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England hold on after tense battle with Ireland at Twickenham

I was more annoyed with Farrell because it could easily have earned him a yellow card. He hasn't quite found the balance between aggression and common sense.

1 Month, 4 Weeks ago

Francisco Chaparro red carded and banned for 10 weeks for tip tackle

Ok, sounds like we're probably agreed on the main points, but squabbling over around the fringes :)

That Tuqiri tackle is definitely bad, do you know what/if he got banned?

1 Month, 4 Weeks ago

England hold on after tense battle with Ireland at Twickenham

The game utterly came alive in the last 20 minutes. I mean, it was a good game throughout, but I haven't felt so tense at the end of a game for so long. Either team could have won that. I have a lot of time for the Irish players, they're absolutely immense.

Both full backs were outstanding and put on a proper display of international quality.

The work rate in the English defence was unbelieveable. There will be some sore bodies after this!

1 Month, 4 Weeks ago

England hold on after tense battle with Ireland at Twickenham

What a game. The drinking game was almost as much fun.

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Brian Moore was definitely aware of it. He quoted Shakespeare a few times during the game. Good lad. He normally pisses me off, but he's a good sport at the same time.

1 Month, 4 Weeks ago

Francisco Chaparro red carded and banned for 10 weeks for tip tackle

I think you're looking at this the wrong way round.

Your example of the tap tackle leading to death is useful. A tap tackle is perfectly legal and is not, in itself, an inherently dangerous tackle. Of course you can get hurt as a result of one, but the tackle itself is fine. Therefore the 'what if' is ignored.

We DON'T say:

"Aha! But 'what if' you died from a tap tackle? Let's red card players who do it!"

Instead we accept it as a tragic accident when, or if, it happens.

In this instance the man was not injured, but an inherently more dangerous tackle (one where a player is lifted from the ground and driven downwards onto the upper body) took place. Because these tackles are more dangerous and are not necessary in order for the game to function satisfactorily for 99% of spectators and players, such tackles are banned. Therefore the player who completed the tackle was banned.

He was not punished more severely as a result of injury. He was not punished because he wanted to hurt the other player. He was punished because he completed an action which has been banned, which he knew was banned, and which he did anyway.

Your point about this tackle being judged on what it 'could have been' is irrelevant. This tackle WAS illegal, based on the laws of the game. It didn't have the potential to be illegal, it was illegal.

Regarding BOD's actions, then I've got to be consistent and argue that strictly speaking that should also be a ban. Trying to punch someone else in the face is against the laws of the game. If anyone other than you or I is reading this (which I doubt) then I imagine I'll now have to face the standard charge of 'rugby going soft'.

And again, I don't know if you know what a 'straw man' is, but stop making them. You didn't need to add the 'what if it led to a concussion or even death'. It undermined an otherwise interesting point.

2 Months, 4 Hours ago

Wales bounce back with strong win over France in Cardiff

He didn't deserve the yellow, but I wish he'd got a red card for the dissent. That sort of childish nonsense doesn't belong on a pitch.

(And yes, I know a red would be harsh, but I would still like to see it)

2 Months, 4 Hours ago

Sharks start Super Rugby with bonus point victory over the Bulls

I am ever grateful for RD. It is literally the only website where I ever bother to read the comments and add my own. Virtually everyone who posts takes the time to write properly, read the other comments, and add something to the debate. The contrast with the rubbish which gets spouted on the Facebook links is pretty stark.

2 Months, 2 Days ago

Francisco Chaparro red carded and banned for 10 weeks for tip tackle

Your original comment, starting 'we don't play what if' is pretty ludicrous. You've created a straw man there. Now that you've dialled the rhetoric back a bit you have made some decent points, but you are aware that you were the first person to use the phrase 'what if'?

Ronan made a perfectly valid point which I support - the ban wouldn't seem remotely harsh if he had been badly injured. The fact that he WASN'T injured just supports the decision to ban. We don't ban a player for a legitimate tackle which causes an injury, and we do for an illegitimate one which doesn't. This was an illegitimate one. That is exactly the point which FatProp seemed to build on and which you reacted so badly to with talk of 'wild accusations'. This sort of 'tackle' gains little for your team other than hurting the other player. Now that's all fine and dandy in legal situations, but not in completely illegal ones. This isn't a 'bad challenge' but a massively over the top and dangerous one. The IRB have rightly taken steps to try to improve the safety risks in games with ever-larger athletes. Actions like this are just too dangerous to be allowed to be part of the game.

The link you have posted is really helpful, because it shows just how bad decision making can be when the adrenalin is pumping. The IRB is therefore right to enforce the laws of the game as and when they are flagrantly broken.

I'm not entirely sure about the point you were making in your earlier posts, and until this last one I thought you were trolling. Hence my 'boooooring' comment.

2 Months, 2 Days ago

Sharks start Super Rugby with bonus point victory over the Bulls

Joking aside, thanks for the info. You South African?

2 Months, 2 Days ago

Sharks start Super Rugby with bonus point victory over the Bulls

The rugby pitch near me is under four feet of water. I'd go for the humidity any time.

2 Months, 2 Days ago

 
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