Just how fast is Carlin Isles?


Samu Manoa Huge Hit on Billy Twelvetrees


Tameifuna's huge hit on Michael Hooper


Ben Funnell slamming tackle on Hawkins


Why you should always tackle low


The Human Hurdle Attempt


Richard Hibbard & Kalamafoni double hit


Ben Flower red card for vicious punches


Streaker starts mass brawl after tackle

Thursday, August 19, 2010

Womens Rugby World Cup 2010 launch

Womens Rugby World Cup 2010 launch

A lot of you out there may not realise it, but the women's Rugby World Cup kicks off on Friday in England as the best female rugby players in the world converge to fight it out for the trophy that New Zealand currently holds.

Speaking ahead of the tournament, former World Cup winner and Sky Sports pundit Will Greenwood has said that it will be the biggest moment of the women's careers.

"For athletics it is the Olympics, for cricket it is the Ashes, for men's rugby it is the World Cup and for Women's Rugby it is this," said Greenwood.

"This is it, this is the pinnacle, and they are all looking in tremendous physical condition. There is always time to make the right decisions and you must have total faith in each other, total faith in your coach and trust your fitness to suceed."

The tournament will take place over 17 days and will be broadcast live around five continents, with the UK & Ireland having most games live on Sky Sports. Outside of that, you can watch the matches streamed live on rwcwomens.com . If you are in the UK or Ireland, you can get them delayed online, on demand 24 hours after the game.

There will be pressure on host nation England in front of their home crowd, an experience that Greenwood says will be very special for the women's team, especially as it's the World Cup.

"Our girls go into the tournament as second seeds and clearly the Kiwis are on the horizon and are always the team to beat but there are so many cracking teams and it is going to be a wonderful tournament," he said.

Has anyone got any insider info or predictions on who the top three sides will be in the end?

Time: 03:20
Note: Thanks to the IRB and rwcwomens.com

Posted at 11:34 pm | 69 comments

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Flinto August 19, 2010 9:55 pm

Nice hype. It should be interesting! The standard is far better than most would think, and there's some different countries there which is cool.

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noizyboy August 19, 2010 9:58 pm

Hard to go past the Black Ferns. England second. France third. (Same as last time?)

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noizyboy August 19, 2010 10:07 pm

Man, tough pools -- imagine if this was the Men's Cup: Pool A: Australia, NZ, Wales, South Africa!

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Nerk August 19, 2010 10:46 pm

I wouldn't be upset in the slightest if James' comment was deleted...

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Rob August 19, 2010 10:50 pm

James, it would depend on who you were watching. The top five are six are fairly untouchable by those below - kind of like Ireland trying to beat the All Blacks. Ferns and England are in a class of their own, with France, Canada, and Aussie not far behind - big gap after that. Look at England's highlights on Sportuk.tv - some really nice rugby being played by that bunch, with better quality lines and handling than their men's team!

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Anonymous August 19, 2010 10:51 pm

"They should stay in the kitchen."

I hope this is a joke? :)

But yes, women are shit compared to men at sport.. putting it very bluntly.

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margaret March 16, 2012 1:42 pm

yeah well I'm a girl and at my school i played in the boys rugby team and i got more tries then all the other boys in either team tougher and tackled everyone of the people one there team at least once with out fail and only got tackled myself once so stick that in your stupied kitchen!

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dutchrugbyplayer August 19, 2010 10:54 pm

yeah well, i saw some tri-nations rugby recently and the amount of missed tackles is also shamefull at times. when i saw women 7's in amsterdam in may this year however i was pleasantly surprised by the skill, determination, technique and overall level of play. so it goes to show that james and i most probably saw different matches, ha ha

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dutchrugbyplayer August 19, 2010 10:56 pm

and to anonymous i would like to say: even watched women hockey??

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WelshOsprey August 19, 2010 10:59 pm

Non Evans the wales fullback is hottttt

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TS August 19, 2010 11:45 pm

Rugbydump, I love you, but please no more women's rugby.
With gratitude and respect.
Topshotta

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Anonymous August 20, 2010 12:48 am

wow, the outright sexist vibe on this board is staggering.

