Sunday, October 24, 2010
Felipe Contepomi trysaver prevents Munster scoring a classic try vs Toulon
The match got off to a great start as Toulon scored in the first minute of the game, a try that is included in the Best Tries from Round 2 video that was posted on Friday.
Munster came back though and in the 13th minute as Contepomi - arch nemesis from his Leinster days - attempted to put them in the lead with a penalty kick but missed, sparking a fantastic Munster counter attack from deep.
Doug Howlett showed that theres life in the old dogs legs yet as he streaked down field and gave Murphy the space to sprint for the corner. Somehow Contepomi got across though to make a telling tackle that pushed Murphys leg onto the line. Many replays later, it was judged that he was out, a decision that is still being debated.
In the end it didnt matter as Munster came out convincing 45-18 winners. Toulons Phillipe Saint-Andre played down the big win though, stating that the Top 14 is his teams priority right now.
"The Magners League is not as important to Munster as the Heineken Cup but next week we play Stade Francais in front of 80,000 people and then we are away to Toulouse and Perpignan so, at the moment, the Top 14 is more important for us."
Captain Joe Van Niekerk was a little more complimentary and less matter of fact.
"The experience of playing in the Heineken Cup for the first time against Munster was amazing... the scoreboard wasn't so amazing," said the eighthman.
"Physically, Munster were really up to the challenge and you can see that they are a well-drilled side, with a lot of experience. We were playing probably the best side in Europe, the level of intensity was a lot more than in France," he added.
Many of you had requested this clip so while it happened a week ago, I'm sure you still have your own opinion about whether or not this 'try' should have been awarded. Great play nevertheless.
Time: 02:41
Posted at 2:22 pm | 39 comments
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piggles October 24, 2010 1:29 pm
serves him right for the poncy dive. If he had gone low he would probably have stayed infield but he wanted the swallow dive camera shot.
Anonymous October 24, 2010 1:41 pm
Piggles got it right on, if he dived low - try.
Colussus of Choads October 24, 2010 1:42 pm
Stupid posuer, glad he didnt score.
Wolfman21 October 24, 2010 2:22 pm
Agree with Piggles - if he had stayed low he would have been fine. Silly dive - shame though because it was a great break.
MCB October 24, 2010 2:50 pm
Agree that the dive should have been low, but Murphy himself said in an interview that he didnt mean to dive that high, it was just a result of the way he was running. Great vision by Warwick to counter-attack rather than just boot the ball downfield.
Chris October 24, 2010 3:06 pm
What an idiot. He could have easily touched down if he didn't raise his arm above his head for the 'dramatic' slam.
Hahahahaha. Serves him right
Hahahahaha. Serves him right
Anonymous October 24, 2010 3:07 pm
great speed by our old leinster puma!! didn't realise he had that much speed!
KG October 24, 2010 4:43 pm
"serves him right for the poncy dive. If he had gone low he would probably have stayed infield but he wanted the swallow dive camera shot."
Nope. If he dived low, when Cantempomi hit him he'd be in touch without a doubt. He still had a good distance to go when he dived.
Diving high means you can keep your legs off the floor, keeping yourself in play, and place the ball down with your hands.
Also, the clip is inconclusive. The decision seemed like it was just a guess. When these situations occur, I think the benefit of the doubt should be given to the attacking team.
Nope. If he dived low, when Cantempomi hit him he'd be in touch without a doubt. He still had a good distance to go when he dived.
Diving high means you can keep your legs off the floor, keeping yourself in play, and place the ball down with your hands.
Also, the clip is inconclusive. The decision seemed like it was just a guess. When these situations occur, I think the benefit of the doubt should be given to the attacking team.
KG October 24, 2010 4:48 pm
Actually, you're right, he should have gone low. Looked at it a couple of times again.
J October 24, 2010 5:48 pm
The TMO gets more angles than what we get to see - no try.
Resident Troll October 24, 2010 7:38 pm
What a surprise, if that was the SH it would have been scored with ease!!!!
Actually, it raises the questions referring to shane williams little jump....
I.e. you arent allowed to touch a player who is in the air, therefore jumping is deemed as 'unsportsmanlike' and also sometimes 'dangerous'....
....so how about diving....
Actually, it raises the questions referring to shane williams little jump....
