Listen to Karmichael Hunt Mic'd up!

Matt Talaese red carded at fulltime

Jerry Collins' club perform Haka

Wallabies 31-man squad for RWC 2015

Some of the greatest amateur rugby hits

Alipate Fatafehi huge hit vs USA Eagles

Brilliant Richie McCaw lineout move try

Sonny Bill Williams warned for big hit

Jerry Collins Haka the day before crash

Saturday, July 09, 2011

Will Genia try and Digby Ioane breakdance & interview

Will Genia try and Digby Ioane breakdance & interview

The Queensland Reds won a Super Rugby title for the first time in the professional era as they beat the Crusaders 18-13 in a fascinating match at Brisbane's Suncorp Stadium earlier today.

The Reds were underdogs in many ways but showed their worth as a ferocious forward and defensive effort stopped the might of the Crusaders, who were hoping to take their eighth ever title, and first since 2008.

With scores tied at 13-13, Will Genia broke the match open late in the second half as he split the Crusaders defense and sprinted down field to score a memorable try. The inside run by Quade Cooper kept the tacklers guessing, so Genia just kept going.

"He didn't need me in the end and I was just there to congratulate him so what a fitting end to be right there by him when he scored the match-winning try,'' Cooper said.

"It pretty much sealed the game from there.''

Wing Digby Ioane had earlier scored a nice try of his own, and promised his fans a big celebration should they win the match. He did so with a full breakdance routine after the match, and brought out the famous turtle for good measure. A short clip of that can be seen in the interview that's included below.

Please bear in mind that both clips below are quick posts that aren't of the greatest quality. Better highlights and clips from the match will be posted over the next day or so.

Posted by Rugbydump at 4:57 pm | View Comments (89)

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woolysrugby July 09, 2011 3:47 pm

the aviva premiership final pissed all over this hash!!!!!!

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Anonymous July 09, 2011 3:48 pm

First to say first...i love how this is going to piss off loads of people haha

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Anonymous July 09, 2011 3:52 pm

The score and the attendance are both half that of the Heineken Final.


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Dave_7 July 09, 2011 3:57 pm

Haha Digby's got some moves!

Mice post Rd, cheers.

And guys, watch and appreciate the videos rather than trying to start arguments! It's getting rather annoying.

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Ivar Smallan July 09, 2011 3:58 pm

Why don't all the Super rugby fans and players go back to your colouring books and leave rugby to that of the big boys in the Heineken cup and Aviva premiership.

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Timbo July 09, 2011 4:06 pm

Um Suncorp Stadium only holds 52,000. yes it wasn't as big as the Heineken Cup Final and nor should it be. The Southern Hemisphere trination countries are separated by these things called oceans. A tad difficult to get everyone to Jo'Burg, Auckland or Sydney to take advantage of stadiums that can take 100,000 people. It was a great match and both teams put in 110%. Lets not sully that fantastic effort by comparing a SH provincial Rugby tournament with the advertising colossus that is the Heineken Cup. And wow we can't compare to NH rugby ooh. you tell us to go back to our colouring books? Grow up child.

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Anonymous July 09, 2011 4:06 pm

'The Southern Hemisphere trination countries are separated by these things called oceans'

Whose fault is that for organising a competition between countries that are so far apart?

Football doesn't seem to have that problem when English and Spanish teams play in Russia for the Champions League.

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Anonymous July 09, 2011 4:06 pm

Im from UK and i can 100% say that super rugby pisses all over the slow, set piece slug fest of the aviva. Watch that if you want to watch fat men wrestling for an hour and half. This stuff is so much more dynamic, exciting and adventurous. great final too!

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Anonymous July 09, 2011 4:12 pm

stupid pommy's jealous of our beautiful country and brilliant rugby, either side today would have beaten any northern hemisphere team, northern hemisphere will be struggling to keep up with the pace come world cup time. To fat and slow.

