Thursday, November 15, 2012
All Black Tamati Ellison arm grabbing with Scotland's Ryan Grant
Here is a quick look at an incident that Scotland fans were unhappy about this past weekend. The outrage came as it looked as though All Black Tamati Ellison grabbed and chicken winged prop Ryan Grant as they both dived for the ball early in the game.
Grant ended up with his arm twisted in an uncomfortable looking position before Tim Visser and Cory Jane got involved. The two players separated and that was it, but fans tweeted furiously about it this week, including some to IRB Chief Executive Officer Brett Gosper.
Gosper, who has taken some serious heat over what some view as a lenient one week ban for Adam Thomson for use of the boot, replied to the request for a citing saying: "Saw it. Understand. Apparently debatable it would warrant red card according to experts."
When this incident happened on Saturday many took to Twitter to share their thoughts on it, including former All Black and friend of Ellison's, Toulouse flyhalf Luke McAlister.
"Cheeky little bit of mma there @TamatiEllison #armbar" joked McAlister.
However, if you watch closely you'll see that it may not be as malicious as it appears, as Grant actually grabbed and held Ellison's arm first (pause video around 21 seconds), which the All Black then tried to wriggle free from, and they both ended up in an awkward, dangerous looking position.
Depending on which side of the fence you sit, you may still view it differently, but with only one angle and no complaints from Scotland, there was quite possibly nothing in it.
As always, please feel free to share your opinion as a comment below.
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iaxm22 November 15, 2012 10:28 pm

IanBru November 15, 2012 10:54 pm

Also, speaking as a Glasgow man, Mr Grant can do no wrong. Frankly, how dare Ellison even touch him? HOW VERY DARE HE??
1i November 15, 2012 11:37 pm

Reality November 15, 2012 11:52 pm

Maybe I'm just not seeing something that other people are seeing, but it seems really clear-cut to me. I mean you can see Grant struggling to break free at the end with his arm behind his back, and you can see Ellison grab Grant with his right arm. I don't understand what 1i is talking about in his comment.
stroudos November 16, 2012 3:23 pm
100% agree. He should have been banned for life. Most despicable thing I've seen on a rugby pitch. (Well the Saffa that broke Doddie Weir's leg on the 97 Lions tour certainly comes close but even that was not as deliberate and malicious as what that Clark bastard did). What's the news on Rob Hawkins but the way, has his arm - ie part of his body that pays his mortgage) recovered yet?
browner November 16, 2012 12:20 am

You've a chance to influence the future....and the history over gouging & spearing & tackles through the neck proves that leniency does not deter.
Calum CLARK has a screw loose, don't compare the two .. CC should be banned for life ! outrageous behaviour, outrageous ban period, says what deliberate arm breaking is ok.....NO NO NO !!
KIDS are watching !!
James November 16, 2012 12:47 am

"Browner" I think your going a little OTT mate! You sound like the reverends wife out of the Simpsons "won't somebody pleas think of the children"
I've had worse done to me and I'm a 68kg winger! Brush it off, get back up and get on with it.
SocalRugby November 16, 2012 1:03 am

Jon November 16, 2012 1:47 am

Christ I'm sick of the constant focus on things like this.
Motjan November 16, 2012 10:14 am

cboo November 16, 2012 12:03 pm

Jon - Bit of a wrestle? Joke. He should be banned from the game - no place for that coward.
PJ November 16, 2012 1:54 pm

Ellison clearly takes Grant's arm and rolls over to use his weight to bend the arm the wrong way. Grant is clearly trying to get free
Its nowhere near the ball and not even in the ruck. There is absolutely no excuse for play like this
stroudos November 16, 2012 3:32 pm
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