Friday, January 29, 2010
Danny Grewcock suspended for seven weeks for stamping
Not too long ago it was Ferris who was eye-gouged by both Julien Dupuy and David Atoub, resulting in lengthy bans for the Stade Francais players. Following this latest incident, Grewcock received a seven week suspension.
He received a red card from referee Jerome Garces at the time, and was found guilty of a mid-range in the level of seriousness stamp following a European Rugby Cup disciplinary hearing in Dublin.
The 37 year old has a history of disciplinary problems, which was taken into account by the independent judicial officer as he delivered the punishment.
The standard suspension for a mid-range offence is five weeks but Grewcock was given an extra fortnight, resulting in him being out of the game until March 13.
The 2003 World Cup winner missed the 2007 World Cup as he was suspended for six weeks at the time, and in November last year he was banned for two weeks for striking Neil de Kock of Saracens.
Grewcock has been suspended in the past for stamping, punching, and even biting. But when youre a brutish forward whos been in the game for 15 years, theres a pretty high chance that youll have the occasional run in the with law.
Hell now have a few weeks on the sidelines to reflect on a more than eventful career so far.
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alasdair January 29, 2010 6:50 pm

alasdair January 29, 2010 6:51 pm

Anonymous January 29, 2010 7:50 pm

Kearney for tests January 29, 2010 7:52 pm

Nicky07 January 29, 2010 7:57 pm

Anonymous January 29, 2010 8:03 pm

I don't want to be pessimist but how can some dudes like him or burger get some shorts bans with this this kind of acts ????
No.7 January 29, 2010 8:09 pm

....ofcourse grewcock deserves something for this, no argument there, just dont start comparing the two incidents!!!
Nico January 29, 2010 8:18 pm

Agreed 100%.
Incidents are not comparable and Grewcock has once again been plain stupid.
Ferris in the middle of it again, which really makes me wonder if he is not looking for it sometime. Of course, it certainly doesn't justify whatsoever stamping or, even worse, eye gouging. He just seems to have knack for pissing people off.
Anonymous January 29, 2010 8:29 pm

No.7 January 29, 2010 8:32 pm

Grewcock, also a world class lock, mean as hell, not to be trifled with, and ofcourse has the oldschool traits of not being too bright in certain decisions!
he has shown again his ability to lose his cool, obviously ferris was up to something, grewcock got up very quickly with a look on his face, then the stamp.....
obviously like i said before, grewcock deserves punishment and yes ferris does not deserve that sort of treatment but i do want to find out more about what he gets up to, it seems odd that 2 stade players target him in the match a while back, and now grewcock with the stamp.....he's obviously up to something lol!
No.7 January 29, 2010 8:37 pm

on that note, i dont know many players that wouldnt have done something similar....maybe not so blatent and malicious but certainly step on some skin....
so i can empathise with him for doing it, but he got caught, so he's gotta pay.....
.....(apologies for not seeing it sooner...internet is tres slow!)
ulsterman January 29, 2010 8:50 pm

Anonymous January 29, 2010 9:16 pm

Massive difference between rucking and stamping. That's a straight red all the way
Third Centre January 29, 2010 9:21 pm

A real waste as he's a tough and skillful player
istya January 29, 2010 9:21 pm

Honestly, these comments are getting really idiotic. Rugby is pussified because it doesn't allow stamping? Look, if you want to see people punch and kick each other, go watch UFC. This is rugby, and it has laws. You break them, you pay the price.
j dupuy January 29, 2010 9:41 pm

geordie January 29, 2010 9:47 pm

Anonymous January 29, 2010 9:47 pm

I think most forwards will admit to having a bit of 'afters' because a member of the opposition has tried something like this.
flwanker January 29, 2010 9:55 pm

Maximus January 29, 2010 10:38 pm

I don't know Ulster n8's name but he looks as if he wanted to do something incredibly stupid: jump on Grewcock (incredibly stupid enough) right after the ref has stopped the game to deal with the stamping. Everbody's cool except him: ridiculous.
a 7-week ban is fair to me. I agree with No.7 and Nico: you can't compare this with gouging and it's funny how Ferris is always getting some these last weeks. Not too bad a player for a now one-armed blind man.
Darren January 29, 2010 11:08 pm

