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Dave Attwood's big tackles on Steve Borthwick and Mako Vunipola

My main reply was below but just to dip into that bit about the arm, all I sort of meant was, if you and a friend do a wheel barrow race, depending on arm length and your height, he could be perfectly horizontal. If he then decides not to use his arms, you'll be pushing him along on his face - so I meant in this video it seems to me there is a possibility that Borthwick held some of his own weight which allowed him to fall more favourably on the legal side of a tackle. I made a big mess in another video about 'what ifs' and how they're ridiculous, but I meant that more for judging someones punishment based on a what if, whereas here, I feel that 'if' Borthwick hadn't put his arm down, he may have landed in more of a tip tackle fashion..

Which for the record I would argue is still no more dangerous, we're talking about a matter of millimetres differences here...

1 Month, 2 Weeks ago

Dave Attwood's big tackles on Steve Borthwick and Mako Vunipola

Interesting, I personally am in the 'tip tackles aren't dangerous but spear tackles ARE' - I know that doesn't sit right with a lot of people.

The only reason I brought up 'tip tackles' in this video is because I feel like I cannot QUITE see if he lands on the flat of his back and I know that if we want to be extremely cynical then we can argue if he lands at a 91 degree angle, rather a 90 or less then it is technically a tip tackle.

I don't want to open the can of worms surrounding a recent video - http://www.rugbydump.com/2014/02/3602/francisco-chaparro-red-carded-and-banned-for-10-weeks-for-tip-tackle#allcomments where I certainly made no friends in the comment section, but if we forget the circumstances surrounding the two 'tackles' (one did not have the ball, off the ruck etc) I don't see two landings of the players being massively different and that 'tackle' resulted in a 10 week ban.

I suppose I'm making an attempt to highlight how shamefully fragile that line is in the laws between a good dump tackle and a red card worthy tip tackle, when frankly I see not a lot of difference. (Of course as I said, we need to treat the two videos AS tackles).

Anyway, cheers guys.

Phil have to agree with you regarding Goode..

1 Month, 2 Weeks ago

Georgia and Romania Rugby World Cup 2015 qualification highlights

'I don't think it's disrespectful to suggest that a lower placed team should have to prove itself against the cream of the crop in the second tier of Europe, though I don't think this should be done in a 6N relegation context.'

When I mentioned the word 'disrespectful', I was not referring to the fact that the lowest place team should play a second tier team, I don't see what is wrong with that personally, I think it is a good idea. However I think it would be disrespectful for any of the current 6N teams to be removed in a relegation format - more so for the 'home nations' - England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, but also for France or Italy.

1 Month, 2 Weeks ago

Georgia and Romania Rugby World Cup 2015 qualification highlights

..made me chuckle, I'm not sure using up one of the rest weekends and creating a warm up weekend would be the best idea - I've seen a few Georgian rugby fights and the last thing any of the 6N teams need is another 'BOD incident' happening to any of their players: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLoExeByUiE

Referring to the Ireland v Bayonne game..

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1 Month, 2 Weeks ago

Dave Attwood's big tackles on Steve Borthwick and Mako Vunipola

Ok, this is not a 'trolling' comment, BUT, could his tackle against Borthwick arguably be classed as a tip tackle?

I mean Borthwick put his arm down which; again arguably, is part of his 'upper body' no? and also stopped say his shoulder or other part of the upper body hit the ground first...

I would HATE to see a penalty for that tackle, it was perfect (in my eyes) but really, if you applied the law, to the letter of the law, I think I can perhaps see a 'tip tackle' here.

Just putting it out there as food for thought. If you reply, then I'm not asking you to throw abuse at me for bringing this up, because I said myself I think it's a brilliant tackle, I just wouldn't mind some clarification to the laws and whether people think that 'theoretically' this could have been classed as a tip tackle...

1 Month, 2 Weeks ago

Dave Attwood's big tackles on Steve Borthwick and Mako Vunipola

Phil, start making comments about lazy Scots or lazy Italians and see if you can get them to pull their socks up - them winning would make me a tidy sum if I took a trip to the bookies!

1 Month, 2 Weeks ago

Stephen Myler slots conversion with help of powerful wind

Nicely done :D

1 Month, 3 Weeks ago

Jamie Mackintosh off the ball shoulder shot on Richie McCaw

I think instead of squabbling, can we all agree that it would be detrimental to the game and bad sportsmanship if you try and fool someone and get smashed because they fall for it, and then bitch and cry and want the penalty?

I get it, we don't want defenders tackling too early and using the newly invented law by DrG and Matt which states - 'if someone fools you into believing they're getting the ball you can smash them' - to play the old 'I was fooled' card. So my point is, inventing a law wouldn't really work - it is better to give referee's the freedom to use common sense so that players running dummy lines are not 'untouchable'.

But the fact still remains if you actually succeed in fooling someone, it is not very sporting to cry for a penalty when the buy it.

Anyway, I know this video doesn't show McCaw charging up yelling for the ball in a traditional dummy run, but in circumstances where players are running up, I think it would be fair game if you come from an onside position and hit them.

For the record, it looks to me, in this video that Mackintosh realised McCaw didn't have the ball and pulled out of the tackle part way through - which I would argue is fair enough.

1 Month, 3 Weeks ago

Georgia and Romania Rugby World Cup 2015 qualification highlights

Totally agree 07..

If it changes in my lifetime you can eat my shoes too!

1 Month, 3 Weeks ago

Scott Higginbotham sets up try with crosskick then scores with goose step

Brilliant display of skill. It is already well done, but as others have said, him being an 8 makes it amazing!

As for the goosestep, not entirely sure he fooled anyone, but it was brilliant to see, and that finish - ball in 1 hand was sublime.

Not starting a NH SH thing here, it is merely an observation about this game, but that was some awful defence leading up to his try - not the part where he charged through, but the breakaway part.

1 Month, 3 Weeks ago

 
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