Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Midweek Madness - Trevor Nyakane goes into Beast mode with incredible lift
Yes, it's happened again. As the Cheetahs picked up a well deserved 27-26 away win over the Waratahs in Friday’s Super Rugby clash, we saw another incredible moment from a prop at a restart. And no, this time it wasn't the Beast. Not the original anyway.
In 2011 fans watched on in disbelief as Tendai 'Beast' Mtawarira held Sharks skipper Keegan Daniel up in the air as he acrobatically claimed a high restart in the Currie Cup. Daniel had to stretch to get the ball, but the Beast held him up by his shorts as his legs pointed skywards.
A year later the same thing happened in Super Rugby, except that time it was with the much heavier lock, Anton Bresler. Freakishly, it happened again to a lesser extent shortly after that.
At the weekend though we saw a repeat performance by a South African prop and lock, this time with young Cheetahs loosehead Nyakane, who supported big Francois Uys at a restart.
They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and this was beautifully executed.
If you listen carefully at around 16 seconds there's also some amusing noises coming from Cheetahs flyer Raymond Rhule, who scored twice on the night but got stuck under a Waratahs player at the ruck, and made sure everyone knew about it.
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Posted at 3:10 pm | 25 comments
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Guy March 20, 2013 10:30 pm
Great strength or poor positioning? Not entirely sure. First time I saw Beast do it, it was great. It looks quite dangerous and if the opposing player jumps for the ball at speed, this might end in some sort of disaster.
Citing Commissioner March 20, 2013 10:59 pm
So people are cited for "taking someone past the horizontal" in barely dangerous situations, yet this is legal???
Not saying it should be banned but seriously someone needs to sort out some consistency.
Not saying it should be banned but seriously someone needs to sort out some consistency.
Reality March 20, 2013 11:33 pm
Yeah, I really don't think this is something to be celebrated. It's just really dangerous and as Guy said, sooner or later it'll probably end in a disaster, and people won't be so quick to say, "Wow! That's so cool". And contrary to what the commentators were saying, if I was in the jumper's shoes I'd be absolutely livid with the lifter who was a hair's breadth from dropping me on my head.
browner March 21, 2013 7:37 pm
Why do they need to do it, lifting was never practiced years ago, it kinda cam about at the same time as line out lifting .....unless i'm mistaken
i'd ban it completely....
just catch the ball normally & play ......... no blocking off support players etc, so easier to referee as well
i'd ban it completely....
just catch the ball normally & play ......... no blocking off support players etc, so easier to referee as well
DrG March 22, 2013 2:17 pm
They do it for exactly the reason you just stated, blocking off support players basically...
You cannot touch a guy in the air, the jumper is "in the air" therefore he can make a nice clean (hopefully) catch and he has all the time in the world to do it, rather than perhaps catch a nice high ball with your feet firmly planted and get steam rolled by the opposition pack.
You cannot touch a guy in the air, the jumper is "in the air" therefore he can make a nice clean (hopefully) catch and he has all the time in the world to do it, rather than perhaps catch a nice high ball with your feet firmly planted and get steam rolled by the opposition pack.
browner March 23, 2013 12:14 am
more reasons to ban it ....... IMO its exploiting a law loophool ............ i dont think it was ever expected that players would get immunity by being lifted in the air by a teammate in open play.....
New law needed, get rid of it.
New law needed, get rid of it.
CambridgeshireKid March 20, 2013 11:59 pm
If the ball is going over have confidence in the players around to go get it, don't risk your neck like that.
TotesMcGoates March 21, 2013 12:01 am
Hmmm, it might be worth noting that the extent that the Uys leans back is what takes him over Nyakane's head and sends him toppelling over the other side. I reckon the big man's done really well to hold on to him and make sure that he doesn't land on his head.
TotesMcGoates March 21, 2013 12:53 am
It all happens in a split second. Plus, I reckon the onus is on the man jumping to direct traffic; he should have shuffled back a step before going up. Easier to do it on the ground than up in the air.
