery....what happened? Most players as they get older lose flexibility, and some stamina agility etc, but they gain in awareness and jut get wise....ROG seems more or less the same as he was years ago but has lost confidence and stuff....

Good result for ireland...well not to lose anyway....

there are a lot of bitter comments out there....

"Pretty much sums it up... 6 nations champions with home ground advantage DRAWS against the wooden spoon TN team."

Yes, and France who didnt win the 6 nations, beat the World number 1, and TN winners....so what does that tell you dickhead? THINGS CHANGE!!!

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Lorcan November 15, 2009 10:40 pm

The crowd were retarded, booing Palu? Heckling Gitau? Idiots, must have been a ticket deal with the FAI from the night before and a load of soccer fans got in.
Agree that Rog is yet again to blame for some enormous 'mishaps' in the game. His pass in the first minute made me shout at the tv, his attempted cross field kick was a waste of 3 points. I really just think he's not with it anymore.
Apart from that Ireland looked shabby against a settled Aus side. Lucky not to lose, it Gitau had kicked everything we would have lost.
Good wake up call.

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Anonymous November 15, 2009 10:48 pm

i liked the cross-field kick, and i felt bowe should have done better there. i'd rather see a side trying to score tries than the old kick and clap

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Jon November 15, 2009 10:52 pm

The ref killed Australia in this one.
We were clearly the dominant side, dominated scrums, rucks, offered more on attack and were fiecer in contact.
Should have had more penalties at ruck time our way, should have had a couple more scrum penalties too.
Palu's sending off was ridiculous and disgusting. Watch Kearney's shoulder on Elsom as he scores and tell me that it's not far more of a shoulder charge than Palu's (Palu clearly wrapped his arms round, it's not his fault Kearney went flying backwards, there was nothing Palu could do - what's he supposed to do, intentionally miss the tackle cuz he's too big and strong for Kearney?).
Annoying game for an Aussie, hard to swallow.

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No.7 November 15, 2009 10:56 pm

Oh btw i meant previous lions tests.....not the most recent one....(about ROG)

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Anonymous November 15, 2009 10:59 pm

ROG's performance today and in the 2nd Lions Test is suspicious to say the least.

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Anonymous November 15, 2009 11:13 pm

Maybe he is being payed to throw the games..... :-/

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Eoghan November 15, 2009 11:16 pm

Palu's tackle - Best Hit Of The Game. Perfectly legal, 2 arms, Kearney just ran hard and fell harder.

I don't know why AAC was taken off for O'Connor, he was having a blinder, and I can't help but think that he would have been more aware of a face ball while in defence.

Same move scored both of Ireland's tries, shame.

Ioane did well against O'Driscoll, in both defence and attack - in one of his 3 runs he full on stepped the captain, leaving him looking confused.

Pocock is awesome. Kearney is a freak. Elsom's run was funny.

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Anonymous November 15, 2009 11:27 pm

When given an easy penalty in a tight test match after 35 minutes, when you are down 10-6 you take the points.

Yet, ROG tried a cross-field kick to Bowe. OK it nearly came off....but still...it was a crazy decision by ROG in a tight match. Unless it is near the end and you need a try to win.

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Anonymous November 15, 2009 11:27 pm

I was pissed off to see kearney do that shoulder charge on Elsom.....i mean, im an irish fan and all but seriously, you look at the way the Aussies stopped that irish try that was held up, they wrapped themselves round and got underneath, kearney was lazy and just went for the easy, 'into touch' option....which unfortunately you cant do to someone elsoms size!!! (not when you're kearney anyway!)

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Anonymous November 15, 2009 11:33 pm

For all Au dominance they failed to turn it in to points.They should have been able to close out the game from half time.

Ireland were very rusty and the front row lacked game time,Healy was great in the loose.But the spirit was unreal.lots of teams would have droped their heads.

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Feargal November 15, 2009 11:37 pm

That was only BODs 100th test if you include the lions. Not his 100th Irish cap

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Anonymous November 15, 2009 11:40 pm

cian healy was huge in the loose extremely quick and very powerfull looked as if he couldnt be taken down on that run

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 12:38 am

im an irish fan and that game was average at best.Both sides didnt play to their potential and the ref was way to whistle happy.Rog should be kept of the pitch at all costs...he is a liability these days.If he put as much effort into tackling players as he does mouthing off he might actually have some sort of defensive game.Palu's tackle was beautiful....no need for yellow card.Healy showed glimpses of his powerful mobility in the loose and it looks like theres plenty more where that came from.Powerhouse to say the least.Overall average game that Ireland were lucky to draw.

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Chris November 16, 2009 1:23 am

Its not BOD's 100th appearance for his country, its his 100th Test cap including the Lions (Ireland-93/Lions-7)

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 1:42 am

Rog's cross field kick was weighted perfectly, had Bowe caught it you would all be compementing the kick. Besides,it's a shame to see such criticism for a player who took a creative risk which didn't quite pull off. Do you want to see everyone playing like England, trying to grind out results???

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 1:55 am

ireland threw it away with the early intercept try, and could've won it if they had gone for goal instead of going for the big plays during penalties.

HOWEVER, good on them for trying to play flowing and running rugby, and they showed immense heart to come back and score for the tie.

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Cameron Maxted November 16, 2009 2:07 am

Mate, we BUGGERED you in all aspects of the game, besides the lineout.

If gits got his kicks over then it would have been nighty night to the champions of the lesser rugby playing nations.

we're bringing in argentina to the trinations soon... why don't you guys bring in georgia so you can have some more epic 14-10 matches!!! lol

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Monstar November 16, 2009 2:10 am

what was bods problem in the 2nd minute, sure you can blame ROG (I'm a munster lad and i'll stick by my boy) but you really should catch easy passes. did anyone notice how many breaks in the midfield the wallabies made? they were running through bods channel so i donno whats up with that.

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No.7 November 16, 2009 2:14 am

Cameron.....for someone who's team had a draw to day, i dont think you should slag off the opposition.....oh yeh, and if kearney put in a decent tackle elsom wouldnt have scored...... so Ireland would have won.....

there are a lot of what if's to rugby games.....what we saw today was, "what happened" and Aus didnt pull through.....

So 'what if' you shut your gob....

and if georgia only just lost to ire, and ire v aus was a draw....then does that not mean that the result of aus georgia would be the same....if you want to play your whole what happened previously counts.

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Cameron Maxted November 16, 2009 2:25 am

No.7, you post on here a lot mate. go get some sunshine oh wait! its not like the gold coast there is it mate? no its overcast rubbish weather lol

hey what happened to the "Bull" hayes yeah thats right BENNY ROBINSON happened to him all night long.

i think everyones forgetting the wallabies played with 14 men, which means the blokes would have been more tired than ireland was in the dying stages. i thought you were supposed to win your home games?

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Bill November 16, 2009 3:03 am

The irish got outplayed.
The ref was the only thing that kept them in the game.
Dubious yellow card, bad penalty calls, allowing the irish latitude at the ruck, not penalising them when their scrum was getting absolutley pulverised (if that had been the Aussie scrum going backwards I garuntee you we would have been penalised), and then giving a series of dodgy penalties against us in the last five-ten minutes to give Ireland their final chance.
Frustrating as hell, Cuz Australia was better in every departement except the line-outs.

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Cameron Maxted November 16, 2009 4:42 am

in 2007 the wallabies got kicked out of the 1/4 finals in the rwc. we look at that as a disaster mate. unlike the irish who would consider making the 1/4 then getting kicked out a success story. lol

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 5:39 am

Nah you're wrong there, Ireland's exit from the last world cup at group stage was considered an unacceptable failure by the Irish. You appear not to have a clue what you're talking about. If aus are so good then why didn't they put the game beyond Ireland on Sunday? It was a scattered Irish performance, rusty and error strewn. Two of the front rows were obviously lacking recent game time, the other front row was a 22 year old debutant. Its no wonder your scrum looked good.
Seriously, the lack of modesty you have following this draw is hard to understand. All your ifs and buts. "If" you were good enough you would have won. You weren't good enough. Neither were Ireland, but we have the sense to recognize that, and a draw was the best we could get.

