Sunday, October 10, 2010
Sebastien Chabal's big tackle on Jamie Heaslip
Leinster got their Heineken Cup campaign off to a positive start as they beat Racing Metro 38-22 with a stylish performance in the Pool 2 opener at the RDS. The match was played at a great pace and there were plenty of big tackles. This is just one of them from the opening passage of play.
Leinster scored five tries while the visitors only managed the one in what was a fascinating and enjoyable game to watch. Both sides bashed eachother on numbers occasions, with French talisman Sebastien Chabal putting in the first big hit of the match early on.
It was Jamie Heaslip who was on the receiving end as Leinster started well with a serious of pick and drives before releasing the backs. By the time it got to Heaslip out wide, Chabal had lined up and put in a quality tackle, smashing back the big British & Irish Lions number eight.
There were plenty of other notable highlights, including Rob Kearneys try, Francois Steyns massive penalty, and then a few hits from Isa Nacewa that actually went in on Chabal himself. If theres time over the next few days Ill try get something up showing all of them. For now, heres another nice Chabal moment for the archives.
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Rich_W October 10, 2010 3:01 pm
As greenwood said, chabal is an absolute mutant
John F October 10, 2010 4:31 pm
Good hit but I thought Heaslip was much the superior player yesterday. Chabal doesn't have the all round skill set of a top top no.8. We've known that much for years but when it comes to game changers and leaders, yesterday Leinster had all the cards. I suppose it is unsurprising as Racing Metro were only promoted in 2009 but for all the money they've spent I think they'll struggle to make an impression on the top top side sides.
mise October 10, 2010 4:51 pm
what about Nascewa's hit on chabal!?! That was animal for such a (comparably) small guy.
naaat October 10, 2010 5:26 pm
British and Irish Lions number 8 Jamie Heaslip "the greatest number 8 the world has ever seen" Gets munched(fucken eaten). jamie who..?
Anonymous October 10, 2010 6:00 pm
Chabal got a nice round of applause from the Leinster crowd when he went off after 52 minutes. A great tackle on Heaslip no doubt but Leinster were superior throughout and very worthy winners. Apart from their try, Racing did not have a backs move of any note and it's hard to believe they are top of the Franch 14. Chabal tries to get them going forward and Steyn is some kicker - apart from that, nada!
fry October 10, 2010 6:26 pm
Anyone know why they were at the RDS again when they just reopened Lansdowne?
number yte October 10, 2010 6:33 pm
Anon above, Do you know that Racing-metro missed its two flyhalfs for this game? The Flyhalf was actually the scrumhalf substitute... Maybe the game would has been different if Hernandez, Wisniewski or Fall were here. But it is not an excuse, Leinster were really stronger yesterday.
Anonymous October 10, 2010 6:47 pm
@Fry - RDS is their home ground and so nearly all of their games will be played there. The new Lansdowne will only really be used for internationals or the larger club games!
Anonymous October 10, 2010 7:30 pm
Take nothing from the tackle, but heaslip did well to place the ball back...and did get up well...so to 'naaat' i'd hardly say he was munched or 'eaten alive' but nice try though
DH October 10, 2010 7:33 pm
Pity he can't hit a ruck like that. At one stage his pack were breaking their bollocks driving the ball towards the line and he was over the other side of the pitch looking for a crossfield kick. He coughed up possession in the tackle a few times too. He really offers nothing to the team except the odd big hit. This was a great tackle though in fairness.
Anonymous October 10, 2010 8:35 pm
yeah it didn't seem to have much of an effect on Heaslip, pity for naaat to make such a dumb and uninformed comment. Racing were disappointing to say the least.
@Fry & Anon, the RDS is not actually Leinsters home ground, it's an adopted home ground. Their proper home ground is Donnybrook. When Donnybrook was having a new stand built a few years back Leinster moved to the RDS. It's a suitable little ground that is only 10 mins walk from Donnybrook. It has a great atmosphere and is always full to near its 18,000 capacity, even for Magners League. It would not make sense to play Heinken pool games in Lansdowne as it would only be half full. Occasionally a big game is played there but in general terms it's better to have a full house in the RDS than a half full Lansdowne. They have not returned to Donnybrook because the RDS has a better capacity at present.