I don't know Ulster n8's name but he looks as if he wanted to do something incredibly stupid: jump on Grewcock (incredibly stupid enough) right after the ref has stopped the game to deal with the stamping. Everbody's cool except him: ridiculous.
What's ridiculous is your statement, Chris Henry has been one of if not the best No. 8 in the magners league this year warranting a place in the Irish squad. Did he do anything, bar voice his dissapproval. No. So wtf are you on about?
mise January 29, 2010 11:59 pm

I mean, how else could he possibley free himself from the vice-grip of a man lying on the ground holding a lower leg behind his head....
Really, Ferris is lucky that he was only stamped on.
Maximus January 30, 2010 12:11 am

honestly, he could be the very best 8 in the whole galaxy and you can be edgy as you want to be it doesn't change anything. Fact is: I don't know this man, not even his name. That's it.
I'm happy for him (and for you too since you seem to be particularly emotionally involved here) if he is in the Irish squad, so i'll see him in the 6N. But so far, unknown to me.
The first thing i know about him is he's the only player who's trying to jump on Grewcock when everything is finished. It lasts 5" but i find them ridiculous because it could have started a brawl if his team mates hadn't stopped him and THEN he voices his disapproval. And yes, you can be a world class player but if your 5" weakness starts a brawl while -for once- the ref is doing his job, i find this ridiculous.
But that's all there is to it, no more. I never said Chris Henry was the arch rugby moron, I just said while I was watching the stamping the only other thing I saw was him getting all excited when it was over. Had Roncero been in Grewcock's team, they'd still all be fighting because of Chris Henry's impulse. End of story and no personal crusade.
Mind how many times i typed Chris Henry. It helps me memorize. You can find my statement ridiculous but you can't deny I'm making efforts.
Kearney for tests January 30, 2010 1:09 am

HM January 30, 2010 1:45 am

Bullshit! If you don't want to get shitkicked, don't hold onto players when you're on the ground. That wasn't on a joint, head or genitals, so wasn't dangerous. Yellow for Grewcock and a warning for Ferris.
Also, it almost sounds like RD are accepting biting as part of the game for a hard forward. Punching, stamping etc. I understand, but biting is only marginally less repulsive than gouging. I've been bitten before, and it's horrible. The ref didn't see, so guess who got binned for punching the cunt in the face...
maji January 30, 2010 3:50 am

sebastian January 30, 2010 9:09 am

Anonymous January 30, 2010 9:25 am

Anonymous January 30, 2010 9:34 am

Anonymous January 30, 2010 9:41 am

Anonymous January 30, 2010 10:10 am

and maybe a similar story in the other cases aswell,
or maybe he was just playing grewcock, he knows his track record, and he knew where the ref was and turned straight to him when he was stamped on, its easy to piss of grewcock so that what he did, and in doing to gave his team a massive advantage.
Anonymous January 30, 2010 12:07 pm

Anonymous January 30, 2010 12:21 pm

Well grewcock is mean force not to be messed with, and in all honesty just like no.7 said i dont know many players that would have reacted differently to what grewcock did
....perhaps more tactful but i know id have shown his arm some studs!!!
you watch scrum halfs they forever get hands holding them, and they are forever sticking boots in, its just the way grewcock did it so blatantly which was stupid!
H January 30, 2010 1:16 pm

JPM January 30, 2010 2:51 pm

Definitely not a red card for most players....but when refs sees it's Grewcock.....well.
So Grewcock gets a ban just one week less than Burger for eye gouging. Ferris also desrved it.
Anonymous January 30, 2010 2:53 pm

JPM January 30, 2010 2:57 pm

Actually the really nasty injuries which involve spinal injuries occur during the ordinary parts of the game: scrum collpase, tackles and rucks. A Welsh player died recently when he was cleared out legally in a ruck. I have never head of anyone being seriously injured by stamping.
JPM January 30, 2010 3:37 pm

