DTH van der Merwe beats defender, pulls hamstring, sets up try

always wanted to try this at training. Incredible stuff

Try what? Tearing your hammy? Can't say I'd recommend it - feels like you've been shot in the back of the leg.

Don't understand a word of it, but match commentary in Gaelic sounds pretty cool.

DTH is quite the player, and absolute class in person. Here's to a speedy recovery, DTH!

Out of order of the defenders to follow through with the double tackle on him. Surely they could see he was injured? Don't think you can argue you're already committed when he's take three hops already. Maybe they thought he was just pissing about, but that's hardly likely is it.

Agreed. I seem to remember in the '07 World Cup Jason Robinson did something similar and I was very impressed by the sportsmanship showed by the South Africans. Correct me if I'm wrong of course.

Just seen it in the related posts!

Really? I just watched the video, and it looks like Butch James stamped on Robinson's legs after he went down.

i agree, but he played on enough to set up a try so they were within their rights to try to stop him

Been a fan of DTH for a while now. He's quite a good player, I think many canadians were kinda sensations in the World Cup (Kleeberger, Carpenter, Sinclair, McKenzie, Pritchard, DTH, O'Toole, to name a few).

Now that the IRB has launched its plan to give us Tier 2 and 3 nations more competition I hope we'll see more players from different countries playing at the top level. Canada will play against the Maoris in Oxford and Portugal is coming to Chile! Also Japan are touring Georgia and the USA will go to Rumania.

Glad that the participation issue is being taken care of.

Cheers!

Isn't saying that the broadcast is in Gaelic when it's Scottish like saying that other broadcasts are in Germanic when in English, or Romance when in French?

You do have a point.

Is there much difference between the dialect in Scotland and Ireland, the "Gaelic" dialect...?

Apart from the "Scottish" language you refer to is also called Gaelic - or sometimes Scottish Gaelic. Usually pronounced "gallic" (in contrast to the Irish "gay lick", but it's the same word.

Rugbydump is perfectly correct.

The language is Gaelic.

As Stroudos says above, there is Irish Gaelic (pronounced "gay lic") and Scottish Gaelic (pronounced "gallic"). For some reason, people seem to only know about the Irish one. They are not the same language, although they do share much in common, but are too different to simply be regarded as dialects. (I am not a speaker, but am assuredly informed).

So referring tot his as "Gaelic" is perfectly correct. There no harm in qualifying it as "Scottish Gaelic", but definitely not simply "Scottish" as Reality suggests in his original post as that is likely to be confused with "Scots" another language/dialect (there is debate over that) which is completely different from Gaelic.



P.s. to Rugbydump. I visit here a lot but don't post often. When i tried to log in here it told me that my username was invalid and I had to post as a guest. Can you help me out with this? Don't know why that's happened!?

Or you could refer to it as Gaidhlig (the Gaelic spelling for it) this is my dads first language as he grew up on the isle of lewis and i may be one of the few people to actually appreciate coverage in this language!

To clarify for people it is a different language from irish gaelic, sort of like spanish and portuguese but closer.

Would be great to see even more Pro 12 clips

Ah, then perhaps you can clarify what the bloke meant at 40 seconds in when he said:
SHITTER!!! Shit verraal gamaakh verall Ahmed.

Well, when I said 'Gaelic when it's Scottish' I was talking about the Scottish variety of Gaelic i.e. Scottish Gaelic. Anyway, there seems to have been a misunderstanding. I wasn't trying to reproach or educate; I was trying to understand. Most people abroad refer to Irish as Gaelic, but then you have the Scottish variety of it, which evidently people also refer to as Gaelic, but calling both by the same name seems like madness to me.

Eh, right. Like you said, it's Scottish Gaelic, i.e. one language from the Gaelic language family. So since it's one language of that family, my question is why is the name of the family of languages used to talk about it, and not the language itself.

And Pretzel, they're mutually understandable to an extent, but they are different languages at the end of the day, so they are fairly different.

Because there is no other name for it. It just so happens, possibly because they share roots, that both langauges are referred to as Gaelic, but that is the name of the language, not the "family" as you put it. The "Scottish/Irish" is used by some for clarity's sake, but it isn't the name of the actual language and isn't required orally due to the different pronounciations. I suppose you could argue that they are two different words when spoken which just happen to be spelt the same way.