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Cameron Maxted November 16, 2009 5:51 am

yeah the last rwc for ireland was considered a disaster, because you didnt make it into the 1/4 finals mate.

irelands goal for 2011 is to make it into the 1/4 finals and then bow out with firm dignity. i do believe ireland has never been in a semi final before.

and yeah you had home ground advtantage plus an extra man for 10 mins.

lets play on neutral ground with 15 players a side and see who wins mate.

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 6:12 am

How do you figure Irelands intention is to "bow out" of the knock out stages of the world cup? Why would that be their goal?

And in relation to your lets do 15 a side, neutral ground bull5hit, why don't we hypothesize absolute nonsense? What if Superman played for Ireland and Spiderman played for Australia and Cyberdyne Systems sent T-1000 back in time to ref the game? What if we just hypothesized random mutterings about every game?

Or how about if you were just good enough you would have won, but you weren't good enough.

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Cameron Maxted November 16, 2009 6:23 am

how about you put a name to your writings. its not hard

about their intentions, they know they arent good enough. when the heat comes on and all team are putting in 110% on the big rugby stage they crack. a 2nd string georgia team gave you so much trouble that they nearly won in the 79th minute with a drive over try.

almost everyone only recognizes a great rugby nation when they win the world cup.

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 6:26 am

Enjoy the wait for the next GS anyway.

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Cameron Maxted November 16, 2009 6:48 am

I dont care about the GS. Enjoy getting kicked out in the group stages of the 2011 RWC and NEVER winning the world cup.

for further conformation of the wallabies dominance over you just look at the games played and matches won lol.

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Cameron Maxted November 16, 2009 6:50 am

i cant imagine getting kicked out in the group stages

must have felt so worthless ;)

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 7:14 am

yeah it was really bad for my personal self esteem, I think about it a lot.

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Matt_Drinks_New November 16, 2009 7:43 am

settle petals-

you well 'ard men seem more interested in baiting each other than discussing the game.

Doing just that, as succinctly as I can, most will agree that Australia dominated the game, but lacked the composure to close it out. Ireland played poorly, but rode the crowd (who were missing for 60 mins) and their world class #13 home for a draw.

Only negative as far as I can see from a fan's perspective is that a superb front on tackle was soured by Kaplan's itchy trigger finger.

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 7:57 am

The yellow card for Palu's hit was absolute BS. If Palu had been knocked back in the collision would the ref have still given him yellow? No. Why penalise Palu for being a solid guy. On top of that hearing the crowd boo him wtf? You'd think they don't play tackle rugby in Ire.

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robert November 16, 2009 8:37 am

As a neutral I found this one slightly enjoyable and mostly frustrating. Oz should've been 20 pts up during the 2nd half when they were dominating the scrums and breakdown and looking more creative in the backs, but couldn't finish off their chances .. which is pretty much the story of most of their past season. But the Irish pressure in the last ten minutes was terrific.
I thought Kaplan was terrible in the first half, for both sides. He gave tackled players only about one millisecond to release, and at the same time he was penalising tacklers who were on their feet and legitimately snaffling the ball .. way too pedantic. This is the attitude of a referee who is just looking to find something to penalise rather than using common sense to let the play flow .. it kills the rugby stone dead. And all those people who keep chanting "if it ain't broke don't fix it" should note the number of times these arbitrary technical penalties result in game changing points on the board. So often the players and the commentators (and me) were completely mystified by the penalties.
The other blot on the modern game that was demonstrated yet again, is the ping-pong kicking "duel" .. I'm inclined to think that the IRB should get radical on this one and find a way to force teams to make more play with the ball in hand. Ironically when the best teams do run it out of defence rather than play safe, they are often well rewarded .. and isn't that the idea, to find out which is the better team?
I'll get off me soapbox now.

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Cameron Maxted November 16, 2009 8:38 am

"juast because you stupid Aus lost to the respected Ireland"

see this loser mentality? you think a draw is a win for ireland? mate... kind of pathetic

yea so anyway this is a once in a generation irish side yet they're still very average.

no one in Australia or the SH cares for the 6 nations or who wins it, you dont get our respect for beating the lesser teams up north.

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Matt_Drinks_New November 16, 2009 8:56 am

please shut up 'Cameron Maxted',

you're giving rugby loving Australians like me a bad name -
you lost us all when you brought up the WC in the comment section for a video from the end of season tour -

do us a favour and pull your NH vs SH head in - same for all the other toss-pots on this site

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No.7 November 16, 2009 9:07 am

Well, cameron, it was night time when i was replying to you....

....so you can work it out!

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Kenny November 16, 2009 9:50 am

Australia were fairl dominant throughout but yet again they have absolutely no idea how to close a game out.

How many games is it now that they have gone in at half time after dominating only to lose the lead or in this case the win in the second half.

Do all the aus players have a sick note that says "i dont have to turn up for the second half"

Pathetic....Im irish and we were there for the taking.

Saying all that Ireland finally managed to get their game in gear in the last 25 minutes and had the game gone another 5, Ireland probably would have got a peno/try as they were really battering the aussies.

Palus yellow a joke, the only yeallow that should have been was late in the game when the wallabies were constantly off side at the rolling mauls.

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Matt_Drinks_New November 16, 2009 9:56 am

@ Kenny -

I agree with you for most of that, but don't think that Ireland had their tails up in the last 20 as much as you say -

I'd go so far as to say, personally believing that this was the game's deciding play, that with 5 to go, had Giteau not fallen over the top of the ruck and been penalised, (after Australia repelled the Irish attack, forced an error, and grubbered ahead) the game may have ended quite differently.

But, as the Frogs say - c'est la vie, we got a draw, so fair result.

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kenny November 16, 2009 10:00 am

I know i know, whenver a ruck was created i just held my hands to mu face and waited for the turnover.

I hate seeing Ireland bullied around like that, and i really do hope that it is rustiness and that were not just crap.

Havoing said that a draw s a draw; kinda weird but in the end a fair result.

no grandslam for the wallabies and a good slap in the face for the rusty(i hope!!!) Irish.

It will be interesting to see how wales do against the aussies as it will be a good measuring stick for where we are at at the moment.

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Matt_Drinks_New November 16, 2009 10:07 am

on that note (the breakdown) - and it may have been said before, but I just can't be bothered scrolling upwards else i risk reading some of the IDIODIC NH vs SH comments posted here already, but how good was Pocock -

I'm a massive George Smith fan, and was happy when Pocock displaced Waugh from the team, but with a performance in the tackle/ breakdown/ with ball in hand like that from young Pocock, I find it hard for Smith to find regular starts from now on.

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SomeThingsDontChange November 16, 2009 10:14 am

palu gets a yellow for a solid fair tackle.

kearney gets nothing, not even a warning for a no-arms shoulder charge tackle on elsom as he scores his try (watch the replay).

More one-eyed, stereotypical reffing and booing from the crowd because of a solid perfectly legal tackle on "one of their own".

Maybe its time to point out every indiscretion magically seen by the refs/crowd when a Polynesian is singled out to prove how bias this game has always been in the eyes of the referees and european crowds...

Disgusting.

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Kenny November 16, 2009 10:17 am

Agreed after that peformance say goodnight to George Smith, theres just no coming back from that performance.

Pocock is more mobile, stronger and an allround better player. Actions speak louder than words and with that performace Pocock just screames Smith into international retirement.

Out with the old and in with the new.
Now if we could just do that with door mat O' Gara!!

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 10:19 am

More one-eyed, stereotypical reffing and booing from the crowd because of a solid perfectly legal tackle on "one of their own".


