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Julian Savea puts Lwazi Mvovo on his backside as Hurricanes snatch thriller

I wasn't suggesting he deserves a place based on his prior résumé, I was just surprised he's been out of the fold for so long to be called a "former AB"..

I just figured he's been injured when it mattered for the AB games hence his omission. Sort of like Many Tuilagi, former England player, or simply "England international"...

2 Weeks, 4 Days ago

Julian Savea puts Lwazi Mvovo on his backside as Hurricanes snatch thriller

You mention "former all black", is Savea out of the runnings these days?

2 Weeks, 4 Days ago

Controversies galore as Munster knock out Toulon with brilliant late try

Apologies for my lack of clarity on 4th paragraph, what I meant is "let's say for arguments sake it's reviewed and they feel N.O made a mistake..."

I personally think it was a good call, but for arguments sake, if it was a bad call it amounts to SFA...

2 Weeks, 5 Days ago

Controversies galore as Munster knock out Toulon with brilliant late try

In all honesty social media has given both a voice to the voiceless and a voice to the ignorami...

I, you, us, all have a voice on this platform...if I say N.O is a useless idiot and a bunch of you thumbs up the comment then it gives power to those that perhaps should not criticise...

Some of you have had the (mis)fortune of refereeing matches, you are a hair thickness above the rest of us commenting. Owens has had a career of top level club, international and top top level international refereeing... Of course, should he be able to wave his cards without due course? Of course not... But should he have every aspect of his game viewed under a microscope by the public and the results published in full view - perhaps not.

Let's say world rugby review this. They see N.O made a mistake with the knocked into touch thing. Ok, so next step, reward points to that team? What about rewarding retrospective field position to the opposition for X,y,z? Let's say based on their review they decide to hand Toulon the victory, would that make true fans truly happy? Should we shoot back to the RWC and retrospectively hand France the RWC title? If not why not? Why bother unless there is a reason for doing so?

Recently the Wales England game the rugby bosses outed the referee for a bad call, what came of it? Anything tangible? No, so why bother publicly doing so?

2 Weeks, 6 Days ago

Controversies galore as Munster knock out Toulon with brilliant late try

Will we ever get a game in the future where we sit back and say "awesome game, right team won" or will we always blame a loss on one (or multiple) refereeing incidents now?

2 Weeks, 6 Days ago

Controversies galore as Munster knock out Toulon with brilliant late try

I think there was a similar instance when a French player (playing for France) threw the ball into touch after being snagged close to his try line.. I agree with you im, I think if this starts getting policed in every instance it has the potential to be another controversial intervention which is open to interpretation, referees will make different calls and inconsistencies will arise.

Police this like the obvious SBW example or any of the others and it will reduce the inconsistencies. Of course there will be an increase in lessons in training to make it look like you're trying to catch it...

3 Weeks, 19 Hours ago

Controversies galore as Munster knock out Toulon with brilliant late try

I guess I was wrong then.... Controversy everywhere... *Rolls eyes*

3 Weeks, 1 Day ago

Controversies galore as Munster knock out Toulon with brilliant late try

Here I go again...Sorry RD

The other aspect is the language around these days. Decisions here have been described as "controversial".

Simon Zebo incident - for me it's 50/50. Zebo was probably never going to be able to get a clean take on that, but he had to try, the hand wasn't trying to bash the ball into touch, but the result was just that... Really, for me it has to come down to the referee has the final word.

Bastareud run, Ashton try - personally don't see much wrong there - again, perhaps 50/50 on the pass, but it was either flat, very slightly back, or very slightly forward... Again, referees call.

Murray try - zero controversy.. everyone looked confused, but it seems only one man had studied that law the night before and that's Murray... Ball knocked on,.he picks it up, try scored.. no.issues there.

Didn't watch the whole match, but it seems to me based on those incidents, the match was called very well..

3 Weeks, 1 Day ago

Controversies galore as Munster knock out Toulon with brilliant late try

Couldn't agree more.. but, this is no longer a game, this is a business, people must be held accountable for failures. We have hundreds of cameras dotted about to overule decisions left right and centre. Rather than the day and age of "get on with it" we're now heading into the realms of having a pause in the game whilst we head off to a conference to view all angles, get the forensics teams in to check for any marks indicated area the ball may have been etc.

Someone used the word "intervention" in a video on the Wade incident - it's a fantastic word for what we see, rather than the game becoming more.fluid, we have more.reasons for stoppages, more reasons for penalties, cards, bans. The referees word is no longer final - some people love it, I hate it.. in the 6 nations we world rugby come out and say a decision a referee made was wrong.. the problem with all of that is that with the umpteen cameras dotted about, people can now make their own calls on the referees performances, they'll complain furiously and all of a sudden someone official had to answer these complaints... It's sad.

3 Weeks, 1 Day ago

Malouf high shot on Wade met 'red card threshold' according to panel

It's not ridiculous at all, but saying that was the reason they lost doesn't say much for Wasps...

3 Weeks, 3 Days ago