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The kiwis knew what had to be done, and knew they'd get away with it. Over the two matches ,the peno could was 8 (IRL) vs 26 (NZ). With the yellows and now the citings ,its obvious the ref was too star struck to get a grip on the stuff that was over the edge. And NZ knew this ,got away with it, and won .They knew where the line was - a Nigel Owens type ref would have controlled it better. Once a kiwi was in the bin he was never going to bin another during those 10 mins, no matter what happened.
Of course it was hard on both sides, plenty of this and that, but Henshaw and Stander -two of Ireland's best attacking threats - were taken out. Henshaw defo was victim of a head and shoulder charge - he was blindsided, Cane saw it all.
That said, even though it looked like Sexton did actually hold up the ball excellently, prob would have been a penaulty try as his grappling on the ground for the ball meant he went high. TMO had a nightmare on that try (in many respects!), but ref seemed afraid to call what was obvious. TMO/ref Should also have checked for the forward passes in the last try too (no one got to see if they were or not) https://m0.sportsjoe.ie/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/20100403/Henshaw-tackle-iloveimg-resized.gif
4 Months, 18 Hours ago
Thanks for compiling so many different games from around the world. Great - and rare - to see.
4 Months, 6 Days ago
Yes that and obviously the Argie one - v unusual continuity play at play there eh?
4 Months, 1 Week ago
well said @Jimmy23 - Itoje deserved to be top 5 at least, for sure.
Content (if not the order of) Top 4 make sense, more or less, but with Itoje in there too. Think Vini or Itoje might have been 1 actually ,thou Hogg - in a poor enough team - was amazing.
I'd probably go
(unsure about 2 and 3 a toss up really)
11 Months, 4 Weeks ago
these innovations seem to travel one way - League to Union. (I stand to be corrected, many of you know more than i on this). Are there examples of the opposite?
Also I'm not sure that the opposition always has to see the ball - how does a forward in a maul see the ball all the time when its at the back of a maul for eg?
I like the depth of the passing in these moves - that I think makes it noteworthy, but the dummy runner (which they still are) obviously needs to not obstruct in terms of contact. However innovative running lines for the deep receivers is surely the next step - cutting back into soft shoulders, then the next receiver innovating etc....I'm not seeing that (in Union, don't know about league)
1 Year, 5 Months ago
2 weeks reduced to one. As an Irish fan, I have to say I'm relieved. I was expecting more. Apparently it was reduced to one - after a marathon 7 hour hearing (how?!?) - for previous good behaviour.
Would be a shame for the tournament to loose a player in the form he's in, and of course it woudl have been a disaster for Ireland to loose him after loosing POC POM and possibly JS. But and notwithstanding whatever Pepe was doing behind his back and so on ,SOB was one lucky SOB :-)
@Oliver: Irish fans have a small nation peculiarity. We are quite fair and level headed in general analysis - I reckon Irish commentators are more neutral than most - but when it gets weird or big and at the same time heated, we can go bananas. We all band together in a collective madness.
So in situations like this, when the team is doing well, the more or less best player is possibly about to be banned, we think of anything and everything to hope against hope - blindly and naively - that he'll get off.
Big issues are like this for small nations which are ok but not world beaters at any sport i reckon. If you are used to winning, you can brush it off; if you are used to loosing, or being ok, you can be objective; if you are getting to be quite good, are from a small island nation ,and then have that hope dashed...you go a bit bananas.
The BOD Lions dropping was similar, and outside of rugby the Thierre Henry double hand ball was too, in 'football'/soccer. But for standard stuff, I'd maintain we're more neutral and level headed than most- in fact our commentators often over compensate to appear balanced.
1 Year, 5 Months ago
Immense man, what a career. Also worth mentioning captaining the Lions- not just going there as a player. Hope he recovers and still has a while in Toulon. he deserves the pension!
1 Year, 5 Months ago
bans based on the number of weeks are especailly tough in a tournament run over a few weeks eh?
Hate the holding on and whatever else is going on behind the back that we can't see. Its likely that there was some sort of a dig - ie more than we see form the front - to generate that sort of reaction from SOB. Wonder if a back angle will materalise before 1 o clock?!?
But it was 100% a silly reaction by SOB and he will get some sort of a ban, and even missing one match is serious in this tournament at this stage.
He was just back in proper form, played immense, and now this. Along with the rest of the injuries. Much tuffer for Ireland now.
1 Year, 5 Months ago
@oliver: At least some other countries have v strong preferences for home grown, if not formal NZ style rules. Eg For Ireland (where I live), if you ain't in the squad before you go abroad, you won't get into it while abroad. (Bowe and Sexton were in the team before going to Wales and France: Mike Ross wasn't in the team for years while in England, even thou Ireland were really weak in tightheads, similarly with many others in other positions)
(also Ireland were at their worst when the Irish players played in England - early 1990s)
Oz also show a strong preference - eg honeybadger in Japan -
But as a one off, I'd imagine SA would have been an asset, if brought in early - he's incredible.
1 Year, 6 Months ago
here are the two codes in OZ compared (and other sports); Rules rules eh?
Player participation in League is 5 times higher in all codes (according to a broken wikipedia link!) in Oz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_rugby_league_and_rugby_union#cite_note-autogenerated1-59
and here's a really interesting way to have a combo/compromise/hybrid game: attacking team plays league til halfway line, then union if they pass it. http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/news/4994642/Hybrid-rugby-union-league-experiment
This is the time of year people often talk about a fusion of the two - it would become one massive cross-class sport if it did...Ireland would be fucked, and flankers would probably disappear - a pity as they are in many ways the most dynamic and interesting of players (and, the most leaguey in terms of physique)
Its impossible of course, compared to the Berlin wall coming down anyway.... :-)
1 Year, 8 Months ago