Unfortunately Grewcock's reputation for poor discipline probably didn't help.
JPM January 30, 2010 3:39 pm

This should have been a yellow.
Anonymous January 30, 2010 3:49 pm

Anonymous January 30, 2010 4:22 pm

Anonymous January 30, 2010 4:27 pm

Flooz January 30, 2010 5:20 pm

florian fritz (ireland-france 2009), dupuy, attoub, grewcock and few others. It can't be coincidences
Grewcock stamp is foolish, just in front of the referee... His red card is completly deserved, 7 weeks is a minimum because of his disicipline palmares.
a flanker has to be mighty but if grewcock is a wanker, ferris attitudes annoy a lot of people.
Ferris in No7, few 6 nations mauls will be pretty animated i think..
RossyC January 30, 2010 5:33 pm

grewcock is also a legend of the game
No.7 January 30, 2010 5:55 pm

Great comment! i dont think people should hate grewcock for this... i personally think he is a great player (when he keeps calm) when he gets involved it just ruins it for him.....
....but i think it is a shame for a red. Its a Mid-range level of seriousness....in all fairness im not complaining because you have to accept the decisions but it makes me wonder, it didnt really look 'mid level' serious to me....it looked quite low level...but punishable ofcourse....i dont think he should have been given the extra fortnight, i think consideration to ferris grabbing his leg should have kept it at 5 weeks....
Hooker_ January 30, 2010 7:05 pm

Nico January 30, 2010 7:24 pm

Back to Grewcock and Ferris. Ferris definitely looking for it... as a good backrow should to a certain extent. And, as commented above several times, anybody who's been in a field fully expect a few studs marks or gently punches. My point is that Grewcock just lost it. This was not rucking. Stamping and putting in the full weight on a player's arm (especially when it's Grewcock doing it...) can cause quite a bit of damage, hence the justified red card.
Ferris is quality. Looking at the vid, I almost thought that when he got stamped on, he immediately turned his face to the ref which I'd find pretty outrageous and something you'd expect from a n. 9 or a football player. But looking at it again, It just seems coincidental and a reaction to pain.
Very intrigued by Ferris and looking forward to seeing more of him, hopefully not on the receiving end, though!
Huh!! the 3rd January 30, 2010 7:52 pm

Looks liek Ferris is specialising in getting opposition players being sent off and banned. Attoub 70 wks + Dupuy 24 + Grewcock 7. Not bad...but naybe if he played rugby instead of being a c*** histeam would be through...
Haven't read on so don't know if anyone commented on it. Ferris was actually Man of the Match yet again this season in this game. In little over a year he has become one of the best Blindsides in the game. He was involved in everything good and bad in this game, which was the best game of the round 6 weekend and RD really has to get the Highlights up.
Maximus
Chris Henry is also the captain of Ulster until Rory Best returns.
John F January 30, 2010 11:52 pm

It is a fact of rugby that players will try to get away with holding players back, obstructions and worse but the IRB should definitely take a stand on all foul play with significant bans.
gary January 30, 2010 11:58 pm

buscape January 31, 2010 1:27 am

But what he did was right in front of the referee, so what else could he expect? Ferris, who is an amazing player, still got what he deserved, though.
It's interesting to see where referees draw the line...a player whose shirt is being held in a ruck or a scrum will swing his arms like he's trying to fell a tree - bashing the forearm of the player doing the holding until he lets go. 99% of the time, refs have no qualms with that what-so-ever. But throw a studded boot into the equation and it goes straight by yellow to a red card. Interesting is all.
Grewcock seems like a total knob, though.
ned2or3 January 31, 2010 5:15 am

If I had held a leg in my early days I would have got my head kicked in (& fair enough). If I did it now it would be more likely to see a football type dive in the ground to try and draw the refs attention
Anonymous January 31, 2010 7:18 am

