Quade Cooper's great try and big celebration against the Waratahs

first mah names nari hehehe hahaha..

The Reds seem to be having a competition on at the moment. Can't wait for nest week.

poofball behaviour.

These cellabrations combined with the commentary makes for awesome viewing. Keep it up.
Darren Cave and Rory Best could learn a thing or two here. Contepomi's was his good old self.

haha, it's all in good fun, as long as they keep the celebrations short and AFTER scoring (not like that ridiculous Ashton swan-dive..)

To be able to do that after 35 minutes of rugby and a sprint to the try line is pretty amazing.

@Cheis Couldn't agree more. Short,sweet and AFTER the deed is done.

After seeing some of these celebrations recently I'm now wondering why people got so upset with Ashton - his swallow dive now looks pretty tame!

His swallow dive can fuck off

I must admit to being unimpressed by celebrations in the past but this is getting brilliant!
Ashton can get fucked.

Munster jersey 41 seconds in boom

Are any of you people saying ashton can fuck off even remotely good at rugby? I doubt it, otherwise you wouldn't be so unnecessarily bitter over something that is so unimportant. Stop crying about it, it sounds so pathetic.

poor man's Nani

I prefer Drew Mitchell's dance

Difference between QC & Ashton is that QC & Digby celebrated after the scoring. To celebrate before scoring is pure arrogance & disrespect. I am just waiting for Ashton to phuck it up and drop the ball which costs the match ... arrogant twat. He evens looks the part ...

rugby is getting a little too much like football for my taste at the moment

I don't think it matters how good anyone is at rugby. If you think that northampton right winger is a ponse, fine. Your opinion. If anyone actually is crying over him there are much bigger issues going on there.

All that being said, anyone who celebrates like he does BEFORE a try is scored, disrespecting the other team, is quite welcome to return to where they came.

Joost Van der Westhuizen did stuff like that in '95 and I hate it as much now as I did then.

Do what you want after you've scored with your team or fans and keep it entertaining and original.

Breyton Paulse's version owns this pathetic attempt. Look at Cooper's landing and how his legs are so far apart.

^ And no, Joost didn't celebrate at all, liar.

Nice try, horrible celebration.

I'm an American, where guys doing stuff like this in football is nothing new. Apparently as of recently something is going on that makes rugby players want to do rehearsed celebrations. You guys in the rugby world don't what your getting yourselves into.

What you have to look forward to is everytime someone does their job on the field watching them do a celebratory dance or motion. I'm sure this seeping into the lower age groups already. Why now?

Raising your hand before crossing the line in celebration counts. And he did

There's that killer SH defence again... Actually anyone saying this is better than the Ashton dive is a bit funny... Ashton adds about half a millisecond into the act of scoring a try.,.. Cooper digby etc add about another 5 or 6 seconds after the try has been scored, thus wasting time...

But that's splitting hairs, what it really amounts to is SH folk not liking it done against them, ashtons I've is getting old, howeve it is trade mark, and I don't see how it's disrespecting the other team... I mean it's a dive over the try line that's a little more extravagant it's not like he wonders round sratching his arse waiting for an oppo player to come close and then touching it down....however I do find Ashton a cocky git anyway.. So the less fuel to his cocky fire the better for now

I don't mind the odd celebration but if these are going to become an every game thing then they'll lose their "fun"

Well said Sam. A reasoned opinion is always welcome

I seem to remember a certain Jonah Lomu fist bumping his team-mate whilst jogging towards the tryline before putting the ball down. But i guess thats different right, or somehow less offensive than a dive. Or maybe you all just don't have a clue what you are talking about and would find any reason to dislike Ashton.

I would see that as not being too good. If its before the try its not on

Personally if I was playing and people someone scored against me with a swan dive, I wouldn't really care..If someone started doing gymnastics behind the try line as in this case I would think he was a massive chopper but wouldn't get wound up by it. Anyone who hates someone because of their try celebration is pretty pathetic.

"Anonymous said...

rugby is getting a little too much like football for my taste at the moment"

Getting? It's already like it (minus the crowds and money)

Flashy boots, stupid dances, diving and the Aussies all walk around like they're from 1990s south central LA. Look at that super cheesy music video Ioane was in.