I.e. you arent allowed to touch a player who is in the air, therefore jumping is deemed as 'unsportsmanlike' and also sometimes 'dangerous'....
....so how about diving....
Anonymous October 24, 2010 8:10 pm
"The TMO gets more angles than what we get to see - no try."
No they don't. I did work experience with my uncle who works for Sky and saw the video ref working (not on this occasion). What you see is exactly what they are looking at. They have access to other angles (all cameras are shown on a big board with loads of screens) but the ones that they look at are the ones that may actually show something useful and these are the same ones that you see on TV as the vid ref is viewing them.
No they don't. I did work experience with my uncle who works for Sky and saw the video ref working (not on this occasion). What you see is exactly what they are looking at. They have access to other angles (all cameras are shown on a big board with loads of screens) but the ones that they look at are the ones that may actually show something useful and these are the same ones that you see on TV as the vid ref is viewing them.
Chris Boy October 24, 2010 8:24 pm
persnally i think that was a bit of a poor finish
Anonymous October 24, 2010 9:07 pm
Useless murphy, trimble would have been a great buy for munster instead of him
MCB October 24, 2010 11:51 pm
@ Anonymous above:
Murphy has been one of Munster's best players so far this season. His versatility has allowed Munster to compete in the Heineken cup and Magners League with a badly depleted backline. Trimble is finding form but he wouldn't be needed at Munster. Murphy is doing a good job, regardless of not finishing off this move
Murphy has been one of Munster's best players so far this season. His versatility has allowed Munster to compete in the Heineken cup and Magners League with a badly depleted backline. Trimble is finding form but he wouldn't be needed at Munster. Murphy is doing a good job, regardless of not finishing off this move
Anonymous October 24, 2010 11:54 pm
Jaque Fourie would have scored it. Jaque is the master of scoring in the corner, even if he has 4 defenders on him.
Jono October 25, 2010 12:17 am
Tough call, I'd probably say it's a try just because I think the benefit of the doubt should go to the attacking team on principle.
Nicko October 25, 2010 12:38 am
dougyyyyy still got some wheels I see! He's such a legend, Muster have really adopted him, the fans must love him.
Chris October 25, 2010 6:33 am
'Resident Troll', are you that upset that SH rugby is superior and tougher that you're going to troll every video comments with your non-funny sarcasm?
That you have to extend your opponents arguments to ridiculous proportions speaks volumes. None of your aliases are funny mate
That you have to extend your opponents arguments to ridiculous proportions speaks volumes. None of your aliases are funny mate
Bradders October 25, 2010 8:03 am
This guy's been watching too much Tri-Nations S14's where players dive with their bodies off the pitch but touch down before any part of them hits the deck!
Great call by the TMO - FC did a great job covering after missing the Pen - Equally great cover D as well as great counter attack.
Resident Troll - You are a massive douche.
Great call by the TMO - FC did a great job covering after missing the Pen - Equally great cover D as well as great counter attack.
Resident Troll - You are a massive douche.
BigBucks October 25, 2010 9:42 am
The reason he high dived is to prevent Cotepomi from pushing him out - Making it easy to put the ball directly down from above whilst making it harder to get put out.
Think about it properly lads - a low dive would of been easier to push out - as well as more of a change in sliding out by accident
Think about it properly lads - a low dive would of been easier to push out - as well as more of a change in sliding out by accident
Flooz October 25, 2010 10:15 am
Good counter attack but no try
if i was the munster manager, i would have give a tap on murphy's head. he tried to make a "image of the WE" dive-tackle.
a bit stupid :) watch your defender and dive low mate...
if i was the munster manager, i would have give a tap on murphy's head. he tried to make a "image of the WE" dive-tackle.
a bit stupid :) watch your defender and dive low mate...
westman October 25, 2010 10:21 am
way! you munster c***s ! people who leave comments like this should be put down for wasting oxygen stop using this website and f**k off back to watching football
zacaria October 25, 2010 11:59 am
looks like his knee landed inside and leg twisted out and hit the post just give it.
