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Saturday, November 28, 2009

Ireland beat South Africa at Croke Park in Dublin

Ireland beat South Africa at Croke Park in Dublin

Dublin will celebrate tonight as their Ireland team beat South Africa 15-10 at a cold and misty Croke Park earlier today. Flyhalf Jonathan Sexton was the hero of the day as he showed great temperament to kick all the points for his side, slotting five penalty kicks in terrible weather conditions.

The irony of the match is that it was the Springboks two most powerful assets all year the lineout and the boot of Morne Steyn that let them down.

They did score the only try of the match though, with Schalk Burger gliding through in the first half, setting up a 10-6 half time lead for the visitors.

Sexton kicked Ireland back in front in the second half, following a few unforced errors from the Boks, as well as one or two lapses in discipline.

South Africa dominated the scrums, but it was the Irish forwards who got the better of the break down as they turned over Springbok ball repeatedly. Rob Kearney at the back was also sensational for the home side, showing what a class act he is under the high ball in particular.

The conditions were ultimately dealt with better by the home side, but it came down to Ireland slotting their kicks, and South Africa missing theirs.

"You have to kick your penalties. They took their chances but we didn't," said captain John Smit.

"We did a lot of damage in the scrum and that gave us a huge amount of impetus. But our lineouts and kicking let us down but ironically those have been our strengths this year."

Springbok coach Peter De Villiers has confessed that fatigue played a part after a successful, yet exhausting year. "We want to honour rugby and do the best we can," he said.

"If we'd picked the second team people would have thought we're looking down on them but maybe we should have rested a few senior players. We must regroup and build on what we've achieved this year."

Brian ODriscoll reflected on how pleased he is that the Ireland team have turned things around, considering they lost 22-3 to New Zealand a year ago.

"This win was very pleasing - it's all about continuing to progress," said O'Driscoll."We were in a dark place this time last year and we did a lot of soul searching and there was huge honesty. To turn it around as quickly as we have done is a huge credit to everyone involved, not just players but management too.

"Im glad to come out on the right side of a result. The last three times weve been good enough to win in Dublin. Now the pressures on us to go down there (to South Africa) and pick up a scalp."

Following the match in Dublin, South Africa have been named IRB Team of the Year, while Ireland coach Declan Kidney was named IRB Coach of the Year.

"It's been a huge year for us and to top it off with a recognition like this, to secure the top prize is massive. It was a huge ambition of many of the guys to beat the British & Irish Lions, it was a goal to be victorious so that was a great highlight for us during the year," said Smit.

Ireland themselves have played ten, won nine, and drawn one this year.

"I don't know what to say really, the team have been superb over the last 12 months, said Kidney.

"I feel my role is overstated, I haven't made a tackle all year! But for my family putting up with me and the players putting up with me even more I'd like to accept it on their behalf."


Time: 08:42

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geordie November 28, 2009 9:39 pm

now come all the comments from boks about how south africa are still better than ireland well thats just sore loosers for you hey

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Phil November 28, 2009 9:43 pm

Some really bad spelling going on in these comments.

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Anonymous November 28, 2009 9:47 pm

Hard luck Bokke!

Ons is elkgeval n beter rugby span as ierland en sal nog wees vir n lang tyd. Gee hulle maar die oomblik, Ek dink hulle peak op die verkeerde tyd.Oor twee jaar is dit weer n verskonning wat hulle weer moet uitdink.

Viva Bokke

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andy says November 28, 2009 9:49 pm

Well I saw many comments "boks to win by 50 points" , boks this and boks that , EAT humble pie , you played the type of rugby that is really turning away people from the game , kick the ball ... kick the ball ... um and kick it again, you guys were well beaten and there is no excuses , please stop with this South hemisphere superiority , be humble if you can and try not to make fools of yourselves here by posting "ifs and maybes" good game Ireland and best of luck next year saludos desde Espaa

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Anonymous November 28, 2009 9:51 pm

Ek like dit, kom ons komment in Afrikaans en piss hulle af, haha. En ja hulle peak weer op die verkeerde tyd, stem 100% saam.

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Anonymous November 28, 2009 9:55 pm

Y Si cabron no hablas aqui en Afrikaans sabes que nadie va entenderte coo y la verdad es facil saber que has puesto y no son mejores que los Irlandeses. Vos sois una raza sin vergenza, me has intendido? pues No , entonces WRITE IN ENGLISH SO EVERYBODY CAN UNDERSTAND ... we all speak different languages and I know you Afrikaaners speak english

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Ireland for WC 2011 November 28, 2009 9:55 pm

fatigue or no fatigue,ireland were superior by far,only place they lost out was in the scrum.they were the only team today who tried to play rugby.
also,south africa should have had a couple of yellow cards.pietersens tackle on bowe was a disgrace.

@comment above from andy
completely agree south africas game plan is awful,it makes the game really boring and unnatractive.

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Anonymous November 28, 2009 10:02 pm

Wies jy, ek sal skryf in watter taal ek wil, Maar ja, SA se gameplan raak ook nou rerig eentoonig, PdV moet maar in die af tyd gan sit en dink en ek glo hy sal baie leer uit die toer uit.

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No.7 November 28, 2009 10:04 pm

BTW, what is the professional view on JP 'tackle'

Id say high....although i read some tool on youtube was saying that JP's arms were up so it wasnt his fault.....

....not being massively at one with the rule book i have yet to say anything....

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FrankyH November 28, 2009 10:05 pm

Sucks to lose as a Bok fan. Well done though Ireland.. you kicked your kicks - we didn't. You also dominated at ruck time. SA were half asleep there.

That weather was awful though. We're useless in that. :(

Someone mentioned tactics.. yeah, considering superman was plucking everything out the sky with ease, it was dumb of steyn etc to keep hoisting them up on him. Usually Fourie Du Preez has more of a brain than that. Seemed like a lazy tactic. We've got heaps of talent in that backline, why not use it sometimes? Almost scored when they did.. with Beast flying down the wing.

Anyway, never easy to travel to a packed stadium in Dublin and win. Congrats Ireland. Come to Ellis Park next please. ;)

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HN November 28, 2009 10:07 pm

Kearney the best fullback in the world right now.

Also, is anyone a little bit disgusted that Burger is back playing so soon? Good to see him get the boos he deserves.

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FrankyH November 28, 2009 10:07 pm

No7, it was high, no doubt about it. Reflex and not malicious, but high. Should have been penalised.. unlike that 'high' tackle from Steyn on BOD. So it evened out..

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Dave November 28, 2009 10:10 pm

HN, playing so soon?? the Lions series was months ago mate lol
Poor to boo him imo. Will Shane Jennings and Quinlan get that treatment too, the other eye gougers?

Great sportsmanship with the silence at the kicks, then booing a player when he scores and celebrates. Nice.

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Anonymous November 28, 2009 10:13 pm

Suck it Bokkies

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Anonymous November 28, 2009 10:18 pm

Yeah it seemed to me that the boks were exhausted and just wernt bothered trying to put a string of passes together hence the repetitive kicking.Seriously they know Kearney from the Lions tests,the guy would catch those kicks with ease all day-really idiotic tactics from the boks.Cant wait for the 6 nations I would have had France as favourites but I think Irelands consistencey should see them win another 6n title and possibly another gs.

Also did I hear wrong or did Richie Mcaw get world player of the year!I mean BOD or Du Preez were the obvious choices.

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Anonymous November 28, 2009 10:19 pm

Boks lost, Well done Ireland. Hope PdV rethinks his gameplan and makes it more running, New Zealand just showed the world how to play test rugby.

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Scotsdale November 28, 2009 10:26 pm

Totally agree - NZ just played the most attractive rugby of anyone over 4 weeks, although Aus were good today too.

Btw, applying your rules from last weekend northerners, thats 3-2 to the SH then this weekend?

Or if we use the PROPER rules, which only includes the Tri Nations SH sides, then it's 2-1. Still a SH win for the weekend.

I feel so much better now. Big deal. Is this how you lot felt last weekend when you were gloating about the NH weekend win? el lame-o.

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Anonymous November 28, 2009 10:36 pm

I'd hardly call Jennings an eye gouger. He put his hand on his face, it wasn't gouging. I was sitting right in front of it.

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Anonymous November 28, 2009 10:39 pm

Could someone explain the whole fatigue thing people are talking about? I know that the Boks have been playing together for a long period of time now, but all the players of the other teams were playing for their clubs as well before playing for their countries so they've had a long season as well.

