Sunday, September 26, 2010
Edinburgh get first win with victory over Leinster at Murrayfield
Chris Paterson notched up 700 Magners League points as Edinburgh scored four tries through Geoff Cross, Tim Visser, Mark Robertson, and David Blair. Blair kicked five points while Paterson added seven of his own.
Jonathan Sexton was a late exclusion from the game for Leinster, but Edinburgh themselves had a new flyhalf in David Blair, the brother of scrumhalf Mike, as he came in to replace the injured Phil Godman.
Ireland internationals Jamie Heaslip and Rob Kearney scored tries for Leinster in the second half, but they fell short of getting a losing bonus point with a missed conversion with time up. It was a back-to-back loss for Leinster, after they went down to Treviso last weekend.
Edinburgh coach Rob Moffat kept celebrations low key though as he said there was still plenty to do after he was disappointed with the way his side allowed Leinster to score the late tries.
"Its easier to be critical when you win because then it is taken in the right way. When you lose games you have to be careful with what you say, because guys go into their shells and become afraid to try things," he said.
"I thought we switched off with about 15 minutes to go tonight. We cant afford to do that. Weve got to keep going." Referring to Leinster nearly getting a bonus point, Moffat said he would have been very disappointed. "These things matter at the end of the season."
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Anonymous September 26, 2010 9:24 pm
terrible result, leinster are shit this year
WelshOsprey September 26, 2010 9:26 pm
Shocking start for leinster this season
LeinsterBeast September 26, 2010 10:32 pm
Leinster will still level you ospreys out and we do have the best looking players!
Anonymous September 26, 2010 10:37 pm
leinster are actually good this year theyre just being arrogant and not trying for no reason. horgans tackle on visser was one of the most arrogant and lazy pieces of play ive seen. they realised in the last 20 mins that they arent just given results because theyre better on paper they actually have to win.
also viser is an absolute beast
also viser is an absolute beast
Anonymous September 26, 2010 10:42 pm
Leinsters defence so far has been pretty terrible , like a fully permeable membrane, just lets everything in
Box September 26, 2010 11:41 pm
Yeah pretty shocking preformance by Leinster. We could have gotten a bonus point too but Madigan's last minute conversion had just as much of a chance of going over the posts behind him it was that bad.
Ah well, Munster next week should stir some emotions and maybe get them playing well... it is for five in a row after all.
Ah well, Munster next week should stir some emotions and maybe get them playing well... it is for five in a row after all.
Anonymous September 27, 2010 1:06 am
man that conversion was terrible! guy had to be half asleep for that to happen!
Xavier September 27, 2010 1:18 am
Tim visser is great. Shame he can't play for a better national team than the dutch. His try was just a nice piece of experience from a good player
Anonymous September 27, 2010 4:50 am
actually I heard somewhere Visser hasn't been capped by the Dutch yet and he's expressed a desire to play for Scotland
Greiffel September 27, 2010 5:09 am
You probably heard and read about it here - Tim Visser's great individual effort against Ulster
BigBucks September 27, 2010 9:46 am
Leinster should step it up later on in the season - most likely the tactics are different this year with the new coach and take a bit of getting used to.
Atleast the other 3 provinces are on fire tho to make up for it - but id rather leinster play well considering this is the World Cup year
Atleast the other 3 provinces are on fire tho to make up for it - but id rather leinster play well considering this is the World Cup year
Anonymous September 27, 2010 10:01 am
The last 3 mins of the match defending prior to the try by Edinburgh is very good indeed and that last kick by Leinster is piss poor, the bloke was not even trying that hard to get the bonus point. Visser for the Scot!
Anonymous September 27, 2010 11:35 am
What was the attendance like for this, I know murrayfield is large but it looked fairly quiet.
It looked like some decent attacking rugby from Edinburgh. Nice to see Paterson back to form.
What is the deal with Horgan? Is he really trying to avoid national selection. One try was directly his fault, another was saved by a decent cover tackle from 15 but he missed the first tackle, the third he's tackling the guy off the ball and right from the kick off he's getting involved in a bit of afters, what a tool.
It looked like some decent attacking rugby from Edinburgh. Nice to see Paterson back to form.
What is the deal with Horgan? Is he really trying to avoid national selection. One try was directly his fault, another was saved by a decent cover tackle from 15 but he missed the first tackle, the third he's tackling the guy off the ball and right from the kick off he's getting involved in a bit of afters, what a tool.