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woolysrugby July 09, 2011 4:33 pm

we will see come world cup ay!? the northern hemispheres intensity will be to much for you pussy tackling, glossy poofters ;) (remember boys its all banter yeh ;)
but i do stick to my first statement that the aviva premiership final was way better than this lol

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Steve Gibbons July 09, 2011 4:45 pm

To be fair to the Reds, tickets sold out for there 52k stadium in 40 minutes. So in my mind no doubt they would have filled the stadium, I was at a local pub, and the place was packed with people who missed out on tickets. To address the "half the score" comment. I think this just proves that the defence from both teams was astounding. It's also like saying the Lions and Chiefs game where the score was like 72-65 last year, that the Lions and the Chiefs must have been the two best teams in the competition. The scores of games mean nothing. Not meaning to take anything away from that HC match, because it was an excellent game. But I have no doubt whatsoever in my mind that both the Crusaders and Reds and Stormers for that matter could comprehensively defeat any NH team.

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Anonymous July 09, 2011 4:51 pm

My names Jonny Wilkinson and come world cup time I am going to shit all over the southern hemisphere flower petal rugby players!!! EEEEEAAAAAAAASSSSSSSYYYYYYY!

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Anonymous July 09, 2011 5:43 pm

@ steve
you're being partially respectful by saying the HC final was good but then you make a turd-troll comment at the end! You are deluded and trolling my convict friend.
Plus, nice to see all the bandwagon supporters in brisbane, I lived there for 3 years and attended many reds games, don't think I ever saw more than 5,000 at a game - in fact some old school fans I was chatting to at a game insisted it was better when they played at Ballymore because it at least felt like there was a crowd there. Typical Aus though, don't support your team when they're shit but paint the effing town red (literally) when they are doing well.

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Anonymous July 09, 2011 5:44 pm

I wish that.a Super xv club could play a NH club to prove the SH superiority in rugby

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Anonymous July 09, 2011 5:45 pm

How can anyone think that NH rugby is better then SH rugby since the top 3 teams in the world are in the SH

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Anonymous July 09, 2011 6:13 pm

Because the points system is shit!! World cups tell the story!!

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Anonymous July 09, 2011 6:13 pm

Anyone who actually watched this game knows that it was one hell of a match. I have seen very few like it.

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Omama04 July 09, 2011 6:14 pm

yeah to bad those packed stadiums always come to watch your northern hemisphere team get stomped on by the the southerners. Thats just prove theres gonna be much more pissed northerners after a game with the southerners .

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Anonymous July 09, 2011 6:20 pm

Because the points system is shit!! World cups tell the story!!

Where the SH won 5 times and the NH once?

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Poitr July 09, 2011 6:31 pm

Pretty obvious from the comments from pommieland that they feel threatened by the quality, speed and skillful play exhibited last night at the S15 final. Cant we just enjoy that there are such differences between NH & SH Rugby without trying to denigrate either. Enjoy Rugby you idiots.

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Anonymous July 09, 2011 7:12 pm

Where the SH won 5 times and the NH once?

By God I didnt know you guys could count in the SH!!!!! Astonishing! In the next message could you do the ABC...................... Please

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i love bacon July 09, 2011 7:25 pm

Yes, Dave_7, I agree with your comment:

Haha Digby's...getting rather annoying.

I concur. Maybe he and Gavin Henson ought to have a couple's dance on some silly television program.

Good job Reds, though. They deserved the win and for a while they looked like they maybe didn't have the heart to pull themselves through the 80, but they did (despite some of Lawrence's calls). Definitely edge-of-the-seat stuff there for the last few minutes.

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i love bacon July 09, 2011 7:35 pm

To be fair, though, I'm not sure which is more godawful...Ioane's dancing or SBW's "Handiman" hands every time he scores.

But whatever, I watch these games for the rugby itself, something this match was full of. Great stuff.

(One last note, regarding the post-match interviews, I thought Brad Thorn's was a pretty classy one. Seems like a standout guy...Tom Waits' voice and all.)

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Anonymous July 09, 2011 7:48 pm

I'm from the UK, and feel embarrassed by some of these NH comments. Trying to argue that this is anything less than world class rugby is just ridiculous. There's some great rugby being played all over the world right now, and this final was right up there. Get over yourselves, and stop parading your ignorance all over the internet.

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Anonymous July 09, 2011 8:09 pm

Can the trolls kindly please exit stage right. Thanks

Brilliant game

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Anonymous July 09, 2011 8:12 pm

Mr Im from the UK!! You embarass me being from the UK, Its called banter!! What a loser

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gf July 09, 2011 8:15 pm

Digby sounds alright.. just happy. Said the try was a team effort and doesn't mind making a fool of himself, which to me sounds like a cool guy.. Why do people react to these shite comments? Everyone gets wound up on the internet over sweet fa..