I'd see the Boks as having the advantage (for being together for so long).

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Feargal November 28, 2009 10:54 pm

Steyn's tackle on O'driscoll was high. He hit him round the next. Being taller isn't an excuse.

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themull November 28, 2009 10:59 pm

O'Connel was immense as was BOD.....

Pretty good game IMO...Sure the Boks kicked alot but thats how they play...They prefer the physical aspect of the game so kicking is abig part of their gameplan and in fairness its worked for the last two years so nothing wrong in that... Ireland were just the better side today and should of had a try but SA saved it with a high swinging arm and the beast getting in the way (walking back from offside) of a walk in try....

New Zealand basically just arse raped France and showed the rest of the world how to play test rugby....Defend hard, steal ball and attack quickly with conviction....

But McCaw player of the year?? I dont think so....Bod or DuPreez deserved it so much more....I prob would have given it to DuPreez tbh...

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Feargal November 28, 2009 11:01 pm

Btw, nie in Afrikaans geskryf dink jy is 'n indrukwekkende donkies. Timid go lir ag r teanga fin. Amadn.

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themull November 28, 2009 11:05 pm

And BTW to anybody complaining about the weather...

It was not as bad as people are making out....I mean sure it was very very cold but it was not that wondy and I'm sure SA have played in windier conditions than what they experienced today....And since when ha cold weather really helped any team??And IMO it certainly wasn't a crucial aspect to this game

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Dave November 28, 2009 11:25 pm

Anonymous said - "I'd hardly call Jennings an eye gouger. He put his hand on his face, it wasn't gouging. I was sitting right in front of it."

Jennings was found guilty of it, and was suspended. Same as Burger. Therefore, he's just as much of an eye gouger, sorry.

Sounds like your emotion and patriotism is getting the better of your judgement.

Btw, Sexton was immense today. And also, as much as I dislike him, it was great to see ROG smiling and being happy etc on the sideline, despite not playing. He's usually a miserable git. Fair play to him today though.

Sexton retained for Six Nations as #1 flyhalf?

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Anonymous November 28, 2009 11:27 pm

Oh but SA by 30+
ha!
Come on girls, where are your nonsense excuses?

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Anonymous November 28, 2009 11:29 pm

It seems South Africa exhausted this year's skills and discipline in the Lions and Tri-nations.

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Anonymous November 28, 2009 11:38 pm

Yes Ireland!

I know there is alot of criticism for the way the game is developing with more kicking etc.

But if today's game was meant to be an example of modern rugby, then Im a happy man. Sure there wasn't great running rugby but the sheer aggression and intensity of it was amazing. Shrewd tactics or no shrewd tactics this was sweet to watch.

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Anonymous November 28, 2009 11:38 pm

Hehehehe.. poor old bokkies!!

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O'Connell for Presid November 28, 2009 11:59 pm

Kearny >>> Kirchner
Bowe > Pietersen
O'Dricoll > Fourie
Wallace = Olivier
Earls > Habana (not very hard)
Sexton >>> Steyn
O'Leary > Du Preez
Heaslip > Rossouw
Wallace = Burger
Ferris < Brossow
O'Connell >>> Matfield
O'Callaghan > Bekker
Hayes < Botha (scrum)
Flannery > Smit
Healy > Mtawarira

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Anonymous November 29, 2009 12:33 am

i love the way all the SA are talking in the devil tongue, probably moaning about a mist or a slight breeze

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Kearney for tests November 29, 2009 12:38 am

Aside from FrankyH who seems like a gentleman, I'm just glad that this shut up all those asshole South Africans who kept going on and on for weeks about how nobody can live with them and how they're superior in every aspect, and being a bunch of ungracious children.
I thought Kearney was excellent as my name suggests, but I was shocked at Nigel Owens and his and the touch judges ineffectiveness at punishing foul play. I mean a knee in the head, and it's just a penalty? Simon Shaw was red-carded for that a few years ago. And then a clothsline from Pieterson that would make Stone Cold Steve Austin proud, and he got away scot free? Outrageous. They must have diplomatic immunity or something.

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Kearney for tests November 29, 2009 12:44 am

And why did McCaw get player of the year? He wasn't there for most of it and as someone said already i think, he was completely outplayed by Brussow when they played against each other. Why was he even on the shortlist? It should have been a shortlist of just O'Driscoll and Du Preez. I don't think this award can be taken seriously anymore.

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Anonymous November 29, 2009 12:49 am

FDP player of year??? Rubbish all he does is kick....

Nice to see the South Affs using fatigue as a an excuse. Do you think the Lions were fatigued in SA after a long season? They didn't use that excuse and they had to play the 2nd test at altitude as well (an advanatge that should be banned)

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Anonymous November 29, 2009 12:53 am

Mcgaw player of the year is a joke. what he do give the panel a bit of a cuddle?! Surely du preez or O'driscoll were better? And what did the ABs really achieve this year apart from getting humped a few times by the boks, Bekker's knee was awful. That needs a ban. Owens was poor he kept time after time warning the boks but never went to his pocket

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Vic November 29, 2009 12:56 am

Im sorry i couldnt help myself...these were the comments that stood out which were made by (what i imagine are) bok fans in the preview video:

'Anonymous said...
Ah, the sweet, sweet smell of revenge. Springboks by 40. Matfield will once again dominate that big spud, O'Connell'


' Anonymous said...
Who is this GREAT Ireland team, first time ive heard of them.'


't-tank said...
ireland will get owned !
sexton is going to look like an under 15 player compared to m.steyn.
they should have put o'gara in.
SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE !'

Thought you'd all appreciate them!

And a comment from someone else (irish fan?) that caused me to nearly piss myself!!!:

'Anonymous said...
Morne Steyn is only good at kicking, nothing else really.'

Anyway....Awesome, just truly awesome....

actually, personally i think its sad, the only reason most people are getting enjoyment out of when the boks lose is because of their fans and coach! if those two factors werent such cocks i think everyone would concentrate more on the game!

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Anonymous November 29, 2009 1:49 am

To be honest, both sides played shite rugby. Ireland was lucky to win in the end. The real rugby happened later, between France and NZ

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Anonymous November 29, 2009 1:54 am

To be honest....i doubt you watched the game...

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Huh!! the 3rd November 29, 2009 2:14 am

Vic, you took the copy and paste right out of my mouth.

I like M Steyn, seems like a good solid bloke, but I've been biting my tongue on this for a while and now I have my opportunity, especially with Saffas claiming he's the messiah. Other than his immense kicking ability (which has let him down big time today, that missed drop was glorious), he doesn't have a passing, running or even a kicking out of hand game. Say what you will about O'Gara, but he is still one of the best passers and tactical kickers in the world, and after Carter and Giteau has the 3rd best try scoring record for a 10 still playing.

I've never seen Matfield owned as much as in Croker, and Jon Smit is on borrowed time. Ok du Plessis had a slight injury, but even at 50% I'd take him over Smit at 2.

Had SA opened up like they did in the last 5 min at any time earlier they would've won, why have a great backline and not use them? I don't recall Fourie getting the ball once.

Finally, Burger had an outstanding game and gave Brusseuw a reminder he ain't going nowhere, and I wish O'Driscoll were 10 years younger, what a game. Sexton did what was asked of him, it would've been nice if he'd gotten that first miss pen and not given me a heart attack in the last 5.

ABs showed why they'll be the team next year, and hopefully France play like that against Ire 2nd Sat in Feb.

Overall, 2009 will read played 10, won 9, drew 1 and no losses. Not bad, not bad at all.

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Mark November 29, 2009 2:55 am

well done ireland!congrats on a fantastic season!
i'm gonna be humble in victory here.SA were clearly tired and didn't show a single bit of intensity at the breakdown,which is usually their best attribute.i'd really like to see ireland play them when both teams are on form,cos this irish side has come nowhere near playing their best rugby either.despite the great results this season the rugby hasn't been that good.we need a better scrumhalf and a more solid platform for him to unlesh the backs.i'm not happy with o'leary at all.he has moments of brilliance,but today he gave away the ball about eight times through running into contact and pathetic unnecessary box kicking and that's just not good enough.

that said as long as BOD keeps playing we'll be fine!the man just keeps getting better and better!an absolute legend of the sport

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Anonymous November 29, 2009 2:59 am

ireland need stringer back again....the guy is small, annoying, fiery, aggressive, quick so basically everything a scrum half should be.

I've got to say a lot of people dont like him but i think he is a great player, fights well above his weight (or at least tries to!) and is aggressive as hell....he was always bloody quick at securing the ball!

