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Saturday, November 30, 2013

George North and Richard Hibbard huge hits in lead up to Israel Folau try

Wales put up a good fight but went down 30-26 to the Wallabies in Cardiff earlier today in one of the best games of the season. The contest featured some incredibly physical confrontations and collisions from both sides. Here's a look at the two biggest hits.

We'll get longer highlights posted tomorrow but for now here is a look at the Israel Folau try that featured two huge hits, one big bump and a bit of afters too.

First George North, who was on top form for Wales again, came in and blindsided Adam Ashley-Cooper with a smashing tackle, then seconds later it was hard working hooker Richard Hibbard that did the same to Wallaby skipper Ben Mowen just meters from the tryline.

Australia stayed on task and despite the 'offensive defence' from Wales, fullback Folau bumped off aggressive as always Mike Phillips to score a very well taken try.

For fans of the sport, that passage of play had so much to enjoy, and while the push and shove afterwards wasn't great, it was good to see the intensity that both sides brought to the contest.

What did you think of the match, and these hits? As mentioned, more highlights from this game as well as the Dubai 7's, Barbarians match and more, will be posted soon.

Posted at 8:44 pm | 50 comments

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cymbrogi November 30, 2013 9:03 pm

If Quade Cooper got sin binned for preventing a try scoring opportunity as the ref deemed it..then why wasn't North's try awarded as a penalty try that would have seen the Welsh win it!

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Chris November 30, 2013 10:26 pm

Probably because he judged it to be a knock-on prior to the tackle, rather than the other way round. Very fine margins, it was an incredibly difficult game of fast flowing rugby to ref but I thought he did a great job.

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Canadian content December 01, 2013 3:59 am

Because a try was never on. Crap call, penalty at most

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Schultz November 30, 2013 9:19 pm

Yep, thought that that call was one of his worst. He was good up towards the end of the 2nd half. Then it all went a bit wrong.
Cooper's sin binning was a joke, as the commentators said, a penelty at most.

Some of the play acting from Phillips was disgraceful, the soccar comment from the commentators were brilliant.

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Chris November 30, 2013 10:22 pm

There was a bit going between Phillips and Cooper all game and Cooper came out the winner. I seem to remember Phillips standing on Coopers hand in a ruck, then the afters from the try then the tongue out after sending Cooper back in the tackle (after which Phillips actually lost some momentum and ground).

Phillips is a superb player, sometimes I love his fighting mentality but his play acting and afters are just annoying when he's actually losing.

George North didn't deserve to be on a losing side, but Australia deserved to win.

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Schultz November 30, 2013 10:46 pm

I agree with North, he had a great game.

As for Phillips, sure he has an aggressive game and is tough and all, but he seems to feel that he has to prove this at every breakdown or stoppage and its gets boring very quickly.
I always think that if you are going to get in someones face like he does in games, do it at the start and make sure they never come back for seconds..... he failed on all counts

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browner December 02, 2013 12:13 am

I don't agree that George North had a great game.......... Yes no doubt going forward he is impressive, but how many times does he get drawn in ....ie not trusting his inside teammate to make their tackle ..... Australia ran around him a number of times ..... three try's cost? to my reckoning - Yes !

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Canadian content December 01, 2013 4:00 am

I'm sick of Phillips he seems more interested in street fights than rugby.

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dave December 01, 2013 4:22 am

lol, did you see one of the aussie's try to give him a hug, but he got pushed away by a tantrum throwing phillips

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AG November 30, 2013 11:44 pm

Wayne Barnes isnt one to leave his whistle at home, not the first time he has overreacted in making a decision and certainly wont be the last

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davide November 30, 2013 9:19 pm

this is rugby.

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knockon November 30, 2013 9:41 pm

Because for a penalty try to be awarded the ref has to be in "no doubt" a try would've occurred. North was going towards 3 possible tacklers when the ref blew. So, a definite try didn't occur. Great game, unlucky Wales.

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browner December 02, 2013 12:19 am

No ! ..... Mr Knockon

10.2 Unfair play

A penalty try must be awarded if the offence prevents a try that would probably otherwise have been scored.

