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Waratahs Will Skelton and Tolu Latu both suspended for double lifting tackle

Fair enough, but how the hell did he get concussion from that? His head didn't really hit the ground... Thanks MattyP for the info.

2 Months, 1 Week ago

Waratahs Will Skelton and Tolu Latu both suspended for double lifting tackle

Given that he didn't land on his head and it didn't seem that he landed all that badly, Whitelock sure stayed down for a while. I hope he really was hurt and wasn't milking it. These sorts of challenges are unnecessary, but so is trying to get another player sent off with your response.

2 Months, 1 Week ago

Manu Tuilagi admits to assaulting police officers, won't be part of Rugby World Cup

I wasn't arguing that punching is acceptable at all, but context is considered to be important in a court of law. I'm genuinely not arguing that punching on a rugby field is acceptable, although perhaps at times understandable. I'm explaining it, but not excusing it. I really wasn't condoning it.

We live in a society where we don't want to see that sort of aggression in public, but to a certain extent allow rugby fields to be outlets for it. Therefore we celebrate behaviour on a rugby pitch which we wouldn't think of celebrating in the high street, for example tackling someone so hard that they struggle to get up.

I was trying to make the point that it was this lack of context in Tuilagi's case which made it so much worse. That is not to say that punching on the field is bad, but I can completely understand it when it breaks out, but is also why I have huge amounts of respect for the individuals who can quickly shake hands and forget about it.

I like the way they shake hands at the end of this - you wouldn't see that in the high street:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkaiwfLzAJU

I also think the Tom Young's incident a year or so ago, when he got clocked in the head, was another good case in point.


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2 Months, 2 Weeks ago

Carlin Isles burns England in semi final as USA fly to London 7s Cup Final victory

This guy is too fast. He should be forced to wear weights.

Great for USA rugby to have a player like him bringing more attention to the sport. I hope that he is fit for the Olympics, it'll be huge for the development of the sport in the USA if they can pull off a medal in that event.

2 Months, 2 Weeks ago

Host selection process kicks off for Rugby World Cup 2023

This is a genuinely good idea. And all profits from those games should be kept in the second country, to be spent on grass roots rugby.

2 Months, 2 Weeks ago

Manu Tuilagi admits to assaulting police officers, won't be part of Rugby World Cup

Context, intention and outcome are all important, and frustratingly subjective in their application in each situation. You know that I'm one of the people who thinks that throwing punches on the pitch isn't ok, but I can at least understand that adrenalin plays a massive part.

The players most likely to throw punches tend to be the forwards, but surely only because they have to prepare themselves for the most intense physical combat every game. It must be phenomenally hard to control that adrenalin. In this situation I think what makes it so bad is that there wasn't the same need for aggression. We intuitively know that this makes it worse.

Another factor is outcome, which understandably annoys a lot of people when applied in a way which seems wrong, and yet outcome matters. We know that a drunk driver who kills people should be punished more than one who only drives into a ditch.

Likewise with intent, which is clearly important. The desire to injure another is deemed to be wrong, and yet if we saw a punch which failed to connect we'd more likely laugh than not.

It is therefore really easy to cast accusations of hypocrisy, which only makes me feel more and more sorry for the referees and officials who have custody of the game. The game is increasingly being pulled in a range of different directions as it grows in reach and appeal. More parents than ever watching their children play, more people than ever watching on tv, more people playing than ever, more money in the game than ever, more medical knowledge about the risks involved than ever... it's a nightmare.

I think your point is that punching on the field is unacceptable, which I agree with, but it isn't easy to read dry humour or sarcasm on t'interweb.

Sorry I made it into something a lot deeper.

2 Months, 2 Weeks ago

Manu Tuilagi admits to assaulting police officers, won't be part of Rugby World Cup

I'm trying to work out what crime I can get Barritt falsly accused of.

2 Months, 2 Weeks ago

Manu Tuilagi admits to assaulting police officers, won't be part of Rugby World Cup

Stroudos is trying to troll a troll in order to get more irritating troll comments, so we can work ourselves up into a rage about it. Stroudos is being a postmodern troll. Welcome to RugbyDump!

2 Months, 2 Weeks ago

Manu Tuilagi admits to assaulting police officers, won't be part of Rugby World Cup

Ooo, Chablis! Is there going to be pâté?!

2 Months, 2 Weeks ago

Manu Tuilagi admits to assaulting police officers, won't be part of Rugby World Cup

Jack Nowell looks like what gets printed out when the Police's Photofit computer catches a virus. He looks like a very badly photoshopped collage of four different people, none of whom have made decent hair choices.

2 Months, 2 Weeks ago