NiWiTa October 25, 2010 12:15 pm
Just about no try - not sure on the dive thing. Basically it was a good idea to dive but perhaps not in the celebratory manner he did....I believe he could have scored if he went lower as the higher dive gave contepomi more time to take him out of play...........lovely bit of counter-attacking rugby though :)
KG October 25, 2010 1:21 pm
"way! you munster c***s ! people who leave comments like this should be put down for wasting oxygen stop using this website and f**k off back to watching football"
Jealous of Munster's success? 2nd best side in Europe (behind Toulouse) and better than any team in England. Come back when you've been to 4 HC finals and won 2 of them.
Didn't really matter anyway as they beat Toulon pretty easily. Even got the BP (I think).
Jealous of Munster's success? 2nd best side in Europe (behind Toulouse) and better than any team in England. Come back when you've been to 4 HC finals and won 2 of them.
Didn't really matter anyway as they beat Toulon pretty easily. Even got the BP (I think).
Anonymous October 25, 2010 6:46 pm
@KG
I think you miss understood westman's comment, he's not "jealous of munsters success" he was just saying what I was thinking about that anonymous comment above...
The one that reads:
"way! you munster c***s"
All that aside lovely bit of counter attacking there nice to see that some teams still run with the ball, pitty about the finish.
I think you miss understood westman's comment, he's not "jealous of munsters success" he was just saying what I was thinking about that anonymous comment above...
The one that reads:
"way! you munster c***s"
All that aside lovely bit of counter attacking there nice to see that some teams still run with the ball, pitty about the finish.
Chris October 25, 2010 8:07 pm
Think about it properly lads - a low dive would of been easier to push out - as well as more of a change in sliding out by accident
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Not necessarily. He could have jumped while extending his arm towards the try line in the same motion. Rather than bringing his arm up with him.
You see it alot in League, players will jump and in the same motion lower their arm. It works, although it's a little tricky to explain. You might be able to see it if you looked at a Benji Marshall video, he does it alot(even when he doesn't need to)
The problem with this video isn't that the guy jumps, jumping like you say is whats needed, get as high off the ground as possible. It's that he brought his arm up with him and above him. That's pure showboating, going for the swan dive. He could have jumped while placing the ball, simultaneous(sp?)
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Not necessarily. He could have jumped while extending his arm towards the try line in the same motion. Rather than bringing his arm up with him.
You see it alot in League, players will jump and in the same motion lower their arm. It works, although it's a little tricky to explain. You might be able to see it if you looked at a Benji Marshall video, he does it alot(even when he doesn't need to)
The problem with this video isn't that the guy jumps, jumping like you say is whats needed, get as high off the ground as possible. It's that he brought his arm up with him and above him. That's pure showboating, going for the swan dive. He could have jumped while placing the ball, simultaneous(sp?)
H October 25, 2010 9:29 pm
BigBucks.. the video proves you're wrong. It wasnt that he jumped high it was the fact he scored it about a metre over the line rather than dotting it down on the line, therefore making him cover more ground than necessary.
Anonymous October 26, 2010 12:34 am
i'm sick of tv completely ruining moments like this by switching camera angles (multiple times here) during a run. same goes for shane williams' great try last week and just about every try now. close-ups mean you completely lose perspective on how much ground they're making, where the defenders are, and what angle they're running, whilst changing the camera angle is just a huge distraction.
scott gibbs' famous try against england in 99 is basically lost to history, but things have gotten much worse since then.
scott gibbs' famous try against england in 99 is basically lost to history, but things have gotten much worse since then.
Mike October 27, 2010 8:13 am
Boring Munster :)
To the comment above, yeah, Dougie Howlett is a real favourite of Munster fans, we have really adopted him. He always gives 100% - I remember him last year chasing down a guy and preventing a try when he had already pulled his hamstring, he limped off as soon as he stopped the guy.
Re. Contepomi, I don't know why he gets such grief, I think he's still a great player and was a great player for Leinster for years.
To the comment above, yeah, Dougie Howlett is a real favourite of Munster fans, we have really adopted him. He always gives 100% - I remember him last year chasing down a guy and preventing a try when he had already pulled his hamstring, he limped off as soon as he stopped the guy.
Re. Contepomi, I don't know why he gets such grief, I think he's still a great player and was a great player for Leinster for years.
westman October 28, 2010 10:58 am
i am a munster man so i was not been negative about them . This is rugby not football real rugby fans respect each others teams
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