Tuesday, February 16, 2010
Reds vs Waratahs classic derby ends dramatically
The match ended in heartbreak for one of the sides right at the death, so if you want to avoid the spoiler, stop reading now and skip straight to the video to watch events unfold for yourself.
The Reds looked to have the game sealed up as they led 28-23 with three tries to one and little time left, but big Wycliff Palu charged in under the posts to break the hearts of Queensland players and fans alike.
Daniel Halangahu slotted the easy conversion to take the 30-28 win and leave the Reds wondering how they managed to throw away all the good work theyd done until that point.
Losing captain James Horwill was absolutely devastated, saying he was "shattered", pretty much summing up the feeling in the side that were considered underdogs going into this season.
It was a high-tempo, free flowing game that contained plenty to talk about. Dean Mumm has been suspended since the match, and Will Caldwell made an accusation of biting, aimed at Adam Byrnes, who in tern mentioned eye gouging.
Caldwell left the match with 26 stitches to his head, a cut finger, and a disciplinary hearing following the tussle with Byrnes. Sufficent evidence wasnt found though, so both players were cleared of any wrong doings.
''I think everyone saw it was a pretty tough encounter out there, but that's sort of thing you probably like to expect in a NSW-Queensland match. I was certainly in the thick of it with a bit of claret out of the head, but I think most of that actually came from friendly fire,'' he said.
Eventful right till the end, it was definitely one of the games of round 1, and a classic in the two sides' long history. Enjoy.
Time: 06:20
Posted at 10:14 am | 31 comments
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True Blue Aussie February 16, 2010 10:31 am
And I need you now tonight
And I need you more than ever
And if you'll only hold me tight
We'll be holding on forever
And we'll only be making it right
Cause we'll never be wrong together
We can take it to the end of the line
Your love is like a shadow on me all of the time
I don't know what to do and I'm always in the dark
We're living in a powder keg and giving off sparks
I really need you tonight
Forever's gonna start tonight
Forever's gonna start tonight
And I need you more than ever
And if you'll only hold me tight
We'll be holding on forever
And we'll only be making it right
Cause we'll never be wrong together
We can take it to the end of the line
Your love is like a shadow on me all of the time
I don't know what to do and I'm always in the dark
We're living in a powder keg and giving off sparks
I really need you tonight
Forever's gonna start tonight
Forever's gonna start tonight
Benson February 16, 2010 10:35 am
Cauldron Schmauldron! Love it. Great match. Ouch @ the finish. Would have been great if the Reds had taken it.
Alexander February 16, 2010 11:17 am
Third!!! Mmm Palu made up for his poor defence earlier on, hanging around at back of ruck to allow the boy to dive for the line. Feel for the reds though. Hopefully they'll mount some more of a challenge this year; they have good players for it!!
Anonymous February 16, 2010 11:51 am
anyone can tell me why the referee sayd "panalty try" when the blue player sent the ball out of the field in the in goal? sorry for my poor english
Phil February 16, 2010 12:46 pm
10.2(c):
Throwing into touch.
A player must not intentionally knock, place, push or throw the ball with his arm or hand into touch, touch-in-goal, or over the dead ball line.
Sanction: Penalty kick on the 15-metre line if the offence is between the 15-metre line and the touchline, or, at the place of infringement if the offence occurred elsewhere in the field of play, or, 5 metres from the goal line and at least 15 metres from the touchline if the infringement occurred in in-goal.
A penalty try must be awarded if the offence prevents a try that would probably otherwise have been scored.
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It's deemed unfair play, whose ruling is different to that of rugby league.
Throwing into touch.
A player must not intentionally knock, place, push or throw the ball with his arm or hand into touch, touch-in-goal, or over the dead ball line.
Sanction: Penalty kick on the 15-metre line if the offence is between the 15-metre line and the touchline, or, at the place of infringement if the offence occurred elsewhere in the field of play, or, 5 metres from the goal line and at least 15 metres from the touchline if the infringement occurred in in-goal.
A penalty try must be awarded if the offence prevents a try that would probably otherwise have been scored.
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It's deemed unfair play, whose ruling is different to that of rugby league.
