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Huge hit by Tonga in Pacific Nations Cup draw with Samoa

I've watched this a couple of times and even tried to pause it at the right moment. I've even looked up the laws in order to better understand this.

The tackler starts low (his torso is almost horizontal) and explodes slightly upwards. The tackled player goes lower in order to win the contact. As a result the tackle hits him up near the top of his chest/in line with his shoulders (maybe, hard to see).

Law 10.4 (e) says:
A player must not tackle (or try to tackle) an opponent above the line of the shoulders even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders. A tackle around the opponent’s neck or head is dangerous play.

He makes contact with him at shoulder height.

However the tackled player does go low into the contact in order to win the collision. I can't find anything about this in the laws - can anyone point me to a specific law or explanation from the IRB in order to clarify this? I'm more interested as a nerd now, rather than in this particular instance.

1 Month, 2 Weeks ago

New Zealand snatch victory in the dying minutes after strong England showing

AAAAARGH!

"I think Nigel is a very good ref but sometimes he falls below his own standard."

Did nobody on this page learn anything about averages at school?! OF COURSE HE SOMETIMES FALLS BELOW HIS OWN STANDARD! He can be bloody brilliant at times, and make mistakes at other times. HE'S NOT A SODDING ROBOT! The point isn't that he doesn't make mistakes, but that he tends not to make them as much as I would do in the same position.

Show me a single sport in the world which doesn't have contentious decisions in high profile games, and I'll finish you off with any part of me that you want, whenever you want, wherever you want, as many times as you want.

1 Month, 2 Weeks ago

New Zealand snatch victory in the dying minutes after strong England showing

Have a 'like' paimoe. Bravo sir. It's only a shame I can only like it once.

That was a sensational pass. Probably the best moment of the game.

1 Month, 2 Weeks ago

New Zealand snatch victory in the dying minutes after strong England showing

Well, you can keep on wishing for 100% accurate referees. Me, I'm going to live in the real world and just enjoy watching Rugby.

We are never going to have that level of accuracy. Sometimes you are going to win, sometimes you are going to lose. It all levels out in the end. Everyone thinks that their team does worse because of what mathematicians call 'survivor bias' - you only remember the events that confirm your opinion (they are the survivors) and ignore the ones which don't.

I am English. I think England had a few calls go against them in that game. I also know that we've benefited from bad calls in the past. What goes around, comes around.

We're talking about three humans on a Rugby pitch, one in a TV box, trying to referee a game as fairly as possible within the limits of human capacity. They will make mistakes. The responsibility of the fans, players and coaches alike is to accept that and move on. You want your team to control everything which they CAN control, and ignore that which they can't. England made a lot of handling errors and gave away a lot of silly penalties, and arguable cost ourselves the game.

Nigel Owens didn't cost us the game, and saying he did so creates a dangerous precedent.

1 Month, 2 Weeks ago

Wallabies notch up 50 in runaway first Test win against France

Take a look at the English Football Premiership, and you've got a pretty good idea of what the future of French Rugby looks like. I would imagine the national team will suffer from a lack of talented youngsters regularly playing first team Rugby.

Thank God we still have a salary cap in England, and long may it remain!

1 Month, 2 Weeks ago

Wallabies notch up 50 in runaway first Test win against France

Absolutely. Folau is going to tear it up.

1 Month, 2 Weeks ago

New Zealand snatch victory in the dying minutes after strong England showing

No, there was a sensational offload from the deck. Unbelieveable skill.

1 Month, 3 Weeks ago

New Zealand snatch victory in the dying minutes after strong England showing

Haskell did have a good game. Good to see the competition for places!

1 Month, 3 Weeks ago

New Zealand snatch victory in the dying minutes after strong England showing

I don't agree. It is impossible for someone to be right all the time. That doesn't make someone a bad referee. Owens didn't have a good game, but he still did better than the vast majority of referees out there. He got a few things wrong (two 'knock ons' which weren't, plus the yellow or not to yellow, that is the question) which didn't go the way of my team, but I'd still happily see him refereeing for my team in the future.

1 Month, 3 Weeks ago

New Zealand snatch victory in the dying minutes after strong England showing

Both were either yellow cards or simply penalties - but not one a penalty and one a yellow. But I don't think it necessarily decided the outcome of the game. Well played ABs. They won despite looking rusty. We've got to sharpen up and develop as a team over the next 12 months, but I've got faith!

1 Month, 3 Weeks ago

 
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