Tuesday, March 05, 2013
The Dimitri Yachvili stamp on Racing Metro's Henry Chavancy
Last week Biarritz scrumhalf Dimitri Yachvili was cited for repeatedly stamping late in the Top 14 game against Racing Metro, last Saturday. Due to the delay in the disciplinary procedures in France, Yachvili is actually free to play until his hearing.
Yachvili was sin-binned for his multiple stamps on Henry Chavancy's legs as the Racing Metro player found himself trapped in the bottom of a ruck, apparently preventing the ball from emerging.
The incident occured as Biarritz were hot on attack, attempting to narrow the gap in the Parc des Sports Aguilera fixture, which ended with Racing winning 23-11.
Yachvilli, a veteran of 61 Tests, was cited but he will only face his hearing come March 13, which means he is free to play until then. As a result, he played in Friday night's Basque derby against Bayonne, where he kicked two penalties as the sides drew 6-6.
Ireland prop Cian Healy was banned recently for a similar incident, although he appealed and on a technicality, had the suspension reduced by a week.
His hearing was five days after the incident, whereas Yachvili will only appear before the discplinary committee almost three weeks after trampling on Chavancy.
There's plenty of time to discuss this one before we find out what kind of suspension he receives.
What are your thoughts on it? Let us know in the comments below
Posted at 8:55 am | 42 comments
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Charlie March 05, 2013 3:13 pm
Chavancy knows exactly what he's doing there, holding his legs in front of the ball to slow it down, it gives Racing more time to organise defence. There's nothing new about scrumhalves using their feet to move people from the ball, this is just the same thing. Racing will be happy with that, getting one of the main Biarritz playmakers in the bin and the chance to get out of the danger zone.
I play 6/7 and I've done that so many times, if you can slow down opposition ball without being penalised then why wouldn't you?
I play 6/7 and I've done that so many times, if you can slow down opposition ball without being penalised then why wouldn't you?
pescarranas March 05, 2013 3:20 pm
that´s not qettin the leg out nor an advertising stamp. That´sa dance on a leg he must be strongly sanctioned
Ted The Rugby Head March 05, 2013 3:23 pm
I agree Chavancy was at fault but I think Yachvili went a wee bit too far with the stamping ....as for the delay in the Citing hearing that seems to suit France for the rest of whats left of the Six Nations given their apparent problems at 10
hagmiester March 05, 2013 3:30 pm
There is no provision in the law book to allow scrumhalves to use their boot in that manner. It was bordering on serious foul play. Regardless of the actions of Chavancy, Yachvilli should have let the ref deal with the ball being illegally slowed down instead of taking the law into his own hands
Anton March 05, 2013 3:59 pm
France lost a RWC final waiting for the ref to deal with McCaw...
John March 06, 2013 1:13 am
I have just read your comments and thought blinking hell are you seriously saying it is ok to stamp on someones leg like this!! If so then sorry you need to think again as the game has moved on thank goodness!
Wow totally shocked
Wow totally shocked
browner March 06, 2013 1:11 pm
Bollocks....
Charvancy arrives correctly gets hands on ball legitimately, so it's now turned into a Maul.
The Maul collapses, and Charvancy is entitled to prevent the ball being available to secure a turnover for his team ......Ball is off the ground so it never becomes a ruck.
Therefore even proper foot use! wasn't appropriate let alone these cheap shots.
Therefore it should have been RED
THE CITERS have a duty to cut out this shameful & historically believed no9 'right to Stamp !
Charvancy arrives correctly gets hands on ball legitimately, so it's now turned into a Maul.
The Maul collapses, and Charvancy is entitled to prevent the ball being available to secure a turnover for his team ......Ball is off the ground so it never becomes a ruck.
Therefore even proper foot use! wasn't appropriate let alone these cheap shots.
Therefore it should have been RED
THE CITERS have a duty to cut out this shameful & historically believed no9 'right to Stamp !