Anonymous February 16, 2010 1:16 pm
heart breaker for the reds. lots of good rugby in the upcoming months, if the matches are anywhere as good as this one was.
Anonymous February 16, 2010 1:26 pm
what a forward pass at 3:55.
great match, no wonder this is the best rugby in the world
great match, no wonder this is the best rugby in the world
Jason February 16, 2010 2:30 pm
wtf is that kicking style? he looks like a damn goose
Greiffel February 16, 2010 2:33 pm
Lol well spotted Jason. I also thought that it looked a bit odd. We'll leave it at 'interesting technique' for now though maybe, especially as he kicked pretty well.
Anonymous February 16, 2010 3:34 pm
No offense...but this game looked like more a league type ....Rugby union is something different...and NH teams play a much better "classic" rugby..
Kearney for tests February 16, 2010 4:23 pm
That actually did look like an exciting match. But I thought Quade Cooper was in prison. Didn't he rob a surfing shop? Or did he already do his time?
FrankyH February 16, 2010 6:15 pm
What a noob two comments up..
Quade Cooper has been allowed to play, but the court hearing will only take place in about 6 months time.
Amazing finish. Horwill was almost in tears in the post match interview!
Quade Cooper has been allowed to play, but the court hearing will only take place in about 6 months time.
Amazing finish. Horwill was almost in tears in the post match interview!
Anonymous February 16, 2010 6:41 pm
To FrankH
"What a noob two comments up.."
Well, I still consider NH rugby union different and much closer to classic rugby than your Super 14.
"What a noob two comments up.."
Well, I still consider NH rugby union different and much closer to classic rugby than your Super 14.
Craig February 16, 2010 10:57 pm
In reply to one of the questions below. It was a penalty try for two reasons. 1) While running for the ball the blue player illegally Interfered with the red player. The blue players hand briefly pulled back the red players shoulder, allowing him to touch the ball first (you can nudge each other while running shoulder to shoulder but you cannot grasp the person you are running against). Then 2) it is actually illegal (so a penalty) to throw the ball out of play on the full. If the blue player didnt do either of these illegal actions a try would have been scored, so the ref had no option but to award a penalty try.
Looked like a great game
Looked like a great game
Tom February 16, 2010 11:15 pm
"Well, I still consider NH rugby union different and much closer to classic rugby than your Super 14."
WTF?
What does that even mean?
By classic do you mean that NH rugby is slower and less succesful?
You're saying the All Blacks and Springboks (the two most succesful and famous rugby teams in the hsitory of rugby) don't play "classic rugby".
What are you retarded?
We play winning rugby, unlike you lot, who play slower, stodgier shite.
There's an old saying you'd do well to take head to.
Upon being asked about England inventing rugby, an old All Black captain famously said :
"Sure, you invented rugby, and we taught you how to play it."
WTF?
What does that even mean?
By classic do you mean that NH rugby is slower and less succesful?
You're saying the All Blacks and Springboks (the two most succesful and famous rugby teams in the hsitory of rugby) don't play "classic rugby".
What are you retarded?
We play winning rugby, unlike you lot, who play slower, stodgier shite.
There's an old saying you'd do well to take head to.
Upon being asked about England inventing rugby, an old All Black captain famously said :
"Sure, you invented rugby, and we taught you how to play it."
REDnBLUE February 17, 2010 1:04 am
Devastating for the Reds, i was at the game and the atmosphere was amazing!
All you from the north saying your rugby is better or more "classical" can cram it. Its slow and sluggish, the forwards do some good work to get up the field only for some douche to take a drop goal instead of continuing up the field allowing the backs and forwards to combine for a 5/7 pointer.
The top three ranked teams in the world are the big three from the tri nations and the top 10 only has four teams from the north so read em and weep ;)
All you from the north saying your rugby is better or more "classical" can cram it. Its slow and sluggish, the forwards do some good work to get up the field only for some douche to take a drop goal instead of continuing up the field allowing the backs and forwards to combine for a 5/7 pointer.
The top three ranked teams in the world are the big three from the tri nations and the top 10 only has four teams from the north so read em and weep ;)
Anonymous February 17, 2010 1:22 am
Tom,
Keep you mouth clean...and be more respectful...it is a matter of fact that you guys play a rugby union type of style that is more and more resembling a rugby league type...for instance where scrumming does not play a major role....all the players are very good runners etc... This is not what I consider the "classic" way to play rugby union.