Conor September 27, 2010 2:58 pm
@Anonymous above couldn't agree more Shane Horgan is an IDIOT, he's 32 he's had it IMO. Leinster have the likes of Fitzgerald(23), Nacewa, the Kearney(24&21) brothers even Andrew Conway(19) who are leaps and bounds ahead of Horgan, in terms of willingness i would of liked to see what they would of done in Horgan's situation. If Schmidt wants to keep with his rotation policy he should throw a few of the young lads in rather then but that 6' 4" piece of shite! Granted Horgan has done great things for both Leinster and Ireland in the past, but I'm sick of Irish teams choosing players that are past their sell by date based on the fact they had one good game durning the season. Let the young lads in on the bench they are the ones with a point to prove!
Anonymous September 27, 2010 5:46 pm
Here are some things I've noticed about Leinster so far this season that I didn't notice last season:
1. Playing with no heart. Either they're arrogant or they're being lazy. In the Treviso games, there were a few young lads. The loss is more understandable. But against Edinburgh, there were plenty of experienced players on the field and bench. I don't get why this has started happening.
2. Slow to get to the breakdown. Players are consistently taking too much time to get to the mauls. It's simply annoying just watching them trundle over to the mauls at a snails pace. The players are also slow at getting to the fringes of the mauls so they are easier to start an attack from for the opposition.
3. Running the ball with no momentum consistently. The backs keep taking the ball at a standstill and they only make progress every now and again where a player makes a good jinking run, but that's not enough.
4. Leinster's defence was one of the most impressive two years ago, and not too shabby last year as well. It was like running at a brick wall. This year, it's leaking backs and forwards through all the game.
I'm not an expert or anything, just a rugby fan, but even I can see massive holes in their play. I don't see how their current management hasn't taken them up on it.
-KG
1. Playing with no heart. Either they're arrogant or they're being lazy. In the Treviso games, there were a few young lads. The loss is more understandable. But against Edinburgh, there were plenty of experienced players on the field and bench. I don't get why this has started happening.
2. Slow to get to the breakdown. Players are consistently taking too much time to get to the mauls. It's simply annoying just watching them trundle over to the mauls at a snails pace. The players are also slow at getting to the fringes of the mauls so they are easier to start an attack from for the opposition.
3. Running the ball with no momentum consistently. The backs keep taking the ball at a standstill and they only make progress every now and again where a player makes a good jinking run, but that's not enough.
4. Leinster's defence was one of the most impressive two years ago, and not too shabby last year as well. It was like running at a brick wall. This year, it's leaking backs and forwards through all the game.
I'm not an expert or anything, just a rugby fan, but even I can see massive holes in their play. I don't see how their current management hasn't taken them up on it.
-KG
Anonymous September 28, 2010 1:12 pm
tim visser can play for scotland in two years time. he's def the best performing winger in the magners league atm!
Anonymous September 28, 2010 5:13 pm
Irish players over the hill but still being selected for no reason:
Horgan (McFadden, Conway, O'Malley all better and can cover other pos, interesting to see when Leinster have fully fit backline whether he's picked)
Horan (Worst prop at Munster out of 8 or so, but will be 1st choice in Hcup)
Hayes (need I explain)
O'Gara (granted he still can turn it on, and has made couple of tackles this season, but still huge liability)
D'arcy (since the Lions has been a different player to the 1 that went) and
O'Driscoll (ok, there is a reason but, ire's worst performer v Aus and completely disinterested v Edinburgh)
Horgan (McFadden, Conway, O'Malley all better and can cover other pos, interesting to see when Leinster have fully fit backline whether he's picked)
Horan (Worst prop at Munster out of 8 or so, but will be 1st choice in Hcup)
Hayes (need I explain)
O'Gara (granted he still can turn it on, and has made couple of tackles this season, but still huge liability)
D'arcy (since the Lions has been a different player to the 1 that went) and
O'Driscoll (ok, there is a reason but, ire's worst performer v Aus and completely disinterested v Edinburgh)
Anonymous September 28, 2010 6:48 pm
"O'Driscoll (ok, there is a reason but, ire's worst performer v Aus and completely disinterested v Edinburgh)"
Agree with all but that. O'Driscoll's worst day is another player's average day, and they are uncommon. Due to his current style of play, when he does have a good day, it often goes unnoticed by 90% of spectators.
-KG
Agree with all but that. O'Driscoll's worst day is another player's average day, and they are uncommon. Due to his current style of play, when he does have a good day, it often goes unnoticed by 90% of spectators.
-KG
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