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Wednesday, May 21, 2014

Chris Ashton shouts 'push it' as Nick Evans attempts conversion kick

Saracens winger Chris Ashton escaped a misconduct charge earlier this week after he had attempted to put off Harlequins flyhalf Nick Evans during the Premiership Semi Final on Saturday. Ashton shouted 'push it' as Evans attemped a conversion kick.

Harlequins fullback Mike Brown scored a try just before halftime and as Evans was about to attempt the conversion, foot about to strike the ball, Ashton shouted at him in an attempt to distract him.

Evans slotted the kick and the players went into the tunnel for halftime, but it caused a bit of a melee and some England teammates took him aside to have a word. Whether it was it was frustration boiling over or just intended as banter, Quins weren't amused, and neither were the RFU.

They reviewed the incident and released a statement regarding respect being one of the core values of Rugby. The RFU Head of Discipline, Gerard McEvilly, spoke to Ashton about the incident, his responsibilities towards the game and his future conduct. A written warning was set to follow.

Had Evans missed the kick, he would more than likely have had another attempt at it and perhaps if it weren't halftime, referee Wayne Barnes may have even considered restarting with a penalty on the halfway line. As it was, Ashton appeared to get a telling off by some of the Quins players.

"Humility is up on the walls here and around the stadium, and honesty," said Harlequins coach Conor O'Shea post match. "It wasn't part of what you would expect someone to do, but we leave it. They are worthy finalists, worthy winners. Move on,"

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ollie May 21, 2014 11:32 am

Class player but also an idiot. Needs to stop acting like a footballer and respect his opposition.

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guest May 21, 2014 1:43 pm

class? have you ever seen ashton do anything other than finish of tries that are put on a plate for him, with his one dimensional celebration?

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dave May 22, 2014 4:13 am

yes I have seen him do other things
like create a try out of nothing against ulster in that first half quarter final
and have a hand in three tries against clermont
dont be hating because you lack the rugby intelligence to get on the end of a good play
let alone the speed to get there

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guest May 22, 2014 10:32 am

haha i take it your talking about the try created for him from a great lineout and great hands from the scrumhalf? when ulster were down to 14 men hahahaha @try from nothing' my ass

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taineuk July 28, 2014 7:09 pm

Ashton is a scrote and far from class. Why Lancaster persisted with the twat for so long when there are much better wingers in the premiership is beyond me.

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Rugby Lover 10 May 21, 2014 11:36 am

This kid is just plain stupid, him and Farrell are some of the most arrogant prick ever seen on the field, they are stupid, shame on them.

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stroudos May 21, 2014 12:30 pm

Why do people always insist on dragging Owen Farrell into the debate whenever Chris Ashton does something retarded? Farrell had a bit of a tendency for petulant behaviour a while ago, (like when he was 19-20 years old FFS), but I haven't seen any arrogant, stupid or prickish behaviour from him in a long time.

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Chiropractor May 21, 2014 5:11 pm

Errr this was pretty stupid

I'll admit Ashton is worse, but they are both idiots.

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stroudos May 21, 2014 7:37 pm

Well, that's a cheap shot and dirty play, but I I wouldn't file it under stupid, arrogant or prickish...

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Rugby Lover 10 May 22, 2014 6:51 am

Well, he's been stupid last tournament vs France...

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Guest May 21, 2014 11:37 am

What a bell-piece

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cheyanqui May 21, 2014 11:39 am

Dear Mr. Ashton

classless cheating has no place in the game, especially if we didntt think of it first.

Please, next time you think to shout, pleae stick one of these red pills in your mouth, it might help keep you quiet.

Yours etc.


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Lockdown May 21, 2014 8:38 pm

Came here for this

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Guest May 21, 2014 11:55 am

I don't get why shouting is such a ''big'' offence, while running at full speed towards the kicker is no problem. Like that doesn't distract him at all...

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obroersma May 21, 2014 12:11 pm

It's called respect and good sportmanship...

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mark May 21, 2014 12:18 pm

Because one is allowed within the LAWS of the game and the other isn't . You're name isn't Chris, is it? ;-)

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Guest May 21, 2014 1:03 pm

Yeah that's true, but to me it's just weird that one is allowed and the other one provokes such a shitstorm of hate. Personally I also think it's stupid to run towards the kicker. That's also meant to distract him, it's not allowed to touch the ball or player so why don't we stop that too?