What did you expect the crowd to do...cheer.
Aussies are playing away from home and their all proffessionals which means you ignore and switch off the crowd.
The ref is the ref and no one has any control over that.

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 10:25 am

I know that the game was a draw and Australia were dominant for 70% of the game but the irish really did give them an awful battering at the end.

from foxsports.au titled "wallabies grandslam dream over"

"Giteau's sideline conversion gave Australia a 20-13 lead, but the Wallabies were hanging on for grim life in the desperate closing few minutes."

"Ireland never gave up trying to play rugby and keep the ball in hand and did not fold when under immense pressure, not least at the scrum and at the breakdown. But they finished the stronger side to extend their unbeaten sequence to nine. Their performance was at times patchy which is to be expected after six months apart, but they kept calm and when it mattered produced the big play. That is the hallmark of a team with considerable self-belief."

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 10:28 am

"Pretty much sums it up... 6 nations champions with home ground advantage DRAWS against the wooden spoon TN team." by anonymous

...erm france came 4th in the six nations and beat the Tri nations champions south africa. Think before you comment

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Matt_Drinks_New November 16, 2009 10:31 am

true ANONYMOUS (nice name btw)

but all sport, international or not, should be free from booing a team or player - home ground advantage or not.

while we're all aware the crowd didn't make Kaplan's (bad) decision for him, it's not kosher to boo at it - what's next - booing the kicker at a conversion - akin to the yanks booing an opponent when they're shooting free throws?

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Matt_Drinks_New November 16, 2009 10:36 am

to the 2 MORE anonymous posters above - congrats - one of you can use the internet, and one of you can join in on the meaningless half-wit fuelled NH vs SH debate.

Please post something intelligent soon, we are very much missing an 'anonymous' poster who is either intelligent or smart enough to work out how to type a nick-name.

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 10:41 am

Rugby is overrated, tennis is better

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Matt_Drinks_New November 16, 2009 10:42 am

off to 'tennisdump.com' then mate - you can be guaranteed that the general perousing public who frequent this site will not begrudge your departure.

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Kenny November 16, 2009 10:48 am

Matt that anon above is just replying to a previous comment by an Aussie fan so dont begrudge him his reply and fair is fair...it makes total sense.

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Cameron Maxted November 16, 2009 10:55 am

matt drinks you need to stop telling people what to do mate, the world doesnt begin and end with you if you didnt know. loser

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 11:03 am

This is the tennis man. Kenny thanks for your support. Cameron Maxted I agree with ya, its a forum Matt Drinks, i can say wat i fuckin like, if ya dont like it blog sumwhere else

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Matt_Drinks_New November 16, 2009 11:05 am

thank you for the reality check Cameron - I will let myself know immediately that the world does not begin and end with me.

Whilst I take that moment - I hope that you mature enough to the point where you don't seek to start a fight with every single person who disagrees with your childish 'us against them' mentality, and that once you've had a good nap, you'll join us again and realise how foolish it is continuing this NH vs SH debate, because both factions and their true fans care very much for the opposite, given that soon they will probably be their opponent in a World Cup fixture.

Good Night Cameron - your grammar and intelligence have defeated me.

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 11:08 am

Im drinking coffee at the moment

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Kenny November 16, 2009 11:14 am

i wasnt talking about you tennis boy, Matt was right about you btw.

Cameron your pathetic as well stirring up trouble i was talking about the following comment from an anonymous

"Pretty much sums it up... 6 nations champions with home ground advantage DRAWS against the wooden spoon TN team." by anonymous

...erm france came 4th in the six nations and beat the Tri nations champions south africa. Think before you comment

It was a harmless but true comment that is all

So Matt you were both right and wrong!!!

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Dave'46 November 16, 2009 11:17 am

Excellent choice sir, I may just go get myself a coffee

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Kenny November 16, 2009 11:18 am

And Cameron i have read all your previous comments and your the worst type there is.....arrogant, disrespectfull and generally repugnant.

So do us all a favour and go to youtube with all that trouble making.
This is a respectfull site not a playschool so grow up or go away.

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Matt_Drinks_New November 16, 2009 11:21 am

i saw the earlier post Kenny-

but gave it no credential.

so i'm right, AND right :)

to those above- on any given day the #10 team in the world can probably beat the #1 team - that's rugby.

that's why i'm not even bothering to consider a reply to such a garbage post as anything other than starting a flame war.

It seems you're the only intelligent one left posting here Kenny - I too have been dragged down to the level of the idiot poster, such as Mr Maxted and the various anons, and beaten about the head with their verbal incompetence - and joined in the little schoolyard stoush.

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 11:24 am

I prefer tennis man, mr. Kenny. I also think you should calm down theres a lot of people out there who just try to cause trouble, via this blog, your best bet is to ignore them as you may give yourself high blood pressure from taking things personally

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Matt_Drinks_New November 16, 2009 11:27 am

how about we resume normal transmission here -

How good was the last Irish try to BOD?

they had shown nothing all game, and then parted the red sea infront of the goal posts -

I doubt there isn't a coach in the world who is pencilling that in for his/ her team's playbook for the upcoming season.

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Cameron Maxted November 16, 2009 11:38 am

matt drinks you are such an intellectual.

lets not forget what BOD did in the 2nd minute mmm?

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Matt_Drinks_New November 16, 2009 11:48 am

what? like dropped a pass?

god forbid a player drops a pass - (like Cooper did twice in the last minute of the first half) - or misses a penality kick! (like Giteau did twice in the game). No one in world rugby EVER drops a ball!

I am intellectual enough to know that I can be an Australian fan, Cameron, without being a total prat. There is no denying the class of O'Driscoll - dropped ball or not. Just as there is no denying the fact that you sound like a pretentious schoolboy continually interrupting quality discussion of the game with mindless insults and completely unrelated wiki facts.

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 11:52 am

i liked watching the game.

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Kenny November 16, 2009 11:54 am

Matt it was a perfectly executed training ground move and whats ironic about is the amount of work the Irish had put in before that and in the end it was just a simple training ground move that broke the line.

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 11:57 am

Ireland play a boring brand of rugby.

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Kenny November 16, 2009 11:59 am

Anonymous said...
Ireland play a boring brand of rugby.

Unbeaten in 9 games as well....

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Matt_Drinks_New November 16, 2009 11:59 am

"i liked watching the game."

Agreed Anon.

let's continue talking about the game - I could have sworn that's what led me to this site in the first place.

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joydivision November 16, 2009 12:15 pm

I think a lot of people are missing something huge that took place yesterday. A rusty, below par performance from Ireland and Australia playing some of their best rugby this year. The end result a draw. In previous years Ireland wouldn't have had the self belief or the patience (they showed at the end) to stay in a game like that. The national psyche of self-doubt has lifted from this team, and this sport.

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Cameron Maxted November 16, 2009 12:17 pm

hey kenny those 9 undefeated matches mean nothing tbh. they were against poor opposition and an underperforming wallabies team with injuries. they dont count :( sorry to say

and yeah o'driscoll dropped the ball, he couldnt catch a basic pass, led to a try, real class is BOD lol

okay so you wanna talk about the game lets talk about BENNY ROBINSON scrumming, how many meters did Irelands pack go backwards, 20? lol


Matt Drinks I hope you dont become a regular here, stop telling people how to blog mate.

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Reds November 16, 2009 12:23 pm

ladies, talk about the game... nicely, or i'll take it away from you.

Get it? cause your acting like children :)

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Kenny November 16, 2009 12:25 pm

hey kenny those 9 undefeated matches mean nothing tbh. they were against poor opposition and an underperforming wallabies team with injuries. they dont count :( sorry to say

Wins against England France Wales mean nothing eh??

You werent saying that last week when Australia beat England and you started thinking you could win a grand slam.......oh wait you could only "draw" against "poor" opposition and then let in a try from a "useless" player like BOD.

