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...They may very well be, but no doubt each and everyone of them could leave you flat on your arse wondering what hit you...
4 Weeks, 21 Hours ago
Good man, I'd appreciate that. But honestly though, there needs to be more of a public announcement as to what is acceptable by the majority of kiwis (or more importantly Maori's)... I mean we've seen the Sipi Tau being performed back to the All Blacks during the Haka, so surely that is just as 'aggressive' or at least as traditionally aggressive than standing there.
Contrary to most of my comments, I don't tend to care so much what Nonu is on about, in the sense that as you've said, it appears most of the Kiwi's thought it was a way of saying 'challenge accepted'.. and lets face it, Wales got beaten then anyway. I just found it interesting that someone could take such offence over something like that but not get highlighted as the minority on the subject.
4 Weeks, 1 Day ago
Congratulations to the England women's team for the final win. Congratulations to Canada ladies for getting to the final!
I find it quite amusing that in some ways the women's rugby is almost rugby at it's purest... There is obviously a lot of money and business involved, but for the most part; perhaps due to a lack of huge media coverage, it comes across as a game only the purists are interested in.
Take the mens rugby world cup, you get every bloke in the land cheering for INGERRRLAND (and the other respective countries), even those that wouldn't have a clue what a rugby ball looks like and still claim a better tactic would be to stop passing it backwards and pass it forwards!
Tell them there is a womens rugby world cup and yeh sure you'll get a few pervs that would no doubt get put on their arse by any one of the female players, but the majority will be watching the game for the enjoyment of seeing more rugby and lets face it, it's high quality stuff!
It's the whole catch 22 thing, naturally it's good for the sport to have a big spotlight on it, but the more and more highlighted it gets the more and more scrutinised and prodded it can get.
Apologies if any of the above comes across as patronising, condescending or carries any other negative energy, it is not supposed to.
4 Weeks, 1 Day ago
When did Ma'a speak for the rest of NZ?
When the rest of NZ didn't speak out against Ma'a... I get everyone wants to back their own team/player etc, but why didn't King Maori stand up and say "yeh in the ancestral times the Welsh teams heads would have been used as footballs, but in these modern times I thought the way they stood up to the Haka showed immense 'bravery' and was pretty cool" ...(I pick out Wales because that's the team Mr Nonu got upset about)...
Interesting you feel it should only be performed in NZ when in the past it was only ever performed overseas :/
Ka t? te Ihiihi Stand up to the fear
Ka t? te Wanawana Stand up to the terror
Ki runga ki te rangi, To the sky above,!
Or turn away and don't face it...
4 Weeks, 2 Days ago
I kinda thought the same thing... Imagine being sent off and then your guilty mate afterwards saying "haha, that was lucky, he almost caught me!"
1 Month, 4 Hours ago
So he's not a Maori?
...if he isn't even a Maori then what is his bitching all about?
1 Month, 13 Hours ago
HAHAHA at your last paragraph!
I know Irelands call is not quite the same, but by the same token it doesn't 'need' to be sung anymore than the haka NEEDS to be performed, but you agree surely that just because it is not within the 80minutes play of the game it is still PART of the game?
1 Month, 14 Hours ago
I personally and perhaps incorrectly, view the Haka as part of the game, in a traditional sense, it is something done before each NZ game and that part I love, just the same as the Samoan and Tongan counterparts. As someone mentioned Irelands Call is the song the Irish team (and everyone else) sing before each of their games, THESE my friends, are; as I said, part of the game. I think it's a wonderful part that also shows the 'other side' of the game, rather than literally picking up the egg and running. They're what make each of the teams unique aside from their National anthems.
Of course I'd imagine those that have teams that don't have any of these traditions find them a bore and a waste of time - Perhaps there is also a taint of jealousy that their team doesn't have anything in particular to perform back. But lets face it, even teams like England that have the worst national anthem known to man still have a crowd that sings 'swing low' and drowns out the AB's Haka..
But I am sure many of you believe the same as Mr Nonu:
"The haka is the haka, then afterwards there is the game"
If everyone truly believes this, then I suppose it will sadly and in theory SHOULD be the end of the ALL these traditions: Irelands Call, The Sipi Tau, Siva Tau, Cibi etc...
1 Month, 16 Hours ago
"If you stand and take the Haka, that is the greatest sign of respect for the challenge laid down"
Well, not really, one of my (many) posts above highlights comments by Ma'a Nonu, not 100% sure but I'm pretty sure he is a genuine bona fide Maori... and he seems to think standing up to it is disrespectful..
1 Month, 16 Hours ago
Well, yes the IRB do set the laws, but it takes an All Black player; perhaps one with a missing eyebrow to step up and say "yeh we lay down a challenge and the ____ team picked it up! Great game, great atmosphere etc" instead of crying and bitching...
He was hurt and upset... Come on...
Imagine hundreds of years ago a battle scarred Maori returning home after winning battle and saying to his wife:
"It was so horrible, I don't think I can ever go out again"
"Why my dear?"
"Well, me and Tana and Ma'a, oh..by the way, tell their wives that they're both dead... anyway, we did the Haka and the other lot just STOOD there and LOOKED at us, it was horrible, I'm so upset and disrespected"
The Kapa O Pango has/had a throat slitting gesture... I'm sure one could take far more offence to that being aimed at them than someone who just stands there looking...
1 Month, 1 Day ago