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Tuesday, November 17, 2009

Sean Lamont takes care of the Fijian wingers

Sean Lamont takes care of the Fijian wingers

The Lamont brothers returned to international rugby on the weekend as they were recalled by new Scotland coach Andy Robinson for the match against Fiji at Murrayfield. Right wing Sean managed to make his impact felt with two great hits.

Both brothers have been out of the limelight in recent times as they battled back from bad form and injury problems. The Evans brothers, Thom and Max, then emerged as the Scottish brothers on the block, which overshadowed the Lamonts to an extent. Because of that, this recent call up came as a nice surprise to Sean.

"To get the call with the amount of talent that Scotland has in the back three, I'm very surprised, but very happy," he said.

Younger brother Rory disagreed though. "I wasn't surprised," said the full-back. "I was hopeful that we'd both get picked. Having seen Sean play, I knew he was back to his best rugby and I knew he had a good chance."

Scotland expected a bit of a physical stuff against Fiji, which is perhaps one of the reasons why Robinson went ahead with the selection of the powerful, well built outside backs.

"I expect hard hits, occasional high hits and the odd swinging arm, as you do against the islanders," said Rory. "Genetically, they're just a little bit different to British players. They're strong and quick. But I feel ready for it."

Ironically it wasnt actually the Fijians who put in the biggest hits of the match, but Rorys brother Sean, who as you can see here nailed both of the South Sea Islander's massive wings with two awesome tackles.

Time: 01:16

Posted at 1:09 pm | 66 comments

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jay November 17, 2009 1:34 pm

Wow great tackle... Napo doesn't get shaken that often. Even the stiff arm doesn't work. Great technique from Lamont ^^

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jay November 17, 2009 1:34 pm

Wow great tackle... Napo doesn't get shaken that often. Even the stiff arm doesn't work. Great technique from Lamont ^^

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cp85 November 17, 2009 2:01 pm

just as well he wasnt facing Nalaga

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cp85 November 17, 2009 2:01 pm

just as well he wasnt facing Nalaga

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Anonymous November 17, 2009 2:07 pm

Second one looked a tad late for me.

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Anonymous November 17, 2009 2:07 pm

Second one looked a tad late for me.

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Anonymous November 17, 2009 2:39 pm

was a little late but looked committed and was anything dangerous, well played on by the ref

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Anonymous November 17, 2009 2:39 pm

was a little late but looked committed and was anything dangerous, well played on by the ref

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clem November 17, 2009 2:50 pm

The second tackle was late but nice.

Being a Clermont supporter, i have to say that i've never seen Nalaga being tackled so high without an enormous handsoff in the tackler's head !! Maybe his arm wasn't yet tight when lamont tackled him. Very impressive tackle especially when you know nap's qualities!

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clem November 17, 2009 2:50 pm

The second tackle was late but nice.

Being a Clermont supporter, i have to say that i've never seen Nalaga being tackled so high without an enormous handsoff in the tackler's head !! Maybe his arm wasn't yet tight when lamont tackled him. Very impressive tackle especially when you know nap's qualities!

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Anonymous November 17, 2009 3:10 pm

On that second one, if it was a Islander hitting a white guy it would have been a penalty.

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Anonymous November 17, 2009 3:10 pm

On that second one, if it was a Islander hitting a white guy it would have been a penalty.

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Rich W November 17, 2009 3:37 pm

The second tackle was fair enough, the fiji wing saw it coming and had to rush his pass, hence the poor pass. That prob made it look a bit later too. Good bit of D.

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Rich W November 17, 2009 3:37 pm

The second tackle was fair enough, the fiji wing saw it coming and had to rush his pass, hence the poor pass. That prob made it look a bit later too. Good bit of D.

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Canadian Content November 17, 2009 3:47 pm

First tackle was very impressive, dumping a powerful had time to react.

2nd tackle was not late as the timing and committment forced the poor past.