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mise August 20, 2010 12:59 am

some of these comments are ridiculous

Some women's sports are better than the men's version to watch (e.g. racket/bat based games)

Some are similar (e.g. track and field)

Some aren't at the level (e.g. ball team sports)

And some of the even more appallingly crude comments here deserve to be deleted - thou they are revelatory in their own right.

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mise August 20, 2010 1:11 am

thou clips of rugby would have made for a more interesting clip

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secondfive August 20, 2010 1:27 am

james said...
They should stay in the kitchen.
james, you should stay in the 19th century.

Anonymous said...
What next, down syndrome rugby?
why not?, you idiot.

For a real Down Syndrome rugby program in Serbia inspired by an Italian club, search this on Youtube:
Zid je sada iza nas KBRK

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james August 20, 2010 2:00 am

"james you should stay in the 19th century"
Where life was better ;)

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Juggernauter August 20, 2010 2:49 am

Call me old fashioned, but I think women's rugby is like men's ballet: just not quite right... But that's my humble opinion of course. I just don't enjoy watching girls tackling each other . let alone some blondies doing the Haka.

But, rugby must be a modern sport.

Cheers

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Alex Davies August 20, 2010 3:30 am

Secondfive, awesome find, that's an inspiring video, i'd like to see more about that on RD in fact

I'd also love to see some highlights of the WRWC on here as they come, I know the style isn't exactly what we're used to, but think of them like the league clips or something of that nature, still very entertaining to watch.

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Rowan DeBues August 20, 2010 3:44 am

Look, obviously men in 98% of sports are better athletes. To the person who said that women are better at racket based games (or more fun to watch), well I'd much rather see Federer vs Nadal or Murray over any womens tournament, and in track and field, I'd take Usain Bolt over Yelena Isembayava.

Having said that though, I think RD should definitely post some highlights, since not only are we in the 21st century and therefore accepting of equality unlike James, but I bet you there are quite a few women who use RD too and they'd probably want to see it.

So guys who are complaining about not wanting to see second-class sports. Thats fine, just look at the post see that its the womens world cup, and either scroll up or scroll down.

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Anonymous August 20, 2010 4:12 am

James and Anonymous, you guys are morons! It is just this type of attitude that keeps sexism prevalent. I personally can't wait to see what the women can do and prove people like yourselves wrong.

As for an inside perspective...watch the ladies from the USA! They will give some of these "leading rugby nations" a good run for their money!

Fa Niete!

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Ned2or3 August 20, 2010 4:22 am

I used to coach womens rugby and while at times it was frustrating (they learnt differently and take discipline differently) the courage and tenacity shown by those girls at the low level of the sport would put many men I have played with to shame.

The injuries they would brush off, and the commitment made astounded me week after week. Womens rugby is awesome and I so want my daughter to play.

Bring on the highlight RD!!!

PS james, piss off

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Xavier August 20, 2010 4:35 am

Being from Porto, in Portugal, I had the opportunity to watch the female universitary world championship, which occurred along with the male version, and there are, at least in 7s, some points to be made in defense of female rugby. Portugal wasn't that bad, and I was really impressed by Russia and Spain.


PS - Nothing against USA female rugby, but as I was trying to explain the rules involved in tackling to a friend, tryed to look for a video on youtube and I get this bunch of american videos, mostly by women, who were just, plain wrong, like you wouldn't see in U12s

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Chris August 20, 2010 5:58 am

James and Anonymous, you guys are morons! It is just this type of attitude that keeps sexism prevalent. I personally can't wait to see what the women can do and prove people like yourselves wrong.

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It's nothing to do with sexism. It's objective truth.

Female rugby isn't very good. Just as any contact sport for females is sub par.

A team of u16 boys would beat a female rugby team.

