Tuesday, September 28, 2010
Eliota Fuimaono-Sapolu try & Brett Deacon vs Tim Payne punch-up
A tense Aviva Premiership game took place between Gloucester and Wasps at Kingsholm on the weekend, with the home side taking it 22-20 after two big Nicky Robinson penalties. Featured here is the try of the match from Eliota Fuimaono-Sapolu, and the fight between forwards Tim Payne and Brett Deacon.
You can view the rest of the highlights from the game on the e-player on the sidebar, as well as highlights of all the other Premiership matches. These two incidents in particular were requested as many of you wanted to see them again.
The try to Fuimaono-Sapolu was a bit of a strange one as he managed to brush off four would-be tacklers before gassing it to the line. It was a mix of lackluster defending and determined, powerful running. The hand-offs were pretty decent too. Overall, it was a great try from a young guy who looked impressive all afternoon.
The second clip shown here is off the skirmish that broke out between Tim Payne and Brett Deacon, after it looked as though Payne had stamped on a player on the ground, only for Deacon to stamp on him in what looked like a schoolyard disagreement.
It soon got serious as punches were thrown, but it ended as quickly as it started, with both players calming down for referee Andrew Small to send them to the sideline for ten minutes.
Gloucester replacement flyhalf Nicky Robinson landed two great penalty kicks from the same spot late in the second half to take them into the lead, while Wasps flyhalf Dave Walder came up short with a long kick of his own that landed inches below the crossbar. That meant Gloucester took it at the death, picking up their second win of the season.
Also, these two clips are posted as a playlist, so you can either watch them one after the other, or skip around as you please.
Posted at 10:34 am | 41 comments
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Laz September 28, 2010 9:51 am
Good try!
Nice bit of aggro too. Pity nothing landed :)
Nice bit of aggro too. Pity nothing landed :)
rodofle September 28, 2010 10:04 am
What an embarassement for n13 (who's he?) he was thrown away like a 12 years old child...
Flooz September 28, 2010 10:57 am
what poor defence from wasps...
with islanders, u should never tackle them high as they are very powerful with their arms.
concerning deacon - payne clash, the 2 yellow are deserved. But payne will be happy with that as he clearly began in stamping a gloucester player leg on the ground
with islanders, u should never tackle them high as they are very powerful with their arms.
concerning deacon - payne clash, the 2 yellow are deserved. But payne will be happy with that as he clearly began in stamping a gloucester player leg on the ground
Anonymous September 28, 2010 11:23 am
I'd say Deacon looked like he landed a punch.... had payne stumbling...
as for the try, if he hadnt got it he'd have been very greedy looking...
as for the try, if he hadnt got it he'd have been very greedy looking...
Jimmymc1 September 28, 2010 11:40 am
13 is dom waldouk. ive seen rocky elsom do that to tuilagi, so its a matter of the tacklers body position, which was bad in this case!
vinniechan September 28, 2010 11:45 am
This clip showed why Tom Varndell, with all that flair failed to establish himself in England: his defense is half hearted at best and u can't expect him to take responsibilities.
That said, it was an embarassing defence from Wasps as a whole as if nobody wanted to make the cover hoping someone else would do the job (that's not even to mention the hand off).
That said, it was an embarassing defence from Wasps as a whole as if nobody wanted to make the cover hoping someone else would do the job (that's not even to mention the hand off).
t0m0 September 28, 2010 12:38 pm
Tim Payne and Brett Deacon offer nothing more on a rugby field than their bodyweight.
How either of them got selected i have no idea. Zero talent and too much gym - the problem for many an England forward in the past 5 years.
That aside, i often wonder if it is awkward when two players who have previously fought meet up at (god forbid) their next England training?
How either of them got selected i have no idea. Zero talent and too much gym - the problem for many an England forward in the past 5 years.
That aside, i often wonder if it is awkward when two players who have previously fought meet up at (god forbid) their next England training?
NiWiTa September 28, 2010 1:28 pm
nice running for the try but poor defence from wasps - agree with @vinniechan...Varndell just goes missing when it comes to tackling and he is not in the mood
Zavala September 28, 2010 2:03 pm
Awful defence and rubbish fight. A poor indictment of English Rugby at the moment.
