The shoulder was always infront the arms only came after the hit. Also the way Brussouw got injured he was stuck in a ruck upside down with ribs exposed but had no influence on the ball presentation. A wallaby player came charging in breaking rule 10.4 (k) directly at brussouw's exposed ribs. There was no other motive than to injure. And he succeeded. Sad we didn't get a replay of that or a citing... Would love a clip of that 2. And then compare that to what bakkies did against the lions... just saying.