Your right he isnt class, hes crap and that makes Aussie defence also crap "mate"

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Matt_Drinks_New November 16, 2009 12:26 pm

Ben Robinson being rated over BOD -
that's an all time high there Cam.

you must have been watching rugby for MANY years to have come to that opinion.

I am a regular here - have been for a long time. It's only tonight I got sick of your immature whining enough to arc up.

I'm not telling you how to blog, just not to come back. You will not be missed - And I'm sure I speak on behalf of NH and SH when I say that.

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Kenny November 16, 2009 12:29 pm

I second that one Matt

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vinniechan November 16, 2009 12:34 pm

Easily best game in November. I'd say the Aussie had the upper hand (just).
Neither side were perfect, but they played hard, came out and tried things.
Good game.

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 12:34 pm

Reds said...
"ladies, talk about the game... nicely, or i'll take it away from you.

Get it? cause your acting like children :)"

lol lol lol lol funny and true, please take this little girls bathroom tiff your having elsewhere.

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noonelikesasouraustr November 16, 2009 12:41 pm

cameron maxted...
1-you talk about ireland being satisfied with a 1/4 final exit from world cups...you were knocked out by the worst english team since now in the 2007 1/4ers.
2-...australia DIDNT WIN THE GAME! they drew with a seriously under-performing ireland 20-20
3-you only just beat the WORST english team ever by 9pts with a fortunate second half effort
4-i just LOVE the fact that our french NH brothers (who came fourth in the 6nations) have dicked on both new zealand and south africa this year and cant wait for their next meeting with australia.
ps australia smack of average and can only beat shit under-performing teams.

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Matt_Drinks_New November 16, 2009 12:41 pm

"ladies, talk about the game... nicely, or i'll take it away from you.

Get it? cause your acting like children :)"

my bad - i'll take the pointed finger for this one -

I should have remembered that quote about people dragging me down to their level and beating me with experience.

Good game btw - that was indeed all I came here to say.

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kenny November 16, 2009 12:43 pm

Agreed very enjoyable game in the end and yes the Aussies definitel had the upper hand but fair play to the Irish, a good team knows hwo to get a result even if their playing s**te

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Tanora November 16, 2009 12:49 pm

In the interest of full and frank disclosure I'll start by saying I'm an Ireland fan.

As a match it wasn't great, Friday's France SA match was way better.

I thought BOD was quiet throughout bar his tap-tackle and his finish of a rehearsed move.

ROG is getting a fair bit of stick for stuff that was at best partially his fault (BOD knocked on a pass that was fairly catchable and Tommy Bowe dropped a nicely weighted kick to the corner). He was quiet elsewhere but played well enough I thought. In fact, on further reflection I loved the cross kick at the penalty, it's good to see stuff like that tried in Autumn tests.

Tommy Bowe played well I thought, he was the spark that got lit things up for Ireland in the last 20 to 30 mintues.

Cian Healy was unreal in the loose, I can't wait until he learns to scrummage! If you can't scrummage you aint any use as a prop. I really think he's going to be world class once he gets the scrum right (straighten that spine out Cian!).

The most important point that should be made to the Ireland-bashers is that while Australia have basically been in camp full-time since before the TriNations, Ireland have had two 3-day camps and a 5-day camp since they last played together 7 months ago. The rustiness showed for the first 50 or 60 minutes but then they kicked into gear. Because of the way that NH and SH seasons run at different times of the year and with different patterns, I don't think Autumn tests are ever the truest relection of either NH or SH teams' abilities.

Anyway, that's my lot.

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Kenny November 16, 2009 12:55 pm

I couldnt have set it all better myself Tanora; fair play

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Bamberio November 16, 2009 1:23 pm

I agree with you Tanora, that's a pretty fair representation of the game.

Australia *should* have won, but they didn't which is all credit to the Irish determination. Plenty for Ireland to work on before they face Fiji but not bad for a side that's not played together for 6 months.

I too was very impressed with Cian Healy. Great news for Ireland that they've got a young player of his calibre coming through. ROG has come in for a lot of criticism recently - unfairly I think. OK so he's been a little off the boil, but I think he controlled the game well yesterday and let the Ireland back line do the talking.

Please have a look at my blog. Comments always welcome:

http://studsonthe22.blogspot.com/2009/11/three-words.html

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Herbie November 16, 2009 1:45 pm

I was at the game and have not yet seen footage of the tackle that got a yellow card. However in the stadium it did look like a high tackle and no attempt to wrap the player. Ireland gave Australia a try but Australia never gave Ireland a try. So take the gift away and its 20-13. O'Gara should have gone for the easy 3 points as we had still 9 minutes left and 1 man more. Easy choice in to make in my opinion.

And to say Ireland got cheered on by the crowd in last 20 minutes, I don't agree with it. There was no atmosphere and the crowd started cheering after Ireland started to play better rugby. In terms of backline moves, I think Ireland showed 2 good moves in the 2nd have and that's it. The fact is if Ireland would have had as many games under the belt as the ozzies have, our friend Cameron wouldn't be so cocky. I think he is so cocky at the moment as he might have expected a loss based on the results of Australia so far this year.

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Flop November 16, 2009 2:33 pm

Hven't read all of these, but spotted one giving out about ROG's pass for the intercept. I think it was a mix up across the backline: pass was good and inviting, but Wallace was slightly in the line of sight of BOD, which could have been the fault of Wallace or BOD or both! Unfortunate, but not altoghether ROG's fault I think.

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Zavala November 16, 2009 2:47 pm

Can people stop saying that "if this had happened we'd have won..." or "if Giteau had kicked with 100% accuracy Australia would have won". Reality doesn't work like that. Do people even think before they open their mouth? Put it this way. If Ronan O'Gara had kicked a nano-metre further on the kick-off then Ireland MIGHT have won 100-0. You or I have no idea what would have happened if the grass was cut in a different direction or if Rocky Elsom had eaten jelly babies for breakfast. Just, for once, use your brain when engaging afore-mentioned orifice.

As for the game, Ireland were obviously really rather lucky to come away unbeaten. An unheralded Australian scrum fairly dominated Ireland's and the backs looked as dangerous, if not more so. Palu should send a video of his tackle to the IRB along with the rulebook. It's getting silly now: a clear advantage in size and momentum in the tackle is being penalised because the referees seem uncomfortable with seeing the outcome. If you run unswervingly at the number 8, flat out from full-back, you might end up on your arse.

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felix November 16, 2009 2:48 pm

bit too much praise for BOD tap tackel here - he had to tap rocky becuase he was too slow to make a proper tackle... BOD is WELL past it - when you start getting gassed by a no.6 you need to hang up the boots.

i too thought Ire got hammered by oz everywhere except the scoreboard and the line out. ozz were especially dominant in the pack - its ages since i've seen a scrum so annihilated. trouble is the irish have no dynamic forwards just slow old lumberers - although healey looked to be a bit better than the rest.
the ref definitely kept them in it with some terrible calls - ie Palu yellow was ridiculous and then kearney not getting a yellow after the blatant shoulder charge on elsom's try.

i reckon cite kearney and is it possible to cite the ref kaplan? he was rubbish.

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No.7 November 16, 2009 2:50 pm

Gawd this is funny, people slagging off BOD....he dropped a pass and he made up with it with a match drawing try......so basically ireland didnt lose.....

Im mean yeh, god forbid a player makes a mistake....i mean who has ever played a game and not made a mistake....

i mean, if we are going to talk about mistakes what about giteau.....im pretty sure him missing kicks is a mistake!