John F September 28, 2010 3:11 pm
It is a collective failure for the try though. I'm not sure that Varndell didn't make the tackle because he didn't want to but because he's got his eye on another man. Most of all, it looks like no-one is sure what to do, or what they should be doing. Epic defensive failure at the professional level. Most of all, they are shuffling across the field rather than moving up in defence, whatever happened to Sean Edwards' rush defence. To be honest all the tries were down to defensive errors in this match, quite a poor quality match in that respect.
Anonymous September 28, 2010 4:14 pm
interesting how no one has said waldouck's name because he's the one who missed the tackle, really overated player if you ask me.
goodNumber10 September 28, 2010 5:31 pm
"What an embarassement for n13 (who's he?) he was thrown away like a 12 years old child..."
He's got nothing to be embarrased about, as it's nowt to do with the 13, it was fluetys tackle to make and he drifted off the man allowing him to blindside Waldouk, who was rightly so drifting out onto the winger.
He just trips over his own feet as he's turning back off balance when he gest the shove.
He's got nothing to be embarrased about, as it's nowt to do with the 13, it was fluetys tackle to make and he drifted off the man allowing him to blindside Waldouk, who was rightly so drifting out onto the winger.
He just trips over his own feet as he's turning back off balance when he gest the shove.
John F September 28, 2010 6:01 pm
Initially it definitely looks Flutey's tackle but the Gloucester player runs so far sideways that basically either Waldouck or Varndell could have tackled him.
As for Waldouck, he runs some superb lines and his defence is pretty good. I've rarely heard opposition fans call him overrated. He's been making a very good impact for the past four seasons. Wasps on the other hand have been inconsistent for the past two and to a lesser extent the past four.
Like I said, I can't explain this one. None of them seemed to know what to do, lack of organisation and standing off. Pathetic effort collectively as a team.
As for Waldouck, he runs some superb lines and his defence is pretty good. I've rarely heard opposition fans call him overrated. He's been making a very good impact for the past four seasons. Wasps on the other hand have been inconsistent for the past two and to a lesser extent the past four.
Like I said, I can't explain this one. None of them seemed to know what to do, lack of organisation and standing off. Pathetic effort collectively as a team.
rosh September 28, 2010 7:21 pm
i'm english, but after all the northern hemisphere fans accused super 14 of poor defence, this is embarrassing
Anonymous September 28, 2010 7:26 pm
I imagine deacon will probably get a citing for that, as he seemed to intiate and continue the fight. good coupla sluggers though!
Anonymous September 28, 2010 7:48 pm
Shit I'm kiwi and I hardly thought it was an indictment of English rugby. Exciting try and a good bit of biffo. I do hate when people comment on the defense of try segments though. I mean, a try was scored, obviously someone missed a tackle- that's the whole point of rugby, beating tackles. By that logic Jonah's classic try was rubbish because Catt let him run over top of him.
Anonymous September 28, 2010 7:53 pm
I think this clip has emphasised how much of a pus5y Tom Varndell really is, in the first clip his tackling is poor as usual,
then in the second when hes clearly standing a yard away from the two players brawling he does not even bother to help out his teammate or atleast break it up!
then in the second when hes clearly standing a yard away from the two players brawling he does not even bother to help out his teammate or atleast break it up!
Nick September 28, 2010 8:49 pm
This match pretty much summed up Varndell, put the ball in his hand and give him 30m to run and he'll paste most players. Ask him to use some basic rugby skills and he's knackered. He tries to use some bully boy tactics to intimidate his opposite number but it often fails. I'll never forget that tour to Australia where he really got found out.
Deacon has actually been fairly good for Glos. He's got himself about the place and his workrate has been impressive. On the other hand, it's the same old rubbish from Payne that I've come to expect, he deserved a few jabs for that. Fortunately for England with Cole, Mahler and Doran Jones on the fringes of the squad and Sheridan coming back to form we don't have to see his inept scrummaging for much longer.
Deacon has actually been fairly good for Glos. He's got himself about the place and his workrate has been impressive. On the other hand, it's the same old rubbish from Payne that I've come to expect, he deserved a few jabs for that. Fortunately for England with Cole, Mahler and Doran Jones on the fringes of the squad and Sheridan coming back to form we don't have to see his inept scrummaging for much longer.
John F September 28, 2010 10:23 pm
That was 4 years ago when he was 21 in Australia. There's some rubbish being spouted about Varndell just because of this one clip. As for intimidating a player? Eh?