Guy March 05, 2013 3:18 pm
Definitely looked worse than Healy's stamp. In my humble opinion off course. The citing proces is quite laughable in this case. Three weeks before the hearing takes place. Really? Why? Is everybody on strike?
Mark March 05, 2013 3:25 pm
The fact that Chavancy was in the way is no excuse for a stamp.
Ruck him if necessary and he'll move soon enough if he can, but why do players seem to go straight for the stamp which can result in serious injury?
Ruck him if necessary and he'll move soon enough if he can, but why do players seem to go straight for the stamp which can result in serious injury?
TheFlanker March 05, 2013 3:31 pm
I have played in every position in the forwards and this is the part of the game I hate, stamping like this can end up in broken ankle or leg depending on where the pressure is applied. Cian Healy desereved his ban and Yachville will deserve his. 3 weeks is also about as much as a joke as the reffing of scrums in the International game!
Jinx March 05, 2013 3:54 pm
I agree that Chavancy was in the way, but there was no need for a stamp. Especially a repetitive stamping like that. No need for it. He should be ashamed of himself!
hennock March 05, 2013 4:02 pm
Why was Parisse's hearing 4 days after the incident, and Yachvilli gets three weeks? Is there an explanation for that, or is it just a random decision?
marty March 05, 2013 4:34 pm
Shameful, just shameful to stamp a player, whatever the situation. This is not meant to be in rugby
Facepalm March 05, 2013 7:04 pm
But we see it all the time? Sometimes it's shameful other times it's allowed and completely brushed over. That's what I don't get.
alasdairduncan3 March 05, 2013 8:07 pm
The citing commissioner must be a Frenchman
Colombes March 05, 2013 5:14 pm
There's nothing new to see a 9 using his foot to "move away" offside defenders, but here, yachvili went too far. he will receive the ban he deserves.
On Healy's case, i heard the irfu appealed the decision because of technical issues. whatever, the morale is that healy was condemned for 3 weeks and has finally missed just 1 international rugby match.
it revives the debate to may change weeks bans in match bans
On Healy's case, i heard the irfu appealed the decision because of technical issues. whatever, the morale is that healy was condemned for 3 weeks and has finally missed just 1 international rugby match.
it revives the debate to may change weeks bans in match bans
Dai March 05, 2013 5:16 pm
What a coward! Thought he was above that kind of thing
Peter March 05, 2013 5:52 pm
Shameful.
The ball was not on the ground.
He was specifically targetting the joint and the lower leg.
Deserves a long ban immediately.
The ball was not on the ground.
He was specifically targetting the joint and the lower leg.
Deserves a long ban immediately.
Gonzoman March 05, 2013 6:08 pm
I'm not sure Chavancy did anything wrong. Once the initial tackle was made he came through the gate, stayed on his feet and got his hands on the ball before the ruck was formed. The tackled player was holding on, then the ruck formed and quickly turned into a pile of bodies. There was no way that Chavancy could have gotten out, and in fact Biarritz should have been penalized for not releasing the ball.
After all that, Yachvili comes in and does his best Fred Astaire impression on Chavancy's leg which wasn't really preventing the ball from coming out. Foul play indeed! Yachvili should know better, and he deserves to sit for a long time.
After all that, Yachvili comes in and does his best Fred Astaire impression on Chavancy's leg which wasn't really preventing the ball from coming out. Foul play indeed! Yachvili should know better, and he deserves to sit for a long time.
Reality March 05, 2013 7:33 pm
Oh my God. That's ten times worse than Healy's recent stamp. At least Healy had the (unacceptable) justification that Cole was purposefully blocking the ball with his leg in the air, but here the guy's leg is just on the ground under a pile of bodies. I can't believe that he just kept stamping and stamping for no reason. It's really terrible. And his 'push' into the face of the Racing player afterwards wasn't very nice either.
I'm trying to brace myself for all the conspiracy comments about how French players are unfairly treated when Yachvili gets 10 weeks.