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DrownMccaw November 29, 2009 3:03 am

Richie McCHEAT player of the year is a fucking joke!

The mans a cunt and a disgrace to rugby. Im a big fan of the AB's i enjoy watching them play but that fucking wanker is a cheating cunt!

I hope another Tuqiri comes along and drops him on his head again but this time make sure you get the job done!

Player of the year 2009

Elsom or Broussow (soz if i spelt it wrong)

from a NH Perspective btw

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Anonymous November 29, 2009 3:18 am

Yeh, thanks for giving NH fans a bad rep!

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Anonymous November 29, 2009 3:52 am

You didn't hear McCaw whinge long and loud after that. I guess he's just that little bit tougher. BoD could take some lessons.

FdP has kicked the ball all year long in a hugely effective yet mind numbingly boring one dimensional Springbok team that has been badly shown up at the end of the season, not a vintage year for him. Bok are looking more and more like England in disguise.

What they are doing to the talent in their backline is nothing short of disgraceful. Habana turned into nothing more than a kick chaser. PdV was all noise when he said he was going to revolutionise Bok rugby, all hes done is dragged the SH down, and for what? A half baked season where they couldnt finish off. The supposedly biggest, toughest, strongest players in the world all got a bit tired. Team of the year, what a sick joke.

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Anonymous November 29, 2009 5:24 am

You'll hear people whine about McCaw until the sun goes down but you'll realise they never do anything about it: like lodging a formal complaint to IRB.

You know, like losers who berate the government but don't vote.

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Hugh November 29, 2009 6:47 am

why are rugby fans such assholes? I mean it, I'm sorry if this seems unnecessarily provocative but really, I sift through the same bullshit every week: Southern Hemisphere trumpeters (yeah we're aware that you guys have the edge,stop blowing it in everyone's faces, graciousness?), gloating Northern Hemisphere fans upon a victory (have you not learned anything from the arrogance of the other lads?) and all other bullshit in between. Seriously, look at the commenters above, how many could you sit down and have a drink with? What is with people? Stop being arses and learn to respect others, rugby is a fantastic sport dominated by gentlemen who respect their others, learn a thing of two.

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Anonymous November 29, 2009 8:57 am

Hugh, you sound like the only grownup on this page, Good man, good comment.

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Anonymous November 29, 2009 9:15 am

you see thats the problem with rugby in recent years people are tanking up so much that everyone makes a tackle 9 times out of 10 so teams are resulting inkicking
nobody likes paying money to watch kick tennis something needs to be done be carnt think what ?

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Richie November 29, 2009 10:12 am

As an Irish fan, I'm obviously delighted. I thought everyone of our players stood up today, specifically Johnny Sexton.

A few decisions by the Boks puzzled me though. First was the fact that they repeatedly kicked to Kearney. He is IMO the best fielding Fullback in the game now and surely they would have known that from the Lions.

Secondly was the fact that Smit was moved back to prop. When that happened our scrum was able to cope, not destroy or anything but remain solid where was were getting hammered before that.

I think Smit, great captain that he is either has to be cut loose or played at hooker only, what are the South African fans' views on this?

Also, fellow Irish fans let's remember to be gracious in victory, regardless of what was said before the match.

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WhoooSexton'sOnFiiir November 29, 2009 10:53 am

Deeply...... Deeply.......Deeply.....satisfying.

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RD November 29, 2009 11:16 am

Hugh, you summed up my thoughts perfectly. Well said.

Also, don't judge a nation by a handful of bad comments. A few shitty comments by Irish or South African fans is certainly no reflection of every fan from those countries.

Lets try keep things positive on here folks. A lot of hard work is put into this website - lets enjoy the fact that we can interact with fans from all over the world while enjoying quality rugby clips. Cheers, and congrats to Ireland on a great win.

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RD November 29, 2009 11:22 am

Also, if you'd like to get involved in the discussion, please follow the commenting guidelines. Using a name on your comment is a requirement. Thanks

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Bamberio November 29, 2009 11:26 am

Congratulations to Ireland. It was a good game and a well deserved victory. Jonny Sexton and Rob Kearney were both impressive, BOD had a very quiet game but still popped up with the crucial tackle at the end, Ireland's scrum settled after an early annihilation and I was pleased to see Ireland run the ball more than they kicked it.

I'm also really happy that Declan Kidney was given the IRB coach of the year award. Thoroughly deserved as Ireland have remained unbeaten throughout 2009 and clinched the Grand Slam along the way.

All in all a perfect end to the year for them. Just a shame BOD didn't get the Player of the Year award as I thought he should.... And before you say it I'm an English fan so I'm not biased!

http://studsonthe22.blogspot.com/

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Anonymous November 29, 2009 12:01 pm

"Jennings was found guilty of it, and was suspended. Same as Burger. Therefore, he's just as much of an eye gouger, sorry."

And OJ Simpson was found innocent... so he's as much a murderer as you or I. Sorry, being found guilty doesn't make it true.

And hand on face is not the same as fingers in the eye. And he was found guilty of putting his hand in the facial area (some specific rule for that), not for gouging. Get your facts right.

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Anonymous November 29, 2009 12:12 pm

Reading all these comments makes tierry Henry my hero.

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Mr P November 29, 2009 12:15 pm

Did anyone notice that Ireland gave South Africa a guard of honour at the end and the south africans didnt reciprocate. Bad sportsmanship in my opinion

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Ireland for WC 2011 November 29, 2009 12:33 pm

@mr p

its usually only the home team who form a "tunnel",the away team does not have to return the favour.not really disrespectful

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Dave November 29, 2009 12:37 pm

Anonymous (use a name already mr coward?), burger was found guilty of the exact same thing mate. 'Making contact with the eye area'.

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Anonymous November 29, 2009 12:46 pm

Dave, don't kid yourself. From watching the replays you could clearly see Burger had two fingers in fitzy's eyes and was pulling them upwards. On the Jennings replay you can't see anything. There are obviously different degrees of seriousness to a crime.

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Dave November 29, 2009 12:53 pm

Anonymous (once again), while it looked pretty bad from the camera angle, you certainly could not CLEARLY see two fingers in 'fitzys' eyes. The fact that you use the term fitzy shows that you viewed it emotionally, not rationally.

Yes he should have been punished, and yes some crimes are worse than others, but at the end of the day quinlan and jennings both commited the same crime. if burger pushed a little harder at the time or not, each player had the same 'intent'. Although I feel that out of all three, jennings and burger were clumsy/careless, whereas quinlan looked more deliberate.

do munster boo jennings? do leinster boo quinlan? should NZ boo parisse?

They've served their time, let it go people.

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Third Centre November 29, 2009 1:21 pm

To be fair as bad and as arrogant as some of the SA contributions on this have been (and how great it was to shut them up). The majority of south africans i've met in dublin over the week have been really sound, knowledgeable of the irish team and respectful. It's terrible that their online compatriots dn't show the same respect.

Elsom and Brussow weren't even nominated yet Tom Croft was for player of the year. So maybe that explains the thinking behind those who gave the award to McCaw. An absolute disgrace.

Well done to South Africa for winning team of the year though! Most definitely deserved.

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francisco November 29, 2009 1:51 pm

The UK teams are not very good at scoring try's.

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HN November 29, 2009 2:07 pm

How pissed off would you have been with a top row seat? Couldn't have seen fuck all.

Great game, but something does have to be done to decrease the amount of kicking. Although the ABs showed that you can win without it, I feel something still needs to change. The idea of increasing where you can take a mark up to your own 10m line seems the best. This would stop pointless kicks without a decent chase.

Also, we all know that you Bokke that can speak Afrikaans (which a Netherlander once described to me as 'Pissed retards arguing') can also speak english. This is an english website, and even the French make an effort to fit in. If your comments are sensible, we'll listen, but I'm guessing you're using Afrikaans to continue your own little circle jerk about how the Saffers are the greatest thing since Barry John, and you'd win every match, if only PdV would pick the good ol' white boys.

And whoever thinks Earls is a better player than Habana (even with that Mo) needs their eyes checking.

Great match from both teams

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Anonymous November 29, 2009 2:17 pm

Dear northern hemisphere,

Please use the upcoming 6 nations to work on scoring tries. This is when the ball carrier is able to ground the ball on or behind the big white line the goal posts are on. Many regards, the Rugby Gods.

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Anonymous November 29, 2009 2:29 pm

Haha good comment.But keep it quiete, they dont know you are aloud to score tries.