@Fry & Anon, the RDS is not actually Leinsters home ground, it's an adopted home ground. Their proper home ground is Donnybrook. When Donnybrook was having a new stand built a few years back Leinster moved to the RDS. It's a suitable little ground that is only 10 mins walk from Donnybrook. It has a great atmosphere and is always full to near its 18,000 capacity, even for Magners League. It would not make sense to play Heinken pool games in Lansdowne as it would only be half full. Occasionally a big game is played there but in general terms it's better to have a full house in the RDS than a half full Lansdowne. They have not returned to Donnybrook because the RDS has a better capacity at present.
John F October 10, 2010 8:36 pm
The classic Chabal display was that international in NZ in 2007 when he smashed Chris Masoe and broke Ali Williams jaw but lost the ball almost every time when he went into contact. He's probably worth his wages in marketing value to Racing Metro, not that their President is short for cash, but he's not exactly got an all-round top game.
Anonymous October 10, 2010 9:34 pm
Great hit. Too bad Heaslip and the rest of the team kicked Chabal's ass until he got subbed...
Anonymous October 10, 2010 9:35 pm
hmm, contact with the shoulder, arms up but not actually wrapping. Can someone please explain how this differs from any number of "dangerous" tackles that apparently warrant a "red" followed by a "lengthy" suspension.
Jono October 10, 2010 10:01 pm
The law doesn't talk about 'wrapping'.
That word has no real meaning under the laws.
The law simpyl states that a player must make an attempt to 'grasp' the other player.
Just an attempt, they don't vene have to suceed for it be legal.
Textbook tackle.
As people have said though, Chabal is definatly a one-trick pony.
Great at the big hits and makes the odd decent run, but doesn't really have anything else goin for him.
That word has no real meaning under the laws.
The law simpyl states that a player must make an attempt to 'grasp' the other player.
Just an attempt, they don't vene have to suceed for it be legal.
Textbook tackle.
As people have said though, Chabal is definatly a one-trick pony.
Great at the big hits and makes the odd decent run, but doesn't really have anything else goin for him.
mise October 10, 2010 10:06 pm
Its also noteworthy that Racing's try only happened when one of the Leinster centres (BOD) pulled his hamstring (Clearly visible in replays).
That does not say much for Racing's penetration at all, esp as Leinster's defence has been poor enough in the Magners.
That does not say much for Racing's penetration at all, esp as Leinster's defence has been poor enough in the Magners.
killybegs smells lik October 10, 2010 10:14 pm
People putting down Chabal, I wonder if they watched the game...
Yeah, he's no Harinordoquy at 8 or Burger at flank, but he had, by most measures, a decent game. In fact, Jamie Heaslip - a world-class number 8 - didn't really have a great game either, nor did he put in any especially big hits. So what's the point?
Isa Nacewa, though. I hope he stays at Leinster for a long time to come...what a great asset he is.
Yeah, he's no Harinordoquy at 8 or Burger at flank, but he had, by most measures, a decent game. In fact, Jamie Heaslip - a world-class number 8 - didn't really have a great game either, nor did he put in any especially big hits. So what's the point?
Isa Nacewa, though. I hope he stays at Leinster for a long time to come...what a great asset he is.
Anonymous October 10, 2010 10:50 pm
Nice tackle. Love to see the big boys collide!
Heaslip is over-rated though. Good player, who has a great set of skills and attributes but seriously lacks the dynamism and athletisism of other no. 8's.
Chabal lacks almost everything but his beard is immense. That in itself justifies his plaudits.
Heaslip is over-rated though. Good player, who has a great set of skills and attributes but seriously lacks the dynamism and athletisism of other no. 8's.
Chabal lacks almost everything but his beard is immense. That in itself justifies his plaudits.
Anonymous October 10, 2010 10:52 pm
^^^^
Did you read the comments, in all honesty, i think they were very reasonable.....
I like chabal, he has a good presence and plays hard, but like everyone has said, his game is somewhat lacking at times...
...In all honesty the way you are replying to the comments it seems like if i said 'peter stringer wouldnt make a very good second row' you'd still be 'offended'..
Did you read the comments, in all honesty, i think they were very reasonable.....
I like chabal, he has a good presence and plays hard, but like everyone has said, his game is somewhat lacking at times...
...In all honesty the way you are replying to the comments it seems like if i said 'peter stringer wouldnt make a very good second row' you'd still be 'offended'..
Anonymous October 10, 2010 10:53 pm
p.s my comment with the ^^^^ was to killybegs or whoever it is..