Keep you mouth clean...and be more respectful...it is a matter of fact that you guys play a rugby union type of style that is more and more resembling a rugby league type...for instance where scrumming does not play a major role....all the players are very good runners etc... This is not what I consider the "classic" way to play rugby union.
Tom February 17, 2010 2:39 am
You have no idea, the Australian scrum destroyed all comers in the autumn tests.
You obviously no sweet fuck all about the S14 or SH rugby.
"Classic rugby".
What a stupid term.
You lot model your rugby on us, not the other way round.
You obviously no sweet fuck all about the S14 or SH rugby.
"Classic rugby".
What a stupid term.
You lot model your rugby on us, not the other way round.
Jon February 17, 2010 2:47 am
Sorry anon, but you show an astounding lack of knowledge about the hsitory of rugby.
Historically the greatest scrummaging side is New Zealand, they are also historically the greatest rucking side.
South Africa too has a long history of great srummaging.
In terms of having strike runners, SH teams have had good runners of the ball since the beggingin of the game.
Are you saying guys like Nick Farr-Jones, David Campese, Jonah Lomu, Michael Lynaugh, Dally Messenger, Jeff Wilson, or modern players like Habana don't or weren't playing "classic rugby"???
You realise that they have no idea baout rugby league in South Africa, but theys till produce great ball runners? Is Shane Williams not a real rugby player, cuz he is a good runner?
You make no sense at all.
Did you ever stop to consider that maybe the NH just is worse at rugby? That the fact they don't produce many good ball players is just an inditement on their development pathways and philosophy?
Historically the SH dominates all facets of play anyway, including forward play, set pieces and defence.
That's why they beat NH teams so regularly.
Not cuz they're playing some new form of rugby, but simply because they are better at rugby in every way, and always have been.
Maybe you're just trying to make yourself feel better about supporting sub standard rugby teams by saying that the best three rugby teams in the world don't play what you laughingly describe as "classic rugby".
Historically the greatest scrummaging side is New Zealand, they are also historically the greatest rucking side.
South Africa too has a long history of great srummaging.
In terms of having strike runners, SH teams have had good runners of the ball since the beggingin of the game.
Are you saying guys like Nick Farr-Jones, David Campese, Jonah Lomu, Michael Lynaugh, Dally Messenger, Jeff Wilson, or modern players like Habana don't or weren't playing "classic rugby"???
You realise that they have no idea baout rugby league in South Africa, but theys till produce great ball runners? Is Shane Williams not a real rugby player, cuz he is a good runner?
You make no sense at all.
Did you ever stop to consider that maybe the NH just is worse at rugby? That the fact they don't produce many good ball players is just an inditement on their development pathways and philosophy?
Historically the SH dominates all facets of play anyway, including forward play, set pieces and defence.
That's why they beat NH teams so regularly.
Not cuz they're playing some new form of rugby, but simply because they are better at rugby in every way, and always have been.
Maybe you're just trying to make yourself feel better about supporting sub standard rugby teams by saying that the best three rugby teams in the world don't play what you laughingly describe as "classic rugby".
REDS! February 17, 2010 2:58 am
All you from the north have to remember that international Rugby is run from the north, we play by your rules so quit complaining about our dominant rugby, if you want to compete you know who to model yourself off.
Jon February 17, 2010 3:06 am
Cheers mate.
Further to that point, people oftenc ite Australia as having a terrible scrum historically.
While Australia has always struggled to compete with some top teams (usually just SA and NZ, but more recently there was a period - roughly 2003-2007 - where alot of the 6 natios teams had the edge too), historically they've always alternated between having great set-pieces or poor ones.
Inf act this is usually the test of a great Aus side. They almost always have one of the most dangerous, if not the most dangerous, backlines in world rugby.
It is when they have a world clas tight 5 that they are dangerous.
This has been the case more often than not in the last 30 years, hence Australia's success in the last few decades.