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Anonymous November 29, 2009 2:32 pm

The Afrikaans comments suggest that the Ireland team is peaking to soon, Please dont rip our language,Its just not on mates. Its just not rugby, Rugby is played in all languages, not just english.

Well played Ireland, you deserved the win, nu excusses.

WGMDelko

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themull November 29, 2009 2:47 pm

To anon few comments above...

In respose, I say SA use this years upcoming tri nations to get ur fat ass forwards back fromm off side stopping us scoring our tries.....Look at the video after Bowes break ( and pieterson's swinging arm to the head) two SA forwards clearly get in the way of a run in try for the Irish....


For anyone to comment on here and incinuate that SA tried to score more tries and play more attractive rugby than Ireland either did not see the game or is just an idiot...Either way you need to keep it shut because it was clear that Ireland played the better and more attractive rugby yesterday...the team ran it from most areas including sometimes inside their own 22..While SA were content to keep kicking the ball down Kearny's throat...

Oh and grow a pair and put a name on ur comment....

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themull November 29, 2009 2:52 pm

yeah, the same way i do when i rant! cause my names themull!!!... tool

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Anonymous November 29, 2009 3:07 pm

What is up with the weather? was it really that misty? sorry but I am in the humid tropics so only weather i know is sunny and rainy

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themull November 29, 2009 3:08 pm

Wow way to go...

You sure embarassed me....

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Anonymous November 29, 2009 3:14 pm

South Africa are sooo boring. They make England look like they're playing sevens. They were lucky to beat the Lions too. NZ are the best team in the world.

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Ireland for WC 2011 November 29, 2009 3:15 pm

ireland were the only team trying to play rugby,anyone who says otherwise is a retard.

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Anonymous November 29, 2009 3:17 pm

i retarded ya mum

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MCB November 29, 2009 3:47 pm

In response to the anonymous comment above about NH teams not scoring tries its worth noting that Ireland match with SA was the 1st match in a year where they didnt score a try. That's 10 matches.

Think Paul O'Connell deserves a mention. Was immense at the breakdown and in the lineout

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Paddy Irish Man November 29, 2009 3:49 pm

Best team won.
As for all this nonsense, slagging each other off over language etc. Try and keep it to the fact that most Bok supporters on here are whineing, crying, bad tempered sore losers. Ireland bossed you around the park today, forcing you to conceed penalty after penalty, you couldn't compete after the first 20 mins, you're weak. The only time you saw the ball was when you got to kick off after Sexton punished your repeated indiscipline.
To sum up, South Africa Autum internationals; Played 5 won 1.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

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Steve November 29, 2009 4:44 pm

@Anonymous - cabezota, si quiere hablar en afrikaans, este es su derecho... los dias de Franco se fueron, y ahora todos nosotros podemos usar las lenguas q gueremos...

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Steve November 29, 2009 4:52 pm

I have to be honest, Im really dissapointed with the level of debate on this forum... U guys seem to hate South Africans, I dont really understand why - all the south african comments ive read here were mainly congratulatory. And so what if guys wish to speak in their home language, since when was rugby and English only sport?

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Eoghan November 29, 2009 5:00 pm

Ireland beat what was in front of them - very satisfying.

I thought SA were extremely disappointing, as did the SA supporters sitting beside me - no ambition, kicked more ball away than any good never mind elite side should, especially when you look at how Kearney in particular was dealing with the high stuff. They never looked like scoring a try in the second half until the last 5 or 6 minutes of pressure and came up deservedly short.

Ireland should have scored at least one if not two tries based on time in the red zone - we have to take those situations and turn them into major scores consistently to make the next step.

I thought Owens had a pretty good game all told apart from not giving penalty and yellow to KP Pieterson for the tackle on Bowe - clearly high, and there had been a warning for foul play. Can't understand how he missed this - on the ref link he said to O'Driscoll that Bowe ducked into it which just wasn't the case. The reason he didn't penalise off-side when the ball went left after the tackle was because there had not been a ruck or mall - you can see Irish players arriving but no SA player is in contact at the breakdown so that's just open play, no offside possible.

(re use of Afrikaans on the board...its perfectly understandable that anyone would want to communicate using their own language Steve. However, if you were part of a group having a conversation and persisted in using a language which only a small minority understood, although you yourself could quite easily choose to use a universal language, would that not be considered rude ? If you are aware that this is basically an english language forum and persist in refusing to use english then you're not trying to communicate at all)

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Steve November 29, 2009 5:17 pm

@ Eoghan, Dissapointed with the tactics as well - thought that the springboks had the complete wrong strategy and were trying to play a style of rugby that doesnt work in the northern hemisphere. Irish knew what they were going to do and combatted it extremely well . their homework payed off!

There three afrikaans comments right at the beginning, before the conversation had started. So you cant compare it to a conversation - and know i dont consider using my home language rude..

If you are interested.. 1st coment was that Ireland may be peaking too early before the world cup, like other teams have done in the past ... 2nd comment was - watch how everybody is going to get pissed off that there are afrikaans comments ... 3rd comment was - at the guy speaking spanish say he has the right to speak whatever language he wants

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FrankyH November 29, 2009 5:22 pm

It's really easy to see the difference in class between people that comment on here. Eoghan for example, is a good man. No need for childish insults and honest about both his team and the opposition.

I disagree with one thing though Eoghan, I dont think that you were close to scoring a try at any point in the match. Close to the line perhaps, but Ireland never looked truly threatening.

Lets not forget that Steyn had a freakishly bad day with the boot. Had he been his normal self, SA would have cruised to the win. He missed something like, 12 points through kicks? Not to mention the momentum and impetus that would have given SA.

No point talking about IFS and BUTS though. We lost, and we lost in a poor manner too - not turning up to play. The only highlights were scoring the only try of the match, and dominating the scrums.

That kicking game has got to go. Bring back Butch.

It was also obvious what a difference the loss of Juan Smith and Bakkies Botha makes to the side, and I thought that Kirchner was less than average. Jantjies is supposedly the first choice #15, but at this stage I'd rather have Francois Steyn there.

Regarding Afrikaans, the guy didn't say anything bad towards Ireland anyway. I've seen the occasional french/spanish comment on here before. Dont take life so seriously. And making fun of it is pretty poor too.

Anyway - great win for Ireland. They've shown that its no walk in the park playing them in Dublin. Croke Park also looks fantastic. The silence when Sexton (wunderkind?) was kicking was eery, in a good way.

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Paddy Irish Man November 29, 2009 5:24 pm

I don't hate South Africans, I have several friends who originate from there, and they're bad tempered whingers as well!! I enjoy a few drinks with those guys and the slagging that came with the Lions tour. Now it's my turn, and I'm loving it!!!

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BoomShaka November 29, 2009 5:26 pm

Well played to Ireland, they did what they needed to do - which is kick their points.

At least the Boks scored the only try of the game, but other than that, a pretty poor performance.

It's always annoying when the opposition win from all the penalties you gave away, and not scoring well worked tries. That said, the Irish pressure forced the Boks into most of their mistakes.

SA looked far more menacing with JdV in midfield. I fear F. Steyn and JdV will be sorely missed.

Anyway, the Irish deserved the win, well done. And ye, Kearney certainly looks like the worlds top fullback, or at least in the top 3.

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FrankyH November 29, 2009 5:28 pm

Oh and as if my comment wasn't long enough before..
Did anyone see Keith Wood (prematch) saying that he wonders if SA are successful post Jake White because of PDV, or in spite of him? Pretty funny.. and a very good question. I often wonder about the same thing myself.

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Steve November 29, 2009 5:39 pm

@Franky H - I think it that question seems to be all the rage right now in South Africa, but to be fair a question like that is not really fair to a guy who has had a great record.

PDV is responsible for new players that White didnt have - some of the best players - Beast, Brussow, Steyn etc werent part of Whites squad... In fact White once said the only fetcher he wants around him is his son fetching the beers.

PDV had a lot of success before coaching the boks and his pre springbok credentials were just as good as Whites, winning world cups with the South African junior teams... His main fault is that he isnt a good speaker and he always backs his players even if they are at fault...

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Anonymous November 29, 2009 5:55 pm

Do you guys feel, as I do that there is no reason for Burger to kick a ball into the stands? I consider it unsportsmanlike.

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Anonymous November 29, 2009 6:12 pm

hmmm this goes back to the scotland game can you say SA won because they scored the only try? no you cant

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Anonymous November 29, 2009 6:28 pm

Everyime FDP gets it he kicks an up and under.

