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Wednesday, October 16, 2013

Wilkinson, Giteau and Armitage combine for classic Toulon try vs Glasgow

Highlights from Toulon vs Glasgow Warriors at the Stade Felix Mayol

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Posted at 1:06 pm | 24 comments

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Murina October 16, 2013 2:54 pm

Appalling commentary failing to do justice to a magnificent try. Wilkinson was superb in collection, running into space, passing and then linking, not to forget the conversion. You can see he is slower than he was, but who cares when he has such a wide range of skills? Giteau's was a small but beautiful contribution and Armitage could hardly have failed from then on in.

I love the Top14 and what's not to like about Toulon, but to retain the title this year will be a bigger achievement than to have won it in the first place. Great clip.

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redwan_ October 16, 2013 3:07 pm

I agree, yes it was English players who started and finished the try, but a monkey could have done what Armitage did. The skill was provided by Wilkinson and the beautiful cut and offload from Giteau. English commentary is usually dire, and usually I find myself using the alternative commentary when I watch on the BBC or if its Sky, I just mute them.

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stroudos October 17, 2013 1:59 am

Sadly not unusual for the English commentary, but I'm surprised at RugbyDump not even mentioning Mermoz's contributions (plural) to this try!?! Played a pretty crucial role I would say!

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Rugbydump October 17, 2013 7:52 am

Fair enough - the title was getting a bit long, but he deserved a mention. Great try all round

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Ottawa Rugger October 16, 2013 3:38 pm

Everyone involved in that try ought to take a bow!

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Guest October 16, 2013 4:04 pm

The highlights are missing two of the Glasgow tries, all of which were well taken. Would be good if you could dig those up. They show the gulf between the Top 14 and the Pro 12 isn't as large as the first half suggested.

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Reality October 16, 2013 4:30 pm

Gulf? I'd say the Pro 12 is at least on equal footing with the Top 14. Aside from Toulouse and three or four mercenary-heavy teams, most of the Top 14 teams are quite poor.

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Guest October 16, 2013 4:51 pm

No I agree. But I feel like the french and English would disagree for the most part.

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UpTheLowEnd October 16, 2013 10:36 pm

I see it as a fair amount of quality overlap between the three competitions to be honest. Given that historically the biggest heavy weights of the european competition in the professional era have been french, irish and english respectively.

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Murina October 16, 2013 11:46 pm

Can't possibly judge until the teams actually play against each other, which is why the Heineken Cup is so important. I'm not against a new competition, but to not have a cup competition which pits the Irish, French, English, Scottish and Welsh would be a tragedy. Otherwise, we're back to Southern vs Northern Hemisphere talk fests, based on an occasional tour game and a World Cup every four years....

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finedisregard October 16, 2013 11:40 pm

Gentlemen, very soon all rugby will look like this. Every test player will find a contract that best suits them personally. Players' clubs will have nothing to do with their home countries. Every strong club side will be an international all star team, much like the EPL.

We'll eventually see a Champions League. It will be a big deal and showcase some incredible rugby that will surpass 5 Nations and eventually Ranfurly Shield, and Currie Cup level play. It will be comprised of 100% mercenaries.

SH teams holding caps over the head of players to keep them home will not last past the next WC. Test rugby will diminish in import and club rugby will be the future.

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stroudos October 17, 2013 1:50 am

A depressing prognosis but hard to disagree.

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Kiwi In Germany October 17, 2013 5:02 pm

The idea of a champions league (I Guess you mean best club sides from around the world competing?) is a good one in theory but bad in practice due to travel time. This I guess could be circumvented by a rotational venue (One year Great Britain, then SA, NZ etc..), but then it still costs a lot to put these things on. I remain skeptical such a Champions league will exist in the next 50 years. Due to the amount of separate interests involved in such a scheme. Also based on the strength of the SANZAR unions, their respective TV rights and sponsorship obligations.

Besides I much prefer the Super 15.

It would be interesting to have a club world cup so to speak every 4 years or so...

Also I think you are a bit out of date. There is no 5 Nations anymore. The Ranfurly shield isn't a competition just an important tradition involved inside the ITM Cup competition.

In terms of SH teams holding caps...??? Not a 100% sure what you mean but players who want to be picked for the AB's have to play for a NZ club. They have to be committed to NZ rugby. If they feel they have a chance of making the AB's they wouldn't leave as wearing the Black jersey is the pinnacle of success for Rugby in NZ. Young boys dream of putting it on like they dream of being superman. I would say this is similar in SA as well (not sure). I think this point of difference. Wanting to be part of the legend is what makes NZ rugby teams as good as they are. Nobody wants to be part of the AB's team that becomes second rate.