Yo bro, maxin and relaxin and chillin with m homies dawg, g style wiggy wiggy, gangsta yo.

LOVE IT. I think this is what the game needs, some showmanship. They play for our entertainment after all !

Naomi, playing rugby isn't entertaining enough for you?

Digby and QC are playing in a league that is broadcast on subscription television and the australian audience is very small in relation to AFL and NRL.

If this is what it takes to make sure that union makes the sport news and looks as sensational as this while building the games profile. All power to them.

Their sponsors can't be too annoyed either.

Jeez, the guys are having fun. Cooper's an awesome player (save for his defence), and if he (or any top rugger) didn't have fun on the pitch, then they wouldn't stand the tackles, hits, rucks, pain and injuries.

Rugby is a ver tough and entertaining game (both in the NH and in the SH) so I think tha having an escape valve is alwas welcome, as long, as said before, it keps short and respectful.

And Quade Cooper is the man.

Cheers

13 has to make that tackle...Even though there was a dummy inside runner you cannot let somebody walk through the mid field like that..Have to have trust in your team mates and make the hit

i think that the celebrations are quite funny and original, everyone watching them likes them and unless the irb say anything reagarding unsportsman-like conduct all those bitching and moaning should just shut up!

"Digby and QC are playing in a league"

Someone should tell them that they're playing in a rugby league, not the lower American Football leagues.

"i think that the celebrations are quite funny and original"

Original?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ej7SLNFiPQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3g2Ru_-9AA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkQjtRHfU5M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vGxnz9nPmI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHpAYlas7lA

Yeah, I see what you mean.

View Videos

Congratulations on being able to copy and paste URL's from Youtube.

I wish I could copy and paste

Great try, and the celebration...well he's an Ausie he doesn't know any better.

Congratulations on your incorrect use of an apostrophe.

Ha I think you should check! I'm English I should know.

Excellent! it's all true. It was a great try. Aussies don't know better and that is how you use an apostrophe.

"Anonymous Anonymous said...

Congratulations on being able to copy and paste URL's from Youtube."

URL's what? Something belongs to URL?

"sr-dean said...

Excellent! it's all true. It was a great try. Aussies don't know better and that is how you use an apostrophe."

Wrrrrrrong.

"Anonymous said...

Ha I think you should check! I'm English I should know."

No apostrophe for plural acronyms and initialisms.

DVDs, CDs, URLs.

......have any of you heard the old saying:

'Football is played by peasants and watched by gentlemen. Rugby is played by gentlemen and watched by peasants'

Now i know football nowadays is played AND watched by peasants... however i think the second part is in relation to the fact that we should be getting more enjoyment out of playing it than we get from watching it.... i mean come on guys "this is what rugby needs, some showmanship" "wow that is entertainment"

Id rather see some good rugby that have people begging for more of this to liven the game up...

I mean if this is what cooper wants to do then fair enough, its up to him... but to say this is making RUGBY more exciting is daft... this has NOTHING to do with the game... if you want to see acrobatics then go to a circus or something. I have no real issue with this stuff, other than the fact i dont want to see it after every try... i mean it might actually get to the stage where we sit around and think, "remember when guys used to just score trys... and we didnt have to extend match time by 20 mins to incorporate the choreographed dance moves"

Idk, im not old, I just somehow relate to the anonymous stating how if someone did a swan dive against me i wouldnt think too much of it, but if they did a little dance move or this then i'd think umm come on, we're supposed to be playing a game here you know....

But we're all different with what we like or dislike....

why not celebrate? It's absolutely normal, it's a moment of joy.Come on guys!

these celebrations may not be sporting, but they are making rugby more exciting, appealing to a bigger auidence so i am all for it

Ashton + Armitage over cliff = celebration

Impressive athleticism, but if someone cocks one up and injures themselves they'll get no sympathy.

"HwA said...

these celebrations may not be sporting, but they are making rugby more exciting"

You obviously love your rugby if a bit of dancing makes you excited.

How about some fireworks, the Rolling Stones playing at half time, a man in a panda suit, some parachutists and guys on horses.

Nobody is poo-pooing on celebrating, it's just funny watching Aussies, Kiwis and South Africans getting excited about something that's been around for 30 years in other sports.