Anonymous October 10, 2010 10:55 pm
Check out that ball presentation after the hit, textbook
killybegs smells lik October 11, 2010 12:41 am
Dunno how I came off as "offended", nor do I get your parallel about Stringer (because no, he wouldn't make a good anything other than the pesky no. 9 which he is great at), but whatever.
My comment was more directed towards the few who were saying Chabal doesn't really offer anything except an "odd" hard tackle, and I was pointing out that he did offer more than that during the game. I'm not saying Lievremont should be starting him against the ABs or anything, just that in this game, he did what a number 8 should while he was on the pitch.
My comment was more directed towards the few who were saying Chabal doesn't really offer anything except an "odd" hard tackle, and I was pointing out that he did offer more than that during the game. I'm not saying Lievremont should be starting him against the ABs or anything, just that in this game, he did what a number 8 should while he was on the pitch.
Anonymous October 11, 2010 1:33 am
Heaslip is a thug. we all remember him kneeing a poor kiwi in the head....
Anonymous October 11, 2010 2:39 am
Fry : The game would have been at the Aviva, but on the Friday night Ireland were playing Russia in the Euro Cup 2012 qualifiers @ the Aviva Stadium - they wouldn't have set up the pitch markings / goalposts etc.. by 13:30 the next day.
Maybe for the next match, depends on the visitors also - unfortunately the french don't really travel in numbers.. unless it's the national side.
Maybe for the next match, depends on the visitors also - unfortunately the french don't really travel in numbers.. unless it's the national side.
Jono October 11, 2010 4:54 am
Not saying Chabal is a bad player, just a one trick pony, in that mosty of his game is built around his inspiring defence, and his fearless (but not always very effective) running up the middle.
Bandero October 11, 2010 5:47 am
I love how everyone likes to have their say on Chabal when most of you have just seen him play a couple international games and probably no club rugby, at least in the last two years...
He's been a super captain for racing and has lead them from just promoting to the top of the top 14 in less than two years, I say pay a little respect to the guy.
About the match: Leinster were superb, Racing played their first game ever in the H-Cup, against one of the best teams in Europe and with two very important players missing so I think the scoreline is not too bad...
He's been a super captain for racing and has lead them from just promoting to the top of the top 14 in less than two years, I say pay a little respect to the guy.
About the match: Leinster were superb, Racing played their first game ever in the H-Cup, against one of the best teams in Europe and with two very important players missing so I think the scoreline is not too bad...
Flooz October 11, 2010 8:48 am
A tackle typically "chabalien" :)
He always put a lot of heart and commitment in his game, even if he had become a commercial icone.
Concerning the match, Leinster were superior and it wasn't a surprise.
It was the bapteme of Racing with the H-Cup and i think that the absence of Hernandez and wisniewski didn't helpin the creativity. Fillol plays normally at scrum...
That said, Leinster will be one of the usual favorites, but be careful to racingmen, they can be a dangerous threat for Clermont or Saracens in this "death pool"
He always put a lot of heart and commitment in his game, even if he had become a commercial icone.
Concerning the match, Leinster were superior and it wasn't a surprise.
It was the bapteme of Racing with the H-Cup and i think that the absence of Hernandez and wisniewski didn't helpin the creativity. Fillol plays normally at scrum...
That said, Leinster will be one of the usual favorites, but be careful to racingmen, they can be a dangerous threat for Clermont or Saracens in this "death pool"
Flooz October 11, 2010 8:52 am
Ps: i'm ok with few comments on Heaslip.
He is a fantastic N8 but it's true that he often gives a knee kick to every players who had scored tries (vs Toulouse, Boks, AB's...). A bit coward and never sanctionned
He is a fantastic N8 but it's true that he often gives a knee kick to every players who had scored tries (vs Toulouse, Boks, AB's...). A bit coward and never sanctionned
Anonymous October 11, 2010 10:12 am
And for the record, Fall Wisniewski hernandez didn't play but also chavancy who's one of the best french center in defence and ASKLEY clark who played center is actually a flanker, so I wasn't expecting to much from that back line!!
NiWiTa October 11, 2010 12:23 pm
Indeed Flooz was watching the NZ game where Heaslip put in the knee and it was pretty much utterly disgraceful....glad he got red-carded for that. Shame as he is a bloody good 8.
