Tuesday, December 01, 2009
USA qualify for 2011 World Cup after beating Uruguay
In their first match in Montevideo, the USA picked up a narrow 27-22 victory. In the second leg though, at home in Florida, Eddie OSullivans side won convincingly, 27-6.
They will be in Pool C for the New Zealand hosted World Cup, where they will face Australia, Ireland, Italy, and one other European qualifier.
Captain Todd Clever scored two tries, with Louis Stanfill and Kevin Swiryn also crossing for tries in Fort Lauderdale, an unlikely setting for an international rugby match.
Many believe that the United States are the sleeping giants of world rugby, and that with the correct systems in place and exposure to the sport, could soon be a dominant force.
Coach OSullivan is pleased with the progress the side are making, and the way they performed against the South American side.
"It's tough to hit the ground running after not being together since July, and although we qualified, which was our ultimate goal - they were a little rusty early on.
"I can't be too hard on them, though, they got the job done and you can't forget that we scored eight tries in the last two games against Uruguay."
Theres no doubt that the Eagles qualifying for the World Cup is great for the sport in the United States as the profile will be raised a notch once again. They did it in style last time around with the try of the tournament. Hopefully they can replicate that, and more, in 2011.
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Anonymous December 01, 2009 11:25 pm

Anonymous December 01, 2009 11:28 pm

themull December 01, 2009 11:40 pm

Any sport the US truly put their mind to and take seriously as a nation they do very well in...UNfortunately thought it'll prob be another 2 or 3 WC qualifications at the very least untill they make the step up to the top tier of rugby...
Sean December 01, 2009 11:53 pm

Dom December 02, 2009 12:02 am

YankeeRugger76 December 02, 2009 12:10 am

Kearney for tests December 02, 2009 12:10 am

I kind of feel sorry for the Americans anyway having Eddie O'Sullivan. I just lost all respect for him after the world cup and 2008 Six Nations. Although with a new team I suppose things won't be as stale as they became with Ireland.
And hopefully the film Invictus will give rugby a bit of limelight and popularity over there. I hope the next president is a rugby player too. That'd be a real shot in the arm.
Walden December 02, 2009 12:16 am

Anonymous December 02, 2009 12:19 am

....ugh, we already had one of those guys. Rugby player a good president does not make. ;)
http://www.stuffucanuse.com/British_Lions_Haka/bushsuckerpunch.gif
Interest Rate Rise December 02, 2009 12:21 am

I thought you had to be a Saffa to play in an SA franchise.
Congrats to USA. The fans seem really supportive.
istya December 02, 2009 12:36 am

Tell that to the Springboks, the Wallabies, and the All Blacks.
Charlie December 02, 2009 12:42 am

Don't take this as American arrogance (I've got to choose my words carefully, I suppose), but there are sports in which we do respectably well that are played outside this country. Baseball, while mostly popular only in the Americas is also very popular in Japan. Basketball, too, is pretty popular in places like Argentina, China, and quite a few European countries.
If we're talking about a sport like soccer, then yeah, we're not great, but we've consistently qualified for the World Cup and even made it to 3rd place so many years ago.
Other international sports with high profile Americans are tennis, golf, volleyball, etc.
Again, I'm not being arrogant - I'm sure we'd have a hell of a time coming to Ireland to play some Gaelic sports. I was just responding to the assertion that we only do well in sports played primarily here in the U.S. (I doubt you meant anything by it, though, so no worries).
You're right in that those ARE the sports we tend to care most about. I really don't see that changing anytime soon, but that's fine by me. I'll settle for small victories like Clever getting a contract with the Lions, Ngwenya at Biarritz, or just qualifying for the RWC.
Anonymous December 02, 2009 1:05 am

Great result. I was worried we wouldn't qualify after Canada beat us. Can't wait to see us play Australia and Ireland!
Anonymous December 02, 2009 1:07 am

Todd Clever is a legend. I think he's the only American to have played against the British and Irish Lions.
ollie December 02, 2009 1:08 am

And, while I didn't like what o sullivan did with a great Irish team, for US he's prob fine: a bit of structure, coming from a high rank, willing to and indeed probably enjoys living in the US
realrugby December 02, 2009 1:45 am