I seriously think ireland came off better than 'grand slam' Australia. they started off poorly and ended up clawing it back, and they can build from that...

also cameron, before you call ireland bad.....if you are an Aus supporter you'll see that Aus lost the TN....so really, you trying to wind up IRE fans is a bit low, and quite sad....sour grapes

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just your regular au November 16, 2009 2:53 pm

one thing you boys must remember is rugby ain't so popular down under. its the fourth biggest sport over here and our player base is very small. we are overachievers. ireland only play rugby, they worship it, perhaps even moreso than new zealand. beating ireland, like we usually do, or even drawing with them is a great accomplishment. mate, we can beat anyone on our day and have won the big more than once.

just thought id get that off my chest. welsh, irish, english fans can have a go at aus all they want... they still wont have the beautiful beaches and great weather.

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 3:02 pm

its the fourth biggest sport over here and our player base is very small

Thats cause yous have been doing terrible all year and every one is jumping in the soccer bandwagon cause your doing ok in that thrashing bahrain and qautar.

I noticed Melbourne just got let into the super 15 as well so Rugby mustnt be that small.

In Ireland there is Gaelic and Hurling then Football Then Rugby. We have 4 teams one of which is perenially bottom of the magners league so please stop spouting bollox.

We are a much smaller nation in Rugby terms than Australia are. Dont even try that chestnut again.

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felix November 16, 2009 3:14 pm

og god, not that old '4th biggest sport in ireland' - nonsense and a shameful excuse - i have dealt with this rubbish before in a previous pst on another video.
it's the SECOND biggest sport in ireland - the commentators even mentioned that before the game on the weekend.
Aus has Aussie rules and is the worlds best rugby league team as well. seriously - this is the stupidest line of excuse making ever!!
80,000 people go to see ireland at croke park - its got a big player base and is a massive sport there. Poor pathetic, erroneous excuse.

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JoeWelsh November 16, 2009 3:21 pm

That fella talkin bout tennis has a point

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 3:25 pm

Excuse for what Felix???

Is that 80,000 fans or players watching in Croke Park???

Kidney even said it, were a small nation who manages to punch way over are weight.

Are the All Ireland games never packed???

Every time Felix.

Rugby maybe going through i bright spot for the famns but that is just for the time being.

We still have 4 provinces, 2 of which are much smaller than the other two.

Australia have the Waratahs, Queensland Reds, Brumbies, Melbourne. And a huge RL game which no matter what anybody says is a breeding ground for Union as well.

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just your regular au November 16, 2009 3:48 pm

mate dont give me that hurling garbage, that attracts a different athlete all together. its like me including aussie cricketers. rugby is a huge sport in ireland, you can always judge how big a sport is by looking at the crowd. our melbourne team doesnt exist yet, we dont have suitable stadia in perth, we bring in dozens of pacific islanders to make up the numbers in our super 14 teams etc etc. we dont have a domestic comp mate, we are a struggling union nation but still have the ability to beat any team on the planet. we thumped france and beat the boks this year. we know how to win, its a part of our culure. if we could select the top league and afl players we would be unstoppable.

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 3:50 pm

Cameron Maxted is a biased bollocks.

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 3:52 pm

we bring in dozens of pacific islanders to make up the numbers in our super 14 teams

Its called stealing

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Kearney for tests November 16, 2009 3:57 pm

Just your regular aussie bloke, are you actually serious? Rugby is fairly popular here, but soccer and Gaelic football are still king. I'd say in terms of numbers rugby and hurling have the same player base but about 60% or more of people who do sports here play either soccer or Gaelic. And hurling players are fairly similar as athletes to rugby players. They're supposed to be big, fast, fit, tough, and have good hand-eye coordination.

Both Ireland and Australia suffer from small player bases. It's probably worse for Ireland though cos Australia can get in league players or Pacific Islanders whereas Ireland can't.

I really don't know why you're trying to say that Ireland have more players, it's 100% not true.

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just your regular au November 16, 2009 3:58 pm

im sure their starving families would agree with you...

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Kearney for tests November 16, 2009 4:00 pm

And my vote goes to BOD for player of the year. I don't know how Francois Steyn or Tom Croft are in there. And Heaslip was good all year but I wouldn't say he was near being the world's best player.
And the same with McCaw.

Giteau and Du Preez are very deserving as well though.

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just your regular au November 16, 2009 4:01 pm

mate we no longer have the funds to get league players, dont you know anything? irish play soccer? thats news to me. they can't be any good at it, probably cause its not taken seriously over there. hurling is the ridiculous sport where they run around with sticks and hit a ball? yeah and how is that different to hockey? its a game that attracts the less physical athlete and shouldnt be taken into account because, if it didn't exist, those athletes wouldnt play union anyway.

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Kenny November 16, 2009 4:02 pm

Felix and aussi bloke heres the site now go and read as its obvious you have never lived in Ireland,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland#Sports

Heres the first line just to help you out of the stubborn hole you seem to be in

"The most popular sports in Ireland are Gaelic Football and Association Football.[97] Together with Hurling and Rugby, they make up the four biggest team sports in Ireland."

i dont think i need to type anymore on this one as its preety much settled there now.

Youll prob keep argueing though

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 4:03 pm

hurling is the ridiculous sport where they run around with sticks and hit a ball? yeah and how is that different to hockey? its a game that attracts the less physical athlete and shouldnt be taken into account because, if it didn't exist, those athletes wouldnt play union anyway.


What a cretin

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GAA lives November 16, 2009 4:05 pm

hurling is the ridiculous sport where they run around with sticks and hit a ball? yeah and how is that different to hockey? its a game that attracts the less physical athlete and shouldnt be taken into account

Tell that to some of the lads on the tipperary national team ha theyll chew your face off

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 4:07 pm

Yeah Barcella should be up there after friday night

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just your regular au November 16, 2009 4:07 pm

so those blokes bite, do they scratch too? lol no thanks mate.

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kenny November 16, 2009 4:09 pm

I said it all along, That award is going to BOD

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 4:13 pm

And you're wrong, it's going to FdP

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Kenny November 16, 2009 4:14 pm

Maybe he has played brilliantly all year as well, will be very interesting. I say BOD not because im Irish its more that he has been playing at such a high level consistently for so long, that its maybe his just rewards at this stage.

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 4:15 pm

Yeah, BOD's defence is too suspect. I wonder why he was selected?

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Kenny November 16, 2009 4:21 pm

Yeah, BOD's defence is too suspect. I wonder why he was selected?

He must have the IRB in his pocket so....its all a sham.

Come on mate!!! Because hes a great player!!thats why!!!

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Nathan November 16, 2009 5:12 pm

Well f*ck it, the way i see it, SH fans, slagged off the NH, Aus fans wanted a grandslam, so they obv thought it was possible and within reach, and they didnt get it......

so suck it up guys, and deal with it, ireland were ropey and they still got a draw, which put a smile on the face of IRE fans and NH fans alike.....obviously a win would be better but a draw will do!

Deal with it guys!

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BODisgod November 16, 2009 5:26 pm

just your regular aussie bloke..

really u have no domestic comp?please u put way more emphasis on ur domestic comp than we do in ireland.just look at the players who played in the final this year:Phil waugh,drew mitchell,stephen hoiles,Dean mumm,luke burgess..

dont sprout that BS here

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John November 16, 2009 5:28 pm

LOVE THE NEW IRELAND JERSEY and no that doesnt make me sound gay

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John November 16, 2009 5:30 pm

Dissapointed with the game as a whole Ireland had a chance to beat an awful Aussie team and couldnt put it away still hopefully they'll have SA
Oh... and regular aussie bloke your an idiot there were more people at ireland france in football then this game so less of the excuses please

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felix November 16, 2009 6:18 pm

all this arguing is worthwhile for kenny using the amazing academic resource which is... wikipedia!

hilarious.

thanks for coming kenny, you really injected some good old irish wisdom to the proceedings.

as for BOD, he wouldn't have played any tests at all if he were an aussie - Stirlo would have kept him out.
he's got the IRB nomination as a sympathy vote before the end of his career as he didn't win it when he was a good player back in 2001/2002 - just like they did with galthie.
the whole award is clearly a sham - brussouw wasn't nominated - he's been the player of the year by a mile.