37 and still playing. Hats off to him. I suppose all those lengthy bans has assisted in the longevity of his career.
Anonymous January 31, 2010 12:30 pm

DC January 31, 2010 1:05 pm

i use the term losely because i myself am a youngster early 20's.
but really you guys are so hellbent on rules and 'running rugby' you miss everything that matters.....
put this aside slightly, as ofcourse Grewcock perhaps went a little too far, what i mean by that is, standing on his arm whilst on one leg......which i think is why the referee acted so harshly i think had he stepped on ferris arm and still been on both feet, it would probably have been nothing or a talking...or yellow....
but really a lot of you guys hate him....why?....he is the epitome of a bad ass lock....he scares the shit out of people and really he is not someone player will pick a fight with....WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT!!! Martin Johnson had the same characteristics, he had a presence, not just anybody stood up to him....! yes ofcourse grewcock is a tool for letter his reactions cloud his playing ability, which ok is not 'number 1 lock in the world' but it is pretty damn high.
but it seems to me ferris has game this 'wilkinson, shane williams, BOD' stature in the sense that anyone does anything to him and they are a 'wanker etc etc' the fact of the matter is THIS IS RUGBY, yes you can want to jump in to bed with the nearest *star* player, thats up to you, but people get big tackles, scraps, and ofcourse a good shoeing! and 99% of the time it is just and deserved!
Ferris deserved it, no doubt about that, just the same as grewcock deserves 'some' punishment for his reaction.
what a lot of you guys dont realise is that sticking your boot on someone was part of the game, and in my opinion still should be. when i started senior rugby (youngster stuff doesnt count, everyone wants to be nasty then...) you had to be the bad guy or you end up on the receiving end, (as a forward i mean)....i play second row and im not afraid to stand up to people or use the boot, (less so nowadays cos of the laws)
You lift a leg in a maul and you expect a punch in the face or something, and luckily that stuff isnt picked up on camera otherwise the game would be this dull shit you guys want....
9 to 10, 10 miss pass to 13, 13 to 11, 11 scores ....yaaay...
9 to 10, 10 miss pass to 13, 13 to 11, 11 scores ....yaaay...
9 to 10, 10 miss pass to 13, 13 to 11, 11 scores ....yaaay...
9 to 10, 10 miss pass to 13, 13 to 11, 11 scores ....yaaay...
9 to 10, 10 miss pass to 13, 13 to 11, 11 scores ....yaaay...
wow....sounds like fun to me!
Whitearrow January 31, 2010 6:21 pm

luxi January 31, 2010 6:57 pm

clear stamping just in front of the ref's eyes and with clear video evidence!!! result : only a 7 week ban !!!!
on the other hand, stade francais's david attoub gets 18MONTHS !!! for 'eye-gouging' with no proof but a single photo shot which, with modern technologies, can very easily be modified !!
Rugby REALLY needs to solve the bans problem for foul play!!!
Sander January 31, 2010 9:15 pm

I always though that Grewcock was a very good player, but acts like these (and kicking Peel in the face a couple of years ago) make him seem like a right thug.
I tink Ferris grabbed Grewcock because Danny stepped on Ferris when retreating to his own side. But the stamp is just measured and deliberate.
Edbok February 01, 2010 10:33 am

Thought this was a borderline yellow/red situation - yes, it was a blatant stamp and warranted punishment, but it wasn't aimed at a defenceless/innocent person and not at their head. If rugby wants to take a zero tolerance approach to stamping, then this is all fair enough, but many more serious offences in the past have met with lesser punishments.
Eoghan February 01, 2010 12:33 pm

That said, who cares ?
How easy would it have been for Grewcock to pull his leg out of Ferris' grasp ?
Blatant stamp = straightforward decision for the Red Card...I thought 7 weeks a bit harsh on the suspension (perhaps 4 about right) but Grewcock has so much previous he can't really complain.
People ask why Ferris is involved in these recent incidents ? He's a quick, powerful, massive footballing back-rower who's excellent defensively and going forward...i.e. he's something of a target for other teams (I don't think this applies to this incident but it certainly does to the couple of gouges he got - no accident that they both involved him).
Joe February 02, 2010 12:00 am