If that qualifies you for Player of the Year there would be alot of candidates.

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Jacques November 29, 2009 6:37 pm

To Andy - I couldnt agree more. theres a time to play a kicking game and there is a time not to. And we just kicked every inch of posession away to Ireland. Extremely poor tactical play and poor execution from SA.

If you look at the year behind us I would still say SA were the better team this year and thats confirmed by the IRB but we may just be on a vicious downturn. Next year will be very telling.

For Irish supporters to be crowing that theyre a better team than SA is a bit misguided. Not taking anything away from ireland and perhaps at this exact moment they are, but taking the year into consideration I would have to say absolutely not.

Well done to Ireland. Good play all round, but also far from excellent. Ireland messed up many opportunities on the attack.

All in perspective gents.

But basically the Boks were super poor and looked absolutely clueless on the day. Ditto against France. To say were unhappy as Bok supporters is an understatement.

Ireland were the better team by far on the day.

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Donkey Punch November 29, 2009 6:42 pm

Ireland went out to play rugby, the springbok's cheated their way throughout the game, their overall attitude was evident in Burger's try celebration and the dropped knee on wallace's head, if the ref had any pair of balls their would have been cards shown for continual cynical play by SA, don't go on about not scoring tries we scored five separate times in the match and SA only scored twice, failing to score in the second half, look at all the stats in the game and ireland dominate in every facet bar the scrum, the best team won on the day and now the only international top teir of the professional era to ever go 12 months without losing a match, come on ta fuck!

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miguel November 29, 2009 6:59 pm

not that i feel it was a pivotal moment but the stuff with habana and his mark was all bull.

habana was taken in the air after calling his mark. it should have been a penalty as it was technically in the air. after that a bit cynical by habana trying to to milk a penalty by running into the prop, but after that he hadnt retreated enough and habana hadnt advanced enough to legally make the challenge

just like steyns tackle on o'driscol. not deadly nothing to yell cry or whine about but still a penalty.

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miguel November 29, 2009 7:02 pm

also in the interest of balance, im very suprised to not see bekker get a yellow card for that. there was no way it was accidental. done after the player was out of the ruck very cynical.

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Anonymous November 29, 2009 7:34 pm

Who controls the tactical direction of the Boks? They looked good for the first 7 minutes and the last 5 when they ran the bqll through the phases. Scoring and then nearly scoring again at the end. So why oh why did they kick everything in between? Is Morne Steyn just completely brainless? Same goes for FDP at 9 who just kicks all the time. The Boks deserved to lose.

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Andrew November 29, 2009 8:10 pm

What can I say about the game that hasn't been said already.....
Ireland good game and congrats on the win, you knew our game and exploited our weaknesses. South Africa needs to look at a different type of game, kicking away possesion is pointless, you cant score if you don't have the ball. I must say I was not impressed with the ref he missed alot of dirty play from both teams. Yes rugby is a physical game but dirty play is dirty play, Once again congrats Ireland. See you again in South Africa, hope you bring it.

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No.7 November 29, 2009 8:38 pm

I think the main cry from any and every rugby fan is consistency....

Shaw dropped a knee on an NZ player a few years back, that was an instant red. Bekker, does it and gets a talking to.

Palu does a nice hit and gets yellow, lamont does a pretty similar one and gets nothing.

Botha clears out adam jones and gets cited and banned.....a scottish player drove into palu (in what i recall as a similar technique) an gets nothing.

there are many many more incidents both acting on teams in all areas of the world and different punishments are dished out by technically the same people....

i am aware there is previous records to take into account and all sorts but some consistency is needed really.

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Anonymous November 29, 2009 9:16 pm

I think that one of Irelands players on the bench should ref their games,Ther couch and fitness couch as touch officials.There opponents should start every game on a warning also. Just to stop them from bitching the hole bloody time.

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boomshanka November 29, 2009 9:39 pm

IRB team of the year ... Wha ???

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Anonymous November 29, 2009 9:49 pm

SO ireland won big deal!!! facts still are you lot have NEVER even made it into a rwc semi let alone a final!!! NOSOTROS SOMOS DOS VECES CAMPIONES DEL MUNDO DOS VECES Y GANAMOS CONTRA LOS LIONS Y LOS TRES NACIONES Y VOSOTROS NI NADA, ONS IS ELKGEVAL DIE BESTE SPAN EN WERELD RUGBY NIE IN "FRIENDLYS"NIE MAAR EN DIE GROOT OOMBLIKS.
ireland as usual peak at the wrong moment and will continue to be also rans at evry WORLD CUP.

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Donkey Punch November 29, 2009 9:49 pm

I don't see how having an inanimate object like a couch being in charge of a rugby match would help anyone to be honest

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Anonymous November 29, 2009 9:59 pm

I wish people would stop letting hysterical emotion undermine their interpretation of others' comments and their ability to judge things with common sense, it's a really worrying trend, not just on forums like these but in everyday life as well - reason is slowly being replaced with knee-jerk emotional reactions...

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Anonymous November 29, 2009 10:13 pm

Boring game.
Two very conservative teams trying to out-conservative each other.
Paddy kicks the ball to Andre, Andre back to Seamus, who kicks it back to Pierre, and so one.
Eventually the ref intercedes with a penalty.
Boring.

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No.7 November 29, 2009 10:31 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHA DONKEY PUNCH YOU F*CKING CRACKED ME UP!!!!! I read his comment and just realised he was crap at spelling so unfortunately missed the hysterical side of it!!!

RD can we get a trophy for donkey punch please!!!

LOL!!!

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Huh!! the 3rd November 29, 2009 11:25 pm

To Anon Saffa, this game had nothing to do with the WC. This was a Test game of Rugby in the middle of the cycle. To counter what you're saying then, a team who has only made the 1/4 finals at most has beaten the WC champions and 'the greatest Springbok team ever'. I don't agree with that, SA were missing key players, most notably, Smith (best flanker in the game) and Botha (who Matfield needs badly).

Its something that people outside Ireland may not know, but the IRFU was the biggest opponent of introducing the World Cup in the 80s. It felt that it would lead to professionalism which it did (about the only thing the IRFU got right for years). It was only when Gordon Hamilton scored that try against Australia in '91 that the IRFU copped on.

Unfortunately for us, the introduction of the WC coincided with the worst and most barren period in Irish rugby's history. So, we as Ireland fans will take the odd win over SA (3 in a row now), drawing with Aus (who may be the worst in the SH, but are still the 3rd best team presently) and pushing NZ close (I think we may do it in June when NZ won't have played since France, and their S14 teams will be in play offs) after the last 24 years of shit.

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Bill November 29, 2009 11:56 pm

Sorry 'Huh' but Ireland opposed the World Cup, actually voted against it when it was proposed back in the 80s.
It was inf act Australia who pushed hardest (for decades) for the World Cup to be introduced, with NZ a strong supporter and France also very enthusiastic.
It was these three countries that pushed the IRB to impliment it.
South Africa then made the important decision to support it, which swayed England and Wales (who, like all the home nations, opposed the idea to that point) to also vote in favour.
Ireland even then voted against it, but was in the minority.

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Bill November 30, 2009 12:02 am

Wow, I just realised I completely misread what you wrote, Huh.
You in fact said exactly what I repeated, I apologise.

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Lorcan November 30, 2009 12:09 am

Just had a good chat with the saffa foreman on my job, we both agreed it wasn't the strongest SA team of the year, we also agreed there is more to come from Ireland. I'll take the win for now, and the slab of beer from him.
Don't take notice of fans who give Irish or South Africans a bad rep on these forums, neither set of fans are properly represented on here when the nonsense starts.

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Feargal November 30, 2009 12:11 am

We were in the '91 RWC semi final against Aus. And nearly won only for Campo.

N bheith n den srt sin a sore fear caillte na himeartha. Agus stad clscrobh i gceannlitreacha. Agus conas a bhaint amach asca a fhil amach cad ar lne a scrobhann t.

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No.7 November 30, 2009 12:34 am

I do sort of get bored of this 'it wasnt the strongest _______ team we have' (insert team name!)

really im sorry, it is pretty damn rare (if not impossible) that you end up with 2 'strongest teams' playing each other.....

in any case you always end up with one player having a bollocks day....

i mean look at Eng in the 2003 wc, they had a pretty good team, and how are they doing since? players retired, players got raped (injury wise)....so really the only thing that will solve any debates is the rocky balboa type machine thing, that will take the best of any country and play it against another 'best'

I just think you have to accept what you have.......

