Monday, June 06, 2011
Sonny Bill Williams successful in fourth professional fight
The All Black star in the making went up against Alipate Liava, a 43 year old who is currently on disability benefits as he's not fit to work because of an elbow problem. Williams has acknowledged that his boxing career is a slow work in progress and he's not yet where he wants to be, but many would have hoped this would have been more of a test for him.
The twenty five year old was never troubled, and despite taking a few shots to the jaw, came out unscathed, much to the relief of New Zealand and Crusaders coaches Graham Henry and Todd Blackadder, who were both watching in the crowd.
"He hardly got hit, which is the main thing," Henry said. "He kept moving. He's a good athlete. He moves well. He didn't get touched often, which is great. I think he's feeling good about himself and he's pleased it's over so he can concentrate on other things."
"If it was Richie McCaw, or Dan Carter, or whoever it might be, we would be here to support him," he added, and also mentioned that there wont be another fight before the World Cup, as his All Blacks contract stipulates that condition clearly.
Williams won the fight by a unanimous points decision, with Liava's record now standing at eight successive losses, after he won his first four fights in his 12-bout career.
The positive that came from the rather bizarre mismatch is that money was raised for Christchurch's disaster relief, of which Williams donated a significant sum from his own pocket.
Sonny Bill Williams pushed all the way in third pro fight (Jan 2011)
Sonny Bill Williams boxing again, before heading to Canterbury (July 2010)
The best of Sonny Bill Williams for Canterbury in 2010
Sonny Bill Williams makes his boxing debut in Brisbane (June 2009)
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Anonymous June 06, 2011 1:02 pm

Anonymous June 06, 2011 1:05 pm

Anonymous June 06, 2011 1:13 pm

Anonymous June 06, 2011 1:13 pm

Anonymous June 06, 2011 1:18 pm

His elbow seems alright. WTF is his job? How hard can flipping burgers be on the ol' joints?
Ben June 06, 2011 1:19 pm

WelshOsprey June 06, 2011 1:25 pm

Still a great rugby player though
Anonymous June 06, 2011 1:27 pm

Martin Johnson June 06, 2011 1:43 pm

"put him against a real boxer and he'd get his ass kicked"
u fukn idiots.
What about if David Haye or one of the Klitschkos turned to Pro Rugby?
If they started playing in a shitty club team in the 4th division and scored a try and got the same media attention SBW does would you belittle them and say they need to man up and play in the Premiership or Super Rugby comps? Hell fuk no. They'd learn their trade at a lower level just like Sonny Bill is doing.
You answer your own stupid opinions by saying he isn't much of a boxer and yet he needs to fight real pros to prove it.
What if Sonny Bill decided to juggle his Super Rugby with being a Car Salesman? He sells a couple of shitty cars after a little training and everyone bags him saying he needs to sell 100 cars a week and also sell more than the top salesman at Ford, BMW and Mercedes before they take him seriously.
Fukn idiots who knock this kid for living his life need to take a long look at their own pitiful boring lives.
Anonymous June 06, 2011 1:48 pm

Dave J June 06, 2011 2:09 pm

ElTigre June 06, 2011 2:11 pm

Anonymous June 06, 2011 2:50 pm

Martin Johnson June 06, 2011 2:57 pm

Steady on colonial. I never said he was a decent boxer - but bagging him for pursuing an interest as if an oik like you or the other knockers are any better or more knowledgable is laughable.
I couldnt give a monkeys what he does, but seeing all you keyboard warriors talk it up is comical.
FML June 06, 2011 3:03 pm

Please enlighten us on whether YOU could you have beaten SBW's opponent oh mighty keyboard warrior?
tny June 06, 2011 3:17 pm

I'm certain he would batter me, I'm also certain he's a great athlete. He's a shit boxer though.
jason June 06, 2011 3:19 pm

Anonymous June 06, 2011 3:22 pm

medicaluke June 06, 2011 3:29 pm

I find it strange that its actually part of his contract.
Laz June 06, 2011 3:37 pm

Lets hope by the time he gets to his tenth opponent, the quality will have gone up a fair bit, on both sides.
Andrs June 06, 2011 4:09 pm

Lucius June 06, 2011 5:09 pm

Sander June 06, 2011 5:18 pm

I think it was one of his stipulations to sign for the All Blacks/NZRU. I can imagine these kinds of "hobbies" are prohobited. I can remember a skiing incident with a french prop ... supposedly he wasn't even allowed to go skiing.
Too many people bitching and moaning again; I'd reckon SBW had a good time, the fat bloke maybe not so much (but he got a lot of attention out of it) and SBW donated 100K for the Christchurch relief.
What's there to moan about?
Stephen June 06, 2011 6:41 pm

The media are the culprits here, who will do anything for ratings.
Forgive me for saying so (braces self for abuse) but I see shades of Gavin Henson here.
I hate ppl who write June 06, 2011 6:42 pm

As for him being a crap boxer...well maybe he is, I'm not an expert, but given his Rugby career I'm sure he gets to dedicate about a 3rd of the time (if that) to boxing compared to the average pro-boxer, so all in all not bad.
The fat guy would probably batter most of us, let alone Sonny! ;)
katman June 06, 2011 6:48 pm

Luxi June 06, 2011 6:50 pm

also his hair was kinda fucked up ugly
orange June 06, 2011 8:03 pm

Despite all of the press surrounding him, SBW seems to be quite the humble character. I know that because I wanted to hate on him at first, too. Now all I see is a guy who earns all he accomplishes, despite everyone and their brother having an opinion about it.
Les Bleus June 06, 2011 8:53 pm

Good on him for giving it a go. But for someone of his size which is absolutely huge! He should be knocking the shit out of these guys. I bet David Tua could play some pretty decent rugby granted his fitness was up to stratch as he is very powerful unlike SBW.
Anonymous June 06, 2011 11:06 pm