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finedisregard May 21, 2014 1:36 pm

You're allowed to block a conversion. I've seen it happen more than twice.

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Guest May 21, 2014 2:24 pm

And from what moment are the players allowed to charge? Because it's a typical Northern Hemisphere thing if you ask me, I watch nearly all supeRugby matches and it happens probably once in 20 conversions.

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Reality May 21, 2014 3:06 pm

Are you joking? You can charge down as soon as the kicker starts his run-up to the ball. As finedisregard said, it happens rarely, but it happens.

And it's not exactly tantamount to murder but if you stop caring about fair-play and respecting the other team then the sport gets pretty crap pretty quickly. I, like many others, like seeing gentlemanly play and not a bunch of w***ers who will stoop to any level in order to win. If the values of the game stop being cared about then why should anyone cared about the sport?

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Guest May 21, 2014 3:56 pm

First thing I would do them would be a fake run-up, then the charging players would stay halfway like a bunch of fools and have to walk back to the try line... Come on, running at the kicker is just as stupid as shouting and I hope I'll never do either one. Better get 2 guys between the posts who are allowed to catch the ball when it comes really low, that would be more fun because than the action happens only after the kick.

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FatProp May 21, 2014 5:31 pm

You can run at the kicker as soon as they make a movement towards the ball. If you done a fake run up you would still be moving towards the ball, they can just run up to you and pick up the ball. People only really run at players when it is an easy kick, if it is on the touch line then you don't normally bother as the kick is hard enough and it probably wont make a difference. Shouting at the player is not allowed and is against good sportsmanship

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Gonzoman May 21, 2014 5:36 pm

Dear guest: before attempting what you described in the above post, please allow me to save you from looking a proper twat next time you attempt a conversion.

Once the kicker starts his run up, players may charge; the players may continue to charge even if the kicker stops. The charging players can actually pick up the ball to prevent the kick, so while you're out there congratulating yourself on how clever you are some cheeky kick-charger will pinch the pill right off the tee (follow link for example).

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Guest May 21, 2014 8:00 pm

Thanks for pointing that out to me Gonzoman, Still nobody explained why shouting is against sportmanship but running isn't. The no-shouting rule is to give the kicker the possibility to focus on his kick to get the most out of it. Now if someone can tell me how running at the ball does not have the same effect as shouting, I'll be happy. I get why they steal the ball from O'Connor, the rule is that a penalty/conversion may take at most 1 minute. But whatever, I'll leave it here and stop the discussion.

P.s. ruggastink thanks for the judgemental comment towards a new rugby fan

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Canadian content May 21, 2014 9:42 pm

Dude you didn't represent yourself as a new fan but as someone who came from an informed point of view.

It could also be construed that you approached this situation like LO many new players to the game have done before you and many will after you.

You assumed that you better than those before you and somewhat cockily decided to run sideways since there was no defender to your left or right and by god, why wouldn't I run that way, despite what the veterans have told me. And like the fresh eager young player out to revolutionize the game you turns your hips and momentum sideways and got thoroughly driven backwards and planted unceremoniously.

But worry not! This game and this site welcomes newcomers as long as they are willing to get up again and keep fighting. Welcome to the game of rugby where if needed, you will be taught many lessons about respecting those who came before you.

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Reality May 21, 2014 10:36 pm

Guest, first of all one is against the laws and the others isn't, so that in itself shows why one is acceptable and the other isn't.

Secondly, charging the ball down gives the opposition team a fighting chance first of all to actually charge the ball down, and secondly to put pressure on the opposition kicker. Shouting at him doesn't give your team a chance to charge it down or put pressure on the kicker, it's just a way of distracting the kicker in the moment he's taking the kick, which I think everywhere in the western world (and beyond) is considered unsporting.

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_thepundit July 30, 2014 2:24 am

How can I put it? Shouting makes you look like a numb nut, and running, it tests your athletic abilities, not being a lazy bastard, well, like the payer in question. Rather look like a fool trying to block the conversion than showing your disrespect towards a great game.

