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Double BITING allegations get Chris Ashton banned for 13 weeks

This is sort of the case in most situations with any sort of aggressor.... it doesn't tend to get highlighted by anyone other than the fans...

It's nice to see a common opinion on the matter -"A biter (and other offenders) deserves a ban, but I can reason as to why they did it!"

6 Days, 23 Hours ago

Double BITING allegations get Chris Ashton banned for 13 weeks

I'm not saying he didn't deserve a ban, but your "not technically legal" statement is exactly why he did what he did....

Rucking a player on the ground was part of the game, it then was taken out of the game and is now quite a hotly refereed area. Grappling someone around the head or neck in a ruck is also something which has now been hotly refereed... not in this instance, and so to be fair I don't necessarily blame Ashton for giving a nibble... but I wouldn't do it (that I know of...), and the fact he is punished is totally fair enough...

Point in being, biting someone is not technically legal either, but surely being bitten is part and parcel of sticking your arm in someones mouth...?

1 Week, 1 Hour ago

Double BITING allegations get Chris Ashton banned for 13 weeks

Did anyone see the other bite that was alleged to have happened?

It was a bad move by Ashton, it was always going to end up as a ban, however - mitigating circumstances... if you swing a forearm into someones head or face, then you should really expect some sort of reaction.

Will Greenwood put it very well I thought. Ashton - like most rugby players, doesn't seem like a bad guy, but when he gets his head in the clouds it all goes really wrong!

Hope this somehow gets his head sorted. Stupid stuff and deserved a ban for it, at the end of the day a bite is worth a minimum of 12 weeks... regardless of what happened this was a bite...

I don't want to to harp on too much about Franks 'gouge'... but in the same instance regardless of provocation or accidental or anything, a poke is a poke... should enter in at minimum level and go from there... So I think it's harsh on Ashton, but it's also fair enough... players should know where they stand and upholding the laws and holding players accountable will allow them to know where they stand...

1 Week, 3 Hours ago

Springboks and Eben Etzebeth perplexed by 'technical' lineout law

Tbf, it looked as though Ashton got a facefull of wrist and bit it as a result. Not as outlandish as you claim, but nonetheless illegal and very poor!!

However spitting is the worst, then biting?! I think I'd rather be spat at than gouged or bitten in all honesty...

1 Week, 8 Hours ago

All Blacks too strong for error-ridden Springbok challenge in Christchurch

Brilliant read Foxtrot, and you Stroudos!

If time wasn't a factor a coach would turn around and pick "beast" (a deserved player) and the rest could be uncapped or 'anything' black players... Have no white players at all and then just watch the mess unfold...

The problem as said is that it's self defeating, disheartening and all in all wrong. Habana for instance, I believe, is not included in the quota because he is mixed race... Therefore as far as anyone is concerned he's "white"... How bloody racist is that coming from a bunch that want something equal?!?! And as I've said numerous times if you are picking a team and your choices are 'the beast' or a white not as good equivalent.... Who would you choose?

Investing in grass roots so that young black kids want to get into rugby instead of football is the only way forwards. Not forcing quotas!

1 Week, 9 Hours ago

Springboks and Eben Etzebeth perplexed by 'technical' lineout law

...err RD, want to respond personally or should I copy and paste your last comment? ;)

1 Week, 16 Hours ago

All Blacks too strong for error-ridden Springbok challenge in Christchurch

Chill out.... It's not as if the AB's can get involved in SA politics so that the SARFU then sorts out who is the best players to play so that the AB's can beat the best team...

It's a domestic issue and it's up to you guys to sort it.... The world can make their opinions known, but they can't exactly get involved in government politics....

I personally believe what you're saying to be the best option, invest in grass roots level and who knows by 2025 you might have an all black bok team (wait, what?)... but to force people into a jersey because they fit the right colour profile is wrong on all accounts. It is demeaning to the players and demeaning to the team and the sport... but... your issues...

On a much less political scale, every country has a coach that picks the wrong blokes... France suffered greatly with the lack of Trinh-Duc... England had some abysmal teams picked to name a couple...

Regardless, bok fans will make it known, they're a seriously hostile crowd to their own team... if the losses keep coming, blood will boil and people will walk away....

1 Week, 1 Day ago

Springboks and Eben Etzebeth perplexed by 'technical' lineout law

I don't think the boks should be shown any 'sympathy' as such, but maybe your wording is not how I'm reading it...

I'm caught a little between minds... As the referee said, I suppose you can't dummy jump to get oppo up, then throw over oppo.... but by the same token, have a big of tricky movements is also part of an interesting lineout for me...

Would referees pick this up in a long lineout I wonder...

1 Week, 1 Day ago

All Blacks too strong for error-ridden Springbok challenge in Christchurch

True, but have England recovered from 2003 yet?

How long did it take for them to re find their feet? SA has struggled for a few years now, they've grown in some ways and fallen in others... Also consider Montgomery, is Bismarck du Plessis still around? There are more names than i mentioned.... I'm just not v good at remembering them...

Also iirc, Dallaglio stayed on after 2003 for a season (or 2) as did Kay? Thompson, Leonard also... They hit their slump almost after Johnson quit... That was a long time ago now... No wonder I can't remember it all that well...

1 Week, 1 Day ago

All Blacks too strong for error-ridden Springbok challenge in Christchurch

Thanks for the info all!

Seems almost like a cloudy bunch of heads then. Re my comment about post 2003 England, there weren't as many of the 'outstanding' players... and of course, Monsieur Wilkinson was missing, but generally they weren't a bad team on paper, in fact they were a good team. Seems the same as the boks then.

Perhaps they relied too heavily on their stalwarts (not that I blame 'them'). Matfield, Bakkies, De Villiers, etc. I'm sure it won't be too long before the boks get back to the meat laden dangers they should be!

1 Week, 1 Day ago