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Anonymous July 09, 2011 8:56 pm

"How can anyone think that NH rugby is better then SH rugby since the top 3 teams in the world are in the SH"

Brazil have dominated international football in the past, says nothing about their domestic leagues.

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Anonymous July 09, 2011 9:04 pm

Boring low scoring final.

22 missed tackles from the Crusaders along with a 50% success rate from the 12 lineouts.

And a Super Rugby final wouldn't be complete without some Super Gay dancing from Digby (I want to be a rapper but I'm from the land of Olivia Newton John) Ioane.

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Daniele Bonanno July 09, 2011 9:13 pm

Go Reds!

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Daniele Bonanno July 09, 2011 9:14 pm

Oh yeah - and Digby's a legend!

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Anonymous July 09, 2011 9:38 pm

So any Australian team would beat any European team? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Munster, a European club team, beat the piss out of Australia, an International Test team last year? Well done to the Reds, it's nice to see McCheat and his girlfriends being shamed, but don't try and tell us these teams would beat any of the European top five. That's just silly.

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moddeur July 09, 2011 9:52 pm

Awful refereeing, three officials on the pitch and yet heaps of missed infringements in rucks, offsides, knock-ons, forward passes, high tackles..
If the referee had blown the whistle each time he was supposed to, the final would surely not have been as nice to watch.

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Anonymous July 09, 2011 11:08 pm

ref disallowed a perfectly fine try too

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Darius July 09, 2011 11:30 pm

the trolling here is the worst/most pathetic ive ever seen on the internet...
Fantastic pressure game. Not pretty but intense and those games take individual brilliance to win..
bring on RWC...
put your money on AB's, Wallabies, Boks or Poms.. all are in with a chance


PS Polynesians love to dance its part of their culture, they're also very humble... also part of their culture.. but i guess you faded imperialists only know about crushing and fearing other cultures so it's understandable that you cant get your head around it.. Best of luck during the RWC..

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Darius July 09, 2011 11:44 pm

see what i did there ;)

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Darius July 09, 2011 11:52 pm

i see dead people

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Darius July 09, 2011 11:54 pm

i love staring at their wieners ;)

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Darius July 09, 2011 11:54 pm

i love staring at their wieners ;)

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Anonymous July 09, 2011 11:58 pm

Level 1
Australia, South Africa, New Zealand

Level 2
France, England, Argentina, Ireland

Level 3
Wales, Scotland, Samoa, Fiji

Sorry but thats the reality we are in right now

ouch :p

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Joe July 10, 2011 12:35 am

These jokers from the NH must be taking the piss.

They have won 1 world cup in six. In three months it will be won in seven.

Half the teams in the six nations have never actually beaten the All Blacks in an international, ever.

The best of the All Blacks played last night and lost and you think that any team in the NH would compete, let alone beat one of the teams playing last night?

They would beat any team north by 50 points. It would be such a disgrace that the NH teams would never allow it...

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Anonymous July 10, 2011 12:46 am

Some people just have no lives.

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Anonymous July 10, 2011 12:48 am

I would say;

New Zealand

Australia- South Africa
England Ireland
Scotland Italy

Tonga Samoa Fiji(Tonga seems hardcore at the moment)

btw I'm part french/part scottish and support Scotland over France (yes it's a david against Goliath thing).

Good game to Reds!!! Hope they enjoy the next couple of days!!
Can't wait for the RWC (where I will be...)

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Anonymous July 10, 2011 12:50 am


Check Leinster or Toulouse out....

Munster could do it the Ugly way too...

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Anonymous July 10, 2011 12:57 am

Hahaha NH supporters. No NH team would have been able to keep up with the speed and intensity of this final. NH plau slow rugby that's why come end of year tour the SH dominate and why your beloved lions are shit.

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Anonymous July 10, 2011 2:11 am

It's pretty obvious that every single comment making fun of this game is from one sad, sad little man.
And here's the saddest thing. The first comment was at 5:47pm and he keeps commenting for like the next four or five hours.
So this weirdo has kept coming back to this page over a period of several hours to leave strange comments. Seriously, this guy is just a pthetic excuse for a functioning member of society.