Why does everyone come on this site and always look for some sort of contraversy? Rugby is a fast paced game and a ref needs to make decisions instantly. The hit was clean, but this reminds me of Carter' late hit in the Welsh game. Initially I thought it was fine, until the replays.

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Canadian Content November 17, 2009 3:47 pm

First tackle was very impressive, dumping a powerful had time to react.

2nd tackle was not late as the timing and committment forced the poor past.

Why does everyone come on this site and always look for some sort of contraversy? Rugby is a fast paced game and a ref needs to make decisions instantly. The hit was clean, but this reminds me of Carter' late hit in the Welsh game. Initially I thought it was fine, until the replays.

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Phil November 17, 2009 4:20 pm

I think it's easy to say 'late' when you're watching slow-mo replays from different angles. Try watching at full-speed again.

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Phil November 17, 2009 4:20 pm

I think it's easy to say 'late' when you're watching slow-mo replays from different angles. Try watching at full-speed again.

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clem November 17, 2009 4:30 pm

I said late. not illegal. I think the ref was right not to stop the game.

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clem November 17, 2009 4:30 pm

I said late. not illegal. I think the ref was right not to stop the game.

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Anonymous November 17, 2009 4:37 pm

wow nice hits.. second was just as late as lolo lui's tackle against peel.. the usual double standards

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Anonymous November 17, 2009 4:37 pm

wow nice hits.. second was just as late as lolo lui's tackle against peel.. the usual double standards

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SomeThingsDontChange November 17, 2009 5:14 pm

Agree. Double standards alright on the 2nd tackle.

Had that been the other way around or in the Samoan game there would've been crowd boos, a yellow card and a penalty - no question.

Oh wait, it DID happen in the Samoan game. Silly me.

And don't foget another Polynesian, Wycliff Palu got binned playing for Australia for a "hard tackle" also.

If you watch Henry Tuilagi's tackle on Ben Foden there's as much arm wrap as there is in Lamont's 2nd tackle but I guarantee, no-way in a million years will you hear Dewi Morris or other commentators slate Lamont in the same way he slated Tuilagi that day, i'd put my house on it.

Disgustingly one-eyed and has been going on for decades.

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SomeThingsDontChange November 17, 2009 5:14 pm

Agree. Double standards alright on the 2nd tackle.

Had that been the other way around or in the Samoan game there would've been crowd boos, a yellow card and a penalty - no question.

Oh wait, it DID happen in the Samoan game. Silly me.

And don't foget another Polynesian, Wycliff Palu got binned playing for Australia for a "hard tackle" also.

If you watch Henry Tuilagi's tackle on Ben Foden there's as much arm wrap as there is in Lamont's 2nd tackle but I guarantee, no-way in a million years will you hear Dewi Morris or other commentators slate Lamont in the same way he slated Tuilagi that day, i'd put my house on it.

Disgustingly one-eyed and has been going on for decades.

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Anonymous November 17, 2009 7:22 pm

i agree refs usually pay more attention to islander tackles. but imo there is no way this tackle could be considered dangerous, even compared to the ones in the Wales/Samoa game (i grant you i have seen very little of this match - highlights only) because this tackle clearly aims at the chest. In the other match, the tackles often seem to be 15 to 20 cm higher.
I see what you mean though.
by Maximus

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Anonymous November 17, 2009 7:22 pm

i agree refs usually pay more attention to islander tackles. but imo there is no way this tackle could be considered dangerous, even compared to the ones in the Wales/Samoa game (i grant you i have seen very little of this match - highlights only) because this tackle clearly aims at the chest. In the other match, the tackles often seem to be 15 to 20 cm higher.
I see what you mean though.
by Maximus

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thats what she November 17, 2009 7:30 pm

they're both really big

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thats what she November 17, 2009 7:30 pm

they're both really big

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No.7 November 17, 2009 7:43 pm

I am definately a Lamont bros fan and its great to see them back.

buuuuut i have to agree with some of the comments about the second tackle....i dont particularly think it was late, but i think if that was a tackle by an islander the ref might have blown the whistle.....