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finedisregard October 19, 2013 12:27 am

The Ranfurly Shield is still the prize after New Zealand sold their jersey and domestic competition to ITM, right? It's still the NPC to me.

European clubs have more money than the NZRFU/SANZAR, the best players in the world will want to be the best compensated.

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Kiwi In Germany October 19, 2013 5:47 am

I disagree. The players know where they can make money. If it were only about the money it would already be as you say. Maybe thats the way it is where your from... But for Kiwis if you wear the black jersey you have automatic rockstar status. You become part of the legend. Maybe this idea is hard for you to fully comprehend but it is non the less the strongest influence on where a player chooses to play in NZ. Which is why you see only retiring players or unselected players going overseas for a quick buck. Quite a few of which come back home because playing rugby in another country is no where near as satisfying as playing in NZ. Rugby in NZ is almost like cricket in India.

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DrG October 19, 2013 12:48 pm

People can't live on "rockstar status"... they need rockstar cash too... hence why so many choose to head North and into the French teams as the salaries are so much higher...

Look at it this way: You start school, you're an amazing player, you get noticed, you end up playing for Baby NZ's.. if you play so well you end up in the NZ first team aged 21 then great you're sorted, play a few years then go on a pilgrimage abroad to make some cash. But if you aren't picked for the All Blacks straight away, then what? How long do you fight? Of course giving up is never right, but perhaps cutting your losses whilst you're still great enough to make a fortune at club level might not be a bad thing.

As for the comment regarding a Champions league thing, you mention it not working due to travel time, this wouldn't be the case, because it would most likely all be in the Northern Hemisphere, where all the French teams are paying fortunes...

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MattyJ October 16, 2013 11:43 pm

siiiick try but obvs it was wilkinson and giteau that made that try not that mong armitage, who's try-scoring position anyone could have replicated (likely with a better haircut)

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stroudos October 17, 2013 2:07 am

And Mermoz, with two important contributions - not sure why he's not mentioned in dispatches?

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stroudos October 17, 2013 2:05 am

Wonderful stuff, slightly unusual to see Wilkinson bossing an aerial contest like that!

Ordinarily hate watching his long drawn-out kicking set-up. But having missed 5 out of 5 conversion attempts myself (from similar positions to be fair) last weekend, maybe I ought to pay more attention....

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flanker2712 October 17, 2013 1:31 pm

Don't mean to take away from a great take on the run from Wilkinson, but calling it an "aerial contest" is being kind to the Glasgow player!

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Canadian content October 17, 2013 2:13 am

What about the take by Jonno! Brilliant! That try was all Jonny and giteau, everyone else showed good but expected skills

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Deelman October 18, 2013 3:09 am

I am not an anti-Armitage guy (kind of missed the controversy) but he only had one thing to do and almost... almost screwed that up with his swan dive. Considering the perpendicular angle of the tackler's line, he must've known the tackle was going to be a hard one, yet he risked it with his dive and almost had the ball dislodged.
If you're going to do the swan lake over the white wash, at least earn it with some magic beforehand (of course this does not apply to props, who are always welcome to put on their swan wings and tiaras).
And for godsake don't be a tit and do it when a defender is almost on top of you.
Maybe that is just me.

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bib160 October 18, 2013 10:38 am

It is a beautifull try indeed... However the switch between Giteau and mermoz is completetly useless and almost counterproductive. there is and 3vs2 on the outside that, if played correctly was an easy try.
Giteau is an oustanding player so he can get the offload that keeps the momentum going. As often in toulon great individual technique compensate the lack of collective strategy.

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Clubman October 20, 2013 7:33 pm

There seems to be some confusion between participating teams in the Heineken Cup and 'club' teams. Club teams are for the most part run by and played by volunteers who do it for the love of the game. 'Club' teams are pretty much without exception, the source of every player in the Heineken Cup. I love the Heineken Cup. I love it all the more when I see a player who I maybe first saw as an under 12 or under 14 playing in my local provincial league. Someone who I may have coached or helped to fill out his registration form.
'Clubs' seem to have been forgotten in the debates about rugby these days. If the game is to have a future, somebody should start to remember them and the sooner the better.

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