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UrMa November 16, 2009 6:27 pm

Serious amount of keyboard warriors on here! In fairness Brussow was outstanding against the lions but went missing on friday night in Toulouse! Likewise BOD has also had his ups and downs!

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boysingreen November 16, 2009 6:37 pm

"felix" i agree witn your point about brussow not being nominated, he has been a truly amazing flanker this year, his skill in the rucks is brillaint and compared to stephen ferris and rocky elsom in size he does a exceptional..........

but................. o driscoll is AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! mortlock would only keep bod out with his goalkicking. O Drisscoll is a superb all round player who is willing to get into everything. iv seen countless ocassions for leinster and ireland, drico getting into mauls and rucks, if you watched the 6 nations you would of seen his tries against wales and england where he was up against the likes of tom croft, borthwick, ryan jones, martyn willaims etc.... at 2 rucks at the 5 meter line

BOD for world player of the year and come on Ireland!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Huh!! the 3rd November 16, 2009 7:13 pm

As an Ire fan I thought Pocock was brilliant. He was everywhere. Watching the Fra SA game friday I couldn't understand why the French players kept running at Brusseuw when they should know what he can do, same with Pocock, but then you see the lines they take and the amount of ground they cover to fill the gaps and be there at rucks, awesome. George Smith may about to be made redundant. Although I like Deans' policy of alternating them week in and out, pity Ire can't do that.

This is the difference between Aus and Ire. Pocock is 21 with 14 caps while Ireland have very good up and coming traditional opensides who can't get game time with their provinces. Tom O'Donnell at Munster is already 22 but will have to wait 2/3 years to get regular time, while Ulster's Willie Faloon, also 22, has been the best openside in Ire this season and isn't even in the A squad. Sean O'Brien looks more like an 8 than a 7, but like Wallace may have to become a 7.

Also as Aus are my 2nd team I can't take serious the comments that Aus had better back line play than Ireland. Hynes, AAC and Mitchell barely touched the ball all game which was a clear plan that worked for Ireland, while Ioane had 1 break. Then any time they got ball Giteau and more so Cooper kicked it away. It was the most conservative I've seen Aus play in a long time, while Ire's backs showed some good hands and ball control in tight spaces, as Aus defended well as expected. And even though Aus back row had dominance over Ire's, Wallace and Co gave Genia no time or space.

While their GS tour is gone I think they will remain undefeated. Hope this outing will stand to Ireland.

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Darren November 16, 2009 7:14 pm

@ Cameron Maxted

Just remember, you're the spawn of our convict seed. Enjoy that wooden spoon you seem so proud of mate.

@ Just a regular Aussie bloke

Starving families? Knocking hurling? Lets see, number 1 sport in Aus if I'm not mistaken is cricket. And you dare knock hurling? 2nd most popular sport, Aussie rules, derived from Gaelic football, 'cept for the English decided to fuck with ye by giving ye a rugby ball to use. Your Aussie rules player pool mustn't be that large if your continually scouting and taking Irish players from Gaelic football backgrounds.

Since I attended an Ire v Aus match in Australia, experienced the Ozzy fan's "humility" and "sportsmanship", I can safely say that for the most part, your heads are safely tucked away up your arse and I, along with my Kiwi bretheran, will all bask in glorius triumph when the Irish cut through ye at the next world cup. Lets see what you have to say when that happens, don't worry, I'll be around.

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TennisMan November 16, 2009 7:17 pm

BOD is the Federer of rugby, which therefore means he should be player of the year.

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Ireland for WC 2011 November 16, 2009 7:34 pm

@regular aussie boy
your a TWAT!how can you comment on hurling when you know hardly anything about it?"thats the game where people run around with sticks isnt it?how is it different from hockey?"
thats like me saying that because you have to kick the ball between posts in aussie rules,its the same as soccer.now do you realise how stupid you sound?

the figures quoted are about right,irelands first sport is soccer(though were not very good), then gaelic football,then rugby and hurling are about even. irelands player base is very small,so get your facts right.

i hate to be dragged into stupid debates over player bases and national games and other irrelevant things,but i felt i had to defend my country.how about we all stop fighting and just discuss the game?

remember people,everyone here logs on for one reason:WE ALL LOVE RUGBY.the fights here are all a result of couple of mindless idiots,so how about we show them how rugby followers are meant to behave:by taking the highground ,which means being civilised and thinking about what you're saying before you say it.just my two cents.

P.S to be good at hurling actually takes loads of skill

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Bamberio November 16, 2009 7:44 pm

And I thought women were supposed to be the bitchy ones.

Are you lot on your period?

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HM November 16, 2009 8:16 pm

I'm on the paddies' side, but if that Palu hit was a yellow card, then Kearney's (?) on Elsom as he was scoring had to be as well. If anything, Kearney's (?) was worse because it was actively trying to prevent a try - if Elsom hadn't scored it would have been a penalty try.

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 8:17 pm

He started it!!!!!

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MCB November 16, 2009 9:08 pm

Can't understand why O'Gara is getting so much criticism even tho he played well. best game of the season. Kicked well out of hand. BOD was very quiet apart from tackle on Elsom and try at the end. Other than that did very little. O'Gara is a player most ppl like to hate so he automatically gets the blame. As for decision to kick to Bowe instead of 3 points, that decision would have been made by both ROG and BOD yet only one seems 2 get blamed. In recent years when BOD was playeing well below his ability O'Gara was helping keep Ireland together. Top points scorer in 6 nations in 2005,2006 and 2007, but people seems 2 forget that very quickly

On another note, Fitzgerald out for 4-6 months with knee ligament damage. Huge loss

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Ireland for WC 2011 November 16, 2009 9:18 pm

btw,where is RD based?because the time is ahead

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Ireland for WC 2011 November 16, 2009 9:19 pm

of irish time that is,by two hours

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McBull November 16, 2009 9:35 pm

"Serious amount of keyboard warriors on here! In fairness Brussow was outstanding against the lions but went missing on friday night in Toulouse!"

He was the best player on the field. OPEN YOUR EYES.

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just your regular au November 16, 2009 9:43 pm

>>>> Starving families? Knocking hurling? Lets see, number 1 sport in Aus if I'm not mistaken is cricket.

mate cricket is a summer sport, its not a contact winter sport, like hurling. anyone you wanna slag cricket? i would bet simmons could take out any of your hurling ladyboys. and yeah starvin families, you do know rugby players get paid right??

>>>>> And you dare knock hurling? 2nd most popular sport, Aussie rules, derived from Gaelic football, 'cept for the English decided to fuck with ye by giving ye a rugby ball to use. Your Aussie rules player pool mustn't be that large if your continually scouting and taking Irish players from Gaelic football backgrounds.

hurling aint no gaelic football, mate. gaelic football is a watered down form of afl, but at least its better than "no skilled hockey". afl is the toughest sport on the planet. period.

>>>>> Since I attended an Ire v Aus match in Australia, experienced the Ozzy fan's "humility" and "sportsmanship", I can safely say that for the most part, your heads are safely tucked away up your arse and I, along with my Kiwi bretheran, will all bask in glorius triumph when the Irish cut through ye at the next world cup. Lets see what you have to say when that happens, don't worry, I'll be around.

keep dreaming MATE.

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 9:58 pm

Can the aus fans on here stop trying to cause issues.....you guys didnt get your grand slam.....

you didnt win....and so just accept it.....

one team might be happy to draw because they were expecting a loss.....your team on the other hand expected to win so you could have your grandslam.......and you didnt get it!

so get over it!!!

p.s guys this is a rugby website....not cricket, not hurling, not aussie rules, etc etc so lets not keep on at it.....

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just your regular au November 16, 2009 10:02 pm

mate your not admin so back off.