....maybe not .....i dunno, its good to see the big hits but yeh...

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No.7 November 17, 2009 7:43 pm

I am definately a Lamont bros fan and its great to see them back.

buuuuut i have to agree with some of the comments about the second tackle....i dont particularly think it was late, but i think if that was a tackle by an islander the ref might have blown the whistle.....

....maybe not .....i dunno, its good to see the big hits but yeh...

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Anonymous November 17, 2009 8:15 pm

you dont see the part when nalaga bone crunches cuister and danelli.lets get the tuilagi hit on hook its massive on here

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Anonymous November 17, 2009 8:15 pm

you dont see the part when nalaga bone crunches cuister and danelli.lets get the tuilagi hit on hook its massive on here

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Anonymous November 17, 2009 10:15 pm

They're good tackles but the commentary is ridiculous. In no way were they big hits. My nan hits harder.

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Anonymous November 17, 2009 10:15 pm

They're good tackles but the commentary is ridiculous. In no way were they big hits. My nan hits harder.

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Tommo November 17, 2009 10:45 pm

Great hits.
But the truth is, if that second hit had been by the Fijian on the Scot, it probably would have been carded.
The hypocrasy in rugby at the moment is breathtaking.
Applauded when a guy from Scotland does it, carded when a guy from the Islands does it.

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Tommo November 17, 2009 10:45 pm

Great hits.
But the truth is, if that second hit had been by the Fijian on the Scot, it probably would have been carded.
The hypocrasy in rugby at the moment is breathtaking.
Applauded when a guy from Scotland does it, carded when a guy from the Islands does it.

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Bill November 17, 2009 10:59 pm

Is it racism?
They are being treated differently because of their race (ie Islanders get carded for things British players get applauded for).

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Bill November 17, 2009 10:59 pm

Is it racism?
They are being treated differently because of their race (ie Islanders get carded for things British players get applauded for).

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No.7 November 17, 2009 11:21 pm

As much as we have disagreed in the past videos tommo, gotta agree here....

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No.7 November 17, 2009 11:21 pm

As much as we have disagreed in the past videos tommo, gotta agree here....

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Anonymous November 17, 2009 11:46 pm

i don't think that 2nd tackle was late at all.. much respect to lamont for those hits

but i also agree that if it were an islander commiting the "tackle," it would've been considered illegal.

same thing occurs all the time in US rugby.. islanders get carded wile non-islanders get praised for the same "tackles."

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Anonymous November 17, 2009 11:46 pm

i don't think that 2nd tackle was late at all.. much respect to lamont for those hits

but i also agree that if it were an islander commiting the "tackle," it would've been considered illegal.

same thing occurs all the time in US rugby.. islanders get carded wile non-islanders get praised for the same "tackles."

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Tommo November 17, 2009 11:47 pm

Cheers no 7, no hard feelings mate, nothing wrong with disagreeing, just means you have an opinion.
It is a problem, and it's borderline racist.
Islanders hsouldn't be held to any different standard, and in the S14 they aren't (cuz there's heaps of them, probably a quarter of the players in the comp, maybe more like a third - plus in Aus and Nz we grow up with these guys, play with them - and they shouldn't be treated any differently).

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Tommo November 17, 2009 11:47 pm

Cheers no 7, no hard feelings mate, nothing wrong with disagreeing, just means you have an opinion.
It is a problem, and it's borderline racist.
Islanders hsouldn't be held to any different standard, and in the S14 they aren't (cuz there's heaps of them, probably a quarter of the players in the comp, maybe more like a third - plus in Aus and Nz we grow up with these guys, play with them - and they shouldn't be treated any differently).

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billyboy321 November 18, 2009 11:51 am

i think both tackles wer legal and gud tackles, but everyone knws they wer borderline enuf tht if the roles of the players had been reversed, the commentators wud have been screamin foul play, and the ref way well have done somethin. an islander is bound to get called for a high tackle 4 the first one (lamont pretty much shoulered napo in the head), and late for the second, just like cliffy palu got done, just like lolo lui got done, just like henry tuilagi got done a couple weeks back. all thos players have something in common dont they?