....re Chabal I've never seem him play regularly enough to comment on his wider game. I love that the big fella can still fling a bell-ringer of a tackle though :)
....re Chabal I've never seem him play regularly enough to comment on his wider game. I love that the big fella can still fling a bell-ringer of a tackle though :)
Mike October 11, 2010 12:40 pm
That was a great hit alright. Heaslip is a world-class 8, but he was correctly sent off against the ABs, and that is coming from an Irish fan. I have to disagree with Flooz though - Heaslip does not have a reputation for being a dirty player. Of course, if he gets in trouble a few more times, then he will earn that reputation.
jay October 11, 2010 12:46 pm
The chabal chapter over and over again. The media made him but again he's always been just a decent player with from time to time a very powerful break or tackle.
Same thing as when he was with Bourgoin (short hair and a light beard), got better within the english championship and yet he's far way from the best flankers of the world (mainly due to his lack of hands and technique).
SO yeah good offensive tackle but that's that.... just like when he was 20 or rather before the media decided to make him popular.
Same thing as when he was with Bourgoin (short hair and a light beard), got better within the english championship and yet he's far way from the best flankers of the world (mainly due to his lack of hands and technique).
SO yeah good offensive tackle but that's that.... just like when he was 20 or rather before the media decided to make him popular.
Flooz October 11, 2010 1:44 pm
To Mike and others,
i didn' say Heaslip is a dirty player, i say that it's a pity that this very good player often do this type of action.
Sorry, I had forgotten that he received a red card vs AB's.
But i recall few matchs vs Boks (with the lions) and many others (with leinster or ireland), where he always fall with his knees on the player's back after a try.
I just find it ridiculous, dangerous and unnecessary.
Just have a look to his reaction after the 1st and 2nd boks tries in the 2nd test
i didn' say Heaslip is a dirty player, i say that it's a pity that this very good player often do this type of action.
Sorry, I had forgotten that he received a red card vs AB's.
But i recall few matchs vs Boks (with the lions) and many others (with leinster or ireland), where he always fall with his knees on the player's back after a try.
I just find it ridiculous, dangerous and unnecessary.
Just have a look to his reaction after the 1st and 2nd boks tries in the 2nd test
mise October 11, 2010 8:59 pm
@Flooz:
This is a regular problem, and it is 100% not specific to Heaslip.
Loads of players seem to get away with doing it, and have done for years. Its almost a bonus point result after conceeding a try!
Needs to be spotted by refs and acted upon.
This is a regular problem, and it is 100% not specific to Heaslip.
Loads of players seem to get away with doing it, and have done for years. Its almost a bonus point result after conceeding a try!
Needs to be spotted by refs and acted upon.
Anonymous October 11, 2010 9:08 pm
Chabal and Heaslip are two good reasons why I think rugby is great - a true contest between men who love the contest and accept the outcome. Everything else is mere detail.
Mike October 11, 2010 9:09 pm
Flooz - I have not noticed this but if you are right, you are right. Of course, referees are allowed to award a penalty in front of the posts for that sort of foul on a try scorer but I think I have only ever seen it happen twice.
Anonymous October 11, 2010 9:34 pm
@Flooz
I'm not here to argue, but all of what you said is false.I read your comment and watched the tries from the first and second test and there isn't a shred of evidence to suggest that what you've said is true. The only thing Heaslip does is nudge Pietersen because of momentum and afterwards checks to see if he's okay. Please stop spreading lies.
I'm not here to argue, but all of what you said is false.I read your comment and watched the tries from the first and second test and there isn't a shred of evidence to suggest that what you've said is true. The only thing Heaslip does is nudge Pietersen because of momentum and afterwards checks to see if he's okay. Please stop spreading lies.
Mike October 11, 2010 9:51 pm
Hmm - I watched it again Flooz. I have to disagree with you. The first try, Heaslip barely touches the guy. The second, he gets there about 2 seconds late and bumps him a bit, but does it look dangerous or painful? No.
Here's the footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLeAO8i7UDY
Watching that reminded me of what a great series that was. Two great teams, one winner.
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Here's the footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLeAO8i7UDY
Watching that reminded me of what a great series that was. Two great teams, one winner.
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Anonymous October 12, 2010 12:50 am
Uh the first try he pushed Pietersen against the fences and the second try he clearly has a go on Habana.
None of them very violent so he doesn't get cited, both of them purely intentional and malicious.
Awesome player nonetheless
None of them very violent so he doesn't get cited, both of them purely intentional and malicious.
