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Shane Williams discusses life in Japan and that British & Irish Lions call up

I see your point regarding 6N results and the team, however the point of the Lions tour; from what I gather, is to not pick 'the team that won the last few matches' - It is, in effect, a case of selecting the BEST players from (in no particular order) England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales - THAT, in my opinion (and yes, opinions are like a-holes) was not carried out.

Australia are a top ranking side, but the Australia that was fielded was missing quite a few key players - again, my opinion...

So YES, 'Gatland won the Lions tour', but I personally feel a bit cheated by the way he did it, especially when you consider the likes of the previous tour to SA which was headed by Ian McGeechan who; with the greatest respect, somewhat shafted the Scots (bearing in mind he was a Scottish International!). The team he picked was a good representation of the best players of the British Isles and perhaps as Scotland were (and have been) misfiring, there were very few selected.

I might be a bit old fashioned here and don't get me wrong, wins are important, especially to players, but to me the Lions > a win... It's nice to have them win a series, but frankly for me it's like the Baabaas, you know that from the beginning the odds are stacked against them. They're a collection of great players from a group of nations, but it's a pleasure to see them all banded together and competing against a common 'enemy' as such.

Maybe Gatland truly did pick the British Isles greatest players at the time, but judging by the fact Warburton was captain and not firing well, Roberts was injured for the entire tour bar the last game(?) and Shane Williams was drafted in as an emergency, I'd say he'd taken his Welsh specs on tour and left he Lions ones at home...

6 Days, 13 Hours ago

Shane Williams discusses life in Japan and that British & Irish Lions call up

Yikes, at the risk of opening up old wounds again regarding the Lions tour, I must indeed; as usual, add my £0.02...

The problem is what Gatland did was not directly swap Davies for BOD (although I am aware Davies was wearing the 13 shirt), the thing that grates me, is that he brought in a player who had not played for a heck of a long time (Roberts) and then pushed Davies out 1 position.

"he has always prided himself on picking on form" He picked Roberts, what could he have possibly based Roberts form on? A few training sessions?

Gatland got the win and in the history books credit will be given to him, but I don't think that the series should have been as close as it was and the Lions could have beaten what was a very understrength Australian team in all 3 games!

Oh and as for the "picking a fan to play for the Lions" of course I wasn't suggesting that should have been the done thing, but frankly they could have picked an entire bunch of randoms to play that Lions game and it wouldn't have looked as stupid as picking a retired winger because "he wasn't very far away!"...

I think a quota is a bit pointless, it probably ruins the ethos of the team, it's an honourable thing to be selected for the Lions, but could you imagine being selected because they need a token Scotsman/Irishman/Welshman/Englishman etc.. What's next? "Make sure you select at least 1 gay person, muslim, christian, black, white, chinese, sikh etc etc"...

6 Days, 23 Hours ago

Shane Williams discusses life in Japan and that British & Irish Lions call up

There were plenty Lions fans who probably had tickets to that particular Lions game so were going to be there anyway, one of which was no doubt a winger and probably fairly fit... I understand 'proximity' was their excuse, I just feel it was a poor one..

1 Week, 20 Hours ago

Dunedin Streaker gets Smashed by Security Guard Number Eight

I've had the pleasure of growing up watching HK 7's, where there is often (or used to be) streakers, they were always clattered in big hits, but that's more or less where it ended, they then sort of got dragged away, but I never recall there being any sort of rough justice going on...

1 Week, 2 Days ago

Jonah Lomu wreaking havoc against Australia in 1995

....Well ok we'll ignore the sun thing, but everyone knows gingers are daywalkers...

1 Week, 2 Days ago

Jonah Lomu wreaking havoc against Australia in 1995

Yeh maybe that's true. Thats where my 36(ish) comes in. If I measure at my narrowest point it's a fair few inches less.

1 Week, 2 Days ago

Jonah Lomu wreaking havoc against Australia in 1995

It's said it online when I searched - although we can't always trust that... I don't know if any of his body building stats are available somewhere, maybe they'd give an insight???

1 Week, 2 Days ago

Jonah Lomu wreaking havoc against Australia in 1995

I can find a loophole though.. these days with kickers that can nail place kicks and/or drop kicks from the halfway line and further, seems like every yard really counts now...

But I agree with your point...

1 Week, 2 Days ago

Jonah Lomu wreaking havoc against Australia in 1995

I think this is the part where it's difficult to continue the Banahan Lomu comparison. My position regarding Banahan growing up in the SH would only ever have as much weight as the laptop it's being typed on as he did not and unfortunately for him he was nabbed by the 'backs' and didn't develop into what could potentially be a Lawes or a big back row.

Do agree with 10stone10... Countries will probably start a breeding scheme in order to yield the best 'crop' - Who knows what sort of 'supplements' might be added into their diets etc etc...

...well either that or the 2034 8 Nations and RWC (not sure on the year..) will be played over computer games because everyone will find it just too brutal to play for real...

1 Week, 2 Days ago

Jonah Lomu wreaking havoc against Australia in 1995

10stone10, you've hit the nail on the head with regards to my point, Banahan was trained to be a forward, Lomu was trained to play rugby in an extremely adaptive way. I don't recall how aggressive Lomu was, but I dare say he could have easily been thrown in to any pack as an 8. If he lasted as long as the likes of BOD, you could see him moving into the centres if his pace dropped AND at an international level!!!

Banahan on the other hand is sort of one of those players (I've been here) that appears to be traditionally a forward but due to number shortage and being 'a bit quicker than the others' gets chucked into the backs. I have to give Banahan and myself a little more credit here though - I've got quite good footwork and Banahan isn't quite as 'basic' as the above.

The reason for comparison is more of a height and weight similarity and the fact they're both on the wing more than any other reason. Although I quite like the fact Banahan has come from the forwards as it adds another angle to the discussion..

... Just so we're clear though, Lomu is an All Star XV player and Banahan isn't. Any comparison I've made between them is much like yourself and I discussing how we both fit into the 10 position - (You'd find a heck of a lot more reasons why you do than why I do!).. Comparisons =/= similarities...

1 Week, 3 Days ago

 
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