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Tuesday, October 15, 2013

Massive 30-man fight in Georgia's top league in Tbilissi

This wild brawl took place in Georgia's top league recently when Ilia Uni Jikebi and Lelo met in Tbilissi. It started with a little push and shove, but soon every player from both sides was involved, with it spilling over to the sidelines, where it's possible others joined in.

Ugly scenes and hopefully not something we see again any time soon. Amongst all the chaos, there was a big tackle though, so that's kind of rugby, right? Who knows where the ball was though.

The quality of the video isn't amazing so if anyone knows of a better quality version, or has more info on the outcome or repercussions, get in touch and we'll get it posted.

Posted at 12:54 pm | 38 comments

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Pierre October 15, 2013 4:35 pm

I love rugby and all aspects of this great game that I love. I fully understand that this is an physical game and temper do flair but in this level of violence should be dealt with severely. I like the occasional punch up and handbag been thrown but if I had anything to do with this clubs management or coaching staff, none of these players will ever play for my team again.

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windeeno October 16, 2013 3:38 am

Such wretched behavior! It's the type of thing that perpetuates the stigma of what is a sport of excellence. The sheer strength and athleticism of the games are majestic. The faces of the warriors are visible...it smacks of the arena in our collective ancient memory. Something about is primal...which unfortunately invites the type of over-boiling passion (from deep cultural conflict just under the surface) depicted. I feel bad for any children watching. Those grown men should be ashamed of setting such a poor example. The pitch should be for war, but there should be a limit to respect the game. On the other hand, could it be better to froth it up on the pitch, then leave it there...letting the contest of wills under somewhat controlled circumstances, rather than to take up arms and rip apart communities (again)?

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DrG October 16, 2013 12:00 pm

..well I thought it was a damn good punch up..

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Forever-UUC-Rugby October 15, 2013 7:44 pm

Sort that one out ref lol

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Yellow card October 15, 2013 7:52 pm

The penalty was awarded to the yellow team and each team received a yellow card. Unbelievably that was all.

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DanKnapp October 15, 2013 8:36 pm

Where the hell would you even start? Poor ref.

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Rich October 15, 2013 7:57 pm

I love rugbydump and check it regularly, but does it really need to publicise this kind of thuggish behaviour? We have all experienced at some stage the kind of idiots that are just out to throw their weight around, not sure if it is really compelling viewing for a rugby website though? This kind if nonsense needs to be ignored, it ruins far too many a game at amateur level.

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DrG October 16, 2013 12:02 pm

It is something that happened during a rugby game. Does RD need to publicise kicks gone wrong? De Villiers pushing an Argie into a moat and holding him by his ankle so he doesn't crack his head? Nick Easter's catch fail attempt? other "friday funnies"? No, they don't, but they're all interesting things that happened in the game we love..

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The guest who was th October 15, 2013 9:00 pm

Guys, yes this is ugly, i agree, but i was there at that game and at the end both teams were huging at the coridore. Anything can happen. Such things should not be happening but it sorts out and ends at the pitch and nothing contineus beyond.

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Sean Annigans October 15, 2013 9:26 pm

I have to strongly disagree, if these thugs have a problem with each other, and it seems to be something other than what happened during the match, then i have no problem with them sorting it out before or after the game, in some parking lot, prison cell or anywhere as long as they don't affect others or in this case drag the game and name of rugby through the shit!!

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Jamel October 15, 2013 11:10 pm

You are terribly mistaken :)
They don't really have problem with each other, it was exactly "what happened during the match" and it was terrible refereeing.
So you sir are wrong, while "guest" is right :)

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stroudos October 16, 2013 9:12 am

But it doesn't seem to be something other than what happened during the match. this fight was sparked by an over-reaction by red #1 to a shove from yellow #23, itself a result of mistaken identity. It all escalated to a level most of us would agree is unacceptable. But as The guest points out, in classic rugby style it's all done and dusted at the final whistle.

A problem I see all the time in amateur football (soccer) is that the disagreements on the pitch have a tendency to spill over to "real-life", with people threatening each other in the clubhouse and car park. This is my opinion is worse - at the end of the day it is just a game. To date I've never seen these clubhouse/carpark disagreements happen in rugby.

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DrG October 16, 2013 12:10 pm

Totally agree with Stroudos and The Guest here, no idea where a lot of you are getting your information about communities being destroyed, disagreements before the matches etc etc???

Excuse my language but to put it bluntly, it was a fucking punch up guys.... get over it. Not pretty, but would you rather bury your heads and pretend they don't exist. Lets face it, you walk onto the pitch every Saturday, you have no idea whether some clown might start swinging at you, it wouldn't be nice but don't pretend it couldn't happen. What you're all hinting at is a "clean rugby" where mummy won't be afraid to let her little boy join in because it is a "nice, gentle sport"...

I'm not saying I'd enjoy any of these punches coming my way, but at least I'm aware that things CAN flair up.

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matt October 15, 2013 11:40 pm

Broken bones and concussions continue beyond the game, which is fair enough if they were caused legitimately, but this is silly.