I'm trying to brace myself for all the conspiracy comments about how French players are unfairly treated when Yachvili gets 10 weeks.
threma March 05, 2013 8:13 pm
Anton got it right, the referee is not doing the job, then do it yourself!
DrG March 05, 2013 11:00 pm
I hope his legs and arse hurt from that stamp! Sick of seeing players get away with lying in the way.
Bring back the boot...
Bring back the boot...
DrG March 10, 2013 2:26 am
Absolutely fine and totally acceptable, if I was lying all over the ball however.
If I was out of the way of the immediate action and you stuck a boot on me, I'd have your number marked (hopefully) and look forward to dishing out some revenge.
If I was out of the way of the immediate action and you stuck a boot on me, I'd have your number marked (hopefully) and look forward to dishing out some revenge.
browner April 03, 2013 3:15 pm
Illegal Boot use has no place in the game,
thugs should join cage fighting competitions but my £ says they aren't brave enough to ........ preferring cheap shots against the unprotected ... cowards all of you
thugs should join cage fighting competitions but my £ says they aren't brave enough to ........ preferring cheap shots against the unprotected ... cowards all of you
Bigross March 05, 2013 11:55 pm
Just a quick note on your sentence about Cian Healy:
"Ireland prop Cian Healy was banned recently for a similar incident, although he appealed and on a technicality, had the suspension reduced by a week."
Healy was banned for three weeks, but the start of the ban was postponed for a week. It then transpired that we wasn't allowed play while waiting for the ban to start. Healy then argued on appeal that he was therefore effectively banned for four weeks. This appeal was upheld.
Therefore, it's not so much a case of the ban being reduced by a week "on a technicality", as a case of the ban NOT being artificially inflated by a week "on a technicality".
"Ireland prop Cian Healy was banned recently for a similar incident, although he appealed and on a technicality, had the suspension reduced by a week."
Healy was banned for three weeks, but the start of the ban was postponed for a week. It then transpired that we wasn't allowed play while waiting for the ban to start. Healy then argued on appeal that he was therefore effectively banned for four weeks. This appeal was upheld.
Therefore, it's not so much a case of the ban being reduced by a week "on a technicality", as a case of the ban NOT being artificially inflated by a week "on a technicality".
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ChillDoubt March 06, 2013 2:10 am
That is pure filth, plain and simple.
And please, let's stop all this "Chavancy knew what he was doing" rubbish. Whether he did or not when did it become the opposing player's right or duty to dish out the punishments?
I may be wrong but I was always led to believe that was the job of the referee!!
The guy was trapped at the bottom anyway, how the hell was he supposed to get out of there?
Typical cheap shot from Yachvilli, I hope they throw the book at him page by page because I hate this sort pure nastiness in our game.
And please, let's stop all this "Chavancy knew what he was doing" rubbish. Whether he did or not when did it become the opposing player's right or duty to dish out the punishments?
I may be wrong but I was always led to believe that was the job of the referee!!
The guy was trapped at the bottom anyway, how the hell was he supposed to get out of there?
Typical cheap shot from Yachvilli, I hope they throw the book at him page by page because I hate this sort pure nastiness in our game.
Kettlerugby March 06, 2013 2:42 am
Never liked him, arrogant, overrated. If he slows the ball down then you will get a penalty. Stamping is just a cheap shot really
donkeyballs4000 March 06, 2013 8:58 am
Dear RugbyDump Admins:
I hate that all these instances of foul play get so much attention on this great site.
To put it in context, 3 whole weeks of the Top 14s best tries got the same amount of attention.
I come here to see great rugby plays, not reasons to dislike the sport.
I hate that all these instances of foul play get so much attention on this great site.
To put it in context, 3 whole weeks of the Top 14s best tries got the same amount of attention.
I come here to see great rugby plays, not reasons to dislike the sport.