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TennisMan November 16, 2009 10:10 pm

Talk to me Mr.Aussie bloke

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Number7 November 16, 2009 10:10 pm

im rruuby throgh and through lads but topay hurlinnggtakes some serius balls ann far more skill andedcation than most rugby players have

here a vieo that will show tthe skill and powerr displayed by amatuuers..yes an amatuer sport yet these men will be pllaying in ron ofanywhere upto 80000 supporters

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSdjLyGA8Oc&feature=fvste3

View Video

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number7 November 16, 2009 10:11 pm

fucking keyboard playing up

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just your regular au November 16, 2009 10:14 pm

>>>>>> im rruuby throgh and through lads but topay hurlinnggtakes some serius balls ann far more skill andedcation than most rugby players have

excuse me?

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Jon November 16, 2009 10:28 pm

Anyway, back to the game.
The ref was shite, Aus was the better team, but Ireland certainly hung in there and kept fighting.
As an Aussie, I'm disgusted with the reffing preformance, you can't beat the other team AND the ref.
Aus dominated the scrums (should have got full arm penalties but didn't - because we're Aussies and for some reason we don't get rewarded for dominating the set piece), the rucks (again we got penalised a couple of times for nothing at the rucks, when our guys clearly were on their feet and legitimatley won the ball) the contact area (again, we get a guy sent off for a great tackle, while Kearney get's away with what was actually a shoulder charge - punsihed for our dominance) and the open play.
We only got beat in the line-outs, we were the better team in every other area.
The ref saved Ireland (that series of penalties at the end there, what a load of bollocks - why not just give the Irish a penalty try for nothing and be done with it).

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 10:40 pm

u cant imagen been kicked out in the knock out stages well u will in 2011 were in ur group i usually am humble but i cant take ur arrogance cameron now ur prob a nice guy but ur after playin a tri nations i respect the ausies great team good defence front row we had a hooker injured for weeks we had the bull suspended and a newbie who preformed well in the loose at age 22 cian healy

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Bill November 16, 2009 10:46 pm

Cian Heeley was outstanding with ball in hand (for a front rower).
Terrible in the crums though and fairly annonymous in the rucks.

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TennisMan November 16, 2009 10:56 pm

Ah now thats just nasty.

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TennisMan November 16, 2009 10:58 pm

I am an unfunny troll with no life.

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 11:04 pm

sorry i retract that last statement cameron actualy is a wanker a full on wanker i meen no offence to ausie team just tryin to piss him off

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Cameron Maxted November 16, 2009 11:22 pm

yeah umm dont make excuses about your scrum going back 20 meters Benny Robinson destroyed the Bull Hayes and is now the the most dynamic prop in the world

i suggest you dont talk about world cups mate, australia have won 2 and ireland hasn't even gotten past the quarter finals so dont be slack like that else I could just mention 14-10 and I dont want to have to do that lol because im sure its stuck in your mind every day :(

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 11:23 pm

Cameron Maxted:

You said if Giteau got his kick's? What if the the wing for Ireland didn't drop the ball got in for the try? What if his other two disallowed tries were allowed? Well none of that happened and the score was 20-20. That's how sport works.

If your gunna be such a whiny little bitch you should go and watch football. You didn't win, hard luck, go and bitch about it somewhere else. We can all mention poor past performances of a team.

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Anonymous November 16, 2009 11:47 pm

Soooo many wasted irish penalties by stupid decision making. Ireland could have won it (probably didn't deserve it though)

Very annoying game to watch if you were an irish fan like me!

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BeerMe November 16, 2009 11:49 pm

...what's with the Aussie moustaches? They're so bad they make mine look decent. Good game, I thought. Not great...but entertaining.

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Cameron Maxted November 17, 2009 12:05 am

mate, why do you feel the need to insult me?

yeah England knocked a poor wallabies outfit out of the rwc. we still have more world cups than them though

this young wallabies team has already got 4-5 players that would walk into a world XV. ireland and england however have none so dont cry about it

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Anonymous November 17, 2009 12:06 am

^^^that guy is not what a keyboard warrior is. keyboard warriors make threatts and stuff like that

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Tommo November 17, 2009 12:14 am

Beerme, the moustaches are for charity.
It's called Movember, you grow your mo for the month of November, and people sponser you to do it, you get more money the longer you don't shave it.
The money goes to charity (cancer and depression research and treatement), so they are really embarresing themselves for a very good cause.
Cameron, the Irish are a very good team.
They aren't as good as Australia, as reflected in results betweent he two teams and the world rankings, but they aren't far off and are getting better all the time. They don't quite have the skills or ferocity of a tri-nations team, but they can definatley compete and win the odd game, so show some respect mate.
In terms of this game, Aus were clearly the better side, the ref clearly f-cked Aus over, but you can't take anything away from the irish. They kept trying and fighting all the way through, and it's not their fault if the ref gives us a hard time, they can only play the game in front of them.

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Anonymous November 17, 2009 12:17 am

Because you are whining, slanting arguments, bringing up unnecessary facts, insulting teams because you didn't get the result you want.

Yeah you haven't won since 1999. You could have done it in 03, but you didn't. You could've don it in 07, but you didn't you just missed.

4 or 5 AU players in a world XV? I'm not even gunna argue about that. Nobody else will agree with you.

Anyway, this is getting retarded. You're whining again and taking your opinion as fact. There's not much point on arguing with you.

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BeerMe November 17, 2009 12:26 am

Thanks for the explanation, Tommo. I feel like I should've known that...I'm pretty sure I've heard the commentators mention it before.

Anyways...that's nice if it's all for charity. We usually just do "No Shave November" - so it's not just the pedostache. I don't think Ian Humphries is doing his beard for charity (maybe, I dunno), but that beard is magnificent.

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Cameron Maxted November 17, 2009 12:58 am

james O'connor, Ash Cooper, giteau, George smith and Benny Robinson all walk into a world xv mate

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Tommo November 17, 2009 1:20 am

Mate Smith and O'Conner can't even get starting spots for us, how would they walk into a world 15?

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Dezza November 17, 2009 1:47 am

Deans is building towards the WC, he's trying to develop new players. Smith is still far better than Pocock. JOC is a already a little master and if it wasn't for the power house AAC, he'd be in the starting 15.

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Anonymous November 17, 2009 2:11 am

HA cameron, completely shown up there! 5 aussie players to walk into the world 15 and you name two subs!!! That's bleedin brilliant. As for Bod being past it??? Yeh guess your right...I mean he only captained a grand slam winning team, won player of the tournament, galvanised the Lions as one part of perhaps the best centre partnership in the world and has now been shortlisted for world player of the year (athough Du Preez should get it). He is way past it. Hang up the boots Bod, your embarrasing yourself!

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Anonymous November 17, 2009 2:56 am

Get over it, BOD is not world class. Playing well against Italy or 2009 England does not make you world class. In the game against Australia, he didn't do anything until the last 30 seconds. He's overrated!!

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Bill November 17, 2009 3:02 am

There are a few Aussies who'd be up there for a world XV (although it's all subjective and therefore basically irrelevant).
But you'd say that Benn Robinson, Adam Ashley-Cooper, Matt Gitaeu, Rocky Elsom and Wycliff Palu would be up there.
Maybe Moore and Barnes as well.
In a few years O'Conner, Pocock, Alexander and Ioane could all be greats too. Maybe even Quade Cooper.

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QLD Greg November 17, 2009 3:52 am

Hey Cam mate, shut up - you're really embarrassing.
We should have closed that game out, very frustrating because with a bit of momentum we could have gone for the grand slam. Now with that setback, if Wales come out hard I think they might beat us.

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Gold Coast Cougar November 17, 2009 5:16 am

Why are the Irish fans so aggressive?

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Anonymous November 17, 2009 5:51 am

Irish are fighty mate, they love to argue and are quick to name call. The more crap you take from an irishman with good humour, the better friends you'll be.
They're also great craic when they're drinking.

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Anonymous November 17, 2009 6:09 am

mate, as an aussie i always wanted to know; do the english (UK) look down on the irish?