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ruggastink May 21, 2014 5:37 pm

You obviously don't know too much about the game do you Guest.

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taineuk July 28, 2014 7:06 pm

Bro, if you don't know the rules, why comment on them?

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joe May 21, 2014 1:47 pm

while taking a kick the kickers eyes are completely focused on the ball so they're not going to see people running at them whereas a shout in an otherwise completely silent stadium is obviously going to be more off putting. also chasing down a conversion is allowed so players might get a block in not to put off the kicker.

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jools May 21, 2014 12:08 pm

...and i'm assuming that RD will now post Danny Care calling for a pass from Billy V in the same match? We wouldn't want double standards now would we?

Yes, Ashton is a knob, every team has one. Some have two.

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cheyanqui May 21, 2014 12:21 pm

Danny Care and Chris Ashton being pests? Well I never

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DanKnapp May 22, 2014 5:05 am

Dear God, I'm worried I'm about to go there, but in Association Football (as I believe the devotees of the game call it) you commit a professional foul for shouting 'mine' without shouting your name...

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taineuk July 28, 2014 7:05 pm

Dumb comparison really as you're allowed to call for a pass from the opposition, where as, you're not allowed to yell at an opposing place kicker. BIG difference.

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Mallows79 May 21, 2014 12:17 pm

Sorry to the rest of the world about this dick.Most of us English don't like him anyway. Defensively he is a massive liability despite his league background and far too cocky and as for the ponse like try celebrations , well that's why the soccer boys love him. Not in our sport thanks.
As soon as Yarde & Wade are full fit that's when we will see the last of this knob in a white shirt !
( He should think to himself , why don't people like me and why wasn't I selected for the Lions or England's 6 nations ????? - because you are a tw@." )

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Candles May 21, 2014 12:17 pm

What an idiot... It's like he doesn't want to play for England. Lancaster (rightly or wrongly) really does not look kindly on behaviour like that and actually it is well within the referees authority to penalise that behaviour and allow a re-take if the klick is missed.

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matt the mauler May 21, 2014 12:25 pm

What a tool. Hope Lancaster continues to overlook him. When you consider the NZ squad ethos of no dickheads which has helped them become number one in the world, it's no surprise Ashton gets overlooked for England.

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Guest 2 May 21, 2014 12:58 pm

He went full retard..... never go full retard!

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Desert Dragon May 21, 2014 1:16 pm

Oooh.....I think there may be a few shouts in French accents going out to Saracen's kickers next Saturday

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Guest May 21, 2014 1:30 pm

You are allowed to charge down a kick when the kicker begins his kicking motion and if you can touch the ball. You are not allowed to make any noise during the charge down. Shouting is illegal and shows a lack of respect. Hopefully he isn't brought back into the England Squad in the near future.

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Gwyn James May 21, 2014 1:37 pm

Please don't "soccerise" our game. Although proffesional lets stay sportsmen.

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Eddie-g May 21, 2014 2:39 pm

I'm in two minds about this. Clearly, Ashton was a being a dick. But I can honestly say, as a kicker, what he did would be no more off-putting than having him try charge the kick down.

But the bigger issue is that the RFU is saying, it will censure a player for being a dick. I guess if the RFU wants to weigh in on such things, it's going to get pretty busy pretty quickly. I mean, is every wind-up merchant on every side now on notice? For example, when I played, the opposition hooker was sledged on pretty much every line-out. Is that now out of bounds too?

I guess I feel this is something that players could have sorted out for themselves. The RFU has it's role when it comes to dangerous play and the like, but not sure it needs to be actively policing lippy players.

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Gonzoman May 21, 2014 5:39 pm

I think the big difference between a charge and a shout is that one requires some effort and athletic ability, and the other requires nothing but a pair of lungs and a set of vocal chords.

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Skid986 May 21, 2014 3:28 pm

It should have been nothing more than a penalty from the restart and a clip round the head from his skipper for putting the team on the back foot.

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Bunn May 22, 2014 12:02 am

It's not a penalty offence, it's just comes under that same as charging too early, so it can be retaken if missed

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browner May 21, 2014 5:28 pm

You can take the boy outta the North or Rugby league, but you can't take ...............