'Probably otherwise ' is a lower test than "in no doubt"

If you're going to quote...... quote accurately kind sir.

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alec November 30, 2013 9:41 pm

Because the ball went forward off scott williams hand when he was tackled.
Aussie backs were outstanding Playing front foot rugby with Genia and copper running the show.

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rugbyaddict87 November 30, 2013 10:05 pm

That is why I play rugby. Putting your body on the line for your team mates. What passion

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drisky November 30, 2013 10:22 pm

Because the ball was knocked forward in the early tackle..

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AH93 November 30, 2013 10:41 pm

cooper's sin binning was necessary, the australians had been warned 4 previous penalties before hand that the next would result in a binning. The referee was poor all game, indecisive and seemed lacking in any confidence as regularily seen to penalise the one of the big southern hemisphere teams.

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DrG November 30, 2013 11:49 pm

Sadly I only saw the last 10 mins of this game, but the replays of QC's passing, running etc was brilliant! He is an awesome player to watch, seems like he really has got his head sorted (as others said in the past it was surprising he wasn't one of the lads that went out drinking and got banned!).

As for Phillips, I love his tenacity and aggressiveness, but sometimes I just wish he'd play the fooking game... this video is almost testament, he gets bumped then somehow he's having a fight at the end... perhaps it's not as easy to draw as straight a connection as he was fighting due to being embarrassed, but it seems that way.

The final moment of play of the game (not this video), why kick???? I was so shocked, I get that they were trying to be clever, but I'm sure Cuthbert (had he not stepped out) needed to beat at least 2 more players ?!?!

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DrG November 30, 2013 11:50 pm

Forgot to say congratulations to Australia, really enjoyed the scenes at the end, trading shirts, chatting, QC's interview, it all just looked like how rugby should be!

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jack December 02, 2013 9:49 pm

When I seen the trading of shirts at the end of the game I thought that's when you know it's been a good game, you never see that anymore. We'll have the aussies soon though!

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Canadian content December 01, 2013 4:03 am

Agreed on all counts. Wales didn't trust themselves like the all blacks did last week.

FOOKING awesome game though. Enjoyed as much as Ireland nz

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Schultz November 30, 2013 11:55 pm

I forgot to mention earlier, but Australia staying out at half time is a really nice change, it does seem to help too as they haven't lost focus after the break in the last few games.

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dave December 01, 2013 4:24 am

best game of the autumn, coming from someone who doesn't care much for either side

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45678 December 01, 2013 10:00 am

Take north out of this welsh team and they become a distinctly average side. I don't know how they managed to stay in the game. Australia were by far the better side

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WelshOsprey December 01, 2013 10:25 am

Marshall was great in the commentary box again, hope he makes an appearance for the six nations.
The way Barnes made the call for the Aussie try instead of listening to the TMO was bullshit.

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jeppy89 December 01, 2013 11:38 am

Why? With the new rules barnes sees everything the 4th official does and is the no:1 match official on tge say, his call to make. Thats gonna start happening a lot more. In regards to the pass, stupid hands going vackwards part of the rule.... marginal hard call, benifit to the attacking team.

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paimoe December 01, 2013 12:47 pm

If one refereeing decision goes against Wales, and they lose by less than a try, Gatland will complain. See: non-yellow card against Carter v Wales 2009/10, and RWC semi

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Phil mc avity December 01, 2013 12:16 pm

Why doesn't rugbydump ever post videos of Ashton tackling like this?
Bazinga

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hmm December 01, 2013 2:07 pm

http://prem0.hiboox.com/images/4813/diapoe69d6b8908a55571c7583a2dd21a278c.gif
not sure how the ref missed this. Wales should have been down to 14 men mid first half

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Ottawa Rugger December 01, 2013 4:25 pm

Man, Phillips is such scum. Any word on possible forthcoming citations?

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browner December 02, 2013 12:25 am

Cite him someone !!

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AndyBoy December 02, 2013 10:28 pm

Phillips is a nasty individual - case for a citing?