Awesome player nonetheless
Anonymous October 12, 2010 8:11 am
let's say that what happened after the first is nothing. Mike is right, he barely touch the try scorer.
But the second one... I'll have to agree with the anonymous before me.
What's the point of doing this ? The intention is obviously to hurt (surely not to injury, but to hurt) the player that just scored. And this cannot be accepted.
But the second one... I'll have to agree with the anonymous before me.
What's the point of doing this ? The intention is obviously to hurt (surely not to injury, but to hurt) the player that just scored. And this cannot be accepted.
Flooz October 12, 2010 9:41 am
the goal is not to do a "kneeslip" hunt. it's true that he is not the only player to do that.
it's to show that this type of actions, not always violent are a bit malicious and coward.
I've seen plenty but i can't remember of every.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT4EHHZRNzg
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it's to show that this type of actions, not always violent are a bit malicious and coward.
I've seen plenty but i can't remember of every.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT4EHHZRNzg
View Video
Anonymous October 12, 2010 2:45 pm
Flooz you're making stuff up. You're coming across as a liar. I know this is pathetic name calling but you're just talking bull5hit.
floozer October 12, 2010 4:21 pm
@flooz
flooz...u are right!!!! what heaslip does after the 2 tries against the `boks is an utter disgrace!!! he must be sanctioned! call the citing commissioner pronto!!! actually forget the citing commissioner...call the cops cause there could be a case for a GBH charge! actually bring back the death penalty!
this is rugby...not soccer! these incidents aren`t malicious and he`s never gonna hurt any1!
now do every1 a favour and "get a grip"
flooz...u are right!!!! what heaslip does after the 2 tries against the `boks is an utter disgrace!!! he must be sanctioned! call the citing commissioner pronto!!! actually forget the citing commissioner...call the cops cause there could be a case for a GBH charge! actually bring back the death penalty!
this is rugby...not soccer! these incidents aren`t malicious and he`s never gonna hurt any1!
now do every1 a favour and "get a grip"
Flooz October 12, 2010 4:49 pm
waw...
Impressive how some lads seem to be brain deficient, here. Sorry to have shocked some obvious Heaslip fans.
Just for a recall: RD is a fo-rum. u know this curious place where people can debate of any subjects.
Subjects like rugby on every forms.
Also impressive, how people like to transform words from others. I never say that it was actions to sanction, but actions that the ref should spot in order to avoid unnecessary brawls or injuries.
u can find it a "soccer" thing, i find it was interesting to spot...
but as u seem very open to debate, yeah.. "get a grip"!
Impressive how some lads seem to be brain deficient, here. Sorry to have shocked some obvious Heaslip fans.
Just for a recall: RD is a fo-rum. u know this curious place where people can debate of any subjects.
Subjects like rugby on every forms.
Also impressive, how people like to transform words from others. I never say that it was actions to sanction, but actions that the ref should spot in order to avoid unnecessary brawls or injuries.
u can find it a "soccer" thing, i find it was interesting to spot...
but as u seem very open to debate, yeah.. "get a grip"!
Anonymous October 13, 2010 5:23 pm
Where are the clips of the "Caveman" getting dumped? At least 4 times, 3 by players a LOT lighter than him (wings), and he lost the ball more often than not. Unlike the player he hit in this clip who presented the ball well.
To see this alone, you would think it was the defining moment of the game. I wasn't.
Oh, and Flooz, yes, it is a forum and it is about debate. It is not just about targeting unsupported accusations against one player or team.
e.g. All Springboks are dirty players who eye gouge and should be watched by all refs and assistants. Proof? See the video of Schalk Burger sticking his finger in Lions wing eye at start of 1st test. This isn't proof? Well, no, but neither are your posts or links
To see this alone, you would think it was the defining moment of the game. I wasn't.
Oh, and Flooz, yes, it is a forum and it is about debate. It is not just about targeting unsupported accusations against one player or team.
e.g. All Springboks are dirty players who eye gouge and should be watched by all refs and assistants. Proof? See the video of Schalk Burger sticking his finger in Lions wing eye at start of 1st test. This isn't proof? Well, no, but neither are your posts or links
Flooz October 14, 2010 9:50 am
as said before
debate is impossible with anonymous, vicious people...
be a man :(
bye
debate is impossible with anonymous, vicious people...
be a man :(
bye
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