Anonymous September 28, 2010 11:45 pm
We need some Bakkies Botha to teach these two, small brits how to fight.
secondfive September 29, 2010 12:31 am
Sure there were three guys who could've tackled him but he kept them guessing with subtle dummies, shifts in direction and a nice turn of speed for a few metres when it mattered. A team can defend well all day and still get done by a great piece of running rugby.
Noms. September 29, 2010 12:35 am
@John F, your an idiot, it was a sensational try.
and Bakkies is just a lazy thug with the mind of a 4 year old suffering ADD. He slaps, headbutts and claws his way through games and then looks stunned when he is reported and banned!
and Bakkies is just a lazy thug with the mind of a 4 year old suffering ADD. He slaps, headbutts and claws his way through games and then looks stunned when he is reported and banned!
Nicko September 29, 2010 1:20 am
I agree, it was a crazy try...
Instead of ranting on about poor defense, maybe we should look at how well the player did to have the wasp line second guessing then bust through... Classy stuff.
Instead of ranting on about poor defense, maybe we should look at how well the player did to have the wasp line second guessing then bust through... Classy stuff.
Anonymous September 29, 2010 3:30 am
what was varndell doing? looked like he was trying to give the guy a hug.
Nick September 29, 2010 8:18 am
'That was 4 years ago when he was 21 in Australia. There's some rubbish being spouted about Varndell just because of this one clip. As for intimidating a player? Eh?'
Have you watched him play recently? He's always involved in off the ball stuff. He tried to push around Tuilagi against leicester and then got smashed by him later in the match. During this match he got tackled into touch by Sharples and then started trying to push him around. Sharples had the common sense just to laugh him off. I think he's under the impression that he can make up for a lack of defensive awareness with this.
The whole point with the Aussie thing was that he went away on a tour and against top class opposition his lack of skills became apparent really quickly and it doesn't look like things have improved. If he ever got a call up would you put your money on him against Tri Nations wingers, not a chance.
Have you watched him play recently? He's always involved in off the ball stuff. He tried to push around Tuilagi against leicester and then got smashed by him later in the match. During this match he got tackled into touch by Sharples and then started trying to push him around. Sharples had the common sense just to laugh him off. I think he's under the impression that he can make up for a lack of defensive awareness with this.
The whole point with the Aussie thing was that he went away on a tour and against top class opposition his lack of skills became apparent really quickly and it doesn't look like things have improved. If he ever got a call up would you put your money on him against Tri Nations wingers, not a chance.
Jecks September 29, 2010 8:35 am
Noms, Bakkies Botha is a legend, a world cup winner and one half of the most dominant locking partnership ever. He's certainly accomplished more than you.
NiWiTa September 29, 2010 12:12 pm
@Jecks - fairpoint but perhaps we should also not forget his flying head-butt on the somewhat smaller Jimmy Cowan (admittedly a annoying wee shite as all scrum-halves are) and then his attempted flying headbutt/murder on Gio Aplon in the side if the ruck, off his feet and into the side of Gio's head.
Never seen him go toe to toe with someone the same size in a fair fight. John Smit and Victor Matfield are players a Saffa can be proud of. Bakkies Botha is a violent thug who has no place on the field unless you think injuring people outwith the laws of Rugby or indeed most countries laws is acceptable....
Just my opinion though :P
Never seen him go toe to toe with someone the same size in a fair fight. John Smit and Victor Matfield are players a Saffa can be proud of. Bakkies Botha is a violent thug who has no place on the field unless you think injuring people outwith the laws of Rugby or indeed most countries laws is acceptable....
Just my opinion though :P
Von September 29, 2010 5:19 pm
Very unpleasant from Payne there, stamping on the lower leg of a bloke who's prone on the ground and unable to even see the b'stard that did it. I say fair play to Deacon for spotting it and giving the coward a taste of his own medicine. The fighting itself was won by Deacon who landed the only punch of the exchange: a nice left hook that actually made Payne reel backwards.
@ t0m0 towards the top of these comments: you're mistaking Brett Deacon here for his brother Louis. "Little" Deacon has only played for England at age group level.
@ t0m0 towards the top of these comments: you're mistaking Brett Deacon here for his brother Louis. "Little" Deacon has only played for England at age group level.
Von September 29, 2010 5:27 pm
Anonymous said...