There's a reason the Heineken Cup final sells out 80k seat stadiums while division 3 teams struggle to attract 100 people. It's because people want quality. Fans want to see the very best up against the very best.

Only the overtly political correct care for womens rugby.

The attendance, or lack of it, will speak for itself.

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Anonymous August 20, 2010 5:59 am

The wales captain has nice boobs ;).. hehe :P..

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secondfive August 20, 2010 7:17 am

@Chris .. why do you need to compare women's rugby to Heineken Cup, is sport only worthwhile when it's played at the highest level? You talk as if the only reason other people play rugby is for your personal benefit as a watcher.
Anybody should be able to play rugby if they want and not be sneered at for doing it. By your logic no women should play any team sport because a team of males could beat them.. that just doesn't make sense.
Women's rugby will always be a different thing in many ways to men's rugby but it still gives the people involved similar satisfaction and rugby's a better sport by being open and inclusive. If you don't like it then don't bother with it, you won't be missed.

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goodNumber10 August 20, 2010 7:46 am

England first, Ferns 2nd.

Home soil, and England beat ferns last time out, and didn't win it with a last gasp try like the game before.

The standard is amazingly good, and it's really entertaining to watch, much more about evasion then the mens game which obviously has a lot more physical domination to it.

Rugbydump, Please make sure you cover this as much as you would any of the other Senior tournaments.

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goodNumber10 August 20, 2010 7:51 am

"Female rugby isn't very good. Just as any contact sport for females is sub par.

A team of u16 boys would beat a female rugby team."

bigoted and ignorant.

I don't see the point in comparing the quality of womens rugby to men's rugby.

It's a different sport played at a different pace and with different skills in the same way 7's is different, and 10's is different and so on. and so on.

If you don't enjoy it don't watch it, if you do then great.

But what's the point in coming on the internet and belittling people who have achieved more in their life then hurling insults on the internet?

rehtroical qquestion there ins't any.

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Anonymous August 20, 2010 7:55 am

LOL, what a great joke!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RD August 20, 2010 8:39 am

Like it or not, women's rugby exists and is well supported and played by many in quite a lot of countries around the world. This tournament is for the best of the best, so they deserve some respect for being there, regardless of what you think of their skill level compared to men.

If you're not interested, as with any post on the site, you can simply ignore it. Some of the comments here are pretty disappointing. We should embrace the fact that more people are playing rugby, regardless of their skill level, gender, race, etc.

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CG August 20, 2010 8:51 am

Chris is an idiot - "It's nothing to do with sexism. It's objective truth." - er, it's objective truth that women should stay in the kitchen? Er, how dumb are you. Secondly, "Only the overtly political correct care for womens rugby." - er, how do you figure that? I care for it because I'm patriotic and love my country and want England to win. I guess you're twisted logic is that it's not at the same level as the International Mens comp? So what? Neither's the U20 World Cup but that's still exciting. Atleast people like you are dying out thank god - if you get to have grand children they will be embarrassed by your behaviour and make excuses on your behalf, "He's a product of an older time, he doesn't understand"....in the mean time, come on England, bring home the women's world cup!!

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Nikks August 20, 2010 9:30 am

I am sorry, but I play U15's girls rugby and the calibre of play is sometimes better than what I have seen of boys rugby. The amount of sexism on here is appalling. I am going to all the England matches and the final and one day I hope to play for my country at women's rugby.

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opfazonk August 20, 2010 9:55 am

i used to coach u19 girls and i can't believe some people's reaction on this clip...

i'm not embarrassed to say that probably 90%, maybe even 100%, of the WRWC players would most likely kick my ass on the pitch :D

i guess those losers making sexist comments probably got their asses kicked by women - off the pitch...

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Anonymous August 20, 2010 10:05 am

Pool A is a pool of death just like it would be in men's rugby. NZ, Oz, Wales and SA: no easy games there.

England or NZ to win. 3rd will be Australia, South Africa or Canada. With this tournament format teams don't get second chances and it does make it harder to predict.

