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Sam Burgess leaves Bath and Rugby Union to go back to League

I don't think anyone that wasn't picked would have walked into the AB 9th team...however what they did have was experience and a clear loyalty. Burgess was only just testing the waters in Union, he was exposed as a back rower at Bath and found to be better suited and in reality he blossomed in that position, instead of being a super sub, he gets thrown into the centres as a starter (which is incredible), ahead of some tried and tested players and exposed to be in water far too deep too soon. Then when the going gets tough, he gets gone.. obvious choice and totally don't blame him, but it goes to show it wasn't a good choice to throw him in too quick.

I think the damage to England has yet to run it's course. IF Lancaster stays, what will the 6N unveil? Will Burrell be back in the centres? Will he have faith in his coach? I mean, yes he won't want to turn down a chance to play for England, but your coach has showed sod all faith in you.. he dropped you 'for a league bloke who doesn't even play centre'... what does that say about him, you and the set up you're involved in...??

But going back to your original point, I feel Burgess has been wronged in the sense that he was thrown in with the big boys before his time and it along with whatever personal reasons have caused him to leave Union before he really had a chance to blossom.

3 Months, 5 Days ago

Dan Carter converts final kick of Test career with his wrong foot

Not to knock DC's records at all, because they're immense and they are purely his to have, but it also helps to be part of a world class winning team.. I mean the kiwis have won an obscene amount of games and they're never shy of scoring points. So if Carter is not directly the source of the points through tries.. he also gets the opportunity to achieve 2 points off the back of a try - Like I said, not to knock his record, because the AB's have a habit of scoring outwide so it's an immense solo achievement anyway!

I think 1/2p could rack up a good tally, as could Sexton, but I struggle to see if they'll surpass DC just due to the fact that the teams they're playing for don't quite look like they'd ever get close to the records that the AB's have produced as a team... (which as you said, suggests DC's record could be safe for the next decade)...

3 Months, 5 Days ago

Quade Cooper no-look kick ahead sets up try on Toulon debut

What a brilliant exciting player!

3 Months, 5 Days ago

Sonny Bill Williams gives World Cup winners medal away to young fan, but gets given another one

Because as soon as it happened the guard had 4 or 5 New Zealand mountains surrounding him who basically told him "it's fine" and suggested he back away, you can clearly see the security guard signalling he was not happy with the outcome. Also whilst it's not impossible, it would be more unlikely the kid would go up for a hug and then carried out an attack as it shows far more planning.

3 Months, 6 Days ago

Sam Burgess leaves Bath and Rugby Union to go back to League

I suppose if it is required to write it in more plain terms, then you're right, we're not suggesting Burgess was locked in a cage, forced to eat the rats scurrying around his cage whilst being subjected to humiliating games of....well you get the picture...

What we are suggesting is that Burgess was done a great injustice by the RFU and by the England management. Being selected to play in an RWC would be great, but playing in an RWC for a team that puts in a record breakingly bad performance is probably about as far from a dream as possible...

So the bad treatment, what does it mean? It means a player with great potential; who was learning his trade on the flank, was strangely picked ahead of some brilliant players to play in a position he was not practised in, he was left open and his inexperience was exposed. The last we see is him hanging around clearly thinking "this **** isn't for me..." and off 'home' he goes... so to sum up, his talents and potential were not nurtured and as usual with England, he was blown up beyond his time and then tossed on the pile with all the other 'failed projects'.

3 Months, 6 Days ago

Friday Funnies - Tryscoring Fail in Polish Club Rugby

Please get it on video... Could be on RD!

3 Months, 6 Days ago

Friday Funnies - Tryscoring Fail in Polish Club Rugby

Deserved that!

Although, the opposition deserved a try against them with their inability to smash a stationary player!

3 Months, 1 Week ago

Sam Burgess leaves Bath and Rugby Union to go back to League

In some respect, look at Scotland over the recent years. Their defence was unbelievably good over the years, but their attack was dire, now they've adjusted their plan to attack and therefore lost some of their defence, however they've gained winning potential.

3 Months, 1 Week ago

Sam Burgess leaves Bath and Rugby Union to go back to League

Agreed, whilst on another page we're talking about the inclusion of Armitage and stating it would not have been the difference between a win or a lose, I also don't feel that the exclusion of Burgess would have altered the outcome either. England set up was a mess, players seemingly picked for all the wrong reasons and as you said Dan, they appeared to pick players to do damage control.....

3 Months, 1 Week ago

Sam Burgess leaves Bath and Rugby Union to go back to League

The guy is an elite athlete..

He needs to delude himself into thinking he is a game changer and the worlds best... otherwise he'll doubt himself and probably start to slip...

I read somewhere that the management are the people that are in charge of telling player that they're ready to play, all the players are is coiled up springs, ready to set off... If the management sets you off, as an athlete you'll play to your best and if you aren't ready then that is their fault, not yours...

3 Months, 1 Week ago