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Anonymous July 10, 2011 2:13 am

Great match, many of the world's best players on the pitch.
The two best fly-halves in the world, the best half back, the best no7, and test players throughout both teams from the two top teams in international rugby (Aus and NZ).
Well done the Reds, what a turn around from a few years ago.

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Anonymous July 10, 2011 6:15 am

Just remember your place in the world. If you need reminding, just have a look at the top left hand corner of your flags.

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Anonymous July 10, 2011 6:17 am

NH Trolls at it again. Nah you are right though...Our standard of rugby is SO bad that the combined team of Eng, Ire, Sco and Wales have managed to win a total of 2 tests against southern hemisphere nations since 1999. We have been so terrible over the years we managed to let you win 1 of the 6 world cups played. The All Blacks just dont cut it anymore, I mean when was the last time they ever won a grand slam? And to top it all off, the NH just has the great abundance of players, that they show no interest in signing half the players from NZ RSA and Aus rugby union and league. I mean your rugby is THAT good that absolutely no competitive team would want to sign a 31 year old ex league prop at centre. And yep to top it all off, in the history of all matches played between The all blacks and Eng, The lions, France, wales, scotland and ireland, the NH nations have managed a truly incredible 28 victorys, compared to the ABs lowly 166.

All these years i was mistaken. Looks like we are clearly second best.

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I hate ppl who write July 10, 2011 8:17 am

Someone's just being a cunt. I'm a Leinster fan, have grown up and played all my rugby in the NH and have never met one single fan or player that shares the views of these idiot trolls that come on here cos they're too young to drink, too ugly to have sex, or too untalented to actually play the game themselves.

I would say that the Munster team about 3 yrs ago might have traded punches with a SH team, but have to recognise that they are a SH influenced team.
Irish schools do transfers with NZ schools for our youth program, for our benefit not theirs. Fielding and kicking skills from our Gaelic coaches is all we bring to the table there.
I have a hard time imagining Leinster or Northampton keeping these guys at bay. Would love to see a champions cup between the S15 and HC winners, would be a great spectacle!

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Anonymous July 10, 2011 8:57 am

Can't stand these boring low scoring games, nice dancing though, reminds me of Britney.

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Anonymous July 10, 2011 9:02 am

NH would prefer club comps cause to be honest when it comes to International comps they really aren't any good. Goes for most of their sports, football hopeless, league hopeless, cricket hopeless, rugby hopeless

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moddeur July 10, 2011 9:15 am

Let's set one thing straight: the level of rugby during the final was excellent! The match was extremely enjoyable, was a real gladiator fight (scoreless until the 30th minute). It's just that the refereeing that was terrible. I don't want to criticize this particular referee or this particular championship. But you have to admit that with proper refereeing, this particular game would have had a lot less intensity (more whistle blowing means more pauses, more stops ...).

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Anonymous July 10, 2011 9:48 am

'I hate people who write "First"'.
You sir, are a douche bag.

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Chris G July 10, 2011 11:31 am

I'm not even sure if that guy is really from the NH - everything he says is so clearly wrong and ignorant and makes NH look bad I almost wonder if it's someone pretending to be from the NH to make us look stupid. I'm English, and no one I know thinks like that jerk does. We all know that historically the SH are better at rugby than us... the future's another matter though ;) I watched the full game and it was great, really exciting.

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Anonymous July 10, 2011 1:20 pm

Rugbydump, keep a leash on your trolls will ya.

Anyone who whinges about it being a low scoring game is just too hard to please. A real dogfight, trench warfare stuff with big defence and grit. It took 3 moments of absolute brilliance to produce 3 quality tries. Both teams had a positive mindset, and the game was a bit scrappy at times, but for the most part a fantastic spectacle. Loved every minute of it.

The officials were terrible, but i think their mindset was on the right track. The man in the middle didnt try to make the game about himself or blow the shit out of the whistle to ruin the spectacle. With an attitude like this rugby can continue to produce matches where we talk about the players afterwards, not the referees.

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Anonymous July 10, 2011 1:28 pm

LOL at people talking about the attendance. They just sold out Suncorp, in the heartland of League territory!

It's as good an accomplishment as Australian Rugby has ever achieved.

Sometimes I wonder if you Brits are living in your own world. It was only last year that Rugby in Australia was significantly below AFL and League, below soccer, and arguably not doing much better than basketball!

What the Reds have done for Australian rugby this year cannot be over-stated.

Do you people actually give a shit about Rugby outside of your own countries?

