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Mathieu Bastareaud shocks fans as homophobic slur is heard worldwide

Look at the dates mate... 3-4 years ago, the white knights have come out full force since then... Most are trying to make up for the centuries of oppression by the white man...

I say perhaps the social justice 'warriors' (laughable terminology) turn their attentions to the shit storms in the middle East where rather than blokes being offended by someone calling someone a faggot, they're being forced to watch gay folk being thrown off buildings or hanged, etc... Maybe wait until the rest of the world has caught up before going off on a bunch of blokes trying to throw around a fucking ball for a living...

5 Hours, 29 Minutes ago

Mathieu Bastareaud shocks fans as homophobic slur is heard worldwide

Of course they do in the sense that they are totally unrelated, Bastareud is black, therefore calling him a nigger is a direct derogatory remarks to the colour of his skin, him calling me or anyone one else a faggot - which lets not forget is also a food - is not an insult to my sexual orientation..its a flippant insult like calling someone an idiot...

5 Hours, 32 Minutes ago

Mathieu Bastareaud shocks fans as homophobic slur is heard worldwide

In my cry for context above, regarding the Flannery incident, there was something going on in the scrums to which Flannery responded "dat's da fookin second toime you fat c**t"....

And yes, there is talk about banning words like Christmas in certain areas, "Christmas work do?" No, a "end of year festive party"...

Regardless of how wide spread that is, why shouldn't it be next in the list of BANNED things? Think about it rationally...let's say worst thing in humanity has been racism, next we'll have sexism (perhaps), then homophobia, of course we're already delving into the trans-gender-phobia, no doubt we'll get into some trans-species-phobia, of course in amongst that lot we've already got islamophobia, which is not so much a fear of Islam as much of a fear of violence from jihadists (but who's splitting hairs).., according to some millenials saying "bless you" when someone sneezes is a micro aggression, this is because the person you are 'blessing' may not be Christian... So on so forth...

I'll admit we've dived more onto the futures of political correctness madness here rather than the topic of Bastareud opening his mouth, but it does go somewhat hand in hand...

5 Hours, 35 Minutes ago

Mathieu Bastareaud shocks fans as homophobic slur is heard worldwide

And many black us rappers use the word nigger or nigga today....what's your point? Context to that usage please? Was it a "get rid of all the niggers" comment, or was it a black guy saying "come in my niggas vote for me"...

Of course I very much doubt the latter but it'd be nice to know...

5 Hours, 44 Minutes ago

Mathieu Bastareaud shocks fans as homophobic slur is heard worldwide

That is next to come, female teams with born males who identify as females participating... They already have this in other sports, martial arts in fact.

Gay acceptance has already happened, this sort of overblown hype around this incident is all that is holding progression back. Rugby players are renowned for striving to compete and proving things to be wrong, whether that comes in the form of "gays can't play rugby".. which has already been countered by Gareth Thomas and I'd guess others or any other negative..

If society moved together to say "Bastareud grow up" then the world moves forward... People are allowed to use the word faggot as a derogatory term and people are allowed to tell them to grow up... All this stifling of language is doing is creating a sub culture of living negativity, we aren't stamping out racism or sexism or homophobia by pretending those words don't exist, we're putting a blanket over it and hiding it with hope that we can police it out of existence...

For the record, how do we know Bastareud wasn't calling Negri a type of edible meat faggot? You're getting all trumped up, and upset by this when he could simply be acting in the same manner as calling someone a fucking donut! Lighten up, it'll do your heart and mind wonders..

16 Hours, 8 Minutes ago

Mathieu Bastareaud shocks fans as homophobic slur is heard worldwide

Tbh, i won't address everything you've written as I'm on my phone so it's not so 'type' friendly...

10-20% of gay male players...is that not what you said? So as I said, if those 10-20% identifying as gay are in the sport then would it be wrong to assume they've gone through grass roots? My point was, if we are any more openly accepting of gay people (remember one of the top respected referees is gay) then how much more of a percentage of male players to identify as gay do you expect? Because wouldn't 10-20% of male players being gay somewhat fit the worldwide gay percentage? (You may have a better knowledge on the gay percentages than I do).