I'm an American who learned how to play rugby in Fiji. What I've found since I've been back in the States and tried to organize teams and clubs in the cities I've lived in is that Americans don't appreciate the skill level it takes to play well. There really isn't a lot of skill in American football. Rugby players have to have just about all the skills of each of the positions in American football and that's hard for them to understand. So, it's more than just a simple skill transfer - they have to learn a whole new set of skills. Gotta start with the kids, of course. Problem there is that their parents are the ones who think Rugby is for masochistic neanderthals when their kids may actually get hurt more playing football.
Anyways, I hope America does well. Uh, maybe they'll beat Italy. Looking more towards their success in 7's than 15's. Short term, anyways.
Very excited about Invictus coming out. I think the story will get a lot of people interested and that may result in some increased interest in participation.
The mascot's fine.
And, yeah, we had a rugby playing president. Now, we have a basketball playing president. Some good stuff, some bad stuff about Bush, as with everybody. The fact that he played rugby was one of the good things about him. Hey, if I ever become president, I'll make rugby the national sport....
Anonymous December 02, 2009 2:34 am

Jack December 02, 2009 2:55 am

Joe December 02, 2009 3:15 am

Joe December 02, 2009 3:16 am

vinniechan December 02, 2009 3:18 am

Baseketball though, is a good game and suits city very well.
Anyway, at least if people in the US are starting to think rugby is cool, its a good start.
Rugby itself is receiving a lot of media hype lately, with 7's code making the Olympics (personally, I think we missed a big opportunity by not awarding RWC 2015 to Japan - RWC in Asia followed by Olympics in South American would take the game to new level on global stage) and a Hollywood movie coming up.
cheyanqui December 02, 2009 3:22 am

Plenty of non Saffas played for ZA S14 Franchises -- Michalak, Naqelevuki, JM Hernandez -- most recently.
I think you meant to say
" You have to play on a ZA S14 team to be chosen for the Boks"
Nonetheless, that "official" stance by the SARFU has been exceptioned several times, namely with front row players, like BJ Botha.
ned2or3 December 02, 2009 3:41 am

dont forget "the Beast" he is Zambian or Zimbawaen...
Canadian Content December 02, 2009 4:03 am

Rugby has been in the United States for over 100 years. As many of you know, they are reigning Olympic Champions having won the last gold medal in 1924.
Rugby's offspring is alive and well in the USA. Rugby is argubly the root of America's most prosperous industry. You can watch in every American town on Friday nights in the fall, Saturdays at every major college and on at least 5 television networks every Sunday. Its called football, the bastardized, mutated version of our beautiful game.
The Americans had rugby and decided they needed to change and "improve" it. The result was football (we Canadians did the same thing btw).
Clever is a fantastic player, as was the former Captain of Bath, Dan what's his name (I know, not knowing his last name lessens my creditentials), Ngwenya is very exciting. Let's just appreciate the efforts of those Americans dedicated to the game and quit pining for an American NRL.
PS: Clinton played for Oxford as well
Canadian Content December 02, 2009 4:11 am

Anonymous December 02, 2009 4:18 am

jordan December 02, 2009 4:19 am

We are greedy people, and unless it pays most could give two shits about a sport.
And why do we struggle so much with Uruguay?
flapjack December 02, 2009 4:46 am

I always forget about Canadian rugby, even though they usually beat us. We just expect you lot to be quiet, play hockey, and fix up shopping carts to sell 'em back to the store. ;)
On a side note, I used to get Canadian football on the "World Sport" channel when I had cable - but I never really knew: is it even that big a sport up there?
FB#15 December 02, 2009 5:04 am

Kearney for tests
Considering the USA has over 2500 Olympic medals, more than double the next highest country I would say that we care about more than three sports. Dont forget that includes two rugby golds (1920 and 1924)
Canadian Content
The Bath captain's last name was Lyle.
(I think its important you should know Dan Lyle spent most of his life playing that "bastardized, mutated game" American Football, and Rugby Magazine claims the discipline and skills he learned in American Football were part of what made him such a great rugger.)
Anonymous December 02, 2009 5:50 am

BC December 02, 2009 6:10 am

yeeah!
it was very cold but im glad i went
Victor December 02, 2009 7:08 am

FrankyH December 02, 2009 8:12 am

I also thought that sounded a bit strange..
Seems like a great guy though. Awesome for the US to have him as their leader.
As a saffa, that game between the USA & SA in the WC 2007 was incredible. There were about 5 former South Africans playing for the US, and their whole team played excellently, topping it off with that sensational try.
Probably shouldn't admit this, but even I was jumping on the couch when Ngwenya rounded Habana. Brilliant.
Congrats to the US. Huge country, great athletes. I really don't think money will be as big a deal as some people are making out. There's plenty of 'dropout' footballers (and basketball players?) who could find a successful career in rugby. Better than flipping burgers surely.
Johan December 02, 2009 8:27 am

