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Richie McCaw knee on Morgan Parra, Donald kick, Rougerie eye-gouge, and more

Huh?

2 Years, 5 Months ago

All Blacks win the 2011 Rugby World Cup - France challenge the Haka

Looks like this has moved to its own thread here, but here is a longer and better quality version of the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r_SKz0CQnk

2 Years, 5 Months ago

All Blacks win the 2011 Rugby World Cup - France challenge the Haka

Well, I don't believe all clear outs require a player to be grabbed, but that's as far as that needs to go.

A terrible quality video, from NZ media, so ignore the commentators if you like, but it sure looks like a headbutt, then a rake.
http://www.joe.ie/the-2011-rugby-world-cup/rugby-world-cup-news/video-rougerie-headbutt-and-eye-gouge-on-richie-mccaw-0017071-1

As for equating the two actions, you're digging deeper.

So "you can understand a player doing a stupid thing at the end" even if it's a gouge? "It just happens"?? That's simply ridiculous. There's a reason why Ghiraldini was banned for 15 weeks; it cannot be tolerated, regardless of the situation. The moral equivalence you stated is staggering. You would "understand" if McCaw cops a potential career-ending injury because you think he's playing offside? If Rougerie headbutts or works in a punch or two, OK, I could see that as "it just happens". As you said, "Pretty shameful act"

"The AB's calling other teams dirty just drives me up the wall.." Again, the filth stuff came from one former player whose scrotum was torn open playing against the French (so he's probably a bit sensitive there ;-). Not classy things to say, but you make it sound like the NZ team itself called the French dirty. On the contrary, both teams were class enough to leave it on the field. McCaw didn't say anything, and Dusautoir and Lievremont both said they just weren't good enough. No whining, no complaining, just class.

2 Years, 5 Months ago

All Blacks win the 2011 Rugby World Cup - France challenge the Haka

This word "deserve" keeps popping up. You all follow sport; "deserve" rarely has anything to do with it. Yes, France may have deserved to win the final, but they didn't. Wales may have deserved to win the semi, but they didn't. South Africa may have deserved to win their quarterfinal, but they didn't. Ireland footballers deserved to go to WC2010, but France got the benefit of that refereeing, didn't they?

Teams feel hard done by refs all the time, yes, including the All Blacks. People need to let it go.

2 Years, 5 Months ago

All Blacks win the 2011 Rugby World Cup - France challenge the Haka

First off, it's not "my newspapers". I'm not a Kiwi. I don't have anything against the French; just scroll up a ways and you'll see that I agree that the NZ press treated the French team and the whole of the tournament with disrespect. Ridiculous stuff was said.

"He was trying to clear Dusautoir with his fist closed?? Come on."

I can see that we're just not going to agree on this. I don't think an open or closed hand position even crosses the mind of a player or coach when it comes to rucking, but apparently a closed hand is somehow unbelievable in your case. It wasn't a punch.

But even if it was, are you still claiming that it's "just as bad" as a headbutt followed by an eye gouge? As you say, come on.

2 Years, 5 Months ago

All Blacks win the 2011 Rugby World Cup - France challenge the Haka

Nice straw man, Oliver: nobody's saying the ABs are angels. All rugby teams play to the edge of the law.

Shameful that you would equate an accidental knee to the head while clearing out Dusautoir with Rougerie's gouge, which could cost a man his eyesight. Even if you think McCaw copped Parra on purpose, they're not even remotely the same.

2 Years, 5 Months ago

All Blacks win the 2011 Rugby World Cup - France challenge the Haka

Well, they ARE allowed to challenge the haka. What makes you think that they aren't? It's expected that there is some sort of response.

2 Years, 5 Months ago

All Blacks win the 2011 Rugby World Cup - France challenge the Haka

Haha, surely a red! I've seen that before, always funny. Love how it looks like they're all part of a beginner line dance class, watching the teacher, just waiting for the one move they all know at the end!

2 Years, 5 Months ago

All Blacks win the 2011 Rugby World Cup - France challenge the Haka

I'm also guessing that some of the bashing here has to do with the over-the-top media treatment of the French team. Shocking how the NZ press (and others) didn't refrain from that, knowing what France has done to them in the past.

2 Years, 5 Months ago

All Blacks win the 2011 Rugby World Cup - France challenge the Haka

Great match, can't believe all the whinging on here though about Joubert. Wish you all had class equal to Dusautoir, who after the match simply said the breakdown is notoriously difficult to referee, calls could have gone both ways, and that they just weren't quite good enough on the day. Lievremont said much the same thing. Get over it. This from a neutral American.

2 Years, 5 Months ago

 
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