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123 May 21, 2014 7:46 pm

Different guest this time. The respect in rugby is a huge thing shown by 'most' players and most fans. Watching the saints v tigers game Friday night the whole saints crowd were totally silent for a Leicester penalty never mind the players. Chris Ashton is just an arrogant prick and the exception in the game. I'm glad it was brought up and he was brought to account as it's not how the game is played

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DanKnapp May 22, 2014 5:07 am

Well, the fact that his voice was the only one in the whole stadium says it all.

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Ronan May 21, 2014 8:40 pm

ashtons a fucking knacker......
end of.....

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45678 May 21, 2014 9:07 pm

Ashton is a nob and continues to show behaviour not suited to a rugby field.

However, how many supporters boo, wolf whistle kicks at goal. This is a pot kettle argument, with supporters trying to assume the moral high ground because they are not on the field!

As for the swan diving, please scroll down to the first s15 highlights and I bet you will count more than one swan dive. Being a nob isn't exclusive to Ashton, the English or the NH

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DanKnapp May 22, 2014 5:11 am

I was at Twickenham with a school group and a small handful of kids started whistling during a penalty kick. Before any member of staff could get to them, a stranger in front of them (all 6'6" of him) turned around and said "We don't do that here." in a thick Northern accent. They didn't do it again. We, the staff, had a word as well but they'd learned their lesson.

Yes, some people do shout and whistle during kicks, but thankfully those individuals are reasonably few and far between. The absolute norm is 99% of spectators watching quietly and applauding if it goes over.

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DrG May 22, 2014 9:19 am

I think I recall Jonny Wilkinson talking about the whole thing once. I believe at that time in his career he said he found it easier to take a kick when there was noise because he visualised the posts as a laughing mouth or something like that... He said it was more unnerving when the crowd remained silent. - not 100% on all that but it rings a bell..

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Canadian content May 21, 2014 9:46 pm

Yes nobbery is universal

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Wolonel May 21, 2014 10:11 pm

The reason why Farrell gets dragged into Ashton slag off comments is because he too is a dick. These guys can play, but they can't change who they are, and they are ARSEWHOLES. An outhalf who passes 50 times in 30 phases to gain 30 centremetres, ain't no outhalf. And a winger who cocks up the swan dive every time even after this much practice is just awful. I actually think he is good. Just good though. Has he watched the great dives? Has no one shown him his own crap dive?

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DanKnapp May 22, 2014 5:13 am

Wolonel, I'm sorry to jump in, but I think Ashton is an ARSETHREE-QUARTERS and Farrell is an ARSEHALF. Someone like Hartley is an ARSEWHOLE. Happy to help.

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DrG May 22, 2014 9:20 am


And Bakkies Botha?

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Gonzoman May 22, 2014 1:56 pm

He's a thug. Nothing clever about him!

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dave May 22, 2014 4:20 am

I don't really see what the deal is about shouting for him to push it wide
Saracens were down and depending on how the game would potentially unfold didn't want to be down any further, we all charge the kicker, why not shout to hopefully give him a little more pressure
If you can get someone off their game
by all means
that's competition
and most of you are only voicing such a strong opinion because you hate ashton
get over yourselves,
he's likely to keep his dive celebration and throw in the odd controversial action despite how much you dislike it

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DanKnapp May 22, 2014 5:14 am

Ignoring the fact that I disagree with virtually everything you said, I like the fact that your post resembles poetry. Just wanted to thank you for your postmodern layout and liberal use of the enter key.

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Colombes May 22, 2014 11:53 am

a surrealist poet, though :)

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CDMJ May 22, 2014 4:55 am

Ashton is a dick and needs to stop behaving like it. If he concentrates on playing rugby and with respect as it should be played then he could be a decent player, he needs to work on his defence though he always seems lost.
Same with Farrell what a complete dick...again concentrate on the game not being an idiot and he could be one of the greats.
they are both arrogant and need to have respect for all opposition.
Suarez is a dick but stopped acting like it and began playing some great football these guys need to do the same. I know I brought in football but their behaviour is very similar to footballers and if one of them can change then so can they.
respect and behaviour are what I coach the youngsters first and foremost, play with controlled aggression and play within the laws, written and unwritten!!