Rugbydump March 06, 2013 7:06 pm
Thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately news is news and as such we can't ignore these type of things as many would like to see the big talking points, good or bad.
We are concious of trying to maintain a certain level of positivity though, so the less dirty incidents there are, the easier it'll be.
We are concious of trying to maintain a certain level of positivity though, so the less dirty incidents there are, the easier it'll be.
donkeyballs4000 March 06, 2013 8:59 pm
Why not pile all of these incidents into one post and not the other way around?
Rugbydump March 07, 2013 1:52 pm
Too many reasons to get into. If you'd like to discuss further, feel free to drop us a mail please. Thanks
FelipeG March 06, 2013 11:09 am
Disappointing from Yachvili.
When players that I like do things like that I feel "betrayed".
It was the same feeling with Rougerie eye gouge.
Why those disciplined professional players come to that? I guess there must be reasons. There are bad guys playing rugby (mainly in England he he he, just kidding). But Yachvili doesn't seem to be a mere brute.
Maybe it s consistent with their personality. When you have really high expectations, it can be hard to stand a pirate trying to slow down the ball.
I played rugby couple of years, almost never got a ban, or even a penalty against me. But then there was this game, where I had the feeling that every opponent was cheating in every possible way and the ref was asleep...
Still, trying to understand doesn't mean it doesn't deserve a sanction.
When players that I like do things like that I feel "betrayed".
It was the same feeling with Rougerie eye gouge.
Why those disciplined professional players come to that? I guess there must be reasons. There are bad guys playing rugby (mainly in England he he he, just kidding). But Yachvili doesn't seem to be a mere brute.
Maybe it s consistent with their personality. When you have really high expectations, it can be hard to stand a pirate trying to slow down the ball.
I played rugby couple of years, almost never got a ban, or even a penalty against me. But then there was this game, where I had the feeling that every opponent was cheating in every possible way and the ref was asleep...
Still, trying to understand doesn't mean it doesn't deserve a sanction.
Jack March 06, 2013 1:26 pm
The boot on the player is fine, refs do not deal with players not rolling away and players should take it into their own hands if needs be! You can't jus let players lie there and slow ball down, it's a huge grey area we don't want boots on bodies like the old days but if a ref won't deal with players not rolling away then this will happen! If a player had been over chavancy someone would of put there boot on him then! So suddenly it's ok because of te angle of his hips! Rucking/stamping players should accept that if there killing the ball then they will get stamped on! No player wants to intentionally hurt someone but this part of the game is a grey area, as for the delay in the hearing it's a disgrace parisse was within a week but this a French league protecting a French player, this happens across many sports eg Suarez and terry in football! Boots on bodies happen and it's just different refs interpretations of the law! If you don't want to get stamped on when you are technically cheating by killing the ball then go play league
tc March 06, 2013 6:58 pm
i dont mind giving or receiving a good shoeing if someone is deliberatly slowing down the ball or visa versa, i expect it. however where you put your boot on someone and how shows clear intent to cause deliberate injury. He was jumping up and down on his ancle and shin bone. In my mind i would do that to deliberatly hurt someone for a long time. I would expect a decent ban for it myself.
suntzu March 06, 2013 8:33 pm
That's just bad refereeing, he should have been ready to blow a penalty for holding on, there was obvious holding on, the ball was slow out so no advantage... Next there's stamping which he seems to be completely aloof... and finally he looks on as the guys spark up... if he would have done his job he would have protected the player which forced the turn-over in a perfectly legal way from going out injured... I hope the ref gets as much of a ban as Yachvilli...
07015678 March 07, 2013 12:39 pm
There's raking, then there's stamping right on the ankle joint. Absolutely disgraceful. His reaction to the confrontation was a terrible too. He needs to be heavily sanctioned for this.
Jos March 08, 2013 5:59 pm
It should have been a dark red card. This looks very cynical to me.
browner April 03, 2013 3:18 pm
10 day ban was a joke, IRB oversee the game, and should be hanging their head in shame
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