RD, thanks for putting this up. Please put video highlights of the games themselves. Thanks. For the detractors, if you don't like it then don't watch it.

Cheers

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Marc August 20, 2010 10:16 am

I can't say I've watched much women's rugby in my time and as such, I don't know where the teams lie, in terms of rankings... but on the face on it, 'group of death' somehow feels inadequate when it comes to Pool A.

I would hazard a guess that the more unsavoury comments were likely just poor attempts at humour. I think the best thing to do, is just ignore them.

And for those of you that didn't see secondfive's post, above; Youtube:
Zid je sada iza nas KBRK.

Great find secondfive!

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Anonymous August 20, 2010 11:00 am

Ireland to stun the welsh ladies and come in 3rd!!

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Anonymous August 20, 2010 11:26 am

What your doing is unfairly comparing women's rugby to men's as it is today. Women's rugby is still very much in it's infancy stages. Start comparing it with some early international amateur men's rugby and then you can draw some real comparisons.

On the subject of men always being better, at the European Athletic Championships, the best person to watch there by a mile was Jess Ennis in the Heptathlon.

Personally I think England having now beaten the Ferns recently and it being a home tournament will take this one.

Get Highlights please RD

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NiWiTa August 20, 2010 11:49 am

I saw the ferns in a recent warm-up match and they looked pretty damn powerful to me...Overall though as an England supporter I am hoping our ladies take it too them. Also well done to Sweden for fielding a team for the first time in a women's rugby worldcup. NOW FOR THE BIGOTS...

Totally agree with @secondfive and @goodnumber10, will you mono-browed, six-fingered, amoebe-brained numpties take your opinions elsewhere....Thanks N

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Anonymous August 20, 2010 12:30 pm

Rugby is an awesome sport no matter who plays it and rugbydump is a rugby blog.

Hell if there is a midget wordl cup i'd like to see highlights too!

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eric August 20, 2010 12:31 pm

now this is not a joke.. womens rugby need tighter uniforms and...

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Anonymous August 20, 2010 1:52 pm

WHAT IS THERE NOT TO LIKE!!!!!!!!

A female Swedish rugby team!

Women in shorts, Rugby, mud, beer, summers evening......

I think some of you just might be a little funny if you know what I mean.

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Anonymous August 20, 2010 1:55 pm

Eric

Uniforms?

Gestapo like uniform....

You sicko.

or do you mean kit?

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Joshua Bristow August 20, 2010 2:51 pm

I am a man and I love watching women's rugby just as much as the men's. I really hope Rugby Dump continues to cover the world cup :)

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eric August 20, 2010 3:15 pm

ok wtf man english is not my native language ok? i meant kit moron...

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NiWiTa August 20, 2010 3:19 pm

Clapping you boys on with my 6-fingered hands - have to admit the Swedish ladies team look foxy...

Their captain is well nice

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james August 20, 2010 4:05 pm

Next they'll be wanting to get behind the wheel of a car!!
God help us!

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Rob August 20, 2010 4:43 pm

Nice to see some more support for the ladies game via the comments here from the initial onslaught of prejudice.

I know some old geezers might have to be dragged into the 21st century regarding women's participation in the sport, but you'd think they'd be more keen as I think the women's game now is closer to what rugby was like at the men's level many years ago. Yes, they do not have the size and strength of men, but that often translates into more passing and running into space rather than endless pick-and-goes and trying to run people over.

I also coach women and girls and am happy to see the standard getting better from year to year. Given that there is no professional women's rugby, that these internationals get as fit as they are and display the quality they do is quite commendable considering they're also juggling work / school / family.

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ReJLoRd August 20, 2010 5:15 pm

To all the sexist haters out there.. I bet any of these women can knock you to the floor and leave you wondering what your last name is :)

GOGO WOMENS RUGBY!!

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Disco August 20, 2010 5:19 pm

Wales are playing Australia now and it's showing on

http://www.rwcwomens.com/video/index.html

They're showing all the matches live there by the looks of it.