Why would someone with no experience jump in the ring with a top 200 boxer? Ofcourse SBW would loose (currently) to a top-class professional.
Everyone needs to start somewhere in all sports, the fact that he donated 100k to ChCh seems to mean nothing to some of you.
Well done SBW, now please get back on the rugby field :-)
Anonymous June 06, 2011 11:13 pm

ulsterchris June 06, 2011 11:48 pm

Anonymous June 07, 2011 1:46 am

was the whole match shown on tv? and the previous 3 on a sports chan? if so feel sorry for the real boxers out there who have 2 work at boxing 2 get recognized, not using fame 2 get on tv....
My point with this is that it seems like the media is taking it as a serious event which makes it look mediocre and embarrassing for all.
and something for "Martin Johnson" 2 think about.....
If David Haye did play in a rugby game for a shit team... would u expect a whole TV chan 2 cover the match... NO! maybe just a quick shot on the news.... so tbh your comments dont have nothing 2 do with this topic. also why do you have 2 come on here and piss everyone off with your bad manners and start a slaging match.
gobias industries June 07, 2011 3:57 am

Thank you so very much for your input.
Stephen June 07, 2011 6:07 am

Personally I have little opinion on the character of either. What's it to do with me?
miguel June 07, 2011 7:06 am

SBW came to union with a massive amount of hype and for the most part met all the challenges. but these were actual challenges. if SBW wants to be a boxer either now or in the future than he should be training more and quietly. No one expects him to bout with a top ranked opponent but at least fight men that are comparable in size and weight instead of these ridicoulsly mismatched fights.
nobody would fault an athelete who switches codes for competing in lower ranked divisions. thats fine to gain experience but these matches that SBW has been doing for the most part would be similar if beckham or ronolado started playing rugby in an u15 divison.
i understand no one wants SBW to fight a top ranked boxer or should expect him to win, but theres got to be plenty of lower ranked journeymen who could use the publicity and actually make a contest.
Anonymous June 07, 2011 10:53 am

Anonymous June 07, 2011 12:14 pm

Maybe post Rugby(say 30) if he gives it a proper go he could make a name for himself in Australasia as a boxer. But he looks arse, tbh.
Anonymous June 07, 2011 12:26 pm

You answer your own stupid opinions by saying he isn't much of a boxer and yet he needs to fight real pros to prove it.
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Don't talk on subjects you don't grasp. There's plenty of quality boxers who are no-names. SBW is handpicking bums.
And yes, actually, I would say that. If someone was highlighting dominance over the level of competition he was currently facing I would suggest he sign to a better club and play against better players(which happens, in case you didn't realise). And if a boxer was fighting well below his level I'd suggest(along with most boxing fans) that he fights an opponent worthy.
People like SBW, whether pros from another sport or out and out boxers are frowned upon in boxing. He's no boxer. He's a coward who's afraid to test himself and jeapordise Brand SBW.
He's had 4 pro fights and not one of them has been against a real boxer.
I will tell you now as fact that the majority of boxers fought better opponents in their first pro fight.
If SBW wants to fight to his level amongst amateurs he should go do that. If he wants to be a pro he should fight decent opposition and be willing to cop flak for fighting numpties. And let me tell you, all boxers catch flak if they try to make a career on the back of fighting bums.
MeAGain June 07, 2011 12:34 pm

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I am. My good friend will be ranked a top 30 Welterweight British boxer if he wins his next fight. UFC fighter Mark Bisping also used to DJ at my friends pub, oddly enough, prior to making it big.
The level of SBW is so low that many people here not only will know more about boxing than SBW, but some of us are probably more competent boxers. If I was 6'3 and 110kg I would beat SBW senseless inside or outside a ring. I'd give him a run for his money inside the ring and I'm 5'10 and 11 stone.
And this is why people are slamming the man. Because he's got people who know nothing about boxing - Like you, for example - thinking that he's actually got some skill and that his position as a professional has been justified.
If we use Rugby as comparison SBW boxing ability isn't even semi-pro. He's park football standard at best. He just happens to be very athletic and fixes fights against non-boxers.
Anonymous June 07, 2011 2:40 pm

Daaave June 07, 2011 3:31 pm

thanks for the laugh June 07, 2011 5:57 pm

"If I were as big and in shape as SBW, I'd kick his ass!"
"I know awesome boxers, so I'm cool by association"
"Yeah, I'd still talk trash if some awesome boxer decided to have some recreational fun and play lower level rugby - I'd tell him he's a loser who can't play pro"
"I don't do any of the above things, and I sit at my computer and rail on other people because I'm bored with my life"
thanks for the laugh June 07, 2011 5:57 pm

Anonymous June 07, 2011 10:32 pm

Anonymous June 07, 2011 11:00 pm

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Because I know about Boxing I'm an internet warrior? Does the same apply if I discussed my understanding of Rugby, my ability and experience? What If I gave you my opinion on the Socio-Economic nature of Somalia; Would I be a keyboard Karl Marx?
It's a sign of insecurity when you attack people, especially their character, because they know more than you do on a subject.
There's tens of thousands of people in Britain who would beat SBW in a square-dance. That number goes into the hundreds of thousands if you take away Williams superior height and life of physical training(in the gym).
When I tell you these things I'm not showing off or trying to portray myself as some sort of tough guy, because I'm NOT! And neither is SBW, which is the point! If you weren't an insecure juvenile with the understanding of a gold fish, you'd have clocked on.
But hey, if you want to believe that thinking you're tough is a prerequisite to knowing about and having an interest in boxing, go right ahead - Your fallacious reasoning only reflects poorly on you, I assure you.
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