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Keith_Percy12 November 30, 2009 12:59 am

Firstly i am Irish and obviously very proud of the teams performance over the past year. both our top national team and the Ireland A squads not beaten once in 12 months, head coach Deccie gets the award and i think Bod should have got world player of the year and he would have if Adidas 'who sponsored the award and the all blacks' weren't involved.
I have seen the rugby dump watchdog delete one comment by anonymous which depicted the reasons why south Africa failed to beat the Irish perfectly and to the point respectively. this blogger stated four reasons for the south African failure as follows;
1: Peter de Villiers tactics. 'come on Rob Kearney just does not know how to drop a ball'
2:John smit,s sheer laziness at ruck time. Captain fantastic?
3:they let Francois Steyn go.
4:"""""""" Jean De Villiers go

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Anonymous November 30, 2009 1:56 am

Nigel Owen is an idiot.
Habana was hit in the air and the Irish prop was in the way.

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Anonymous November 30, 2009 2:01 am

Rubbish game to watch.
kick, kick, penalty, kick, kick, penalty.
Boring.

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flapjack November 30, 2009 5:45 am

Sometimes, when I think PdV isn't crazy enough.......

...taking off Steyn for Ruan Pienaar? Really? I get that Steyn had a really bad game (after a series of sort 'off' games during these autumn internationals), but I'd still let him finish rather than bringing on Pienaar...every time he kicks, he looks like a deer in headlights.

Great game, though! The fog definitely made it seem more dramatic.

All I was thinking the last 15 minutes was:

"Morne Steyn 31 - All Blacks 19
well, Jonathan Sexton 15 - South Africa 10"

I am glad Declan Kidney is a better man than I am...I'll be the first to eat my words when I said Sexton was too inexperienced to stick in as first choice...ho-ly shit, the kid's got nerves of steel. I've always figured he was a cock (especially during that Leicester-Munster match-up when he got in O'Gara's face like a tool), but I guess that can be quickly overlooked for how good he is!

Great game, indeed! Way to go Ireland!! Tough way to go out for SA...at least they've accomplished a lot this year, anyways. They're still, on a good day, probably the most formidable side in international rugby. Ireland just happened to run them down!

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flapjack November 30, 2009 5:51 am

"Nigel Owen is an idiot.
Habana was hit in the air and the Irish prop was in the way."

And the tackle by Pietersen wasn't high? (just know that it was a penalty opportunity that would've been easier to score points from than the one where Habana ran into Cian Healy). And just before that, at least two SA players weren't offsides and made the tackle anyways?

I'll agree that it was a shame to see Owens give a forced (and probably conscience-based/wrong decision) forward-pass call, but don't act like that Owens wasn't 99% fair and accurate in his calls. I think my favorite line was him reprimanding Earls, "There are two ways for you to fall, and you chose the wrong one...roll away."

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TheRealSlimShady November 30, 2009 5:52 am

All i can say is Kearney.. The ol Gaelic helped ya son.. Some player

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fupa chalupa November 30, 2009 6:52 am

Does anyone know the official reason for the penalty given that ended the game? I've watched it about a half-dozen times and still can't see why Owens gave it away so quickly...I dunno if he was just compensating for a couple of missed calls or wanted to end it early?

I was pacing around waiting for Ireland to win it back and win the match, but I felt a little cheated by a false penalty, if that's in fact what it was...it seemed like Owens was pinging Rossouw for going off his feet to seal off the ball from D'Arcy getting at it...but it didn't look that punishable to me.

Any one see why exactly Ireland got a penalty?

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Anonymous November 30, 2009 7:13 am

Did he hold onto it? You can see him putting it backwards initially but then an Irish player steps over the top and I don't know what happened the ball then, did he hold it back into him?

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fupa chalupa November 30, 2009 7:23 am

I don't know...he gave the penalty as Flannery arrived - so I don't think it was 'holding on' since Flannery was the only one digging for the ball (would've been illegal anyways, as the ruck had formed), and D'Arcy, who was the first one in there going in over the ruck was tossed aside, so he didn't make any concerted effort to nab at it....and Owens points at Rossouw, as if to say he did something wrong, but all I'm saying is if he is penalizing Rossouw, I think he did so prematurely or even totally incorrectly.......

Anyways, I think both sides were tiring and SA weren't within the points for some miracle Nick Evans Harlequin-winning drop goal, and Ireland probably would've turned it over anyways, but it didn't seem like THAT particular penalty was right.

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Anonymous November 30, 2009 7:51 am

Owen is a retard, and blows his whistle all the time for nothing, while letting other stuff go.

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Anonymous November 30, 2009 9:06 am

Watch out. Ireland is gonna win the next world cup. NOT!!!

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Kearney for tests November 30, 2009 12:08 pm

Fupa chalupa I think you're right in your assessment of that penalty. All the Irish players were piling in to the ruck and Rossouw who had been on his feet just dropped to his knees to seal off the ball. I think it's fairly straightforward to give a penalty for that.

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doos November 30, 2009 12:17 pm

well done to Ireland for beating the springboks. Don't think they desrved it considering they didn't score a try and SA duffed 12 points at goal. so a bit lucky I think.

SA still had a far more successful year. Tri nations plus Lions tour win. IRB team of they year

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Anonymous November 30, 2009 12:19 pm

I speak spanish but i wirte here in english so you can understand , i dont hate south african and am a avid supporter of Argentina becoming member of tir or 6 nations but have found this bias towards spanish speaking countries playing spanish , so sorry to have offened anyone who speaks Afrikaans but please post the translation , I am a true rugby fan and apologise for what i said earlier

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TheScarletBeast November 30, 2009 12:50 pm

Congratulations to Ierland on the win. I would like to make excusses for the "Sprinbboks" but there realy arent any, other than the fact that our choach is forced to make "political" selections in the team. Adi Jacobs is one example I think he would even tell you he doesnt belong in the team. I know he didnt play this game but consider the fact that he took the space of a better player that could have formed a partnership with J Fourie and played beter than they did the last game. The coach doesnt seem to have a backup plan either. He should have started bleeding younger players sooner, but I guess its easy working of the success of a previous coach.

To Huh the 3rd The Saffas that claim Morne Steyn to be the messiah must be Bulls supporters they like that style of play made famous by Naas Botha or the english rugby team. Thats propably why W Olivier played so crap not used to getting the ball. Which brings me to another point Pieter De Villiers compaired Ruan Pienaar to Matt Giteau and then went and replaced him with Morne Steyn after one good season. If Pienaar is that good in his book why drop him for Steyn.

IMO quite childish to leave comments in afrikaans on a english website. Thats said Feargal you butcher us for the way we play or arogance, but please dont butcher my language like that. Im proudly Afrikaans as you can tell by my spelling.

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TheScarletBeast November 30, 2009 12:57 pm

sorry ment to say "Springboks"

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Anonymous November 30, 2009 2:45 pm

I'm Irish and a ref and I thought Owens had a poor game, full of himself throughout, and should have punished the SA for the high tackle Y and the knee Y. Just watch alain rolland in marsaille and how he interacted with the players. Owens took away from the spectacle and had no appreciation for continuity of play. He is an excellent referee usually but I was very disappointed on Saturday.
In saying that rolland let mc caw away with murder.....again!

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No.7 November 30, 2009 3:29 pm

yeh fupa it was cos russouw just dropped to his knees, if he had his knees of the ground i believe it would have been fine...

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Gavin November 30, 2009 3:33 pm

Hi folks. Speaking as an Irish fan, I was of course delighted that we won. However, I (like 99% of Irish rugby fans) of course realise that this does not mean we are in the same league as the SANZAR nations. We'll need 20 years of improvement to get there - unfortunately due to our tiny population and the fact that rugby isn't in the top 3 field sports in the country, we will always be weaker than the bigger nations and those who have rugby as the number 1 game.

I do think that the Bok players were tired at the end of their season, same as the Lions players were earlier in the year. It's not an excuse, it's just a fact of life.

However, we have shown that we can compete with the best, which is something I guess. I just hope we can continue to improve.

Well done to SA on deservedly winning team of the year. On the other hand, McCaw is a brilliant player, but player of the year? Not this year.

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Eoghanh November 30, 2009 3:34 pm

@FrankyH

I take the point about how close Ireland were to scoring a try - I wouldn't class anything we produced as a clear cut opportunity as such, but I was referring to the two protracted periods, one in each half, which we spent hammering at the SA fringe defence very close to the line - those situations have to produce major scores if Ireland are to progress.