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Anonymous July 10, 2011 1:32 pm

Mr Im from the UK!! You embarass me being from the UK, Its called banter!! What a loser


If you're a soccer fan you can pretend it's banter. If you're a rugby fan it's called being a twat.

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Anonymous July 10, 2011 2:24 pm

Why does every vid on RD end up with mindless arguments, why cant we all agree that both the Heineken and super rugby finals were great games and just enjoy our fantastic game?
And rejoice that were not wendyball fans haha

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noodles July 10, 2011 3:07 pm

Can i ask if anyone from the SH watched the heineken cup final this year?

I would think Leinster would have done a lot of damage at the break down and caused a lot of trouble counter rucking against either the reds or crusaders and certainly could have contested attack wise.

There can be no doubt that super rugby is a far better spectacle than the aviva premiership or magners league. The french top 14 can be quite exciting though..

I would have liked to see the crusaders sharks game in twickenham this year refed by a NH ref...

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Anonymous July 10, 2011 3:26 pm

What is rugby about?

Rugby is valued as a sport for men and women, boys and girls. It builds teamwork, understanding, co-operation and respect for fellow athletes. Its cornerstones are, as they always have been: the pleasure of participating; the courage and skill which the Game demands; the love of a team sport that enriches the lives of all involved; and the lifelong friendships forged through a shared interest in the Game.

Please show some rugby character on one of the best rugby video websites. I think we would all enjoy that.

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Anonymous July 10, 2011 7:17 pm

I think a lot of people have the wrong idea about both NH and SH rugby...

Take super rugby for example... it is in some ways on par with NFL, it is backed by sponsors, its all about franchises... Take any british irish or french team for example.... we have Leinster, bath, tolouse etc etc etc (ten points if anyone can tell me where those teams are based)

Then in Superrugby we have the hurricanes, the stormers, the cheetahs etc etc etc, those are not "local teams" in the same sense of the word... they are franchise teams....

I mean no disrespect in my comment, i merely mean teams like bath, leinster etc all have deep roots, much more deep than the more recent SH club would it not be more natural to acknowledge the fact that as a franchise born competition the amount of money and media and hype and advertising and just general craze would follow similar suit to say NFL whereas up north they will have less of a great advertising campaign not followed on by the cheesey rugby talk shows we have for the super rugby....

In terms of quality of rugby.... well... from the cup final up north i'd say leinster looked like they'd give the reds a good run for their money, maybe not beat them but really im not sure, i'd put it down to how players feel on the day....

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RD July 10, 2011 7:21 pm

How about we keep thinks positive please folks? If you're not a fan of rugby and only want to see your own team play, rather don't watch other clips, and definitely don't comment on them. There's nothing worse than putting a post up, only to find that it's trashed by trolls. Please, take it elsewhere, or bite your tongue.


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Juggernauter July 10, 2011 9:34 pm

Well said RD!

Awesome rugby shouldn't lose its awesomeness just because of some trolls...

What do you say we stop complaining, annoying and crying and start enjoying??

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Anonymous July 10, 2011 11:07 pm

i would put my life savings on a full strength leicester tigers side beating either one of those two teams easily. they could beat any international side the north has to offer,
having said that so could northampton, leinster, or toulouse.
any of those 4 teams would beat either of the teams in the s15 final,
agree that at the moment that at international level the south is top hands down, but at club level the north is better, and you cant say its a slugfest and a forwards game in the north, not anymore, there were more tries per game in the prem this year than in the s15, apart from sarecens, but thats just a london based south african franchise.

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Anonymous July 11, 2011 2:37 am

All these whining poms are just annoyed that SH teams are better then them at their own sport, which i can understand.

If some other country beat Australia at Aussie rules football i would be pissed off

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Anonymous July 11, 2011 3:51 am

What a great game.
Basically every negative comment on here is from a single guy, who's obviously a wanker.

Just ignore him, he's some sad little man who's been coming on here for hours, days even and leaving the same comments over and over again.

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N July 11, 2011 4:32 am

By the way, for the guy who thinks Super Rugby franchises don't have tradition, the Reds are called the Queensland Reds.
So it's pretty obvious where they are from (hint, Queensland).
And they played their first game in 1882. So that's just a little bit of history.

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Joe Burt July 11, 2011 4:35 am

All the NH club teams are mostly Ozzies, Saffers and Kiwis. They're the teams best players as well.

