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Further discussion and angles on Owen Franks' finger in eye of Wallaby

I get that DrG. As you say, pundits spout blatant BS all over the world and people get on sites like this and say what they think. I do it myself, but I don't assume the pundit represents the whole rugby culture of SA, England or whatever. To use this situation to accuse a specific fan base of driving some imagined increase in arrogance and nastiness, with no objective evidence at all, is nonsense. It's just more spouting. I reckon the NZ fans' range of responses to this situation in general is probably no different than you'd get from any other fan group. Some good and some stupid. To pretend otherwise is rubbish. So I'm in the mood to call rubbish when I see it.

3 Months, 2 Days ago

Further discussion and angles on Owen Franks' finger in eye of Wallaby

I'm not sure you've chosen the right time to make this very subjective claim. On this forum and others that I've checked, there seem to be plenty of NZ fans who agree that SANZAR have stuffed up completely on the Franks incident. That's my position too. There are as always some people who cannot see out of two eyes at once, all fan bases have them. But experience tells me the balance between the rational and the idiots would not be much different if this involved a player from SA, UK, France, Arg etc. So I don't understand why you point the finger at NZers.
And I just don't see any proof that NZ fans are driving some sort of perceived increase in nastiness, even if there is one. As for nastiness not being there before… going back a bit, before many forums were moderated (including this one) the nastiness was full on at times and came from all over. Nope, I don't buy it.

3 Months, 2 Days ago

Owen Franks somehow escapes punishment after fingers in Wallaby face

Do you seriously believe that NZ deliberately cheated? They were already through to the next round, but you're convinced that even with all those cameras and the rugby world looking on etc etc, they decided to deliberately put an 8th man on the field to try and win the game!
It was a screw-up. World Rugby realised this and also realised that their own officials were at fault monitoring the interchange. Their phrase was "an inadvertent breach as a consequence of a number of factors relating to the management of replacements involving a number of parties". Translation – we and others screwed up.
Australia stayed quiet and probably hoped the result would not be reversed, they liked how the draw looked in front of them. Because this result almost guaranteed NZ a semi-final against Fiji, it would have made more sense for them to throw the game. Now that would've been real cheating, and much easier to do.

3 Months, 2 Days ago

Owen Franks somehow escapes punishment after fingers in Wallaby face

That doesn't make sense. It's precisely when the vast majority are silent (like during a penalty kick), that the noisy minority can be heard, even on TV. So your evidence so far is that some booing could be heard on TV and a guy posted an abrasive comment on the internet. The internet is full of posts every weekend from rugby (and other sports) fans all round the world that range from impolite to just plain offensive. By your reckoning these represent the whole fan communities of those posters, which means that we are all just a bunch of classless yobbos… including you and me. You can please yourself, but I'll reject that idea and I'll do it on behalf of my friends too (well, most of them, but that's another story).
Make no mistake, I think any persistent booing is stupid. But in my own experience of watching different codes in different countries for a long time, there are booing idiots everywhere.

3 Months, 4 Days ago

Owen Franks somehow escapes punishment after fingers in Wallaby face

The ones I know are just fine. As with any fan base, it's a mistake to judge everyone by the idiot minority.

3 Months, 5 Days ago

Owen Franks somehow escapes punishment after fingers in Wallaby face

I agree with you Lloyd. Even if it's with the palm of the hand, the face is just a no-go area and there should be some official recognition of that in a case like this, whether or not further action is taken.

3 Months, 5 Days ago

Los Pumas beat Springboks in Argentina for first time ever

I agree flacointheus. In the world of rugby that I know, people are delighted to see the growing strength of Argentine rugby, and as far as I can see, World Rugby is taking sensible steps intended to promote the game in Argentina, and promote Argentine rugby internationally. And it seems to be paying off as the Pumas' international record steadily improves. If steve is right that Argentine fans think the world doesn't want them to win, I can only say that I watch a lot of rugby, read a lot of analysis and comment and talk to people all the time, and I haven't noticed anything of the sort.

3 Months, 6 Days ago

Phil Kearns has some interesting theories about All Blacks success

There was only one penalty difference (9 to 8) and a free kick each way, so it wasn't a highly penalised game. The SA/Arg match had 22 penalties and 2 frees. If I remember NZ was pinged a couple of times for offside in the first half and adjusted. But they were still quick and in the face of a national side that seems to have lost what was a deservedly celebrated ability to penetrate even the best defences. I was pleased to see NZ play well to win, but I've always admired Australia's approach to back-play and at the moment it's all a bit of a worry.

3 Months, 1 Week ago

Phil Kearns has some interesting theories about All Blacks success

After a couple of looks I was thinking you might have posted the wrong clip, RD. I couldn't find the "hilarious" bit. Although I guess it's sort of amusing to hear Kearns once again flailing away at the opposition with the wet noodle that he tries to pass off as cutting analysis.
I don't have the stats in front of me but I'm going to take a leap in the dark here and suggest that more than one or two Oz props of recent times would feature in that "most penalised" category. I wonder if Dr Phil has ever singled them out as such at the 1 minute mark of a Wallaby test.
In fact you're right RD. It's vintage Kearnsie, comedy gold.

3 Months, 1 Week ago

Australia's Women claim historic Gold Medal at the Rio Olympics

I'm no expert on this, but there are several types of haka for different occasions; battles, funerals, welcomes and various celebrations. People are mostly familiar with the pre-battle haka, but there are others in which women participate, or in fact are specifically for women, such as the Ka Panapa welcome haka.
I believe that even the traditional battle haka could involve women as observers whose verdict on the quality of the men's haka would influence the decision about whether to go into battle at that time.
So no, there's no issue. Women have always been involved in the haka.

3 Months, 3 Weeks ago