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Courtney Lawes lays into another unsuspecting flyhalf, this time Jules Plisson

Jesus Christ, then secure it between two pick ups and have them drive at you...

2 Days, 1 Hour ago

Courtney Lawes lays into another unsuspecting flyhalf, this time Jules Plisson

I'm not sure Dan, whatever I'm doing is not intentional, I feel I'm being forced to react in this way due to irrational views on the matter...

2 Days, 2 Hours ago

Courtney Lawes lays into another unsuspecting flyhalf, this time Jules Plisson

Oliver, I think perhaps the fact that the French are persecuted has got you a bit in a muddle....

Can we come to an agreement on Betsen and Lawes... are you saying you're happy for both to be yellow or neither to be yellow?

Because I'll be happy if you pick one of the above and remain consistent... I'm simply saying here that I think Lawes does not deserve any penalty, card etc for his tackle AND neither did Betsen... What I don't want to hear is you say (I'm exaggerating here) "Lawes deserves a ban for life because of all the past unfair dealings with French players" - Please match each case on it's merits...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDq2OPXtZso

What is your view on this tackle?

To me I'd say it's fairly similar in body angles to Lawes tackle... I don't believe that should be penalised or carded...

and once again dear Oliver, France has produced some classic rugby over many many years, some brilliant players, some 'legends' of the game... but it has produced some dirty games as well, maybe they were just well documented, but it seems to me that amongst the modern nations of the game, it had some of the worst!

I'll provide some links for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a9mxJYnnYs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLql9IRrDzM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcFOmf6Q1lk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaxwekEM2Qo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzhQHfJSvrc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ_0aRfkasw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LieAndS_0qw

I've not selected any in particular, just simply a bunch from the first page of youtube, I'm unaware of the nationality of the person who caused it all...

If you like to see something interesting, I've typed in 'French rugby fights' and this is what youtube throws up:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=french+rugby+fights
And replacing 'French' for 'English' throws up this:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=english+rugby+fights&spfreload=1

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2 Days, 2 Hours ago

Courtney Lawes lays into another unsuspecting flyhalf, this time Jules Plisson

@rdump0

English lesson? Why, moments are the turning effect of a force around a pivotal point. If you consider the human body and where your centre of gravity is you'd say it's around the belly button (on average) therefore, that would be considered a fixed point on Plisson, or 'pivotal point'... so when he gets smashed above that centre point his legs flip up as his upper body and Lawes falls to the ground... if you can't understand the difference between that or 'lifting' then there is no helping.

2 Days, 2 Hours ago

Courtney Lawes lays into another unsuspecting flyhalf, this time Jules Plisson

What you're saying makes perfect sense, what I was mentioning however was in some reference to the lawsuits I hear are occurring in the US regarding concussions... I'm not entirely sure what these cases are entailing, I'm assuming something to do with inadequate rules to prevent head removal or something...

It's just I cannot see how rugby could ever follow that line, unless players have not been allowed to see medical professionals after a head knock or something :/ - again, this sort of boils down to my previous comment on the fact that a lion tamer can't bitch if he one day gets nibbled...

2 Days, 2 Hours ago

Courtney Lawes lays into another unsuspecting flyhalf, this time Jules Plisson

I'm happy for lines to be drawn, please don't get me wrong, I don't want rugby to descend and become an all out brawl. However I believe spear tackles have been illegal for long time no? Dump tackles were legal however...

Anyway, I agree that each of us consents to play the game, however, would you say it is fair that a player such as 1/2p sues, say World Rugby, because he was concussed so many times and has head aches or something? When it's clear that his tackling was bad... or for instance a player that has received head to head clashes on numerous occasions decides to sue? I don't.... it's not a case of 'be a man', as much as, understand the dangers involved...

I go to the gym and lift weights... if someone decides to leap on the bar if I'm benching.. then yes 'suing' could be an appropriate action, but if for instance it slips from my hands because some sweaty guy held it last and I lose my grip and squash myself, surely I have to take some responsibility for knowing what I'm getting into..

2 Days, 18 Hours ago

Courtney Lawes lays into another unsuspecting flyhalf, this time Jules Plisson

I think we're reaching an impassible gap here Canadian discontent, I totally disagree. intimidation or fear is necessary in both defence and attack...

Did you never hear a coach tell you to 'smash' your opposition so that he doesn't want to run at you again? That is fear!

You want the opposition 10 to be scared to hold the ball too long. Any player be scared to catch a high ball (because they know your timing is going to hurt!), the pack scared to scrum down, because they know the power you have... etc etc... if you don't appreciate or understand this, then as I said, we are at a void too large to fill...

2 Days, 18 Hours ago

The Shortball highlights wrap from Round 6 of Super Rugby

RD, you ask if we think 4 weeks is the appropriate penalty (punishment?).

For me, the answer is no, based on recent bans for other players.

There is obviously a big list that the ban bunch have to go through before they make their decision, one of those things on the list is; I assume, is the on field punishment.. I think this is near BS personally... I think a red is the correct decision, however I don't believe any player should be 'rewarded' for a referee doing his job properly...

Take into consideration Pape's recent ban... 10 weeks (no?).. now I believe there was some sort of mention of an extension because he only received a yellow (when it should have been red...) again, I dislike this idea.

To be clear, both Pape's incident and Du Plessis' should result in a red card, however what I'm getting at is that neither should be punished, nor rewarded for the referee doing a crap job (in Papes case).

HOWEVER, this is the part where I offer any French fans on RD an apology for past comments about 'tin hat theories' regarding how they're unfairly persecuted. I don't see an awful lot of difference here (cynically speaking) on what Pape did and what Du Plessis did... Both were blindingly obvious, dangerous, pointless and stupid.

2 Days, 18 Hours ago

Courtney Lawes lays into another unsuspecting flyhalf, this time Jules Plisson

Yes I cringe at the term 'hater' but frankly this is overblown nonsense..

3 Days, 18 Hours ago

Courtney Lawes lays into another unsuspecting flyhalf, this time Jules Plisson

Why forget my comments about French or the saffas???

It's an entirely valid point, French rugby up until recent years was horrendously dirty... Will you honestly deny that??? As for the Saffas, it's common knowledge that they're hardly angels...

I suppose you don't want to ignore comments on Brian Lima or Jonny Wilkinson?

3 Days, 18 Hours ago