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Wales claim the Triple Crown with nail biting win over England

George North, Alex Cuthbert, Scott Williams, Toby Faletau, Leigh Halfpenny, Jonathon Davies and Sam Warburton are all 23 or under. Perhaps that's who he's talking about when mentioning kids. Not the tiny sample of Jenkins and Adam Jones who you have picked out.

Strettle needs to get a grip in my opinion. Show a little humility in defeat, learn from Lancaster and the way he behaved post match. As for the benefit of the doubt having to go with the attacking side, what a load of rubbish.

2 Years, 7 Months ago

Wales claim the Triple Crown with nail biting win over England

Pretzel, once again showing yourself up, except this time it's not through your lack of knowledge but in contradicting yourself. You say that it was a try in your opinion, but go on to say that you actually doubt whether the ball was well and truly grounded. That doubt is exactly why the TMO couldn't give the try.

2 Years, 7 Months ago

Wales looking strong after solid win over Scotland

As I said, perhaps you need to go and look at the laws yourself. You attempt at comedy is just showing up your lack of knowledge.

2 Years, 7 Months ago

Wales looking strong after solid win over Scotland

Pretzel, all I can say is go away and check out the laws. You are confusing different things. You state that if a player is not tackled then it cannot lead to a ruck, however, there is no need for a tackle as defined by the laws to take place in order for a ruck to form. This constant backward and forward is getting us nowhere. I know the laws quite well having had to study them, take exams on them and implement them while reffing. If I were wrong then I would hold my hands up and say so, but in this circumstance I am not. I have even checked the IRB website and my own personal law book.

2 Years, 8 Months ago

Wales looking strong after solid win over Scotland

Pretzel, I am not quite sure what you are getting at with the 'gospel truth' statement, however, if you were a referee then you would/should know the difference between someone tackling by wrapping, or attempting to wrap, arms around a ball carrier, and someone who grapples or grabs and pulls them down. They are two very different situations and there is no rooms for interpretation in this situation, no matter what you may think.
If someone is tackled then there is immediately an offside line and a gate, whereas if someone is dragged down then the offside line doesn't exist unless a ruck is formed.
I'm not saying that you grabbing dodgy wingers' shirts wouldn't be counted in tackle count as I don't know what the definition for tackle is when it comes to statistics, but in the laws, what you have described is not a 'tackle'.

2 Years, 8 Months ago

Wales looking strong after solid win over Scotland

Unforunately Pretzel, while you may think that's the case it is not. To be defined, within the laws, as the tackler, you have to be performing a tackle, ie wrapping your arms around the ball carrier. If you are just pulling someone down, as the Scottish forward is, you are not defined as a tackler, and the breakdown situation that occurs is different, as in there is no offside line. This was something that was clarified in a referees meeting that I attended in pre-season.

2 Years, 8 Months ago

Wales looking strong after solid win over Scotland

I have indeed heard of a two man tackle, however, this is not one. For the Scottish forward to actually be taking part in the tackle then he would need to be wrapping, or at least attempting to, his arms around the ball carrier. As he's not then he is not considered part of the tackle. So, I refer you back to the original point of it being irrelevant. Watch it carefully again.

2 Years, 8 Months ago

Wales looking strong after solid win over Scotland

Whether or not he was involved in bring the player to the ground is irrelevant due to the way in which the initial tackler brought the ball carrier to the ground.

2 Years, 8 Months ago

Wales looking strong after solid win over Scotland

So it was Barclay, however, according to the laws he was most certainly not fine where he was. He entered from the side, considering the gate runs from the way the tackler and ball carry hit the ground. In order for him to have been fine he would have had to come round from behind where the original tackler had landed, not just step his foot around to make it seem like he had. Them's the laws, check them out if you aren't convinced. As for the Scots getting pinged plenty, not exactly. The ref consistenly allowed them to hold onto the ball for longer than should be allowed.
To be honest, I thought that Poite's refing of the ruck was atrocious, allowing both teams to get away with certain things. However, if he'd been stricter, then I believe Wales would have come out further on top and Scotland may have had another player in the bin.

2 Years, 8 Months ago

Wales looking strong after solid win over Scotland

jockandy, on their feet most certainly means on their feet, supporting your own body weight. I understand exactly how the law works, no need for any explanations. The Scottish forwards and ball carriers were constantly slowing down the ball at the ruck, not releasing for the Welsh forwards when they were ON their feet. In doing so, due to further rucking, people would go off their feet. But don't let facts get in the way of what you think was happening.

As far as your claim against Shingler is concerned, how about watching the footage once again? Notice who Shingler clears out by 'coming in from the side.' Correct me if I'm wrong but he actually clears out a Scottish forward who, lo and behold, is coming in from the side...you may argue that two wrongs don't make a right, but then that would prove your lack of knowledge in terms of how refereeing is carried out.

2 Years, 8 Months ago

 
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