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Anonymous August 20, 2010 6:20 pm

Half time now of a very interesting physical game between England and Ireland. 12 - 0 to the English. http://www.rwcwomens.com/video/index.html

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mawie August 20, 2010 6:39 pm

Speaking from a female rugby players point of view here:

(first off, HEJA SVERIGE! GO SWEDEN! the underdogs :) ni r BST!)

secondly,

Comparing womens rugby against mens is statistically and historically unfair. men have double (triple in sweden) the amount of players here i.e more games i.e more experience. for women its a lot harder, we have to work much longer in order to get to the same level. both clubs and internationally, especially internationally. for fucks sake.

dont be assholes. i know that we are not at all as physical as the men (we do have a few, the majority dont like being so physical. i'm one of the few who are quite physical) so yes, we can find it frustrating as well with missed tackled. frustrated being used LIGHTLY... everyone wants the womens rugby to improve in its standard and popularity especially women. but it takes time. things like this is the way to get there, it should be encouraged. and with sexist idiots like some of you its not entirely encouraging or easy. Women who are serious about their rugby love it just as much as the men, some are even better than those who think so fully of themselves. Coverage like this is needed in order to improve female rugby around the world. To be fair this is the only coverage i have ever seen on rugbydump since i found this site more than three years ago. So shut up with the "no more women rugby please" according to trends we get coverage once every three years, whilst men get coverage every day.

Dont get me wrong, i love watching men due to the fact that they are more clinical and professional and physical. Also because I'm so used to it as well. Seeing women play now and then would be such a nice change. I have NEVER seen a professional female rugby game, which is a shame. LET US have the time to reach the same level, its going to take time since nobody cares as much about the women as they do with men. So as i said before, we have to work longer and harder. I'd love to see it. There isnt only men in this sport guys, I thought men were a bit more mature than this. Chris, "A team of u16 boys would beat a female rugby team." You're being the BIGGEST idiot here. A team of u16 would get hammered by the teams here in sweden. We dont have so many, but why would that matter. The women here are very good at what they're doing. So dont generalize so much. You're making youself look stupid. I can speak for myself. I used to train with the Swedish rugby academy (prep for national teams) and im the only girl in the southern region which means that i have to train with the guys. I never feel left out because my tackles are exactly the same as the guys, so is my understanding and appreciation of the sport. I've outran and tackled down so many guys its not even worth saying that "ALL girls are worse than men". Some men are worse than girls, some girls are worse than men. Ive noticed that it has absolutely nothing to do with the gender. So many guys pussy out just as much as girls. i'm just saying. I can say this since i've played in both u16 (boys) and f17 (girls) teams.

AND LASTLY, all of these women, even the worst ranked in the tournament would kick your asses. I've played with and against these girls (sweden, germany, holland, england e.g) and its the toughest rugby I've ever played. Guys here are terrified by some of the girls here. So stop being so cocky, we deserve some respect. Because we respect you guys.

So thanks RD, for putting this up! Its encouraging for the underdogs in rugby, the women.

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mawie August 20, 2010 6:40 pm

haha my comment was very long, but i'm pissed.

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Nikks August 20, 2010 8:23 pm

I want england to be first but there is so much competition! All the countries could win! I've never seen Kazakhstan or Sweden play but they got through the qualifiers so they must be good!

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Nikks August 20, 2010 8:24 pm

and @Mawie, you are so right :D

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Chris August 20, 2010 9:22 pm

how do you figure that? I care for it because I'm patriotic and love my country and want England to win.

............

Well then you're a brainwashed halfwit, as assumed.

Bigots like you belong in the 1800s with your backwards nationalism and patriosm.

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Anonymous August 20, 2010 9:24 pm

ok so it seems all of a sudden its ok for women to play rugby, personlly im not happy with this but i respect the law

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Anonymous August 20, 2010 10:13 pm

I'll bet that all of the armchair pundits who ridicule women's rugby wouldn't last five mins in any of these matches. Your pulse would be way up in the red, and as you're trying to catch your breath, you're floored by a tackle.