Ooo, look, fiiiiirrrre.

I believe that the Aussies call that back-flip celebration "the brontosaurus".

Great try from Cooper, super acceleration - he's a real talent.

some of you guys need to get with the times. thats the sort of stuff we need in rugby, if we want it to get more popular

"Anonymous said...

some of you guys need to get with the times. thats the sort of stuff we need in rugby"

What other football traits do you want in rugby?

Well we could make the ball round, and introduce a rule that you can only kick it. And change the aim of the game from touching down over a line to putting the ball through a 'goal'.

IMO, there's a time and place. If an u16 does this on a saturday afternoon in front of 100 friends and family, he'll look an arrogant fool. Celebrating in this way in front of 40000 pumped up fans in the biggest Aussie derby of the year is something entirely different.

Each player knows they can make a tit of themselves potentially. Nothing wrong here though.

And, it was a very good try that broke the game open. He's entitled to be a little happy and have some fun.

Its a cultural thing. Aussies get it and it sits well with all their supporters.

No one complains when Kenya have an African dance after they score in sevens.

But Ashton is still a plonker. Throw Jordan Crane into that for his Indian celebration after that drop gaol in the semi final shoot out against cardiff

Great try. Quade Cooper quickly becoming one my favorite players to watch ever. Up there with King Calros.

is that Skid Row ("Youth Gone Wild") or Motley Crue in the background?

maybe if the referees more strictly enforce the conversion time limit this will go away.

Also if the kicker is invovled in this crap, the referee could just blow them up for wasting time

I live in the USA, and I must admit that Rugby's culture of respect was something that drew me to the game.

Turning rugby into a version of an NBA slam dunk contest might attract some fans, but it may turn off the others.

And while we're at it, even the vaunted Waisale Serevi partook in the showboating before scoring.

Recall the NZL-FIJ 7s match a few years back, where he walked into the try zone, carrying the ball like it was a pizza for delivery?

He then got what he deserved, a cheap shot from Cama (who I think had his own issues with the opposition, but nonetheless).

Respect your opponenets first. Otherwise, we're either a bunch of wendyball show boaters, or those rugby league bogans who stand over an injured player and sledge them.

I don't mind the celebrations (some are even pretty funny) as much as the implication that players who don't celebrate gratuitously somehow aren't having fun in the act of simply scoring the try. Are they really that bored with the game?

PS - I wonder if he'll be doing backflips the next time he gets singled out for his revolving door defense.

Football is football because:

1. Players have no respect for each other, and thus they deceive the referee at the cost of INDIVIDUAL members of the opposition.

2. Players have no respect for the referee, and thus they all crowd round him shouting abuse and so on.

3. People running the sport are corrupt, hence the farcical organisation that is FIFA; agents' bungs; tiny fines for racism etc etc.

4. People involved in the sport have no integrity, hence the fact that players, managers and chairmen will often say one thing and do the opposite (just recently see Carroll, Adebayor, Harry Redknapp, Mike Ashley...)

5. Fans of football cannot be trusted to come together and behave themselves.

6. The powers that be ignore all of the above five diseases of football because they all contribute to the 24-7 circle of controversy that keeps football in the media, and ultimately makes $$$

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Compare the above poisons to fairly unimportant issues such as goal celebrations. Then tell me which are widely prevalent in rugby.

I'm quite happy to keep the celebrations, thanks.

Geez, put a newtons cradle in front of some people and it will keep them entertained for hours...

If you honestly think THIS celebration, or Digby's, or Ashtons dive brings something to rugby then rugby is in a terrible place right now.

The point is if you guys find this brings that much needed entertainment to a match then wtf are you watching a rugby match for?

I personally find an awesome well worked manoeuvre or a rolling maul seriously entertaining... in fact a billion times more entertaining than cooper doing something like this...

Its not THAT big a deal its just that im shocked you guys all find this incredible when in fact there is some world class rugby going on in the background...

And the thing im worried about is if rugby does become like the NFL where the half time show is almost as big a deal as what is happening during the game..

I just personally think its like bringing someone like Lomu or Matfield etc into a badminton match and claiming it brings a huge amount of entertainment to the game... it sort of doesnt go together...