When Australia won the WC in 1991 they had an excellent set piece platform, and when they won in 1999 they had an even better set piece (at that time they were considered amongst the best scrums, easily the best line-out in world rugby, and generally were considered to be second only to NZ in terms of their tight 5).
People's memories are just very short, and they are often myopic about other teams abilities.
Currently Australia has one of the best front rows in world rugby and their second row is developing well in terms of depth.
Their scrum is currently one of the best int he world.
Anyway, the point of that is just to illustrate the aburdity of believeing the NH has some monopoly on good set piece rugby.
Ironically, throughout history the SH has more often than not, dominated their NH counterparts in this department, particularly NZ.
NZ in fact has historically been the greatest proponents of set piece rugby in history.
Further to that point, people oftenc ite Australia as having a terrible scrum historically.
While Australia has always struggled to compete with some top teams (usually just SA and NZ, but more recently there was a period - roughly 2003-2007 - where alot of the 6 natios teams had the edge too), historically they've always alternated between having great set-pieces or poor ones.
Inf act this is usually the test of a great Aus side. They almost always have one of the most dangerous, if not the most dangerous, backlines in world rugby.
It is when they have a world clas tight 5 that they are dangerous.
This has been the case more often than not in the last 30 years, hence Australia's success in the last few decades.
When Australia won the WC in 1991 they had an excellent set piece platform, and when they won in 1999 they had an even better set piece (at that time they were considered amongst the best scrums, easily the best line-out in world rugby, and generally were considered to be second only to NZ in terms of their tight 5).
People's memories are just very short, and they are often myopic about other teams abilities.
Currently Australia has one of the best front rows in world rugby and their second row is developing well in terms of depth.
Their scrum is currently one of the best int he world.
Anyway, the point of that is just to illustrate the aburdity of believeing the NH has some monopoly on good set piece rugby.
Ironically, throughout history the SH has more often than not, dominated their NH counterparts in this department, particularly NZ.
NZ in fact has historically been the greatest proponents of set piece rugby in history.
Chris, syd Aust February 17, 2010 3:12 am
go the tahs.... tuff road trip to SA this week - beat those stomers with a bonus point win!
Anonymous February 17, 2010 3:59 am
Let me say quite frankly that rugby was invented over here that wahy I called it "classic"...second, it is true that your rugby is getting different...faster, more physical, less scrumming etc.
Of course guys, I do not mean that NH rugby is better (nor vice-versa)...I just pointed out that your rugby (specially the Australian) is closer to the rugby league than the NH rugby.
Of course guys, I do not mean that NH rugby is better (nor vice-versa)...I just pointed out that your rugby (specially the Australian) is closer to the rugby league than the NH rugby.
Jon February 17, 2010 6:45 am
If you mean that the players are better at passing and running than that is true. But that has always, always been the case.
In fact Australia was more of a running side in the 1980s.
Campese, the Ella brothers, Farr-Jones. Are you saying that wasn't "classic rugby" too?
And scrummaging is exactly as important, that's why the Australian scrum was able to dominate Wales, England, Sctoland and Ireland last Autumn. Because Australia's scrum is currently very good.
Try telling Robinson, Alexander and Moore scrummagin isn't important.
Sorry mate, your argument is a bit daft.
In fact Australia was more of a running side in the 1980s.
Campese, the Ella brothers, Farr-Jones. Are you saying that wasn't "classic rugby" too?
And scrummaging is exactly as important, that's why the Australian scrum was able to dominate Wales, England, Sctoland and Ireland last Autumn. Because Australia's scrum is currently very good.
Try telling Robinson, Alexander and Moore scrummagin isn't important.
Sorry mate, your argument is a bit daft.
Anonymous February 17, 2010 11:04 am
LOL makes a difference.......'cooper getting robbed!' HOW FUCKING IRONIC IS THAT!!!
tom tongues cameron maxted.
tom tongues cameron maxted.
Anonymous February 17, 2010 4:16 pm
No way was this a classic. Bulls versus Cheetahs was the only great game on the weekend.
Tui February 19, 2010 12:32 am
Digby has a lethal step, why isn't he playing 13!?
luxi February 21, 2010 8:22 am
why was wycliff palu number 27??
is it somethg scial to do with super rugby??
is it somethg scial to do with super rugby??
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