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Courtney Lawes lays into another unsuspecting flyhalf, this time Jules Plisson

Dan,

Some of the comments on this thread are your best work yet!

Thank you for the humour on what is apparently a highly outrageous scene in the rugby world!

Best wishes

Me

1 Month, 4 Days ago

Courtney Lawes lays into another unsuspecting flyhalf, this time Jules Plisson

I have to emulate many comments and say how shocked I am that this is apparently so controversial...

Brian Lima had been f'ing people up for years before this, Jonny Wilkinson made a big hit on a Frenchman that sort of turned and went shoulder first etc etc..

I'm sick of negative comments regarding mismatch, hit in the back, etc... I'm wondering if we've got an influx of trolls or the target of some sort of troll convention or something?

Are you not all rugby players? It appears that even amongst the 'haters' the general consensus is that Lawes was committed... So how exactly would you like him to tackle? Tap the bloke on the shoulder so he turns round then hug him to the ground? Lets say it was a dummy, Plisson would have been smashed holding the ball... So is that still wrong?

I honestly cannot believe the levels of patheticness many of you have stopped too... It's no wonder the game has descended into yellow cards for people jumping to compete for the ball but not being the catcher..

And the French bretheren on here, whether you care to admit it or not, your nation has produced some of the dirtiest scenes rugby has ever seen, yet this causes you outrage? South Africa isn't exactly a clean nation and even Victor Matfield said he has to improve his boxing skills when playing in France! So where the hell have all the fans from 'before' gone too? Or are you donning your 'holier than thou' robes because your nation hasn't produced a good 10 man fist fight in a while?

For crying out loud man the f*ck up! Even the women's rugby has more testosterone and less oestrogen than you guys!

1 Month, 4 Days ago

Courtney Lawes lays into another unsuspecting flyhalf, this time Jules Plisson

Oliver, when a player turns to pass the ball and presents their back, do you think Dusatoir will say "oh no he's not looking, I'll just kind of pull out, or wait until he turns around" or the French equivalent?? Don't be naive!

1 Month, 4 Days ago

Courtney Lawes lays into another unsuspecting flyhalf, this time Jules Plisson

'Lawes smashing players way smaller than him"

....right ok, so at what? Probably 6'7" and over 18 stone, Lawes just ambles around until a player the same height and weight happens to get the ball...

Yeh, I like that, a game where only the small people can tackle everyone and the big people can only tackle those the same size... I suppose it adds more dimension, height charts and weigh scales before the game having a quick meeting with the opponents before the game just to remember exactly who you can and cannot tackle... Sounds like a wonderful sport... You start it up and take all the other nancies with you, might give the rest of us a chance to get on with our sport without any anchors being dragged behind!

1 Month, 4 Days ago

Courtney Lawes lays into another unsuspecting flyhalf, this time Jules Plisson

You're doing a good job of ruining it whether you mean to or not.. "Stamping in the ruck" was never legal as long as I knew it, rucking however was legal! And it lead to speedier breakdowns because people didn't try to have a nap! Tackling people in the air? Why does this keep coming up? No one said this should be legal?!?

1 Month, 4 Days ago

Courtney Lawes lays into another unsuspecting flyhalf, this time Jules Plisson

You're doing a good job of ruining it whether you mean to or not.. "Stamping in the ruck" was never legal as long as I knew it, rucking however was legal! And it lead to speedier breakdowns because people didn't try to have a nap! Tackling people in the air? Why does this keep coming up? No one said this should be legal?!?

1 Month, 4 Days ago

Courtney Lawes lays into another unsuspecting flyhalf, this time Jules Plisson

Interesting you mentioned lawsuits here, I personally don't understand how someone could come into this game then after some time attempt to sue the overseers...

I don't fancy getting smacked about the head a bunch of times due to; firstly, not wanting to endure an uncomfortable experience like it, and secondly due to the health risks... So I don't try to become a boxer... You can't tell me a rugby player or future player watches the game and thinks "there appears to be no inherent risks to this game for which I myself should take personal responsibility for... Game on!"

1 Month, 4 Days ago

Courtney Lawes lays into another unsuspecting flyhalf, this time Jules Plisson

The problem is CC, I believe you are throwing this hit into the same pile as taking someone in the air???

I'm talking about legal intimidation as JonnyEnglish has summed up below, not illegal play... "This type of his could end someone's career"? Come off it, a scrum could end someone's life, an innocuous awkward tackle such as the ones 1/2p makes could end his own career.. If you're playing 10 and you're aware Lawes might 'end your career' then you're going to ship that ball a lot quicker and as such you'll make more mistakes therefore Lawes job of intimidation is done here!

1 Month, 4 Days ago

Courtney Lawes lays into another unsuspecting flyhalf, this time Jules Plisson

I watched the tail end of a program this afternoon which was something to do with the 6N history, they had lots of famous names commenting - Wilkinson, Betson, Dominguez etc.. A very interesting point was a part where it got to an England France game where Betson was told to target JW, that is what he did, he gave JW a bad day at the office and eventually he went off looking a bit ragged - I'm not sure on the outcome of the game, but I used to pride myself in smashing the fly half when I played open side and if it ruined his day, made him pass earlier, pass badly etc then my job was done. Intimidation and fear is as much part of the game as anything else.

1 Month, 5 Days ago

Courtney Lawes lays into another unsuspecting flyhalf, this time Jules Plisson

Agree totally Jimmy, in fact it could be said that if Lawes even tried to pull out if would have ended with a possible shoulder charge/barge or something. I was glad the officials got on with it. Good hit, good decision and great play by both teams.

1 Month, 5 Days ago