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mumha abu May 22, 2014 9:11 am

I too dont like ashton and as much as i adore our wonderful game and the ideals for which it stands, the simple truth is cheating and unsportsmanship are rife and always have been, the difference with ashton being that he does it openly. When neil back tapped the ball from stringers hand , munster fans were aghast where as the players themselves knew and begrudgingly acknowledged the effectiveness of the action. The harlequins bloodgate drew plenty of condemnation from fans but coaches kept very silent and we all know why. Even now if you watch players who are the victims of a tackle in the air or a tip tackle, many of them milk it to the full to get opposition players sinbinned but if you were to go through each incident i reckon 90% are playing up for the ref. these are proper laws for the wellbeing of the players but a lot of the time its like watching someone pull an insurance scam and causing peoples premiums to rise.respect for refs is another matter, that seems to be disappearing too, what with cockerill and o'shea constantly berating refs and not being afraid to do so either.dylan hartley and parisse have already crossed the line with refs how long before its commonplace? im sorry to ramble on but the fact of the matter is the game is and has never been as virtuous and wholesome as we would like and is only getting worse. as i said i dont like ashton but his biggest crime is just not being subtle

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45678 May 22, 2014 9:28 am

well said. cheating has gone on since the dawn of time, some get a pat on the back and are called great - how many opensides get away with murder at the breakdown? how many great props collapse a scrum when its in trouble? are they cheats - not if they don't get caught apparently!

the problem with Ashton is that he wears his working class chav-ness on his sleeve and it doesn't fit with rugby's gentlemanly middle class sensibilities. it was inevitable that rugby wouldn't just be for public school boys when the game went professional, but cheating was probably more prevalent in the amateur days, so there is a large amount of hypocrisy based on personalities.

Ashton is still a dick however

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DrG May 23, 2014 10:10 am

I don't think that is quite the case. As you said, cheating has gone on since the dawn of time - legend (or truth) claims that William Webb Ellis 'cheated' in a game of football and thus created rugby...

The thing is, look at some of the biggest legal tackles in the game, we are ALLOWED to do that stuff to each other, so when someone turns round and there is a bit of fistycuffs, it all gets thrown under the category of - "Well it's a tough game, things are bound to boil over"..

Unfortunately shouting "Push it" is not as a direct result of a perceived personal injustice, what it is however, appears to be just another one of those footballer characteristics creeping into the game.

So yes, yelling out 'push it' and getting in a scrap with someone are both 'cheating' but although one is physically more harmful than the other, it is also more understandable when you get two guys who possess a set of testicles.. screaming like a banshees' petulant child on the other hand is a tad more pathetic and unacceptable..

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DrG May 22, 2014 9:23 am

Put it this way. If it was any other player to shout 'Push it' - I'd still think it was a dickish thing to do... The fact it was Ashton is just the cherry on the top...

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10stonenumber10 May 22, 2014 1:34 pm

I am one of the most irritating, disruptive, loud mouthed thorn in the side pain in the neck players you could ever have the displeasure of playing against. What I lack in skill, size and ability, I more than make up for with positive penalty counts due to violent acts of a violently violent nature by the opposition. I'm serious, I never got personal, or insulting, but there is only so long you can listen to your favourite song being butchered in falsetto before something snaps. All would be forgiven and forgotten at the end of the game, I have stories of songs I sang, forwards I put off, they have stories of halfbacks they 'shut up' and 'smashed into row z'.

However, in all my years of playing to a distinctly mediocre standard, I would never dream of putting off a kicker. This isn't football. Like farting during scrum machine practice, or hitting on the referee's girlfriend, there are some things you just do not do.

I don't think this will be forgotten about Ashton.

He has got nothing going for him. No temperament, shady defender, lost speed trying to bulk up for his non existent defence, no respect for the game, and he looks like Dylan Hartley.

The public school boys in the England squad can't understand a word he says either.

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AshtonIsADoos May 23, 2014 4:00 am

He had a wet dream about his boyfriend and couldn't help the shout he was in the moment.

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al leech July 29, 2014 5:49 pm

he's always doing stupid stuff ! can't wait till he tries a splash and cocks it muppet !!!

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