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DrG October 16, 2013 12:11 pm

Who broke some bones?

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matt October 17, 2013 9:44 am

I don't know, but there must have been a few in there, hands arent made for punching, my point was that saying that none of it continued beyond the game is stupid, because the consequences often do. Great fight though

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stroudos October 17, 2013 3:47 pm

"saying that none of it continued beyond the game is stupid"
What, even if none of it continued beyond the game?

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ex player October 15, 2013 9:47 pm

Ref should have abandoned the game and let the Georgian Rugby Union punish both teams accordingly. They have video evidence after all...

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MR October 15, 2013 10:26 pm

Just pointing out that it seems a Georgian habbit. Does anyone remember the fight they started against Belgium?
http://www.rugbydump.com/2013/02/2986/big-fight-between-belgium-and-georgia-in-rugby-world-cup-qualifier

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McHiels October 16, 2013 11:27 am

Hi,
Indeed that was my first reaction aswell, it seems that not only the Georgian national team is behaving as thugs but also their local teams. I believe a strong action from the IRB should be taken. This is not the first time and either will it be the last.

Cheers

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stroudos October 16, 2013 1:36 pm

I've got a better example - the much-celebrated and admired "99 call" from the 1974 Lions tour. I suppose the game's changed a lot since then...

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finedisregard October 15, 2013 10:35 pm

RD, I think this is noteworthy. Please continue to post stuff like this and any crazy or unusual rugby clips you find from all over the world. Highlights are great but lowlights are interesting too. Thanks!

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Raf October 15, 2013 10:39 pm

Seen that before... That's Georgie alrighdie... Lots of muscle, few brains

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MunsterFan October 15, 2013 10:50 pm

Ive NEVER seen an actual score from a club game, KNACKERS all of them

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Seanydoyle October 15, 2013 11:03 pm

I was at the game also.... and made a video of the last 50 seconds.... here it is in HD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XAMcNs4SGQ

and although both teams were 'hugging' at the end I had 2 major problems with this:

1. Depite the fact most of the players on the park were throwing punches, which should be an instant red card, there was only 2 yellow cards shown!?!?

2. There was a large number of children at the game and it doesnt set a good example of what rugby is about to these kids!

However, apart from that it was a good game, played in good spirit apart from the brawl and the Georgian people are great craic and excellent hosts!

Just think they need to get stricter on the teams, ban players and dock points off the clubs and then it wouldn't happen!

View Video

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macmurchu October 16, 2013 1:24 pm

Ha better than the original! What brought you to that game in the first place?

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DrG October 16, 2013 12:05 am

Good job the referee had his whistle to blow...

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Alex October 16, 2013 12:29 am

What you should take away from this is that at the end you see footage of one of the players trying to help a player on the other team who is in obvious pain. there is a brotherhood that exists between rugby players. its nice to know that at least one person on the field recognized that

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flanker2712 October 17, 2013 1:05 pm

Can you point out which video and at what time? I don't see any brotherhood in either video!

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Alex October 17, 2013 11:50 pm

Yeah, I thought at 1:08 it was one of the players in yellow trying to help one of the players in red... turns out to be the trainer, in a yellow shirt. my mistake.

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cheyanqui October 16, 2013 1:11 am

in my country there is problem...

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Stripe October 16, 2013 2:08 am

Somebody had a crack.... :|

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stroudos October 16, 2013 9:03 am

Judging from the comments above, it looks like this could be an unpopular view, but I quite enjoyed that!

RD you mention there were two yellows, but not who for. Personally I'd have carded red #1 and yellow #23 and let the rest of it go.

Bit of mistaken identity at the start where yellow 23 is bundled over by a red player. yellow 23 assumes it's red 1 as he's closest when he gets up. Bit of a shove as he goes past but nothing in it. Red 1 then goes mental and starts the whole thing off. His reaction to yellow 23 was totally disproportionate and I was actually quite pleased to see yellow 23 deck him later on, (textbook punch around 0:40), especially as even that still seemed to be in self-defence.

Other than that, beautiful tackle on him (Y23) just after that punch.

Oh and there's a lifting tackle at 0:44 - I'd probably have just had a word, but if we're applying proper IRB directives that's a yellow too......

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Bigiainie October 16, 2013 12:58 pm

We saw it live in the stadium. Mostly handbags but it was amazing that noone received a red card. Afterwards the Warsaw Old Codgers beat Tbilisi Devebi 12-10 BTW :)

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Rob October 16, 2013 2:40 pm

I thought the iRB directive for this is Blow The Whistle, Blow The Whistle, Blow The Whistle. Red for the first punch, Red for the last punch. It doesn't look like the Ref is doing much other than trying to stay out of the way.
Hardly a shock that a #9 gets all upset when he gets scragged.
#1 went nuts because he didn't deserve the shove...

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ali October 17, 2013 12:50 pm

this is just thuggery ive seen some scraps on the field before but this is beyond a scrap its a free for all and whoever hit the giy from the back and injured him should b banned for the rest of the season and both teams should have some sort of punishment point deduction or something utterly disgraceful

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