As regards the poor day out for SA kickers - true; but not all were straightforward, Sexton also missed two and SA came out ahead on the controversial ref calls (no yellow for knee drop, or for high tackle late on, and not even a penalty which would have been straightforward to convert for the latter) so on balance I think the scoreboard is reflective of what happened on the pitch.

Are Ireland peaking too early ? Well...only time will tell. If we are off the boil again in 2011, the answer will have been yes, but it is clearly not the intention of the coaching staff to do so. I think the peaking too early problems arise much closer to the tournament, if they do (i.e. you come in overworked and short of energy). Otherwise the objective is to keep setting and reaching high standards for yourself.

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Anonymous November 30, 2009 4:46 pm

I've never seen so many people so jubilant at a meaningless victory. Quite sad really. It was a pathetic display by the Boks who frankly beat themselves.

- Leaving 12+ points on the field is not acceptable at this level.
- Constant aimless kicking.
- Poor discipline.
- Shaky lineout in the first 40.

All of that said the Boks scored the only try of the day while Ireland were happy to Rob Andrew their way to a win.

While I am disappointed at this loss I will take any number of losses such as this if it means we get the right personnel (players and coaches) back into the picture to restore Bok pride.

In the mean time I will console myself by reliving world cup wins. You Irish fans should do the same... oh that's right.

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Joe November 30, 2009 4:57 pm

And that's known as delusion, anonymous. Also, you seem to be living in the past. That's fine, I guess. It's cute how you can't seem to give credit to the Irish, though..."the Boks beat themselves" - as if they're the only ones capable of doing so.

Yes, the Boks scored the only try...but if they're soooo good at it, then why didn't they just score another and win the game?

What if I were to say, "Yeah, the U.S. looks pretty bad when they lose all the time...but I will console myself by reliving Olympic gold medals. You SA fans should do the same...oh, that's right."

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Anonymous November 30, 2009 5:07 pm

BOD is gonna be to old in the next world cup, People like Conrad Smith,The French centers, Jaque Fourie. I think they will be to fast for BOD.

Its sad but true.

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No.7 November 30, 2009 5:11 pm

GEEEEZ does anyone else get bored of those ^^^ comments!

in a dumbshit voice 'yeh well we scored a try and you guys didnt...'

let me put this bluntly.....ireland scored from penalties yes? answer: yes!

now penalties come from foul play one way or another....repeat infringments, hands in rucks, offsides, allsorts right? answer: right!!!

soooooo we can simply say as the scoreboard stands that irelands points would be at 0 if not for the penalties....so what does that say? if there werent infringments the boks would have won? answer: as the score board stands yes they would......ITS A HINT!

there is a reason a penalty is called a penalty, ill try and explain so some of you special kids understand.....

A player is part of a team, like a collective family. When that player is naughty he can sometimes be punished by being sin binned. There is also a punishment for being naughty which is called a penalty. Now a penalty is supposed to PUNISH the offending player/team because they were naughty....therefore if the team that gets the penalty decides to try and kick the ball through those upright sticks and over the post (*phew* complicated stuff this!) and are succesful then they recieve 3 points.......

Now....Player A punches Player B in the gob.....penalty...Player B kicks ball through posts, 3 points...now that doesnt exactly sound unfair does it!?!?

In any case if you are so high and godly then what the hell are these non try scoring teams even doing in your half?!?!

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No.7 November 30, 2009 5:14 pm

Ah, i didnt mean the anonymous talking about BOD i meant the other anonymous talking about how the 'boks beat themselves'

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Anonymous November 30, 2009 6:45 pm

SA played so bad and ireland managed to beat them by just 5 points.

Wonder if no.7 is going to comment on this, seeming as hes got nothing to do with his time.

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Anonymous November 30, 2009 7:18 pm

reading all these comments makes me ashamed to be irish.. bad winners.

also to say sexton has earned his place on the irish team is ridiculous, dont get me wrong he was very good considering it was his second test, but definitely needs improvement.

IMO the irsh media are hyping up both healey and sexton beyond their present abilities. both are rising stars but need time. if ROG had been in sextons place and did the same things he would have recieved a 6 in the papers not an eight. and under the same conditions with marcus and healey, marcus would have gotten a 3 at most not a 6.

I believe both will dominate in a couple years, but right now they are just hype

finally burger got boed for booting the ball into crowd not scoreing a try

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Donkey Punch November 30, 2009 7:26 pm

Ireland didn't exactly play out of their skins either dipshit

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Donkey Punch November 30, 2009 7:27 pm

aimed at the anonymus two above

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No.7 November 30, 2009 9:17 pm

lol looks like i dont need to bother commenting...donkey punch just did it for me!

(still think he deserves a medal for the couch gag!)

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themull November 30, 2009 11:11 pm

The couch gag was hilarious alright....

Had me falling around it did....

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Anonymous November 30, 2009 11:39 pm

To the latest anonymous, if you're ashamed to be Irish by all of this, then maybe you should fuck off to Antarctica.

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Gavin November 30, 2009 11:58 pm

Anonymous above me - to be honest, I think we have plenty of better reasons to be ashamed to be Irish. Nobody's perfect, not even us :)

I'm off to Antartica, see the rest of you boys there later.

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Anonymous December 01, 2009 4:50 am

What's this bullshit of accusing Heaslip of gouging? The citing officer says No....
On top of that, SA asked for 3 Irish players to be investigated by the citing officer, for what I have no idea. An hour after that request they reduced the number to 2 Irish players and shortly after that they reduced the number to 1 Irish player. I have no doubt that investigation will be thrown out also.
Who is pulling the strings there and dragging up this bullshit?

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Anonymous December 01, 2009 9:25 am

To add to this...
Ireland did not report anything to the citing officer. It would have been legitimate to report the knee drop incident, legitimate but unnecessary.

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Anonymous December 01, 2009 10:03 am

Ireland cheated. They wore White and organised the Fog. The Boks couldn't see them.

Haha, maybe Im just unhappy that I couldn't see the action from my seat. The bars afterwards were great!! Dublin is wonderful but I'm now skint :(

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Gavin December 01, 2009 11:11 am

Anonymous, we need every advantage we can get against the World and Tri-nations champs! Next time we'll be playing in bright yellow with the sun behind our backs...

Glad you enjoyed Dublin, hope you come back!

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Anonymous December 01, 2009 11:11 am

At firsst I was like fair play for the Irish not asking for some incidents to be cited (knee drop in particular) but after hearing that SA recomended for 3 irish players to be cited and all were found innocent of any wrong doing then I wish Kideny had of asked it to be brought up...

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Shark Attack December 01, 2009 1:58 pm

Well done Ireland you played the better rugby and deserved the win. The simple fact is the bokke had a brutal performance and we have to learn you cannot get away with it against the likes of Ireland. Burger was the only man on the team who lived up to expectations.
Would have loved to see Deysel get a run tho. True Shark amazin season.
BOD for player of the year
PdV is not good for Springbok Rugby
Hats off to Kearney and Drico

Would love a rematch in Loftus

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Anonymous December 01, 2009 2:34 pm

Apart from New Zeeland, South Africa and Australia are in the best posision to win the next world cup. Both Teams play most of their rugby there.(Super 14 and Tri Nations).Other teams would relish the chance to play so much rugby in NZ.We have done it twice and we can do it again, we have players that would walk into any international team. I just hope the players realize that they have a good chance and make playing and winning in New Zeeland a common thing,be it in Tri Nations or Super 14. Thanx

WGMDelko

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Kearney for tests December 01, 2009 4:36 pm

Shark Attack, I'll have a word with Declan Kidney about that rematch the next time I'm talking to him.

However I've never spoken to him before, so don't hold your breath.

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Anonymous December 01, 2009 5:12 pm

I've seen Eddie O'Sullivan around town a couple times here in Colorado. Maybe I can get him to give me Kidney's direct line...since they're so chummy (yeah, right).

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number7 December 01, 2009 7:23 pm

guys the atmosphere at that game was second only to england in croker 2007 ..

really though most SH kickers bottle it in dublin due to the silence and respect they are shown at one stage all that could be heard was a door slam on the street behind hill 16 amazing stuff

ireland played alright were ok in the breakdown and were unlucky to get no more joy good bok defence saw out the game

odriscoll has had a bit of a renesance this year top quaility player ha

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Kearney for tests December 01, 2009 7:32 pm

^Does that 'ha' at the end of your comment mean that you were being sarcastic about Drico?

