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Giant Bok teammates Eben Etzebeth and Lood de Jager come to blows

Agreed, apart from his non headbutt headbutt against oz a few years ago...

Enforcer role really doesn't exist anymore... In pro rugby players are so well schooled that focus on physical skill etc is only part of it, mindset, discipline etc is a huge part of training.... granted for every action there is a reaction, so players taught not to react, whilst EE is taught to provoke a reaction... But I think this is why there is a huge amount of petulant whining going on in the game, because players won't react - therefore their reaction manifests in different ways (bitch to the referee about it)...

What I'm getting at is that if someone like Etzebeth grabs you, you can just throw your hands in the air and stay focussed on your game, and then what? The enforcer role has disappeared... whats he going to do? out wrestle someone who isn't even competing? - that looks stupid and pointless. Will he punch someone who isn't fighting? Again, stupid and will land him in hot water...

The game is so tight these days that even Bakkies found himself sitting on the sidelines far too much. Martin Johnson and the mean eyebrow is somewhat laughable these days (not to his face mind)... but what is he actually going to do to you now? In the days gone by, he was the player that stepped in to sort you out when you were picking on one of his guys... these days that is what cameras, touch judges, referees and TMO's are for....

It's always good to stand there and look mean. I don't shave a few days before a match - makes you look rougher and meaner, but really it boils down to pissing in the wind, especially when a pre pubescent baby faced winger skins you and just makes you look like an overgrown untidy lump... EE's days are number unless like you said, he turns into a mean and extremely skillful player...

Side note, anyone read about new laws to stop players feigning injury? Not sure how they can be applied if players really argue an injury but interesting!!

1 Month, 3 Weeks ago

England beat Wales in tour warmup match at Twickenham

Yup, disgusting scene at around 1:45!

1 Month, 4 Weeks ago

England beat Wales in tour warmup match at Twickenham

Ergo *chortle*

Precisely my point, anyone with half a brain wouldn't moan at Owens - so I'd assume Biggar wouldn't do it....

Mitrea needs to make a stand before teams target him as a weakness in their pre match briefings...

1 Month, 4 Weeks ago

Hitoshi Ono suspended for reverse headbutt against the Brumbies

To be fair, I've seen him do much much worse! Stabbing zombies, sticking a knife into the eye of a sleeping 'saviour', and I'd imagine you'd have some issues if you were top on the list of the "who got smashed by Lucille"....

So this whole reverse headbutt thing is pretty small fish in comparison....

1 Month, 4 Weeks ago

Southland Boys upset Otago Boys as Hakas set the scene for stunning individual try

I suppose now it's almost become an insult not to do... iirc, the AB's only used to do the Haka every now an again, almost perhaps to the teams they really wanted (or needed) to impose themselves on... but I guess if they don't do it to your team these days, it's perhaps deemed disrespectful as it could be seen as a sign they don't take your team seriously....

PC gone mad I guess..

1 Month, 4 Weeks ago

England beat Wales in tour warmup match at Twickenham

It's very strange to see the words "England of old" and them not being used in reference to the 2003 team....

I suppose we should now refer to them as "Ancient England".....

Ancient England - 2003 era
England of Old - 2003 - 2015(?)

1 Month, 4 Weeks ago

England beat Wales in tour warmup match at Twickenham

There is a big difference, however what I'm suggesting is that if Biggar realises that he can try something with Mitrea and have an influence then credit to him for discovering a crack in the game.

"Nigel Owens would not have taken it so well"... I agree, however I don't actually think he'd try it against Owens (I may be wrong), but a clever player would recognise that you get no quarter with NO, especially if you start moaning at him.

As I said, I definitely don't like seeing it but when you have a predictable sport in the form of 3 props in the front row, boiler house, back rows built like second rows, a 9 built like a big oldschool back row, a 10 that can kick a penalty from halfway and 11-15 all built like second row/back row players, it's not surprising that players try to gain the extra edge wherever they can... (Not my description of the Welsh team, just more my description of the textbook team these days)...

1 Month, 4 Weeks ago

Giant Bok teammates Eben Etzebeth and Lood de Jager come to blows

Looks like Eben dropped an elbow on him as they went down. Glad nothing came of it.... Although Details Jager ko'ing EE could have been cool to see...

1 Month, 4 Weeks ago

England beat Wales in tour warmup match at Twickenham

England player on the far left on the picture at the top looks like someone left a skid mark on his jersey....

2 Months, 2 Hours ago

England beat Wales in tour warmup match at Twickenham

Which to be fair in this day and age is good work from Biggar. I don't think the world should support or reward his behaviour regarding that sort of thing, however if he spots a weakness in either the opposition or referee, it's sort of his duty to play to it....

Look at how well NZ do at things like the breakdowns, if the referees don't ping them for certain things, they continue to do it, if they do ping them, they adapt and don't do it...

It's a good skill, even if Biggars example of it is one that should be discouraged and that I despise....

2 Months, 2 Hours ago