I'm not sure about those guys tackling, I mean when you see the Jason Robinson video.. JR knows he's done his leg in, he hobbles and stops the defence were confused initially and then sort of regrouped and JR dropped to the ground himself as a bok came charging in.

Contrary to this video where DTH continues to run/hobble... now in theory, if they had left him and not touched him, would he have hobbled his ass to the try line? I mean he set up a try whilst injured, that alone to me is reason enough to keep aiming for the guy with the ball unless of course he renders himself out of the game. For instance a game I played, an opposition player was running with the ball and a team mate came flying in for the tackle and caught one of the guys legs from the side and broke it, but didn't hang on, so technically the guy was free to, well... continue running, if it was possible with a broken leg... He yelled out "shit ref broke my leg broke my leg" and hit the deck like a sack of spuds, of course the sound alone was enough to tell us something was bad, but my point is, if that player had not shouted out, we may have gone piling into him. So in some sense if DTH had just yelled out or something and hit the deck, players would have thought well somethings not right, and probably stopped, but DTH continued on, drew the player and gave the pass...

I watched the video again and yeh maybe the 7 was a little mistimed there, but I think his intentions were to try and knock DTH as he passed it, to try and dislodge the ball...

Have a word with yourself. I know we can't hear him on the video but I imagine he made at least some kind of yelp - as if suddenly stopping running and hopping along grabbing your hamstring isn't enough of a clue that you've just fucked your hamstring.

And I hardly think he was drawing the defender, he was probably thinking "what the **** do I do now?", then he'd have heard Morrison calling for the ball and shovelled it away as quickly as he could. Or as the commentator so eloquently put it: "kha chk shlendikh cgha shakha da balle de Graeme Morrison, na Morrison na loooozhk"

"Have a word with yourself" Lol, been a while since I've used that phrase. I'm not trying to suggest it was a pleasant experience on his part, and I sure as hell am not suggesting that player should blindly go flying in to tackles. However he did continue playing and did make a brilliant offload which set up the try. So as I said what do the opposition players do? Render him untouchable on account of his injury?

As I said with JR he saw flying boks and hit the deck quick ruling himself out of the game.

Whereas DTH saw the try was on, and still continued play..

I'm inclined to agree with both of you here. Pretzel, I don't think he could have gone to ground like Robinson did, because you see in the video that his muscle goes, he hops along for only a few steps, and then passes it. He couldn't have just gone to ground, because he was running far too quickly to immediately go down. Even Robinson slowed himself down first before hitting the deck.

Having said that though, from Zebre's perspective he was still playing, even if he was struggling, and in a situation like that where it's 2-on-1 and a try will decide the game, I can understood why the Zebre didn't want to just leave him be. Although, maybe the second guy was a bit late.

Hmmm, I think you're right, having watched it again, I see the only way for him to actually have gone down before the tackle, he would have had to have something snap instantly... tendon, leg, etc etc.. I don't think he could have lowered himself as JR did. I do think the hit from the back looked a bit late, but as I said maybe it was a last yard desperate effort to hit Dth and make him knock the pass on or knock into his team mate etc.

It did look a bit late though...

0:40 - SHITTER!! Shit verraal gamaakh verall Ahmed.

To be able to maintain focus after pulling a hammy would take a lot grit. Nicely done.

Canadian/Afrikaans hybrid rugby players? Mmmm excellent

I thought the same thing when I first viewed the video, that the second tackler was a little late and over exuberant. But then I thought about how fast the game is played at this level and how difficult it is to pull up when you've committed and how frankly as pointed out dth was still attacking the line. As the Great tana said, this ain't tiddly winks.

As for the Gaelic discussion, here in Canada, which has a Gaelic university, it's never referred to as Scottish, but just Gaelic. I've heard the Irish prefer Irish to Gaelic and obviously we know what the welshies like.

Still easier than to understand than cockney

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Is he from the Ontario van der Merwes or the Quebec clan?

Neither, actually. His family emigrated to Saskatchewan, and he later moved to BC.