Walk on home boy.

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Clev August 20, 2010 10:14 pm

I don't understand why people have a problem with women's rugby, Some of the hits going in were awesome! I just camer back from the first round of matches and they were good quality.
I coach a women's team and can't stand when people put them down for no reason.
I'd love to see someone tell Maggie Alphonsi she should get back to the kitchen

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james August 20, 2010 11:40 pm

lol at posters actually defending womens rugby and even saying its tougher.
oh women, you so crazy

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Anonymous August 21, 2010 12:28 am

chris and james are both losers. They need to stop embarrassing themselves.

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Dave August 21, 2010 1:31 am

It is great to see the womens game getting more and more exposure.

NZ are going to be unstoppable this year with England being the also ran.

Watch for Canada win pool C and to finish 3rd this year. It is the best team they have fielded ever and France is sputtering already, barely knocking over Sweden.

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edward August 21, 2010 4:53 am

wow, It's amazing how little class and modern attitudes some people have - I've watched a lot of woman's rugby and at the elite level I actually find it more accurate than mens. There is less emphasis on the physical side and more on the skills which makes for a more clinical game. A friend of mine played for the black ferns in the last WC and her skills were better than most men

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Laz August 21, 2010 7:54 am

@ James, unless you're a professional rugby player - which I highly doubt as you're probably 14 years old - then each one of the girls playing in this tournament would be better at rugby than you.

I know it hurts to hear it, but its true. So get to the gym, grow a pair, and good luck in life when a nice girl you like turns out to have played rugby in her spare time. Good luck to her actually!

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noisy neighbour August 21, 2010 8:12 am

Do they play same rules as men? Proper scrums, rucks etc? It would be cool to see some highlights

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Anonymous August 21, 2010 8:44 am

"james" is the epitome of a keyboard warrior.

He should submit an amateur video of some of his sunday league gametime.

I'm sure his mother could take some time out from cleaning his bedroom to record a few minutes.

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Nikks August 21, 2010 11:52 am

@noisy neighbour, we play proper scrums, rucks etc. It's exactly the same as mens just played by women.

And some of you bigots on here should stop saying stuff like that, @Clev, you are so right. If anyone tried to tell Maggie Alphonsi to get back in the kitchen you wouldn't have a head to say it with

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Anonymous August 21, 2010 2:01 pm

First of all I interpret this in the name of my two sisters, thank you for mentioning and support, we are optimistic to deliver good work within the next weeks audit.
In the ambiguous sense a few words to the ladies here. I respect you like a sister and not like a - adopted from a sick stalker - mother child relation. I think real ladies fight against each other by by being unique, by concentrating on your own strength in the "fight" against another lady. You are special. Try to win because of your own achievements and not by mocking down a person in difficulties with a stalker, hacker fighting it out currently against the law. Do you have any idea what it is like?
Give the freedom to make his choice, these are things in life we cannot force.
For the competition, are there equal conditions such as speak to one like you speak to the other, give to one the same personal presence opportunity than to the other?
And in comparison to the men's "fight" remember a person forced and forces himself there and he just got it because of a misunderstanding. There would never have been an election, and if so, would you have participated or gone away?

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Joost August 22, 2010 1:02 am

@ Anonymous: WTF??

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cheyanqui August 26, 2010 4:40 pm

Joost,

I think he/she said that your mother is a hamster, and that your father smells of elderberries.

I think I'll go away before he taunts us a second time.

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margaret March 16, 2012 1:44 pm

i am a girl and love playing rugby and all the girls hate playing with me because of how efficent i am at tackeling and when one boy told me wemon were shit at rugby i tackeled him so hard he broke his arm and cried ! so anyone who thinks girls cant play a boys sport thinkl agian and trey playing me you wont think girls cant play rugny omnce yourve been agenst me i promise and i want to work in fashion so im as girly as it gets !

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