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billyboy321 November 18, 2009 11:51 am

i think both tackles wer legal and gud tackles, but everyone knws they wer borderline enuf tht if the roles of the players had been reversed, the commentators wud have been screamin foul play, and the ref way well have done somethin. an islander is bound to get called for a high tackle 4 the first one (lamont pretty much shoulered napo in the head), and late for the second, just like cliffy palu got done, just like lolo lui got done, just like henry tuilagi got done a couple weeks back. all thos players have something in common dont they?

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No.7 November 18, 2009 2:16 pm

^^^^^ im not so sure the commentators would be, the scottish commentator is one of my favourites because he seems passionate yet not massively biased.....

but yes i think the tackle was a bit borderline (not that i wouldnt accept it if i had my way) but i reckon if an islander did it, maybe nothing, but maybe a penalty.

my opinion, no doubt people will disagree

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No.7 November 18, 2009 2:16 pm

^^^^^ im not so sure the commentators would be, the scottish commentator is one of my favourites because he seems passionate yet not massively biased.....

but yes i think the tackle was a bit borderline (not that i wouldnt accept it if i had my way) but i reckon if an islander did it, maybe nothing, but maybe a penalty.

my opinion, no doubt people will disagree

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Nick , NZ November 19, 2009 1:21 am

i dont see what the difference is between this and wycliff palus tackle that got him a yellow card, except with his tackle the player still had the ball, lamonts arms didnt wrap around which was one of the arguments made against wycliffs tackle. does the black factor play a role in the yellow card, and the fact that it was a much bigger hit

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Nick , NZ November 19, 2009 1:21 am

i dont see what the difference is between this and wycliff palus tackle that got him a yellow card, except with his tackle the player still had the ball, lamonts arms didnt wrap around which was one of the arguments made against wycliffs tackle. does the black factor play a role in the yellow card, and the fact that it was a much bigger hit

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Anonymous November 19, 2009 2:33 am

Clearly it does Nick, clearly it does.

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Anonymous November 19, 2009 2:33 am

Clearly it does Nick, clearly it does.

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Anonymous November 19, 2009 4:07 am

Oh look, Lamont doesn't wrap up and hits with his shoulder.
No penalty though, no ban, no condemnation, just applause and praise from the commentators.
What a coincidence that Lamont is from Sctoland and apparently not an Islander.
Just a coincidence right?

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Anonymous November 19, 2009 4:07 am

Oh look, Lamont doesn't wrap up and hits with his shoulder.
No penalty though, no ban, no condemnation, just applause and praise from the commentators.
What a coincidence that Lamont is from Sctoland and apparently not an Islander.
Just a coincidence right?

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Anonymous November 19, 2009 3:59 pm

you cannot slate his second tackle because of what would happen if it was the other way round, you expect people to not make them hits as it may be unfair to the islanders, they add big hits and often late and dirty hits because they lack any organisation or structure

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Anonymous November 19, 2009 3:59 pm

you cannot slate his second tackle because of what would happen if it was the other way round, you expect people to not make them hits as it may be unfair to the islanders, they add big hits and often late and dirty hits because they lack any organisation or structure

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Anonymous November 19, 2009 11:41 pm

HAHAHA!!!
Right fucking there ^^^^
Exactyly what everyone is talking about!
Do you realise how fucking racist that is, you tool?!

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Anonymous November 19, 2009 11:41 pm

HAHAHA!!!
Right fucking there ^^^^
Exactyly what everyone is talking about!
Do you realise how fucking racist that is, you tool?!

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Tim November 19, 2009 11:54 pm

This is the mentality of British and Irish rugby supporters apparently.
Islanders are all high tackling, lack organisation or structure, probably have sloped brows and can't do math properly.
Any more sterotypes and racist sweeping generalisations people want to throw in there?
So all you have to do to get away with shouldering someone (for the record there's nothing wrong with virtually any of the hits that have been yellow carded this season for bullshit shoulder charge calls) is be a good, organised and structured WHITE guy from the UK.
You racist idiots.

