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Kiwi pundits rubbish Craig Dowd accusations of "Disrespectful" Haka vs Ireland

Really??? A stink caused because if one blokes opinion over which 'dance' (no disrespect) is performed....

How bloody silly..m

4 Weeks, 20 Hours ago

Kiwi pundits rubbish Craig Dowd accusations of "Disrespectful" Haka vs Ireland

Another part of the game i missed was the start...

So I missed the start, the haka, the commentary...

If I understand correctly, anthems, silence then haka?

I don't see the issue here?!? NZ always do the haka yes... So why would they not do it? Foleys death was tragic, but it happens, he won't be the last great star to die, NZ had Collins and Limited very recently... Surely Ireland wouldn't want NZ to forego the haka? Or would they?

So is it the haka that's the problem? Or the fact they didn't just stick with Kamate?

4 Weeks, 1 Day ago

Mat Luamanu's brutal tackle gets him a five week ban

That's my point JE! We're told tackler has full responsibility these days, doesn't matter what the tacklee does! So if tackler went midriff and the tacklee stooped lower and got his head removed, who is to blame?

Looking at this tackle, I'd say that the 8 lined him up then went in for the kill, he stopped looking at his target, his target then stooped and a higher up tackle occurred (I'm still not 100% convinced it was a higj tackle)...

4 Weeks, 2 Days ago

Mat Luamanu's brutal tackle gets him a five week ban

Whilst I agree with the positions by the 3 above, I believe it is still the tacklers duty to take sole responsibility for the outcome of a tackle....

I personally would like to see certain tackles that end badly chalked down as "well, it was clearly an accident!" because to me this was a guy going in for a big hit and the 10 ducks....

Of course, people can say "he should have gone lower"... but lets say he aimed at the knees and the bloke ducked to ankle level.... still tacklers responsibility or should we have a little leeway...

1 Month, 8 Hours ago

Mat Luamanu's brutal tackle gets him a five week ban

Didnt look that illegal to me....

Maybe reverse angle would clear up any confusion, but I dunno...

1 Month, 13 Hours ago

Ireland break drought to upset New Zealand for the first time ever

Actually Vlad, that is a very good point!!

The usual scenario is AB's get penalised, then they change up their cynical play and perform another penalty, but they can't be punished because it was different to the prior one.... So they can sort of continue the trend without it getting any worse. But yes as you said with a referee stating that he's done with foolishness instantly, it left the kiwis having to reassess a very clever tactic.

1 Month, 13 Hours ago

Ireland break drought to upset New Zealand for the first time ever

Well that's true, I wonder if NZ will respond to this loss by taking their anger out on the poor boys in blue...(or white?!)...

In which case it may actually work in Ireland's favour if the kiwis use their frustration and get a satisfying slaughter against Italy..

1 Month, 1 Day ago

Ireland break drought to upset New Zealand for the first time ever

How did everyone view the refereeing in this match?

I did my best to catch the game but there were parts I missed and parts I wasn't paying attention to, just wondering if any kiwis felt aggrieved by any decisions in particular (this is a free pass to voice opinions without it seeming like sour grapes).

I can't say I was aware of anything in particular, but it did feel that they were getting penalised more than usual.... which I guess amounts to like 5 penalties or something, rather than their usual 1.... :p

1 Month, 1 Day ago

Ireland break drought to upset New Zealand for the first time ever

Jeri, a close match WOULD be exciting... It's more the example I saw (just googled and bloody hell, it was years ago!) 2012, in the Ireland tour:

9th June 2012 - 42-10 to the kiwis...

Big win, then Ireland really stepped up their game and it was a hell of a game, they eventually went down 22-19... but the crowd was thrilled, the expectations for the up and coming final test where Ireland were GOING to repeat the performance and get that much desired win...

...which ended in a 60-0 defeat....

Like I said.... a close came would be wonderful to see.... but I am concerned about how mad the kiwis will be about their loss and what they will turn it into hahaha.


All that being said, if Ireland do get another win, or even a very close defeat, it may just open the doors for the world to realise that the world number 1, isn't unbeatable...

1 Month, 1 Day ago

Ireland break drought to upset New Zealand for the first time ever

Andy: "Come on Ireland, you see that miserable looking little git wearing the 10 shirt... give him a hell of a hiding, he gets so wound up it's hilarious..."

....just hopefully there isn't a fly half swap which will land poor George Ford in the firing line...

1 Month, 1 Day ago