Viewing comments for cheyanqui« back to profile

Stade Francais' Jerome Fillol spits in Peter Stringer's face

I miss the old days, where if this was missed, the two captains and the ref would have huddled together and either the ref or the Bath captain would have said to Parisse:

"Sergio. We know something happened, and something got missed. In the interest of the game, and your players' safety, I strong suggest that #9 may have injured himself (i.e. before tactical subs, you could only sub injuries) at the next stoppage of play.

I would hate to be looking the other way at the next breakdown, and see you #9 come out of it with his back looking like a meat grinder crossed over it. But I only have two eyes to watch 30 players. I just might not see something. After all, I may have just missedd something now.

1 Year, 6 Months ago

Stade Francais' Jerome Fillol spits in Peter Stringer's face

Stringer is a Hall of Fame pest, at a rugby position where being a pest might be considered a specialist skill.

Many guys have wanted to retaliate against Stringer over the years. I'm sure there is a list as long as the day is. IMHO, some level of retaliation is usually "deserved" (even if it's not smart for your team) against a pest of a scrumhalf. Troncon's punch was deserved -- even though it was not wise.

But whatever Stringer might "deserve" put aside, the way an opponent chooses to retaliate reflects more on him than on Stringer.

No one can explain to me how spitting on an opponent somehow makes you good in the eyes of the rugby Gods.

1 Year, 6 Months ago

Saracens through to Heineken Cup semi final as 'Ash Splash' returns

God I wish someone would give him a splashdown like Cama Jr did on Serevi.

1 Year, 6 Months ago

Dimitri Yachvili forgets he's playing rugby, backheels pass for Erik Lund try

The only pinhole I could see here is a "charge down" of a heel.

As chargedowns only occur against "kicks".

But imagine getting called by a ref for a knock-on if you charged down a back heel kick

I would imagine any ref with a sense of fair play would just call "play on".

1 Year, 6 Months ago

Dimitri Yachvili forgets he's playing rugby, backheels pass for Erik Lund try

There was a pretty famous play at the New York Sevens back in the mid-1990s.

There was one of those "hired guns teams" (NY Aliens I think) of all international players, including Canadian Al Charron.

The report in rugby magazine spoke of a player (Charron I think) who in full stride did a heel chip kick over a defender, gathered and scored.

1 Year, 6 Months ago

Dimitri Yachvili forgets he's playing rugby, backheels pass for Erik Lund try

CanCon -- wasn't that the story they all tell us the first day of lacrosse / ice hockey / hurling practice -- "wear your cup boys, or you'll end up like Timmy so-and-so"

1 Year, 6 Months ago

Dimitri Yachvili forgets he's playing rugby, backheels pass for Erik Lund try

A "heel" of the ball is by definition NOT a "kick".
However a "heel" does count as the ball being "played".

So, it seems a fair interpretation that heeling is only prohibited when a "kick" is required.

Kicks at goal (Pens, Cons, DGs): require a "kick" and thus a heel should not count as a proper "kick"
Kickoffs and Restart Kicks (incl. 22M dropout) -- also require a "kick"
PKs and FKs: heeling is specifically prohibited under Law 21.3(a)

See the definitions at the front of the law book:
-------------------------
DEFINITIONS:
Kick: A kick is made by hitting the ball with any part of the leg or foot, except the heel, from the toe to the knee but not including the knee; a kick must move the ball a visible distance out of the hand, or along the ground.

Played: The ball is played when it is touched by a player.

KNOCK-ON: DEFINITION: KNOCK-ON
A knock-on occurs when a player loses possession of the ball and it goes forward, or when a player hits the ball forward with the hand or arm, or when the ball hits the hand or arm and goes forward, and the ball touches the ground or another player before the original player can catch it.
‘Forward’ means towards the opposing team’s dead ball line.

1 Year, 6 Months ago

Dimitri Yachvili forgets he's playing rugby, backheels pass for Erik Lund try

It's not about how you played the ball (pass, kick, knock-on, charge-down, off your head, etc.). It's about where your teammates are (and assuming the opposition has not done anything to put them onside).

LAW 11 - DEFINITIONS "... In general play a player is offside if the player is in front of a team-mate who is carrying the ball, or in front of a team-mate who last played the ball."


1 Year, 6 Months ago

Chris Ashton carded for high swinging arm on Maurie Fa'asavalu

Your honor, I didn't shoot the man.

The deceased simply had an acute allergic reaction to the high speed lead projectile that I was playing with by myself, until he stepped into my path.

1 Year, 6 Months ago

Chris Ashton carded for high swinging arm on Maurie Fa'asavalu

My point is that if this guy were playing for a Pacific Island nation, or for a Tier 2/3 country, the full force of the IRB would have come down upon him, and they use words like "reckless".

However, when it's a player from a favored nation, they talk of "bad luck", "no malicious intent", etc. etc.

It all comes down to refereeing / citiation / punishment by assumption -- when "good players" do it, it's unfortunate; when "bad players" do it, it's cynical.

1 Year, 6 Months ago

 
Site Meter