Pete March 21, 2013 9:06 am
Good, but not comparable to the two epic lifts from the Beast which involved holding the jumper under control and straight-armed in the air for a couple of seconds rather than dropping him straight onto his shoulders without control like this one.
BigTrev March 21, 2013 1:46 pm
Why such negativity from some of you?? It wasn't planned, it just happened and Nyakane did the best he could in the situation.
As anyone who has played lock or received from the kick-off will know, the prop merely shadows you and its up to you to get into position. He is your support for YOUR jump, it's not him who dictates it.
@ Citing Commisioner, you want to penalise players for putting their team mates in danger now..?
PS: Lighten up. This and Beasts was spectacular and nobody was hurt. Safe to say they are not doing it deliberately.
As anyone who has played lock or received from the kick-off will know, the prop merely shadows you and its up to you to get into position. He is your support for YOUR jump, it's not him who dictates it.
@ Citing Commisioner, you want to penalise players for putting their team mates in danger now..?
PS: Lighten up. This and Beasts was spectacular and nobody was hurt. Safe to say they are not doing it deliberately.
the truth March 21, 2013 6:16 pm
well actually you can already be penalised for putting your own player in danger. If a lifter drops a jumper at a line out, a penalty can be awarded to the opposition for dangerous/reckless play.
Jeroo March 21, 2013 4:09 pm
Hmmm I feel that the lifters are the cause (and solution) to these problems. Great strength no doubt but as @Guy says, also poor positioning.
browner March 21, 2013 4:45 pm
Question, can anyone explain why 'catchers' are allowed to be lifted off the ground and held in the air [and get protection ] in normal play?
I'm not convinced that LAW allows such protection ?
I'm not convinced that LAW allows such protection ?
DrG March 22, 2013 2:28 pm
I can't explain in a technical law term which is what you're probably after, however one thing I haven't seen in a long time is 2 players lifting a catcher, whether this is just purely coincidence or something else:
Imagine 3 players, 2 lifters 1 jumper, the first lifter is closest to the opposition posts, then the jumper, then the last lifter is closest to his own posts... Now as soon as the jumper catches the ball wouldn't the first lifter now be in an offside position/block, in the same way that a player can be "accidentally offside" when his team mate runs into him. So maybe 1 lifter BEHIND the jumper is like a player binding onto another one to pick and go in a ruck situation, and perhaps there is no direct law that says when a player can or cannot bind onto another, therefore as I said this is just simply a case of taking into account 2 factors neither of which appear to be "illegal" in their separate occurrences:
1st - The jumper is in the air, therefore cannot be touched - according to the laws.
2nd - The support player is bound on behind player (in this case a jumper) for whatever reason he sees fit..
A bit muddled but hopefully you'll get what I mean..
Imagine 3 players, 2 lifters 1 jumper, the first lifter is closest to the opposition posts, then the jumper, then the last lifter is closest to his own posts... Now as soon as the jumper catches the ball wouldn't the first lifter now be in an offside position/block, in the same way that a player can be "accidentally offside" when his team mate runs into him. So maybe 1 lifter BEHIND the jumper is like a player binding onto another one to pick and go in a ruck situation, and perhaps there is no direct law that says when a player can or cannot bind onto another, therefore as I said this is just simply a case of taking into account 2 factors neither of which appear to be "illegal" in their separate occurrences:
1st - The jumper is in the air, therefore cannot be touched - according to the laws.
2nd - The support player is bound on behind player (in this case a jumper) for whatever reason he sees fit..
A bit muddled but hopefully you'll get what I mean..
browner March 21, 2013 7:31 pm
If Nyakane had dropped him , and Uys landed on his head, then presumably Nyakane would have been Yellow carded under Law 10.4.[j]
Lifting a player from the ground & dropping .........
Maybe the 1st RED card in history without an opponent being involved ! & with a brilliant kicker maybe 3pts as well !