Are you yourself gay? You can choose not to asnwer or to answer, however I'd consider it interesting if you yourself are not gay, as you are taking a very strong standpoint towards the matter and once again justifying your opinion over others differing opinions...

The two jobs with gay men that come to mind are the most obvious jobs that most people will have contact with, not to mention those in any form of showbiz whether it's YouTubers or TV, they are the ones that are the most vocal in life. There are of course homosexuals in all walks of life, I was neighbours to a guy who is gay who is a surveyor. But typically you're taking the stance challenging my sources, but whoever they are to me what does it matter, again, because my sources go against your script they have to be outed...

But perhaps it's because we're not all teenagers after a safe space. The gay guys I know are all 25+ and really don't give a shit about name calling. Once again this was not a team shunning a gay player who has the skills but 'not the sexuality', this was a remark made by one player to another and you'd never have known it but for the mic.

The world is not progressing socially, in fact we have the cores of what we know in science and biology, such as genders beings challenged because people don't want to have a label....

16 Hours, 21 Minutes ago

This is how Billy Vunipola broke his arm

I was thinking the same thing as your second sentence regarding what some of these guys out themselves through.

1 Day, 6 Hours ago

Mathieu Bastareaud shocks fans as homophobic slur is heard worldwide

I actually thought the rugby mob were far more 'common sense' than evidenced here...

It seemed to me as shown by the likes of Gareth Thomas that most of us are fairly open to not really caring who someone hooks up with. I thought that we still operate in a game where shoulders and boots may break our bones but names just either make us laugh or 'square up' to an opponent..

Let us not forget Bakkies Botha's displays of homophobia by blowing kisses to riled up opponents.. surely we can come up with some sort of hate crime charge there...

1 Day, 6 Hours ago

Mathieu Bastareaud shocks fans as homophobic slur is heard worldwide

So you're saying 10-20% of male players have gone through grass roots, gone into pro level and gone beyond that potentially into international level with this dreadful type of abysmal language being present???? Wow! That's incredible, so obviously we should stamp out the language with an iron fist so that what, we can get the percentages up to 50-60%?

Like my comment above, if gay folk are going to play, I'd hazard a guess they will play and not be particularly bothered by comments like Bastareuds... Look at many gay men n the media spotlight or in cabin crew and they tend to hold their appearance in high regard, are openly quite flamboyant and tend to display a lot of effeminate traits, there is nothing marginalising about them doing that themselves and appearing less 'macho' in the typical sense of the word than, idk, Bastareud et al...

Archaic or not, being offended is subjective, I know a couple people who would not care one way or another about Bastareuds comment, they are gay, they are apparently less offended than a whole heard of you supposed straight guys on here... Equally im sure I could ask a homosexual ex neighbour who would be offended.. so two spectrums there, which do we listen to? The offended one yes? So again, you create a safe space for that person what about for the rest of the folk. Bastareud called an "enemy" at the time a fucking faggot... He did not say "faggots or homosexuals do not belong in the game"... Joe Marler called Samson Lee a 'gyspy boy', obviously I don't suppose Samson has much link to gypsies, so if Marler had correctly (and perhaps unpleasantly if you feel that way) said "oi traveller boy" is that again so wrong and offensive? Or is the real fight we want to have against the people that say "we shouldn't let travellers, niggers, Chinks, faggots, paddies, etc etc play rugby" because we all know that none of us stand for that..

Or are we all too busy playing PC and showing how futuristic and modern we are...

1 Day, 7 Hours ago

Mathieu Bastareaud shocks fans as homophobic slur is heard worldwide

Tom, what would you suggest if.you were to be in charge of a disciplinary for the punishment?

I don't know if you've seen the chaos that's ensuing over the ocean in the US and actually in the UK universities with trans gender, safe spaces, etc etc... I don't believe in discrimination, however I do believe in the freedoms of speech and the right for someone like Bastareud to make himself look silly... I don't believe punishing someone for a discriminatory comment which was NOT said in a discriminatory fashion is right... Coventry wasps, don't worry, I'm not offended, once again you're showing your passion for punishing people on what ifs again..

1 Day, 13 Hours ago