Nothing NH rugby fans should be proud of.

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Anonymous July 11, 2011 7:28 am

How can you say that the NH club sides are better? Have they ever played each other? No! So why try and say they are and vis versa. What it really comes down to is the best players that the north have to offer are better than than the players the SH have to offer? Judging on past results No!

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I hate ppl who write July 11, 2011 7:41 am

('I hate people who write "First"'.
You sir, are a douche bag.)

Thats about as well thought out and articulate as you could manage eh? Sums up the thread really.

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Anonymous July 11, 2011 9:05 am

Only 18-13? I remember SH fans crying that the Prem was low scoring.

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Anonymous July 11, 2011 9:21 am

It's been two days and you're still trying? Get a life.

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Anonymous July 11, 2011 1:28 pm

@N.... do you mean to say I have to fully list every single Super rugby team and explain a little history about them?

Right so we have the Queensland Reds.... great... there is a team with a little history.... lets take now the Melbourne Rebels, i'll take a stab in the dark and say perhaps they're from melbourne.... i'll consult the great wikipedia and hooray, we have a winner, and when was it founded? 2010.... a lot of tradition poured into that one im sure...

Now ofcourse I am being flippant however you obviously missed my point and took offence which actually reflects your intellect you moron.

My point was not to put down super rugby yet explain the fact that it is a "franchise based" competition... hence why the hype around it is so much greater than a lot of NH competitions.... i.e its a competition founded on marketing and money making (whilst ofcourse being on the base of rugby) and therefore if you do not "throw" your team colours out there with a bit of advertising you may infact lose out on money... take Stade Francais for example.... a lot of that team from what i gather is about appearance, showing something different and "entertaining" (scantily clad big boobed women etc) which is in similar fashion to the Super rugby style of appealing to everyone and not just rugby fans....

If you throw two dozen cheerleaders out there, all of a sudden a group of guys having a "lads weekend" might decide "we dont know much about rugby but there is a huge hype and cheerleaders so instead of having a bbq during the day we'll go watch the game" and there you go 10-15 guys buy a ticket and you make money...

In the NH a group of people who know nothing about rugby wont go to a rugby match because there is nothing there BUT rugby...

Anyway if you must know I was actually born in the SH my roots lie in the SH (thanks to a relative taking an involuntary trip to Australia) and I love the Super Rugby, however im not an oblivious prick to the rest of the rugby world and my eyes are not tinted by my teams colours!

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Anonymous July 11, 2011 1:36 pm

Mr Im from the UK!! You embarass me being from the UK, Its called banter!! What a loser


If you're a soccer fan you can pretend it's banter. If you're a rugby fan it's called being a twat.

I think you'll find its the other way round you utter Knob!!!

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N July 11, 2011 2:36 pm

I didn't take any offence, just pointing out some facts.
Some of what you said made sense, some didn't.
If you look at the 15 teams, some have long histories and alot of tradition.
the Stormers are Western Province (based in Capetown). Have been playing since the 1880s.
The Bulls are Northern Transvaal. 1880s also.
NSW (Waratahs) has been around even longer, the 1870s.
Auckland (Blues), 1883.
Canterbury (Crusaders) and Wellington (Hurricanes) 1879.
The Cheetahs (Blomfentein based) are primarily Free State (1895).
The Sharks (based in Durban) are essentially Natal, 1890.
The Lions are based on Transvaal (1890).
The Cheifs and Higlanders are drawn from regions with a long history and several NPC teams with histories more than 100 years old but are more amalgamations than the other unions.
The Force(Perth), Rebels (Melbourne) and Brumbies(Canberra) are basically completely new constructs, but that's simply because of the fact that historically rugby union wasn't popular in Australia outside of NSW and QLD.

All the franchises are from a region or province. Some don't emphasise a place in their team title, because they are drawn from several teams with long histories, or because of weird marketting concepts. But any fan knows where they're from, and teams are moving towards hacing their region in their name, Australian teams particularly.
Its the ACT Brumbies (Australian Capital Territory - the state Canberra is in), Melbourne Rebels, New South Wales Waratahs, Queensland Reds and Western (ie Western Australia) Force.
The kiwis use regional names too, hence Canterbury is interchangable with Crusaders, Waikato/Cheifs, Auckland/Blues, Wellington/Hurricanes. Only the Highlanders don't use their region name much.