LOL
Lifting a player from the ground & dropping .........
Maybe the 1st RED card in history without an opponent being involved ! & with a brilliant kicker maybe 3pts as well !
LOL
Pro player March 22, 2013 2:11 pm
Some people are ridculious on here , you must be the people who sit in front of the tv trying to be the ref and not actualy play the game. Put your self in the locks shoes, i dont think he wants to catch the ball standingwith some 115 kg beast smashing him when hes standing still, kick offs these days are getting better and better and the only way to protect the ball Nd player is to lift him. Now if some oposition player wants to contest for the ball at takes the lock, it will be looked at as Taking player out when hes in air. Another question is do all the fuds on her complaiing want rugby to wnd up like american football ? Pads protection ect i believe rugby is a contact sport when players go on the pitch are looking to smash people and win matchs and to be honest dont really care what happens as long as they have the ball . Try playing it someday !
DrG March 22, 2013 2:40 pm
You'd think a "pro player" would understand tongue in cheek comments and the hypocrisies that people are merely pointing out.
Take a player past the horizontal so say 181 degrees when he hits the ground and you could be looking at a red card.
Do this and perhaps drop your player at the pinnacle of the situation; so he goes head first into the ground like a dart, and there are no sanctions (probably).
See whats wrong with this picture? Maybe you should get back onto your games console and set the difficulty to "rookie player", you might find you have a little more luck understanding..
Take a player past the horizontal so say 181 degrees when he hits the ground and you could be looking at a red card.
Do this and perhaps drop your player at the pinnacle of the situation; so he goes head first into the ground like a dart, and there are no sanctions (probably).
See whats wrong with this picture? Maybe you should get back onto your games console and set the difficulty to "rookie player", you might find you have a little more luck understanding..
Pro player March 22, 2013 3:10 pm
Bro i was playing in the match :-) so tell me something DrG has it happend to a player yet in proffesional or club rugby. If you go and watch some training through the week. You will see that teams are always practicing kickoffs, lifting controlling the player in the air. Now if trevor thought something dangerious was going to happen then he wouldnt lift . If something happend like the (players head going into the ground like a dart) then it was a mistake but there should be any new rules on liftingg the player, cards , bans. We love the sport because of the thrills we get when playing it and watching it. So why change it when the players know there at risk. On a day to day basis.
DrG March 22, 2013 10:13 pm
wow, you were in the match, you should do an interview with RD, you know and exclusive with a pro player it would be really interesting to see what you guys enjoy about this site. With all the cheap webcams etc these days I'm sure you could easily do a Q and A thing, or we could all ask questions and then you could do a video reply to them all. That would be great.
Get in contact with RD pro player..
Get in contact with RD pro player..
browner March 23, 2013 12:27 am
Interesting, if the argument if that players are now getting too tough too big too strong & too fast .....& therefore players who used to catch the ball and get hit need to be protected by being lifted into the air ?
, then lets apply a similar protection to the ball carrier in every tackle situation......?
proposal....from now on any player carrying the ball can only be tackled by small players, unless a big player can prove he's using only 50% of his power/speed.
there, thats parity established.
hey..i've got an idea pro player ....... ball carrier jumps up before the tackler arrives , & is carried forwward by his teammates, who are either side of him, but not in front......no-one can tackle any of them TRY TIME !
thumbs up?
, then lets apply a similar protection to the ball carrier in every tackle situation......?
proposal....from now on any player carrying the ball can only be tackled by small players, unless a big player can prove he's using only 50% of his power/speed.
there, thats parity established.
hey..i've got an idea pro player ....... ball carrier jumps up before the tackler arrives , & is carried forwward by his teammates, who are either side of him, but not in front......no-one can tackle any of them TRY TIME !
thumbs up?
Guy March 23, 2013 4:02 pm
Or use players in front of the ball carrier to block defenders.
Oh wait, that sport allready exists.........
Oh wait, that sport allready exists.........
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