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World Rugby CEO confirms full investigation into Craig Joubert behaviour will take place

Very disappointing. Didn't expect this reaction.

I was gutted when Bryce Lawrence cost SA a place in the semis last time round, but no amount of disappointment warrants this kind of lynch mob.

6 Months, 2 Weeks ago

World Rugby CEO confirms full investigation into Craig Joubert behaviour will take place

I know you Jocks don't normally wear anything beneath your kilts, but I really think it's time for some big boy pants.

6 Months, 2 Weeks ago

World Rugby CEO confirms full investigation into Craig Joubert behaviour will take place

Agree. If it hadn't been for one contentious call (which, at full speed looked correct) none of this would have happened. No one would have said a word about the ref.

It's a pity because it's unbecoming. It is the thing you expect from soccer supporters, but rugby is supposed to be better than that. And particularly when you consider that Scotland only made it to the QF courtesy of a late try by Laidlaw against Samoa which seemed to have a clear knock-on when he tried to pick up from the scrum, and which wasn't referred to the TMO. I don't recall the Samoans (who lost) or the Japanese (who missed out on the QF s a result) kicking up such a stink about the ref.

Tell me that's not a knock on at 7 seconds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxU_SjPegag

If ever a pot called a kettle black.

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6 Months, 2 Weeks ago

World Rugby CEO confirms full investigation into Craig Joubert behaviour will take place

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the first incident involve a kick into a Scottish player (Nel?) which then went forward after which another Scotsman handled it? Nel wasn't trying to play the ball - he just got clobbered by it. Hence the "accidental" part.

In the second incident, the Scottish player was trying to play the ball and knocked it forward, after which another Scotsman played it. Hence not accidental.

Just my speculation - I may be wrong here.

6 Months, 2 Weeks ago

Wallabies snatch victory from courageous Scots at the death

No, TMO protocol only allows for very specific reviews, and not "important decisions". This is from the IRB website:


The TMO can be used only in the following circumstances:

Determining the grounding of the ball in-goal for a try or touchdown and/or whether players were in touch or touch in goal before grounding
Determining whether a kick at goal has been successful
Confirm if an infringement has occurred in the build-up to a try or prevention of a try (infringement must be within two phases of the try or touchdown)
Considering acts of possible foul play

Here's the link: http://www.worldrugby.org/news/96575

Joubert was not allowed to consult the TMO, and he's being crucified for following the IRB rules.

6 Months, 2 Weeks ago

Wallabies snatch victory from courageous Scots at the death

No, all it shows is that big decisions in the dying moments of close games can go both ways, but we only care about the ones that affect our own teams.

6 Months, 2 Weeks ago

Wallabies snatch victory from courageous Scots at the death

No, that is not what the TMO is for. The TMO is only there to check grounding of a try, foot in touch prior to a try, transgressions up to 2 phases before a try and suspicion of foul play. That's it. You wrote earlier that the IRB had changed this before the World Cup. Where did they do this? Can you post a link?

6 Months, 2 Weeks ago

Wallabies snatch victory from courageous Scots at the death

"They are also designed to be flexible, with the most important aspect being the guiding principles, which enable to referee to over-rule the protocols and emphasises the importance of using TMO to protect the image of the game by being credible and consistent."

Really? Where does it say all that?

Also, see my comment at the bottom about the Laidlaw try from the Samoa game in the closing minutes. Karma? Who knows?

6 Months, 2 Weeks ago

Wallabies snatch victory from courageous Scots at the death

Might I also remind the upset Scottish fans that Scotland only played in the quarter finals thanks to a narrow victory over Samoa. Had they lost this game, then Japan would have progressed. And they only won this game 36-33 thanks to (ironically also in the 74th minute) a try to Greig Laidlaw where he clearly seems to fumble the ball forward at the base of the scrum before darting over for the try. This was never referred to the TMO (and here the TMO would have had all the right to intervene as it was a try-scoring situation). Had it been referred, I'm pretty sure the try wouldn't have stood and Japan would have progressed to the quarter finals. Just something to ponder, while everyone is upset about the Joubert decision.

Here is the try in question. Watch closely at 7 seconds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxU_SjPegag

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6 Months, 2 Weeks ago

Wallabies snatch victory from courageous Scots at the death

Nigel Owens wouldn't have used the TMO in the final minutes of the Scotland Australia game either, because it is not allowed. Which is why Joubert didn't. How come none of the aggrieved Scottish fans can bring themselves to admit this? It's the fundamental point in this whole debate. The TMO was not an option. Full stop. Move on.

6 Months, 2 Weeks ago