"1. Players have no respect for each other, and thus they deceive the referee at the cost of INDIVIDUAL members of the opposition."

Deceiving the ref never happens in rugby does it, cough, McCaw and every other forward, cough.

"3. People running the sport are corrupt, hence the farcical organisation that is FIFA; agents' bungs; tiny fines for racism etc etc."

Yeah, the IRB never makes any mistakes and runs rugby perfectly, cough, failure to apply worldwide salary caps and allowing nations to pick players via the residency ruling, cough. At least in football, players have some kind of relation to the country they represent.

"4. People involved in the sport have no integrity, hence the fact that players, managers and chairmen will often say one thing and do the opposite (just recently see Carroll, Adebayor, Harry Redknapp, Mike Ashley...)"

Integrity? Like those loyal southern hem players who move north to earn some real money, Dean Richards and the blood capsules, Dougie Howlett smashing up cars drunk, Kellehar being arrested for fighting after a drunken crash etc, cough, cough.

"5. Fans of football cannot be trusted to come together and behave themselves."

Judging by the worldwide rugby attendances for club games, fans can't be trusted to turn up. And given the amount of fans that turn out to footy matches in comparison to the amount of trouble, it's a "minority".

^^^^^^^^
Cracking post.

By the way I was referring to the Anonymous post at April 25, 2011 7:23 PM...

Totally agree with (u-p)rick's one too though!

I find this type of celebration entertaining but take it or leave it. To say it adds to the game is bonkers.

People slating Ashton's swallow dive always seem to miss the point - I don't care what he does, but the really shit thing about it is he always bottles it and drops a knee to cushion the landing, which looks pretty lame and silly.

Thomas waldrom. Choo chooo

Whilst I totally agree with that anonymous comment just below mine (and above Von's) I fear i better add something about the NH to avoid people missing the point completely and going in for the NH vs SH kill...

'Integrity? Like those loyal southern hem players who move north to earn some real money, Dean Richards and the blood capsules, Dougie Howlett smashing up cars drunk, Kellehar being arrested for fighting after a drunken crash etc, cough, cough.' And the NH guys showing integrity by stealing golf carts and driving them drunk Powell and fighting in the streets etc..

..(just to avoid the inevitable N v S stuff...)

Im just going to say: guys,keep celebrating, Digbys celebration was sincere and not disrespectful to the other team, Cooper, short celebarton and cheerineg with your teammates,not distespectful....celebrating before the try with no emotion...thats something different. im neither a fan nor a hetr to ahston, but i dont really like those celebrations

pd:I really liked digbys celebration..his happy face just dismissed every accusation of cheap showing-off

or those rugby league bogans who stand over an injured player and sledge them.

As opposed to standing over and goading a bloke you've just destroyed in the scrum?

i'm english/aussie dual national.

ashton swan dive = gay.

digby/cooper celebrations = funny and enjoyable.

I think that it must be a thing for us Americans who are already bored with the celebrations we see in the sports which are prevalent over here. Gridiron (which I love as a game) is awful about this stuff...a player makes a decent tackle and you'd think he'd just made the play of the year by how overexcited he gets. I think us Americans look to rugby as a breath of fresh air, where people are more interested in having fun playing the game than trying to look cool.

I see no real difference between Ashton's celebration and something like Cooper's...for me, both are forgettable background noise at best, and at worst, they're distractions from the game.

But it's easy to think that way when watching an isolated clip like this. Let's not forget that there's 79 more minutes of rugby going on...

The thing about it is that if I were Ashton, for example, I'd be worried about the fact that people seem to remember me more for the my antics than the fact that I'm a good rugby player.

When I played rugby in high school you could be dropped from future matches for Showboating.

The most you could do was the odd superfluous dive into the try zone and many of us fools looked like clowns shot out of a cannon.

Anyone remember the days when rugby kit had the odd tiny logo and that was it?

It is all translates to advertising dollars folks. I have no opinion one way or the other. Some celebratory stunts look silly and some bring a smile.

Eh, tis a new generation. More importantly, that was some excellent dummy running.

come on... some people are being waay too serious. i don't see it solely as being soccer theatrics. you see it in other sports like the NFL. it adds to the excitement of a try being scored for a couple of seconds. soccer celebrations are not what makes soccer an ill-behaviored sport. it's the disrespect and unsportsmanlike behavior shown towards players and referees alike. the celebrations so far by Ioani and Cooper have not been disrespectful but actually added a bit of spice to an already entertaining game.