It's mostly the Saffers who drop their regional name, but if you know anything about the history of their provinces, you know the regions they are from and their long histories.

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Man with a solution. July 11, 2011 3:28 pm

Is we were to blow the northern hemisphere to smitherines would only a southern hemisphere exist? Or would the gravitational pull of the center of the earth reform the planet into another round ball shape; thus creating another northern hemisphere? If anyone knows the answer to this please respond so that possible cause of action can be taken against those whiny poofs from the north.

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American prop3 July 11, 2011 11:57 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHa Digby is doing the dougie . hahahahha classic ...

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Anonymous July 12, 2011 1:43 am

'Is we were to blow the northern hemisphere to smitherines would only a southern hemisphere exist? Or would the gravitational pull of the center of the earth reform the planet into another round ball shape; thus creating another northern hemisphere? If anyone knows the answer to this please respond so that possible cause of action can be taken against those whiny poofs from the north'

I suppose first you'd have to move out of your straw and tin shanty towns and actually gain a bit of wealth to afford to buy any decent weapons in order to achieve this first.... ofcourse i know you guys are still suffering from your droughts, or floods, or earthquakes and what not, so chances of that happening any time soon are pretty slim....

Got love how mother nature fucks with those commoners down south!

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Anonymous July 12, 2011 2:05 am

ha! Coming from a European, the continent with more public debt than GDP! Who are still in recession!
The ones who gave us the GFC!

Australia is the only western country not to go into recession in the last three years. We have almost no public debt. Our economy is growing every year. We have one of the highest per capita incomes in the world, and close to the lowest unemployment rate in the world.

Our finance sector is probably the most well regulated in the world.
We have huge amounts of resources, which we have massive markets for (ie India, China) right on our doorstep.

Sucks to be you!

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Anonymous July 12, 2011 6:49 am

I believe you're mistaken, the dance is called "the fake shower dance" haha

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moddeur July 12, 2011 8:31 am

@Some Anonymous person
Not that I want to defend our old Europe and its old ways, but constant economic growth is a sure way to deplete the world of its ressources. Also, debt is as meaningless as financial speculation. There is currently way more money owed in the world than there actually is, money.
I am sure that life in Australia is great, but I wouldn't measure it in terms of money, rather in terms of scenery and style of life.

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Anonymous July 12, 2011 10:35 am

On the contrary Modeur, resources are our biggest export. We have more than we could ever use for ourselves.
And scenery is difficult to enjoy without a job.

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Anonymous July 12, 2011 10:42 am

Oh, and that attitude to public debt you advocate? That's why Europe is an economic basket case.

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Paolo July 12, 2011 1:20 pm

Leaving aside the economic and political arguments (that don't really have a place here), this does look like it was a great game

Finals like these often aren't high-scoring due to what's at stake, but in terms of intensity, this looks right up there with any Heineken Cup final or Test match

Must admit I thought the Crusders would win this at a canter, so well done to Queensland

As as aside, does anyone stay on their feet at the breakdown in S15? This could hurt some teams during the WC if they are being ref'd by NH refs

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moddeur July 12, 2011 8:37 pm

Hehe, it's true that we tend to run the debt as hard as we can. But when all hell will break loose on Earth in the final days of the fossil fuel era, we'll just stop paying the debt and move on. It's just the way we are, selfish :)
Debt, what debt?
Anyhow, back to rugby now ...

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N July 12, 2011 11:22 pm

Paolo, it was really just this game.
For some reason Lawrence just let the rucks go. I suppose he wanted to let the game flow without too many penalties (which I'm all for).
Also the Crusaders are notorious for their tactics at the breakdown (just like the All Blacks). They dominate by commiting numbers in waves, they get beyond the ball and confuse the shit out of refs who don't notice the offiseds and players going off their feet cuz it all happens so fast.

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italianscrummy July 16, 2011 10:38 am

Fantastic final, i was rooting for the Reds and really happy they won. Props to the Crusaders for putting in a great battle.

But I'm still asking myself....why the hell did Fotuali'i go for the ankle tap from that distance? just tackle the guy!!

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Anonymous July 17, 2011 8:40 am

Yeah after watching the Samoa match this morning I can see wht the Australians are going to win the RWC. burrrrrrp.

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