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Anonymous November 17, 2009 6:10 am

Best game of the week was France - SA.
The others suck, Scotland Fiji, most boring game ever :O

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number7 November 17, 2009 7:37 am

hey cameron ...you are in my view and even that of your countrymen a douchebag maybe you should tey play a bit of rugby before you start blasting on about something you obviously know nothing about

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number7 November 17, 2009 7:41 am

and gold coast cougar im not sure if you have heard but the irish fans have a reputation for being the most respectful fans going. i remember the days in landsdowne where you could hear a pin drop before a kick was taken. unfortunately the temporary move to croker has seen the rise of some booing or heckling but still its a tiny minority when you compare it to SH fans

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Cameron Maxted November 17, 2009 8:14 am

number7 mate i assume you're Irish, yeah your very nice calling me a vulgar name just because you disagree with my opinion. oh but the irish fans are so respectful.

mate it comes across as insecure with you insulting everyone else's fans. i guess ireland hasnt achieved much in the passed 60 or 100 years so when you do achieve something better make the most of it. lol

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number7 November 17, 2009 8:23 am

no im respectful to those deserving of my respect..you dont simple as.

and the irish have won every major trophy this year possible at international and club level

grand slam six nations triple crown churchil cup heiniken cup magners league..yep thats all 2009..but i guess over the las 60 years they havent done much no.

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RD November 17, 2009 8:37 am

Play nice or rather don't comment please. This isn't a school yard. If you'd like to discuss the game, go for it. Take the other stuff elsewhere though. Thanks

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felix November 17, 2009 9:00 am

ireland still have the worst overall six nations record - except italy. even scotland are better.

anyway, i was trying to support you cameron until the 5 aussie in the world XV thing. sheesh.

2 MAYBE.... NEITHER OF WHOM YOU MENTIONED!?
that would be mortlock if he was fit and elsom has a good chance.

giteau? no - steyn, wilkinson and carter are better at 10.

cooper is a very good player but there are lots better - he would be on the bench for france and the ABs
same goes for robinson - both argentina and italy have better props nevermind SA and NZ.

o'connor!? you are mental - he's not even good enough for the U21 world XV.

george smith ... seriously? have you heard of brussouw? or mccaw?

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Gavin November 17, 2009 9:53 am

Cameron Maxted, you are a retard. You are making Aussie fans look so ignorant you must be English or a New Zealander or something.

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Jake November 17, 2009 10:01 am

Gavin: Too right about Cameron mate, every time I see his name I cringe wondering what bullshit he's going to come out with next. I apologise on behalf of real Aus rugby fans, every country has gimps like this unfortunately.

I can't help feeling he hasn't got much going on in his own life so he looks to the achievements of others to make himself feel better - it's sad really.

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Oracle November 17, 2009 10:10 am

O'Connor is too good to feature in the U21 world XV.. in fact, he was too good to feature in the u20 world cup in Japan this summer, as he was drafted for the wallabies directly.

I agree that he had a few bad games against the All Blacks everytime he played them, but he stood his ground pretty nicely against SA, and of course against Italy, at an age when Dan Carter or Mat Giteau hadn't even begin playing senior rugby and were still in the youth sides.

Puts everything into perspective, doesn't it ?

By 2011, O'Connor will have easily secured a starting spot in the Wallabies and will be one of the best player in world rugby. He is a freak of nature and if he can play his natural game -that his, the way he played in S14 in 2009- at the international stage, then he'll be a star, simple as that.

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Anonymous November 17, 2009 10:28 am

Based on current form no Australian would make the world 15. Plenty of South Africans would, although that's no surprise if you've been following them this year.

Bismark, Botha, Matfield, Brussow, Du Preez, Steyn and Habana would all be good enough to make it.

Smith and Spies have been immense this year and wouldn't look out of place in the world 15. There's a reason why the Springboks weren't as dominant at the breakdown when playing France.

Props: Italy or Argentina, forget their names, you know the ones.

Centers: Fourie and De Villiers are both great. Last year most would agree De Villiers was the best center in the world. SA's kicking tactics didn't do them any favours this year, however, when they did get the ball they made the most of it. Jaque's try against the Lions will go down as one of the greatest tries ever.

Fullback: Steyn started to come into his own at the end of the trinations, but overall is just too inexperienced. He's not even the best fullback in SA (that'd be Terblanche) and made a few defensive errors.

Other Wing: I don't know... JP's too clumsy, wouldn't be anyone from Australia as they lack speed, NZ's abducted Fijian wins had an awful year...

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Cameron Maxted November 17, 2009 10:42 am

guys lay off me seriously because i have a bloody right to my opinion okay??

james O'connor is a utility player but he is so talented that he is the best fullback/outside center in the world.

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Cameron Maxted November 17, 2009 10:49 am

James o'connor is the reason why many are saying that Mortlock is going to retire soon

o'connor is stronger and faster than mortlock and is a better goal kicker

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Kearney for tests November 17, 2009 10:53 am

Cameron Maxted, James O'Connor can't catch high balls most of the time, isn't very fast, doesn't have a great sidestep, is fairly small, can't kick very well, and is a benchwarmer. He's obviously not the best fullback/outside centre in the world. He's not even nearly the best one in Australia. He's just young and that's why people are so impressed with him.

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Anonymous November 17, 2009 10:55 am

You reap what you sow buddy, why dont you read over your previous comments especially the early ones.

If you dont want to be treated badly, you really should watch what you post in future and try not to insulat as many people as possible.

Example: hurling, Georgia etc etc.

Not giving out, just a bit of friendly advice when dealing with Irish people!!

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Cameron Maxted November 17, 2009 11:03 am

thats rich coming from you Kearny... did you see your boy, Kearney try and tackle Rocky to stop him from scoring? shoulder barged him mate... thats a sign of a coward. the rock wasnt even running full on at him he could have hit him from the side to get him out... but his irish cowardness let himself and his average team down.

and james o'connor has a wonderful sidestep. he wouldnt be able to play sevens if he didnt!!!!

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Abs7 November 17, 2009 11:09 am

Some rubbish comments on here, idiots.
And the draw is a bit of a rubber result, a bit like kissing your sister!

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Peter M November 17, 2009 11:16 am

Thanks to Cameron Maxted I will no longer come back to this site.

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Fourie's Feet November 17, 2009 11:17 am

Cameron,

his irish cowardness let himself and his average team down
WTF? I think your Australian stupidness has let you down. Oh sorry, that's racist. Oh wait, so are you, so you shouldn't mind.

Apologies to the real Aussie fans.

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MCB November 17, 2009 11:47 am

Kearney a coward? Cameron have you seen him play at all in 2009? Solid in 6 nations, unreal in lions 2nd test. how many times have u seen him drop a high ball? has an unrel sidestep, look up his try against ospreys for leinster few years ago. And he's tougher than most think. Played against France in 6 nations with bad ankle injury and concussion. Against Wales his back went into spasm in d 1st minute. Played on until 70th. Most secure full back in NH, maybe even the world. Himself and Lee Byrne wouldn't be a million miles away from making a world XV. Certainly ahead of O'Connor. He had little or no impact when he came on on sunday

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mortlockyoubeautie November 17, 2009 12:17 pm

dont f**king cry about it cameron maxted, your just an embarrasment to true ozzy fans thats all. and shut up about o'connor vs mortlock, stirling has been the man for ages

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felix November 17, 2009 1:58 pm

ok guys -
commenting guidlines No.1 - keep it mature and respectful

anyway this o'connor stuff is probably better for the forums rather than this posting.

yeah he's got a sidestep but that's about it so far. he's been really poor against the ABs and reminds me of england playing matthew tait too early in his career which led to a break in his confidence. Ioane is a much better option at outside - look at the super 14 stats - he is the linebreak king.
And I seriously cannot believe cameron you said o'connor is stronger than mortlock... i'm lost for words.

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