I looked up the definition of overreacting in the dictionary and it just gave me the link to this page

I dont see any dis-respectfulness in this, digby's or Ashtons, or anyone else who does this stuff for that matter.

I just dont see the point, I think it distracts from the game and draws in a crowd of showboating fans...

Personally I have no issue as i stated, and most people on here dont like it but couldnt really give a f*ck and there are the odd few who do like it but couldnt really give a f*ck. I think the danger with this is it could bring in the old untouchable attitude that members of NFL or soccer have where they are better than the game and the team and everyone. Thus bringing in that crowd of people who know f'all about rugby but believe it is a game for those that are untouchable so therefore it must be something to support..

It all sounds a little over the top i must admit, however I can see the game heading more of the NFL way rather than football, what with stade francais muscle man thing at the start and this 'showboating' thing...i think its all going to go quite far...

These guys are gonna celebrate if they want to. And there's not a fucking thing any of you can do about it :)

Cheyanqui:
or those rugby league bogans who stand over an injured player and sledge them.

Anonymous:
As opposed to standing over and goading a bloke you've just destroyed in the scrum?

Cheyanqui:
No comparing the two.
A scrum is one thing, when you have a reasonable expectation your opponent is not hurt (just humiliated).
The leaguies throw a shoulder into a player who ends up in a heap, snoring, and they're still talking sh**e

Struggled to do that backflip in the end, would have been funny had he not made it all the way around.

Anon @ 8.11

1. There's a reason I put 'INDIVIDUAL' in capitals. It's because Richie McCaw's actions make his team benefit in open play - you don't 'win' penalties by deceiving the referee, you win turnovers etc.

A deception by a footballer results in an individual from the opposition being penalised. In rugby the actions of one player never directly lead to the disciplining of a member of another team. There's gamesmanship, and then there's deception.

3. The iRB cannot control salary caps, nor can anyone in a global capitalist economy. That's a fact of life. And if footballers always play for their country, tell me why there are lots of Brazilians (Eduardo for Croatia, as an example) playing over the world. Tell me why Tony Cascarino played for Eire. Tell me why most of the Jamaican team are from the UK, or why that white lad from the Midlands ended up playing for T&T.

Now tell me whether the failures of rugby Unions (institutionalised conservatism, inconsistent citing sentences) sound worse than those of their football counterparts (institutionalised corruption, fining players 10x more for goal celebrations than clubs get for racist fans, etc. etc.).

see this weekly column for more:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/apr/24/said-done-fifa-gigi-becali

4. People moving from one country to another in order to earn more is nothing to do with integrity. Try telling that to any immigrant family in whatever country you live in.

Blood Capsules. Don't make me laugh. One isolated incident comparable to stuff that happens week-in week-out in football, an incident that was way over-hyped by the football-obsessed media so they could pat themselves on the back and reassure themselves that their own sport's not really that bad.

And drunken players behaving badly. Gimme a Wayne, an Ashley, a Flintoff, Symonds, a Tiger... Young men being idiots happens in all sports. Only some seem to have the grade below - the Bowyers and Bartons of this world.

5. I'm so glad that it's only a "minority" of football fans. That was a weak argument and you know it. If you're willing to excuse football fans all of their discrepancies just because they 'turn up' then nobody will listen to you. It's like saying the arseholes brawling outside the pub on Saturday night are alright because at least they could be bothered to go out on the town in the first place...

As a gymnast, i'm surprised he made it. Props to the guy. He's not the biggest, but completely the wrong shape for something like that, when you're built like a rugby player you have to brute force the flip, your body won't do the rotating for you, and he is nearly not strong enough to..... but could be down to the guys he scorched earlier aha

Awesome try, but one of the crappest backflips I have ever seen, but if he wants to do it, let him! If the opposition team take offence they'll let him know very soon.