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DrG December 04, 2013 12:20 am

Heard reports that Cooper gave him a nibble on the calf for that, hard to see if it actually happened but really looks that way.

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Owen December 01, 2013 4:12 pm

Phillips completely lost it during the game and was focussing more on being physical than actually playing as a 9, the Welsh game sped up much more when Rhodri Williams came on. Really hope Phillips can control himself for the 6n else I would rather have Lloyd or Rhodri Williams starting, even Richie Rees if you are looking for short term cover.

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Ronan December 01, 2013 7:20 pm

cocky welsh got brought back down to earth by the ozzies......

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AJ_Capote December 01, 2013 7:44 pm

Am I the only one who thinks Phillips is HUGELY overrated? His delivery is slow, he often crabs (in a way that many English scrum-halfs have been rightly criticised for), he seems to dawdle and spend more time whining at the ref than getting the ball away, gets wound up way too easily, tries to run way too often thinking because he's big he'll barrell through, gets stuck in rucks, and lashes out petulantly way too often.

I would be furious if he was an England player and England kept picking him - I know Gatland has his favourites and sticks by them (even on Lions tours), but recently Wales have been better with other scrumhalves on the park. Much like how Lee Dickson has been good for England lately because he does the basics well and keeps it simple, I think Wales need someone just to get the ball away quickly. Phillips is too hung up on his own hype.

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DrG December 02, 2013 3:47 am

Yup, seaside creatures... or an STD, your choice...

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DanKnapp December 02, 2013 10:01 am

We get to choose? When did I miss that? Last time I go to a rock pool without protection I was infested for weeks.

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AJ_Capote December 02, 2013 1:56 pm

Hahaha. I should've explained that. Crabbing as in shuttling sideways across the pitch before making a pass. Danny Care was infamous for it for a while, but appears to not do it so much now.

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Abs7 December 05, 2013 7:56 pm

He's been delivering slow for years, I think I've seen faster service from Yodel. On a lighter note the lad who came on Rhodri Williams, looked slick, remember watching him throughout his drover days and he looks like he has something about him..

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Phil mc avity December 01, 2013 11:15 pm

"Crabs"; Meaning he carries the ball before passing? Which i agree with, Care does it, it screws up your attack because the defence is up before the 10 even gets the ball.

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browner December 02, 2013 12:28 am

It'sanother tactic, keeps the guards occupied & guessing....the dummy & cut option is available & actually buys time for outside backs ......... fly halfs should align deeper & exploit the extra space created....so no, you're not correct IMO.

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stroudos December 02, 2013 7:49 am

It's a good option to have in the weaponry, but from my observation 9 times out of 10 crabbing scrumhalves just waste valuable time and space.

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katman December 02, 2013 7:20 am

That tackle by Hibbard was fantastic. Mowen's a big boy, and he met him at speed, head on. There's no place to hide in a hit like that.

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stroudos December 02, 2013 7:47 am

Say what you like about Justin Marshall, I fucking love the way he describes these tackles on the replay at the end. "BOOFAAH!!" a particular highlight and a word I'll be making more use of from now on.

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DanKnapp December 02, 2013 10:02 am

They need to have him on every 6N game. Brian Moore can sit in the corner and fume. In fact, Brian Moore should be an alternative commentary setting, entitled 'Misery'.

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Canadian content December 03, 2013 12:38 am

I'll show this video to the kids I coach on how to make a proper impact tackle in the case of North and Hibbards and then how not too with Phillips. In fairness to the whiny though large 9, neither Hibbard nor North were tackling as dynamic of a player. That being said, they both lined up their targets from the side, got their feet close to the ball carrier and hit then with great body position. Phillips on the other hand, had terrible body position and got a head clash and got knocked down.

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Canadian content December 03, 2013 12:39 am

I'll show this video to the kids I coach on how to make a proper impact tackle in the case of North and Hibbards and then how not too with Phillips. In fairness to the whiny though large 9, neither Hibbard nor North were tackling as dynamic of a player. That being said, they both lined up their targets from the side, got their feet close to the ball carrier and hit then with great body position. Phillips on the other hand, had terrible body position and got a head clash and got knocked down.

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