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The gloves come off during North Island vs South Island match in New Zealand

"Rugby people" grate on me in ways I didn't know were possible. I love Rugby, but my every interaction with "Rugby people" turns me away from what is an otherwise great and entertaining sport.

I understand more and more why in every country but New Zealand, Rugby is seen as a sport for out-of-touch, bigoted wankers.

If not for the fact Rugby attitudes are so blood stupid there would be no doubt in my mind it(Rugby) could challenge soccer for popularity. The problem is the people who represent Rugby, people like you, make normal citizens of the world gag - and thus Rugby will forever be hindered by its own community of self-righteous garbage.

I'm done with this website now, it's proven impossible to penetrate the wall of indoctrination. But I really want you to think about it and comprehend that Rugby is criminally under viewed and participated in because ordinary, intelligent, working class people do not want to associate with the plutocratic values that you represent. Please understand that you are the reason Rugby is only played and watched by the upper middle class - ruling classes.

1 Year, 7 Months ago

The gloves come off during North Island vs South Island match in New Zealand

But I'm not a thug scumbag. I'm a clean and fair player. I wouldn't enter a fair fight and attack an unsuspecting opposition player with an arm to the throat/face, and as such your hypothetical makes no sense.

Did your response make sense when you were typing it?

1 Year, 7 Months ago

The gloves come off during North Island vs South Island match in New Zealand

And I call a thug jumping into a fair fight and attacking a players neck being punched for his actions justice. Deal with it.

1 Year, 7 Months ago

The gloves come off during North Island vs South Island match in New Zealand

I don't reject Rugby, I reject the nonsensical, backwards doctrine parroted by most Rugby fans. Your assumption that I don't play and therefore don't belong on this website are evidence to that.

You cannot hold individual opinions in Rugby. You must repeat the establishment-line to be accepted into what is a rather peculiar cult of self-congratulatory nonsense.

If you feel that intervening in a fair fight and clothes-lining someone is a scummy act then you musn't be a rugby fan, and you should just go somewhere else. There is a concise culture of irrational conformity, whereby individual opinions and objective argument make you victim for ridicule.

I love Rugby, I just can't abide by the people in control of the game and the dogmatic rubbish that "members" of the game conform to.

As an ardent atheist and skepticist I cannot abide it.

1 Year, 7 Months ago

The gloves come off during North Island vs South Island match in New Zealand

It just shows that Rugby is more and more a thug sport with flawed prerogatives and out dated values. In Rugby League Donnelly would have been marched and rightly so! This "one in all in" crap needs to go, it's not 1922, have a bit of self restraint and don't dive into a fair one and attack a player.

Jumping into a fight and making it a two on one is one of the most cowardly and thuggish things that you can do. But again, you blokes seem to have backwards values and for some obscure reason that's seen as acceptable behaviour.

Jumping people = honourable in the eyes of the rugby community.

1 Year, 7 Months ago

The gloves come off during North Island vs South Island match in New Zealand

I'm actually glad to see white 5 get a punch in the face on account of his own thuggery. It's absolutely out of order to sprint up to 2 men in disagreement and attack an unsuspecting player in such a violent and dangerous manner, as white 5 did. It's no wonder black 5 gave him a taste on the ground... he had it coming! If he wants to run around attacking peoples necks, potentially risking career ending, no, life ending injury, he has no right to complain at being punched in the face, a far less dangerous and more reasoned action by any objective measure.

I can't get my head around how people can think it's acceptable for a behemoth of a man to blindside somebody with a ferocious clothesline to the neck. White 5 is lucky he didn't break the guys jaw. If he made such a challenge in actual play he'd be banned for a matter of weeks, there's no question. He, unquestionably, had it coming. When you dog shot someone like a common street thug, as Donnelly did, then you open yourself up for similar treatment... AND you have no right to complain when it comes.

It doesn't surprise me that players like Paulo are taking the law into their own hands, dishing out their own form of punishment, because the lack of suspension for Donnelly just highlights that the judiciary and refs are incapable of policing foul play and violent assault.

Seems the unusual Eurocentric nonsense that plagues rugby is clouding peoples judgements. Flying clothesline to the neck/head = amicable, punching on the floor a person who flying clotheslines your team mate = out of line.

You couldn't script it. It's the sort of thing you'd expect from a Brass Eye episode.

1 Year, 7 Months ago

How dangerous are concussions in Rugby?

Yeah okay, well we probably agree but I put my opinion across wrong. I just get annoyed when I see Rugby fans bring up the NFL over and over and over. Yes they are ahead of us in study and technology, but the results they've uncovered are not necessarily the results that we will uncover with our own research.

I actually agree with the proposed concussion rules in Rugby, just to make that clear. I'm not objecting. The more we can do for player safety the better is my view. But my main argument is that we should bring in regulations on the back of our own findings within the sport of rugby, and not the finding of other sports.

I hate when the topic of concussion comes up and everyone brings up the NFL or the NHL as if they're precisely relevant to Rugby. The frequency and severity is very different in Rugby, so lets do our own investigation(as the IRB are doing).

I personally feel there are Rugby fans, and media outlets, who are jumping the gun, based on information and issues within a sport that is not our own sport. Rugby is not American football. Lets keep the concussion issue in perspective.

1 Year, 8 Months ago

How dangerous are concussions in Rugby?

I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I'm saying the sports are worlds apart. People need to stop talking about the NFL. Rugby injuries and concussions should be taken on their own merits. Rugby is not American Football. Anybody who thinks so has not taken part in American Football and felt the full force of the tackles in their game.

I don't know where you got the idea I'm calling him a liar? I'm not saying he's lying, I'm saying he's one man and the rates and severity of concussions in rugby doesn't come close to that of the NFL. We shouldn't change rugby or look to change rugby on the strength of sporting statistics from a different sport.

We should judge dangers and make decisions to Rugby on the game of Rugby and the injuries suffered within it. So far most of what I've seen from Rugby fans is sensationalist nonsense predicated on problems suffered by NFL players.

I am NOT refuting Steve Devine, I'm saying lets look at Devine, lets look at players like Berick Barnes and Stanley, and any ex player with a history of significant concussions, and make conclusions and changes to the game based upon our own - and not on NFL players. And lets not muddy the waters between concussions in Rugby and concussions in American Football.

I don't think that's too outrageous a position, but I could be out of touch.

1 Year, 8 Months ago

How dangerous are concussions in Rugby?

Lol at people making NFL comparisons. You people don't actually think Rugby hits are even 1/50th of what NFL hits are, do you? In the NFL they run about flying through the air like superman, shoulders, helmets and all, from large distances at great speeds.

In Rugby players line up from a few yards away and wrap each other. The force and dangers are miles apart. Rugby doesn't have big enough hits to produce the devastating effects that sports like American football see. Even Rugby League, which comes closer, is still considerably safer. Rugby is more comparable to head knocks in a sport like soccer.

The real elephant in the room for rugby is the mass of life-ending, literally but more often figuratively, spinal injuries. The inherent danger and barbarism of rucks and scrums is a far more pressing issue, especially in age grade Rugby.

The most effective way to erase the problem is to change the culture, fortunately that's been happening already as you can tell by responses. Culture is changing and people are more in the know about concussions and their dangers. If we can get the same awareness on the archaic gladiatorial nonsense and thuggery in rucks and scrums then we'll be getting somewhere.

1 Year, 8 Months ago

Rodrigo Roncero puts Ronan O'Gara on his backside in 2008

Michael must live in an alternate universe. ROG tried to kick the Argentinian. Shame Roncero didn't stamp on his nuts - he would have deserved it.

1 Year, 8 Months ago

 
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