Maximus February 02, 2010 1:07 am

Kearney for tests
And Darren too, in a way...
Sorry for the late reply. I just don't want to be misunderstood.
I never denied any quality to the man as a rugby player. I just never watch the magners league except on RD.
Chris Henry was MoM, good & apparently deserved. I'll have time to see him during the 6N, good because I'll be able to see the phenomenon myself.
... "but", and you'll see how stubborn I can be when I want to, even if of course I understand he's pissed to see his mate Ferris getting some once again (as if the whole NH wanted to hurt him these last days) I still find it stupid to react AFTER the ref's whistle, giving the opportunity to this same ref who is penalizing the opposition to reverse the penalty against you because you jump on someone (even if you have your reasons) while everybody has stopped moving. Even Grewcock.
To me (again, this is just "me"), there are 5" stupidity. Even if there were 79'55" class.
Again, that's no big deal and certainly not the most important thing in this video.
And thank you for giving me A LOT of information about him, I'm really looking forward to seeing him play now. Hope he'll be in good shape.
Victor February 02, 2010 9:26 am

There is a lot of words going round about grewcock 'dumbest, wanker, cock' so as that language is deemed appropriate, i shall apply it! only this time its to ferris!
The first time i watched the video i saw ferris holding grewcocks leg and grewcock stamping on him. I felt it was over the top, and a little surprising....
....i watched again and noticed grewcock actually pulled his leg away and ferris still maintained a grip on it ('How easy would it have been for Grewcock to pull his leg out of Ferris grasp ?' so in answer to that, not very!!!) , so grewcock stamped, now i felt it was a lot more understanding as to why he did it, and maybe a little over the top.....
......after the 3rd time i noticed ferris also has a grip on grewcocks left arm, as well as his leg....so in all honesty, id pat grewcock on the back!
It was right on the try line, ulster were on the front foot, and ferris was no part of the game at that point!!! Grewcock was in no way posing a threat to ferris (i.e he wasnt nearly standing on ferris, by accident or on purpose) so ferris should had no reason to even touch him!
so i put this to you, if there is one player in this situation who is the cheat and the wanker, its ferris!
i appreciate grewcock needed to be punished, but 7 weeks is a harsh punishment considering ferris input towards it!
now im glad ferris plays for ireland and i truly do appreciate that, aswell as his attributes on the field (im an ire fan) but i cannot wait to see him get the almightiest of pastings on the field for something he gets up to.
Anonymous February 02, 2010 12:34 pm

You get idiotic players not using the system administered by the woman and then whining about getting fined for it - despite admitting to wrong doing.
And then you get idiots on rugby fora claiming that it's a woman's fault and that they shouldn't be in the game.
Rugby; a great bastion of overt patriarchy.
Bunch of morons.
Tvrtko February 02, 2010 12:43 pm

Anonymous February 02, 2010 11:51 pm

Anonymous February 03, 2010 2:14 pm

The guy impedes your game that is, as a forward, based on aggression, what do you expect him to do? I'd say stamp the bastard...
You're all a bunch of pussies.
And I'm willing to mitigate my defense of Grewcok here, he's an idiot to do this in front of the referee but rugby will always and should always contain manly reactions such as this one.
Anonymous February 03, 2010 2:25 pm

There's no need to comment on all the previous dirty history of Grewcock and to call him a wanker and a cock when all he does here is to stamp on an imbecile that is up to dirty tricks.
A yellow card to both would have been a fairer solution.
Grewcock shouldn't lose his calm like that but has a definite defence in the fact that, according to surrounding circumstances (he's on his try line, impeded through grabs on his arm and leg on a few occasions in the space of 10 seconds by someone who's not in the play), his reaction wasn't THAT bad I would say --> yellow card.
Ferris is definitely being a twat and is deliberately cheating in order to get an advantage (easier try or card if there's a reaction - I HATE those people) --> yellow card.
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