I think this clip has emphasised how much of a pus5y Tom Varndell really is, in the first clip his tackling is poor as usual,
then in the second when hes clearly standing a yard away from the two players brawling he does not even bother to help out his teammate or atleast break it up!
If you want to stick your head between Payne and Deacon's swinging fists I'm sure they'd be only too keen to accommodate it. If you ask me Varndell was well off keeping out of it.
I think this clip has emphasised how much of a pus5y Tom Varndell really is, in the first clip his tackling is poor as usual,
then in the second when hes clearly standing a yard away from the two players brawling he does not even bother to help out his teammate or atleast break it up!
If you want to stick your head between Payne and Deacon's swinging fists I'm sure they'd be only too keen to accommodate it. If you ask me Varndell was well off keeping out of it.
Noms. September 29, 2010 11:18 pm
@Jecks your obviously a South African Puck-Slut who turns a blind eye to cheap shots on the rugby field. Matfield is the real hero of that partnership, Botha is a terrible lock who gets carried every game and occasionally makes a decent hit.
And as far as him accomplishing more than me.... That's not to hard considering I'm a 21 year old playing 2nd grade and studying business, so you'll understand if I'm not that offended, lol.
@NiWiTa good to see someone with some proper rugby knowledge, the Botha incidents speak for them self!
And as far as him accomplishing more than me.... That's not to hard considering I'm a 21 year old playing 2nd grade and studying business, so you'll understand if I'm not that offended, lol.
@NiWiTa good to see someone with some proper rugby knowledge, the Botha incidents speak for them self!
Anonymous September 30, 2010 1:12 am
I couldn't agree more, Botha has been riding the Matfield ride his entire career and putting in the cheap shots on the side.
I'd love to see him go toe to toe with Brad Thorn or Rocky Elsom.
But we all know that's never going to happen with that pussy slapping and headbutting halfback's from behind! Lol
I'd love to see him go toe to toe with Brad Thorn or Rocky Elsom.
But we all know that's never going to happen with that pussy slapping and headbutting halfback's from behind! Lol
Anonymous September 30, 2010 5:41 am
no ones commented on the fact that the touch judge got the report completely wrong saying that black 1 did the stomping when clearly it was red 8 - what if the wasps guy hadnt retaliated? would he have been carded?
Maverick September 30, 2010 2:06 pm
Love how Varndell just watches. He knows not to get involved in a scrap with a Deacon brother!
Jono October 01, 2010 4:20 am
Honestly, I'm not a South African, but I think he wouldn't do too badly in a scrap with Thorn or Elsom.
He may not win, but it wouldn't scare him to have a go.
He's a lunatic, with poor discipline, but you can't call him soft, he's not.
He may not win, but it wouldn't scare him to have a go.
He's a lunatic, with poor discipline, but you can't call him soft, he's not.
Benson October 01, 2010 8:12 am
Not sure how the Saffa-bashing started up on this thread again..
Okay, just read that idiot anonymous comment about small brits. One muppet who lets down the team, as usual.
My opinion is that Botha most definitely carries his weight and doesn't need Matfield to string him along. They do compliment eachother, but to insinuate that Botha wouldn't be chosen if Matfield wasnt around is absolutely thoughtless and misinformed.
Don't base you opinions on the player on less than ten dirty incidents in his long and successful career.
Headcase for sure, but a great, old fashioned rugby player too.
Okay, just read that idiot anonymous comment about small brits. One muppet who lets down the team, as usual.
My opinion is that Botha most definitely carries his weight and doesn't need Matfield to string him along. They do compliment eachother, but to insinuate that Botha wouldn't be chosen if Matfield wasnt around is absolutely thoughtless and misinformed.
Don't base you opinions on the player on less than ten dirty incidents in his long and successful career.
Headcase for sure, but a great, old fashioned rugby player too.
John F October 01, 2010 12:38 pm
@Nick
"Have you watched him play recently?"
Yes, I'm a Wasps fan. Some scuffles happen but I don't recognise the player you describe. Ok, so you don't rate him, but using the example of 4 years ago and then saying that he hasn't improved is clearly rubbish.
"Have you watched him play recently?"
Yes, I'm a Wasps fan. Some scuffles happen but I don't recognise the player you describe. Ok, so you don't rate him, but using the example of 4 years ago and then saying that he hasn't improved is clearly rubbish.
Anonymous March 23, 2011 10:31 am
tom varndell just watched as his team mate was getting punched......nice to know he hd his back
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