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Tim November 19, 2009 11:54 pm

This is the mentality of British and Irish rugby supporters apparently.
Islanders are all high tackling, lack organisation or structure, probably have sloped brows and can't do math properly.
Any more sterotypes and racist sweeping generalisations people want to throw in there?
So all you have to do to get away with shouldering someone (for the record there's nothing wrong with virtually any of the hits that have been yellow carded this season for bullshit shoulder charge calls) is be a good, organised and structured WHITE guy from the UK.
You racist idiots.

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Carts7 November 20, 2009 1:18 pm

Bloody hell chaps, why do people feel the need, be it white or coloured folks, to play the race card so quickly. The tackles were good hits between two big men. The fact that the ref here played on and dismissed what could be seen as a late/shoulder charge/no arms tackle and other refs in other games pull the player up (who on the occasions mentioned happened to be coloured or southern hemisphere players) does not make automiatically make one or the other racist or not.

Its grinds my gears to read and listen to this drivel. Things i do agree on however are the making rugby soft issue surrounding tackle areas and rucks and the fact that there is no consistancy bewteen referees. This i know is impossible to make fair as each individual referee will see/ref the game dirrerently according to his opinion/experience/preference but remember if these guys did not do the job in the middle (to varying levels) we would not have games, therefore I feel that although I (and most other fans) will disagree with at least one ruling/penalty in a game we must unfortunately accept anything done (are armchair fans/players really going to have a say on refereeing matters)

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Carts7 November 20, 2009 1:18 pm

Bloody hell chaps, why do people feel the need, be it white or coloured folks, to play the race card so quickly. The tackles were good hits between two big men. The fact that the ref here played on and dismissed what could be seen as a late/shoulder charge/no arms tackle and other refs in other games pull the player up (who on the occasions mentioned happened to be coloured or southern hemisphere players) does not make automiatically make one or the other racist or not.

Its grinds my gears to read and listen to this drivel. Things i do agree on however are the making rugby soft issue surrounding tackle areas and rucks and the fact that there is no consistancy bewteen referees. This i know is impossible to make fair as each individual referee will see/ref the game dirrerently according to his opinion/experience/preference but remember if these guys did not do the job in the middle (to varying levels) we would not have games, therefore I feel that although I (and most other fans) will disagree with at least one ruling/penalty in a game we must unfortunately accept anything done (are armchair fans/players really going to have a say on refereeing matters)

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Anonymous November 20, 2009 2:17 pm

Hey Carts, I'm the Anon that said this would be considered a double standard. Just look at RD's front page. It's all Islanders tackling Europeans and getting carded due to "reckless" tackling. Not high, but with such an impact that players themselves bounce off each other from the collision. This is physics and not foul play. The referees are more part of the game than ever before. I don't like it, far too many cards. I'm 32 and white!

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Anonymous November 20, 2009 2:17 pm

Hey Carts, I'm the Anon that said this would be considered a double standard. Just look at RD's front page. It's all Islanders tackling Europeans and getting carded due to "reckless" tackling. Not high, but with such an impact that players themselves bounce off each other from the collision. This is physics and not foul play. The referees are more part of the game than ever before. I don't like it, far too many cards. I'm 32 and white!

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Carts7 November 21, 2009 12:08 pm

I'm 472 (and a half) and am purple with rainbow blood.

Really guys, does it matter our ages and skin colour when arguing points on here. It only makes you look defensive when arguing your point on NH v SH tackling matters. I think we should all agree to disagree as we will never resolve this by typing messages on a forum.

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing".

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Carts7 November 21, 2009 12:08 pm

I'm 472 (and a half) and am purple with rainbow blood.

Really guys, does it matter our ages and skin colour when arguing points on here. It only makes you look defensive when arguing your point on NH v SH tackling matters. I think we should all agree to disagree as we will never resolve this by typing messages on a forum.

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing".

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