Anonymous December 02, 2009 8:39 am

or
Downwards for Uruguay rugby
I don't know if this is something to be so happy for.
no shows December 02, 2009 9:46 am

jackohos December 02, 2009 10:32 am

Playing at Oxford and playing for Oxford are two very different things with a broad range of abilities. Clinton took up the game when he was there. Anyway...
Also, please enlighten us on when Canada have beaten all the major 6 Nations sides in the last 25 years? England and Ireland have never lost to Canada. And I'm only talking about 15s
The Inside Shoulder December 02, 2009 11:38 am

Andy December 02, 2009 1:30 pm

Great to see rugby groeing in America, they have massive potential although i do see it struggling to ever get a strong foothold for the exact reasons Realrugby mentioned. Also i can't think of anything worse than watching my team being walloped by the yanks, so if they start to get too good then i may change my opinion.
DDK December 02, 2009 2:31 pm

I'm a huge fan of the minos advancing rugby through the rest of the world and the USA are an exciting prospect. Say what you want about them, but no one can doubt their potential.
Anonymous December 02, 2009 3:31 pm

cheyanqui December 02, 2009 3:41 pm

The fact that The Beast is Zim born is not really the issue here, as Beast is Bok eligible (he never played for ZIM at the senior level).
I think the prior point is that players NOT eligible for the Boks are playing for ZA S14 (Clever, Michalak, Hernandez)
Many years back, Kennedy Tsimba (a Zim) couldn't play on an S14 franchise in ZA. The reason was that he was ineligible for Bok selection (he played for ZIM). But he was allowed to
Clearly to be "eligible for ZA" in order to play in ZA S14 no longer applies.
Anonymous December 02, 2009 5:05 pm

NorthernKnowledge December 02, 2009 6:15 pm

geordie December 02, 2009 6:50 pm

cheers RD
creggs08 December 02, 2009 7:44 pm

Anonymous December 02, 2009 10:20 pm

Canadian Content December 03, 2009 2:52 am

97th Grey Cup was played last Sunday and about 14 million maple syrup sucking, trailerpark boy watching, poutine eating Canadians watched the game or highlights (won by the Montreal Alouettes on a 33 yard field goal as time expired. They missed a forty three yarder the play before but the Saskchetwan Rough Riders had 13 men on the field and were penalized. You can have 13 in the Cdn game).
But this is a rugby site and I'll bring attention back to ou beautiful game. The Grey Cup was originally awarded to the Cdn rugby champion and several of our oldest clubs are etched onto it.
PS We call flapjacks by their proper name, pancakes.
Canadian Content December 03, 2009 3:08 am

Anonymous December 03, 2009 5:24 am

Huh!! the 3rd December 03, 2009 3:09 pm

I didn't understand the reason to play the game in Florida either. Chicago, San Fran and Denver are the biggest rugby areas in the States and the hotter weather in Florida could've suited Uruguay a lot better.
Luke December 03, 2009 3:34 pm

:) December 03, 2009 5:20 pm

the two games are completely different, i have played both, admittedly not much american football but some and enough to know the difference.
I happily play rugby, i played rugby up to a short spell seeing what american football was like and during then, and i have played since....
there is a massive difference in fitness levels!
no doubt you have to work hard in both games, but rugby fitness is that bit more.
i would continue to talk on the subject but right now im hungry....'you wouldnt like me when im hungry' so byeee
Jon December 04, 2009 7:13 am

And I'm an Aussie.
Luckily for us that will never happen, the most rugby will ever become in the USA is a small niche sport with a bit of respect from the average yank because it's an Olympic sport and it's tough.
That'd be a massive improvement over it's current status as a bizarre, dangerous English game, involving lunatics who don't wear pads, but aren't really proper athletes like NFL players.
That's how most yanks view rugby currently.
Anonymous December 10, 2009 4:40 am

Anyways, I'm a high school senior, looking to join a club later in the year and then do it in college. Both colleges I visited have good opportunities on their rugby teams so I'm really excited! I'd be comin from track and cross country so hopefully I can play as a back of some sort.
I sure hope the US can become a big influence in the world sometime soon. All my friends who know of it love it! I'm not one of those people who disses football though cause down in Texas that's a religion!
Once again though I'm really excited for our team and I'll be watchin in '11! (P.S. I can't wait for Invictus to come out Friday I'm seein it!!)
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