Spies can do 2 flips

ASHTON SWAN DIVE = VERY GAY

Quade/Digby/Ranger = Very funny

Haha, he's having an on-field dance-off against Digby

There is no disrepect in Digby's or Coopers 'celebration' at all. They aren't 'rubbing in' the fact that they scored. These guys are enjoying their rugby, people forget a few years ago the Reds were the worst in the comp.

^^^ofcourse not, I'd say shane williams is the only one that does that...

but what about Ashton, you cannot say thats being disrespectful

ok, Kurtley Beale can't tackle.

The celebration's fine, people getting their knickers in a twist about it are losing perspective. He didn't tear his shirt off and run over to the corner flag and call his team around him and dance for ten minutes .. he did a flip for crissakes!
As far as the try goes.. most times Cooper would have passed the ball as he got to the defence, but whether he passes it left or right, who knows?.. he dummied three times, it was 2 on 2 and the guy covering him had to make a decision, he looked for the pass, it didn't come and the gap opened. Cooper then had the drop on Beale, a jink and a good fend at pace.. a lot of fullbacks better than Beale would've missed the tackle too. Excellent try.

RIP rugby, hello football II

No bad, but not all that graceful either. Breyton Paulse used to make those backflips look effortless.

Impressive would be someone like Matt Dunning pulling it off.

Great try but unimpressed by the salto

Completly OK with some comments above.

"RIP rugby, hello football"
what i love in rugby is that the team spirit is stronger than any player. What i sometimes hate in soccer, is that the "star" player think that he is above the team

Few decades ago, u had guys like Campese, Blanco, Kirwan, Robinson, Lomu who could score anthologic tries and celebrate with modesty or with their team.
Now, the players earn more money and need to show them off to impress recrutors or screw some cheerleaders. i don't know if that type of celebrations come from the sevens, league or soccer... but it become a bit disturbing to watch in "15"

My analysis is maybe a bit old-school, but the spirit of the game is in danger. i prefer to watch players put some crazyness on the pitch rather around. Cooper can be one them, without this kind of stuff

lol the dancing clips attract more comments than the gameplay videos, and people call football gay

I hope he won't play like this vs italy next rwc

'lol the dancing clips attract more comments than the gameplay videos, and people call football gay'

Thats because of muppets like you who cant help bitching about the comments.

Would have been better if it was a prop. Imagine Castro scoring from the halfway line then doing some gymnastics...

if one aussie brings along his kicking boots the world cup will be theirs ;)

^^
You mean instead of his dancing shoes?

Breyton Paulse did it first. After EVERY try.
Don't really like it, but everyone has their own opinion on the matter, so...

meh.

Hahahaha, people are pathetic sometimes.
You miserable bastards, moaning about him celebrating a try.

Seriously, British people are only happy when they;re miserable.
Pathetic.

who's says its british people moaning??!

Im an aussie yes originally british if you want to go back as far as my relative shipped over to australia for....well...pinching things... however i think this is a bit non de script, i dont see the point but its not the end of the world. im with others though, i dont think it brings anything to the game.

This was a good try by a quality player.
The only try the Reds scored all game (for those criticising the defence - a defensive line that conceded only one try).

And when he scored in front of 40,000 in a massive grudge match against QLD's greatest rivals (the rivarly has been going since the 1880s), he was so happy he celebrated by doing a backflip.

Which is cool. Why would anyone in their right mind find cause to cirticise a display of happiness like that?

Unless its a northern hemisphere player, who's little rivalries extend well over 121 years. Then we hate seeing anything like that! its dispicable.

i think he ^ meant 131 years...unless he's borrowed the delorean...

What a dick, and it's not even his own stunt - everyone knows he got it straight from the Breyton Paulse celebration handbook...he was also a cock for doing it, but at least he was original!

Yeah, how dare he enjoy himself!
Who does he think he is!
He should be miserable!

"Unless its a northern hemisphere player, who's little rivalries extend well over 121 years. Then we hate seeing anything like that! its dispicable."

The rivalry from the 1880s refers only to rugby.

The Waratahs and the Reds played their first game against each other in the 1880s.

I'm not refering to historical rivalry in the sense you mean.

And Ashton is fine to celebrate all he likes. I have absolutly no rpoblem with his diving over the line.

God forbid he should enjoy himself and have confidence in his play.

i'm pretty sure fly-halves are not meant to score tries?