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Fascinating 2017 Six Nations comes to a close - Final Weekend Highlights Wrap

DrG: " I remember a Jonny Wilkinson try against Scotland many moons ago where the tmo missed the fact JW's foot was out when he awarded the try..."

HOW DARE YOU!!!

That extraordinary piece of athleticism was reviewed many times by the TMO, who confirmed unequivocally both that Sir Jonny's foot was NOT in touch, and that his shoulder hadn't touched the corner flag, (which at that time was considered in touch).

Wash your mouth out, Doctor.

19 Hours, 36 Minutes ago

Jordie Barrett brilliant behind the back pass for Hurricanes try

Brilliant!

Now I'm wondering if I "misunderestimated" (© George W Bush) your age a bit.

19 Hours, 43 Minutes ago

Jordie Barrett brilliant behind the back pass for Hurricanes try

Just came across this rather excellent video, featuring the Barretts' dad, who used to play professional rugby as well, mostly on his farm, surrounded I must say by some absolutely stunning scenery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uyoZkH3LDQ

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22 Hours, 7 Minutes ago

Jordie Barrett brilliant behind the back pass for Hurricanes try

Don't forget this bloke:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtP8imCmGZw

There's even another Barrett brother, Kane, who I believe was last seen playing flanker or lock for the Blues and/or Taranaki.

Maybe Mr and Mrs Barrett should have carried on procreating!

Could have competed against the Vyvyan brothers - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Vyvyan:
Vyvyan is youngest of seven brothers. In 1993 the brothers created rugby history by making up an entire team in the Penryn Invitation Sevens tournament. The seven Vyvyan brothers (Richard, Jonathan, Charles, Simon, Paul, James and Hugh) went on to win the tournament, defeating the host club 19 – 17 in the final.

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22 Hours, 41 Minutes ago

Fascinating 2017 Six Nations comes to a close - Final Weekend Highlights Wrap

Agree with 3 out of 3 points. :)

1 Day, 2 Hours ago

Fascinating 2017 Six Nations comes to a close - Final Weekend Highlights Wrap

"I undersand that referees have instruction not to let a late penalty to decide the outcome".

Do they? This is the first I've heard of it and I have seen refs make some very bold decisions very late in games - including in this match, in favour of France!

I appreciate the rest of your comment, but have to say there is some paranoia creeping in. I do think France - and other non-English-speaking teams - find it harder to build a constructive dialogue and rapport with the ref, but the idea of France being (or being treated as) a tier 2 or 3 team is nuts!

1 Day, 16 Hours ago

Fascinating 2017 Six Nations comes to a close - Final Weekend Highlights Wrap

I just wanted to get The Dodgy Doctor's new nickname in.
You're right of course, but I think Barnes also asked the Dodgy Doctor the same at one point during the Dodgy Doctor's "ah I no speak Engleesh" routine.

Interesting to note, by the way, that Barnesy let the Dodgy Doctor get away with it, but called the Welsh out on their injured prop shenanigans. The biased bar steward... *Takes cover*

1 Day, 16 Hours ago

Fascinating 2017 Six Nations comes to a close - Final Weekend Highlights Wrap

Yes. I agree completely. Made a very similar observation a bit further down the page. In a game like rugby, with laws whose application is open to interpretation, language is important.

1 Day, 16 Hours ago

Fascinating 2017 Six Nations comes to a close - Final Weekend Highlights Wrap

Indeed. Even Barnesy was making some effort with his "blessé ou pas blessé" interrogation of the Dodgy Doctor...

But it's the nuance that gets missed. I think this is highlighted by how certain international coaches have selected captains partly on how well they interact with the officials - eg Robshaw, Warburton, I hesitate to include Offside Rich in this list because he was captain because he was awesome, but even in his case the way he was able to keep the ref on side was often as important as his rugby playing.

Many non-native English-speaking players are able to communicate using the esssential rugby keywords, but they're often very direct in the language they use. Consequently it is much harder to establish and develop a rapport.

1 Day, 19 Hours ago

Fascinating 2017 Six Nations comes to a close - Final Weekend Highlights Wrap

DrG - You're at it again with your use of quotation marks when you're not actually quoting things:
'a penalty try is awarded when a try WOULD have been scored had the offence not been committed'

In fact, the penalty try crops up in a number of laws, but the wording is usually along these lines - and this IS a quote, from Law 10.2 on Unfair Play (a) Intentional Offending:
"A penalty try must be awarded if the offence prevents a try that would probably otherwise have been scored."

The reason I'm being a boring pedant about this is that the operative word here - probably - is used in all instances.

This means that, using this match as an example, and as I think you also imply, Barnesy could well have awarded a penalty try, because had it not been for the persistent intentional offending, a try probably would have been scored.

1 Day, 21 Hours ago