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Anonymous December 01, 2009 7:40 pm

I heard JW prefers it when its noisy to kick, cos he apparently thinks of the posts as the mouth and he wants to kick the ball in it.....

how true that is i dunno

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number7 December 01, 2009 7:44 pm

no it does not buti along with many believed him to be over the hill after the last wc but really this season he has really proved me wrong

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Huh!! the 3rd December 01, 2009 8:45 pm

shark attack, I'd love it too but for some reason Ireland tour SA less than any other of the big 3. Since rugby went pro in '95 Ireland have toured SA twice, in '98 and 2004, while return matches in Dublin are as rare. To put that into perspective, with no rematch in SA on the cards, since '04 Ireland have toured (probably a misnomer considering they only play tests and not clubsides, although they play the NZ Maori in June) NZ and Australia in '06,'08 and will in 2010.

Ire-SA will be the 1st test in the new Landsdowne Rd next Nov, so that maybe can be dubbed a rematch. The IRFU have asked the SAFU to allow Ireland to wear the green so SA will have to play in their 2nd strip, which is even rarer still.

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Anonymous December 02, 2009 12:51 am

same dirty saffers. speaking in their white supremacist language. did they get the anthem right this time? or is that why you lost....again, 1 out 4, even england are better than you

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Mike Worthington December 02, 2009 5:37 am

Congrats to the irish for winning the game, really deserved it, but...

those who says, "now come all the comments from boks about how south africa are still better than ireland well thats just sore loosers for you hey"

Shouldn't you take it easy ? I mean, come on ! how many games did you played against SA the last years, and this is the first you won that I remember ?
This happens rarely, And it was tight, when the SH teams win against NH teams, they usually ( not always ) do it by a generous distance.
And if that it's not enough look at the world cups, 5 tournaments and 4 won by the SH sides.
I think there is no doubt about wich hemisphere produces the best rugby and the best players.

Cheers.

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Vic December 02, 2009 7:13 am

ummm, wouldnt agree with your comment mike about best rugby and best players....

....but yes i think people shouldnt assume you are always going to be better..

i think most people are trying to get in the 'haha you cocky fans should suck it up' sort of thing...which i reckon is quite deserving.....be gracious in defeat but even more gracious in victory!

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Kearney for tests December 02, 2009 11:42 am

I hate people like Mike Worthington. They insult you but dress it up to make it look like they're actually being nice, so you can't just tell them to piss off or they'll claim that your being unfriendly and unsporting.

And I think Ireland have beaten South Africa three times in a row now.

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Anonymous December 02, 2009 1:04 pm

Of course the SH has the better players and rugby.
They win the majority of games and tournaments.

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Anonymous December 02, 2009 1:39 pm

Mike best players, in recent history probably yes. Best rugby no.

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Anonymous December 02, 2009 6:04 pm

hahahhaha, thanks for hating me Kearney, you are right, I write in a way I could tell you to go the hell and you'd be looking forward to start the trip.
Cheers mate.

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Nonsense Mike December 03, 2009 1:20 am

3 in a row in Dublin Mike. In 06 it was 32-15 to Ireland. No facts Mike, poor argument mate, your head must be firmly lodged up your own hole.

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Mike December 03, 2009 6:09 am

Ok guys, my mistake, big deal, why the hell are you so agressive with your answers ?
3 in a row, great, what about the History between them ? what about the other stuff we talked about ? you seriously think that the NH sides are stronger than SH ? ok, yo are entitled to your opinion, but the facts says that most of the tiems SH sides win the games against NH,,, and the RWC issue ? 4 to 1

Nothing else, keep insulting if that makes you happy.

Cheers

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RedComrad December 03, 2009 11:14 pm

Why would someone come on here and call Afrikaans white supremist language. Show you that some people dont know anything about rugby or other cultures and language but insted look for a "fight" online. Why dont you keep the coments to rugby enjoy Ierlands moment while you can, cause know team stays at the top which the Irish rugby team never was in the first place. Not trying to insult them just saying they can also have injuries to key players and see a good season quickly turn bad.

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Delarey December 04, 2009 12:08 am

Firstly congrats to ireland they realy deserved the win as for their supporters they dont deserve anything. Im afraid this will turn into the irish version of the england football team wining the 1966 world cup. One good result(not beating SA but a decent season) and thats all they seem to go on about for the rest of their lives. The majority of these coments are so whiney you would have thought Ireland lost. Think RD should delete all the coments for this video as the majoraty isnt even about rugby.

As for the coments of dirty saffers, white supremicist language and devil tounge. The irish were counting in afrikaans for the line-out calls(hopefully their use of the language was better than feargals)on Saturday. Which was taught to them by I guess a dirty saffer the irish teams forward coach Gert Small.

HN tell you dutch friend not to hate us for improving that crapy language they speak. Anyway it sounds more like german than dutch.

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:) December 04, 2009 7:11 am

Look, honestly the reason irish fans are being so up themselves is cos SH fans were so up themselves coming into the series....

...if you guys came up (or teams you support) and you guys were just like:

'Im really looking forward to these games, hopefully we'll come out with some great wins and a good bit of rugby! looks like the irish and french might be a challenge....but we'll beat them ;) '

i.e a bit of banter but nothing so 'set in stone' and up for a good bit of rugby, win or lose then this wouldnt happen.

but no, there were comments like 'NH rugby is shit' 'SH wont lose a single match to the NH' and stuff like that. so what do you expect, i mean you set yourselves up, you shot yourself in the foot....lets say SH did win every game, club games and all....you'd still look like a bunch of cocks because you'd still be a cocky bunch of pricks.....had you come up here graciously and won every game, and then gloated, the NH fans would have said 'ahhh well it was a good game and the one vs____ was close, hopefully next year'

e.g RUGBY BANTER!

but instead you act like football supporters who cant appreciate anything that hasnt got your team colours or some shit like that, and when you lose a game or two the NH fans want to make it hurt!

p.s NH fans i think there is a lesson to learn from all of this, sure bring up the last game the two teams played and say, hopefully we can win again cos we won last time (as you are welcome to SH fans) but dont start talking down other teams well before a game!

.....remember this is rugby we are talking about, all it takes is the bounce of the ball....and we know all know a rugby ball can be a b*tch sometimes!!!

.... a less angry post!

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Anonymous December 04, 2009 7:22 am

^ You're so full of it.
The real reason NH supporters are wankers is that they lose so much. It makes them bitter and twisted.

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:) December 04, 2009 8:26 am

^

See....tw*ts like him/her...thats what causes these problem and threads where people are constantly bickering!

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player 23 December 07, 2009 2:42 pm

BRING BACK BUTCH!!

Springboks need to drop the 'england' style of rugby

Ireland showed exactly how to expose the weakness in our 1 dimensional play. We have the like of Jean De Villers, Bryan Habana, Butch James and Jacque Fourie available please lets play some Rugby drop the ariel tennis!

ps. Alot of the above comments here look like the come from football fans on both sides. Rugby is a game of respect and passion (or at least should be). To insult a nation's language is frankly childish.

Ireland played the better game on the day and deservedly won the match. We will be back again in November and hopefully will play some better rugby.

alle voorspoed!

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Jim December 21, 2009 12:44 am

"reading all these comments makes me ashamed to be irish.. bad winners.

also to say sexton has earned his place on the irish team is ridiculous, dont get me wrong he was very good considering it was his second test, but definitely needs improvement.

IMO the irsh media are hyping up both healey and sexton beyond their present abilities. both are rising stars but need time. if ROG had been in sextons place and did the same things he would have recieved a 6 in the papers not an eight. and under the same conditions with marcus and healey, marcus would have gotten a 3 at most not a 6.
I believe both will dominate in a couple years, but right now they are just hype"

To the disgruntled munster fan. Leinster are just getting started as a team. its going to all about us for the next ten years so get used to it. the academy will keep producing talented youngsters as the playing pool increases due to the games rising popularity. munster just arent bringing the young players through, Earls excepted. i can see an ireland team in five or so years being dominated by leinster with ulster next then munster.

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Anonymous December 23, 2009 6:41 pm

i was at the match and although south africa didnt play there best ireland were brilliant and lokked the deserved winners also after the first try th springboks never again looked like scorring Irelands defence was rock solin

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Anonymous January 30, 2010 8:15 pm

to the guy 5 comments p ur spot on. rugby has class and those who r like

south africa kick ass

or

sh cocky pricks! take that!

r ruining this website. if u dont have anything interesting or funny or sporting to say go to other websites. there r other websites built for that purpose. and im irish

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